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Post by Kenny Bania on Sept 11, 2016 7:24:55 GMT
you need someone who can push back GGG or someone who can consistently make GGG miss and pick him off with counter shots while on the back foot. At the moment I dont see anyone who can do the former. Ward could do the latter but he's never coming back down to 168, he can barely make 175 these days. Agreed. Against Brook, and Rosado as well, he didn't look great when they backed him up. Alas, there doesn't seem to be anyone at middleweight that has the power to succeed where Brook and Rosado failed. Maybe Canelo but he has his own deficiencies. Fighters in his position usually move up in weight in to seek greater challenges. I just don't understand why they keep harping on about beating everyone from 154-168, yet never attempting to prove it.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Sept 11, 2016 9:15:49 GMT
you need someone who can push back GGG or someone who can consistently make GGG miss and pick him off with counter shots while on the back foot. At the moment I dont see anyone who can do the former. Ward could do the latter but he's never coming back down to 168, he can barely make 175 these days. Agreed. Against Brook, and Rosado as well, he didn't look great when they backed him up. Alas, there doesn't seem to be anyone at middleweight that has the power to succeed where Brook and Rosado failed. Maybe Canelo but he has his own deficiencies. Yup - While Canelo is tough and he may push back GGG initially, I dont think he would be able to keep him on the backfoot. Canelo's footwork isnt great either so I dont see him being able to fight on the backfoot for long
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Post by ALTBOULI on Sept 11, 2016 9:30:37 GMT
Agreed. Against Brook, and Rosado as well, he didn't look great when they backed him up. Alas, there doesn't seem to be anyone at middleweight that has the power to succeed where Brook and Rosado failed. Maybe Canelo but he has his own deficiencies. Fighters in his position usually move up in weight in to seek greater challenges. I just don't understand why they keep harping on about beating everyone from 154-168, yet never attempting to prove it. Move up in weight and fight who? 168 is just as bad as 160 in terms of quality fighters. Degale,Jack,Dirrel,Groves,Bute and Abraham are considerd the top fighters at 168, realistically do you think any of these beat Golovkin? They have mentioned fighting Degale but he's not interested at the moment (in talks to fight Jack). You would have to move him up 2 weight divisions before you can realistically find someone who can beat him. GGG isnt a big middleweight, he came in at 158 for this fight. He's staying at 160 because he wants to unify the division, Saunders was first choice but he didnt want to negotiate. Sooner or later he's going to have to fight GGG or relinquish his belts, after that I think we will see GGG move up.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Sept 11, 2016 20:04:34 GMT
Fighters in his position usually move up in weight in to seek greater challenges. I just don't understand why they keep harping on about beating everyone from 154-168, yet never attempting to prove it. Move up in weight and fight who? 168 is just as bad as 160 in terms of quality fighters. Degale,Jack,Dirrel,Groves,Bute and Abraham are considerd the top fighters at 168, realistically do you think any of these beat Golovkin? They have mentioned fighting Degale but he's not interested at the moment (in talks to fight Jack). You would have to move him up 2 weight divisions before you can realistically find someone who can beat him. GGG isnt a big middleweight, he came in at 158 for this fight. He's staying at 160 because he wants to unify the division, Saunders was first choice but he didnt want to negotiate. Sooner or later he's going to have to fight GGG or relinquish his belts, after that I think we will see GGG move up. Even if I were to agree that 168 was as bad as 160 in terms of quality (I don't), beating a bigger mediocre fighter >>>>>>> a smaller mediocre fighter any day.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Sept 18, 2016 6:58:56 GMT
Anybody watch Cotto's dad stop Beefy? No? Just me?
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Post by ALTBOULI on Sept 18, 2016 14:51:41 GMT
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Post by Kenny Bania on Sept 18, 2016 14:53:33 GMT
Team GGG haven't denied the existence of said offer. What do?
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Post by ALTBOULI on Sept 18, 2016 15:22:28 GMT
Team GGG haven't denied the existence of said offer. What do? I really hope youre joking...
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Post by Kenny Bania on Sept 18, 2016 15:38:34 GMT
Team GGG haven't denied the existence of said offer. What do? I really hope youre joking... Why would I be? Loeffler has admitted there have been negotiations.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Sept 24, 2016 18:43:44 GMT
Looking forward to Crolla vs Linares tonight. Linares is the superior boxer technically but he has looked vulnerable at times, Crolla has home advantage and is coming off a great win so it should be very interesting
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Post by Kenny Bania on Sept 24, 2016 19:38:27 GMT
Looking forward to Crolla vs Linares tonight. Linares is the superior boxer technically but he has looked vulnerable at times, Crolla has home advantage and is coming off a great win so it should be very interesting Not sure I can be bothered to see this one live tbh. Just hasn't captured my imagination.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Sept 24, 2016 20:09:47 GMT
Looking forward to Crolla vs Linares tonight. Linares is the superior boxer technically but he has looked vulnerable at times, Crolla has home advantage and is coming off a great win so it should be very interesting Not sure I can be bothered to see this one live tbh. Just hasn't captured my imagination. Undercard is awful, not sure how Connor Benn is getting so much hype. He got exposed by a guy with 1 win in 2 fights. Anyway the main event should be good
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Post by Heroicmass on Sept 25, 2016 1:21:53 GMT
Fight me bouli. You'll stand a snowballs chance sir.
I heard you already cowered from your bout with boogie
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Post by lpprince on Sept 25, 2016 2:38:33 GMT
I train at a boxing gym not far from where I live. I've sparred amateur fighters(hell, did today). No bouts for me though, at the moment I'm just training and trying to get better. Flyweight by the way. Not intending to stay there though.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Sept 25, 2016 7:37:27 GMT
Fight me bouli. You'll stand a snowballs chance sir. I heard you already cowered from your bout with boogie On topic im glad Linares won, the referee was very biased in favour of crolla. I had Linares up by 4 or 5 rounds.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Sept 25, 2016 7:47:09 GMT
I heard you already cowered from your bout with boogie He didn't want these hands. On topic im glad Linares won, the referee was very biased in favour of crolla. I had Linares up by 4 or 5 rounds. Not going to bother watching it, but it sounds like the rematch is on. Do you think it warrants one?
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Post by ALTBOULI on Sept 25, 2016 10:52:45 GMT
I heard you already cowered from your bout with boogie He didn't want these hands. On topic im glad Linares won, the referee was very biased in favour of crolla. I had Linares up by 4 or 5 rounds. Not going to bother watching it, but it sounds like the rematch is on. Do you think it warrants one? You would get rekt. It was an entertaining fight so I could see the argument of having a rematch in that regard. However while the fight was competitive I thought Linares was the clear winner. He was landing with the much better quality shots and rocked Crolla in round 6. The difference in quality was rather obvious
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Post by Kenny Bania on Oct 1, 2016 7:43:45 GMT
Tyson Fury. Smh.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Oct 1, 2016 17:09:41 GMT
I sad to see what's happening to Fury, he needs a strong team around him to help him deal with these psychological issues. I suspect we might not see him fight again.
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Post by Duelist on Oct 1, 2016 20:30:51 GMT
Assuming he's held onto his money, never fighting again may not be so bad.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Oct 7, 2016 21:59:29 GMT
Anyone watching Burns vs Relikh? Very interesting fight
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Post by lpprince on Oct 11, 2016 12:54:01 GMT
My new full time job is getting in the way of my boxing at the gym across the street from it. Damn it. *shrugs*
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Post by Beerfish on Oct 11, 2016 13:58:46 GMT
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Post by Patricia on Oct 16, 2016 13:01:35 GMT
For me personally boxing is not a sport that i like very much. Sorry that i say this i will make no friends by saying this to some people here on this forum. But you have two guys who have no quarrel with each other and they try to knock each others lights out by knock out. At least that's what it's all about right ??? So yeah why oh why would someone do that to someone else i just cannot understand that.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Oct 16, 2016 21:28:30 GMT
For me personally boxing is not a sport that i like very much. Sorry that i say this i will make no friends by saying this to some people here on this forum. But you have two guys who have no quarrel with each other and they try to knock each others lights out by knock out. At least that's what it's all about right ??? So yeah why oh why would someone do that to someone else i just cannot understand that. Yeah it a gruelling, harsh sport, there's no doubt about that but you fail to see the many positives the sport of boxing brings. A great deal of fighters come from impoverished back grounds with very little chance to improve their living conditions. In all likelihood many fighters would turn to crime if they were not boxers. Boxing instil's them with focus and discipline and provides them with a means to earn an honest living. Here is a perfect example: www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2016/03/28/should-we-ban-boxing-absolutely-not/Im interested to know if you feel this way about other combat sports or just boxing?
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