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Post by Kenny Bania on Nov 20, 2016 4:33:58 GMT
Yah, but. You can tell he hasn't had a meeting before the day that Negan arrives. That's not really a way to lead. Well, ehh. It's not as effective of a way to lead. I'm not arguing that it is effective.
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Post by goishen on Nov 20, 2016 4:36:28 GMT
Okay. True. It's just us projecting our desires onto the show.
If that happened to me, I'm not sure what I'd do.
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Post by DragonRacer on Nov 20, 2016 15:10:19 GMT
Granted, Negan came a little early. Hue hue hue...
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Post by Sifr on Nov 20, 2016 20:20:03 GMT
One thing that always puzzles me is when smaller weaker groups get terrorized by people like the Governor and now Negan why they never start to fight back via an asymmetric warfare and guerrilla hit and run tactics. Rick is right, they're an army and you can't fight them face-to-face - but small determined groups have brought entire governments to their knees with clever tactics. Asymmetric warfare is all about fighting a superior force and exposing their weaknesses which is their large size and relative slow speed. There are countless of examples of small groups vastly inferior in technology and numbers brining entire governments to their knees - Che Guevara , the French resistance, Afghanistan, Russian Partisans, the Irish IRA, the Mujahedin etc. The trick is to stay hidden and attack the enemy with hit and run tactics avoiding direct open combat. Crippling the supply chain with improved explosive devices, lone sharpshooters taking out key personnel, sabotage, burning down their supply storages, nightly raids - in other words - terror. Only needle stabs, but right in their hearts. Thats what I'd do - I sure as hell would not stay in Alexandria and try to provide for my oppressors that threaten me with randomly killing my people - I'd immediately relocate the population and my food to somewhere deep in the woods and start an extensive guerrilla warfare from there. Except that you forget that guerilla warfare in the zombie apocalypse isn't going to be as effective as it would be in our world, because of the omnipresent threat of zombies that the survivors have to deal with, in addition to that of living enemy combatants. Imagine how screwed the Wolverines would have been in Red Dawn if they had to constantly be alert for zombies encroaching on the forest they were in? Any stealth ambush they might have prepared would have to fallen apart when Walkers showed up and gave their position away to the Soviets? Or how they might take out a few living enemies, but the heavy gunfire can end up bringing a horde of undead that can overwhelm them? Any attempt by Rick's group to engage Negan in these hit-and-run style operations would lead to Negan razing Alexandria and other settlements in retribution. Not only would this lose Rick's group the only stronghold they have to protect themselves against the zombie horde, but Negan destroying another (innocent) settlement would also send a clear message to the other communities not to test his patience, as well as turn them against Rick's group for stirring up trouble. It's not to say that a guerilla campaign couldn't work, nor would combined effort from multiple groups be impossible (not wanting to give any spoilers from the comics), but they have to be smart about how they plan to move against him. Zombies do throw a major spanner into the works when planning how to engage enemies in this world.
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Post by Babar Guy on Nov 21, 2016 15:54:45 GMT
I'm dreadfully slow on the uptake, but I only just realized that one guy who is one of Negan's lieutenants is Trevor from GTA V.
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Post by Galactic Runner on Nov 22, 2016 5:15:38 GMT
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Post by Dobby on Nov 22, 2016 6:15:08 GMT
I'm just gonna drop this here...
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Post by DragonRacer on Nov 22, 2016 12:03:22 GMT
I'm just gonna drop this here... [img src="
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Post by goishen on Nov 23, 2016 1:04:25 GMT
Just a head's up. The Walking Dead : A New Frontier (Season 3) is now up on Steam for pre-order. Already got mine. It's coming Dec. 20th. Or, rather the first episode. It's kind'a funny how all my stuff against episodic content goes out the window as soon as I see TWD.
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Post by Nightman on Nov 24, 2016 21:35:40 GMT
Come on, let Lucille sing like the sweet bat she is just a few more times.....please.
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Post by DragonRacer on Nov 24, 2016 22:58:59 GMT
Comic Negan has an oddly appropriate panel for this day...
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Nov 24, 2016 23:09:50 GMT
Yeah the last episode was really boring. Oddly I think Steven Ogg acts much better than Jeffrey Dean Morgan.
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Post by goishen on Nov 26, 2016 21:40:00 GMT
Well, I mean, the group is split up, so they're just trying to establish that, as well as giving us a peek inside their lives. Remember, they're still on about 3 (ish) days since the time Negan went all medieval on Abraham and Glenn.
Once they're back together, or at least have a semblance of being back together, then the show will pick back up again.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Nov 26, 2016 22:31:55 GMT
Well, I mean, the group is split up, so they're just trying to establish that, as well as giving us a peek inside their lives. Remember, they're still on about 3 (ish) days since the time Negan went all medieval on Abraham and Glenn. Once they're back together, or at least have a semblance of being back together, then the show will pick back up again. I bet the show picks up again during the last two episodes of this season, resulting in one giant assfuck cliffhanger.
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Post by Inquisitor Recon on Nov 27, 2016 9:17:40 GMT
Miss Abraham him more than Glenn tbh. He deserved better if not just for his tour in Band of Brothers.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 28, 2016 6:16:36 GMT
I felt the savior were a little out of character this episode
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Post by Dobby on Nov 28, 2016 19:11:33 GMT
Tara has gotten so big.
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Post by Sifr on Nov 28, 2016 19:39:46 GMT
Y'know, Gregory might be a tool, but he wasn't wrong when he said that Maggie forced them to take the deal. I seem to recall her strong-arming him the end of "Knots Untie" (6x11), into accepting Negan-esque terms in order for them to protect them from the Saviours;
"Without ammo, without fighters, you'd be a dead man. So half of everything you have, right now... or the deals off. You see, I have leverage."
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Post by goishen on Nov 29, 2016 4:22:31 GMT
The actor playing Tara just had a baby. EDIT : Yah, but they didn't bash anybody's skull in while making pedantic jokes. Big difference.
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Post by Galactic Runner on Nov 29, 2016 5:05:23 GMT
I'm just gonna drop this here... Then you find out there's an Easy Lover on Easy Street. LMAO!! SAVE US FROM THE ZOMBIES, PHILS!!!!
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Post by Sifr on Dec 1, 2016 1:01:01 GMT
Yah, but they didn't bash anybody's skull in while making pedantic jokes. Big difference. True, we also know that Negan did the same to thing to others, including a 16 year old kid from the Hilltop according to Jesus. But to play devil's advocate again, Rick's group did blow up some of Negan's men with a bazooka, attack his compound, burn people alive and stab them in the head while they were sleeping. Negan killing two people in retaliation for the dozen or more people that Rick's group slaughtered was letting them off relatively easy. Negan's strategy is actually pretty similar to the Roman practice of decimation. A unit chosen for punishment would be divided into groups of ten soldiers, who'd then draw lots to determine which one of them would be executed. The execution of the unlucky one who drew short, was then carried out by the other nine. Negan however seems to follow Marc Antony's example in that he carries out the execution personally. All that aside, Negan is still a colossal tool.
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Post by DragonRacer on Dec 1, 2016 2:58:30 GMT
Yah, but they didn't bash anybody's skull in while making pedantic jokes. Big difference. Negan's strategy is actually pretty similar to the Roman practice of decimation. A unit chosen for punishment would be divided into groups of ten soldiers, who'd then draw lots to determine which one of them would be executed. The execution of the unlucky one who drew short, was then carried out by the other nine. Negan however seems to follow Marc Antony's example in that he carries out the execution personally. Okay, now THAT part is veeeeeery interesting. Spoilers for anyone who hasn't either read Issue # 100 of the comic or watched the Season 7 premiere: Negan wasn't originally planned. Kirkman wanted to actually put Rick in a situation where he was forced to kill Glenn, but he couldn't find a way that he liked or came off realistic, so he created Negan to do the deed instead.
And then that character just took off like a rocket over time.
But your comment about Roman decimation reminded me of that little "behind the scenes" comic thing because some comic readers wondered if the TV show would "remix" that scene and have Negan force Rick to bludgeon Glenn to death.
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Post by goishen on Dec 3, 2016 5:59:47 GMT
I dunno, I just find Negan to be a pedantic sadist sociopath. *shrug* Sure, can he be amusing at times? Barely. I would've laughed my ass of at thirteen. Too bad I'm forty two. Or forty three. I forget which.
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Post by Galactic Runner on Dec 4, 2016 3:03:53 GMT
Yeah, Rick's group used to be awesome, but they didn't take an arrow to the Negan.
HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
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Post by Dobby on Dec 6, 2016 0:29:09 GMT
Olivia is eating all of Alexandria's rations.
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