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Post by Elfen Lied on Jul 12, 2017 14:02:59 GMT
OP....you understand that it's been that way for nearly any RPG like...EVER right? "Oh..a giant rat took my ring and ran off...could you find me for me for a reward?...oh you know what? NM I'll have my son do it....actually, we understand all the issues in out village/city/region are things our guards or headers or townspeople can do on their own so we will stop bothering yo....you go ahead and drag your unlevelled ass to the castle of ultimate evil so you can get it bitten off, chewed and handed back to you...have fun" This is why I love Shadowrun games. You start as a nobody and in the end you continue to be a nobody, even if you happened to save the world a couple of times along the way.
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Post by Wulfram on Jul 12, 2017 16:24:26 GMT
OP....you understand that it's been that way for nearly any RPG like...EVER right? "Oh..a giant rat took my ring and ran off...could you find me for me for a reward?...oh you know what? NM I'll have my son do it....actually, we understand all the issues in out village/city/region are things our guards or headers or townspeople can do on their own so we will stop bothering yo....you go ahead and drag your unlevelled ass to the castle of ultimate evil so you can get it bitten off, chewed and handed back to you...have fun" This is why I love Shadowrun games. You start as a nobody and in the end you continue to be a nobody, even if you happened to save the world a couple of times along the way. That can itself get a bit silly though. I mean, it at least fits a cyberpunk setting like Shadowrun's attitude and tone, but realistically there comes a point when people should start giving you some respect. It doesn't have to go to Bioware levels of "You're good at killing Darkspawn, why don't you pick our next Monarch and command our army?", and it should definitely take some time to build up - the initial attitude should probably be more along the lines of "Don't think you're a hotshot just because you've got some fancy armour" - but people in the setting should recognise skill and heroism
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Post by Elfen Lied on Jul 12, 2017 17:21:13 GMT
This is why I love Shadowrun games. You start as a nobody and in the end you continue to be a nobody, even if you happened to save the world a couple of times along the way. That can itself get a bit silly though. I mean, it at least fits a cyberpunk setting like Shadowrun's attitude and tone, but realistically there comes a point when people should start giving you some respect. You get the respect of the people who work with you. And perhaps you make a name for yourself in your community and among the shadowrunners of your city. But that's it You'll never become rich or famous. The multi corporations (and also the rest of society) won't ever give a sh*t about you, because you are invisible to them and always will be. And that's what I love about those games. All my characters are happy to be shadowrunners and they wouldn't ever be someone else. There's something romantic about it, way more than becoming "the hero that every person in the world/in the universe worship"
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 13, 2017 21:20:46 GMT
Skyrim: "Dragonborn! You've done five menial tasks that any one of us could have done! Thank you! Here, be our leader!" Yeah it's hardly new to RPG's. That said, not every RPG is like that. I don't think Divinity OS was? But never finished it Its pretty much the entire RPG genre-and not just RPG's either.
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Post by Heimdall on Jul 14, 2017 16:25:10 GMT
That can itself get a bit silly though. I mean, it at least fits a cyberpunk setting like Shadowrun's attitude and tone, but realistically there comes a point when people should start giving you some respect. You get the respect of the people who work with you. And perhaps you make a name for yourself in your community and among the shadowrunners of your city. But that's it You'll never become rich or famous. The multi corporations (and also the rest of society) won't ever give a sh*t about you, because you are invisible to them and always will be. And that's what I love about those games. All my characters are happy to be shadowrunners and they wouldn't ever be someone else. There's something romantic about it, way more than becoming "the hero that every person in the world/in the universe worship" Kinda makes me think of wild west or some pirate stories, the gunslinger/privateer is happy to live the way they are, with a degree of freedom that you don't get with fame, and do some good along the way.
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Post by Elfen Lied on Jul 14, 2017 17:05:20 GMT
You get the respect of the people who work with you. And perhaps you make a name for yourself in your community and among the shadowrunners of your city. But that's it You'll never become rich or famous. The multi corporations (and also the rest of society) won't ever give a sh*t about you, because you are invisible to them and always will be. And that's what I love about those games. All my characters are happy to be shadowrunners and they wouldn't ever be someone else. There's something romantic about it, way more than becoming "the hero that every person in the world/in the universe worship" Kinda makes me think of wild west or some pirate stories, the gunslinger/privateer is happy to live the way they are, with a degree of freedom that you don't get with fame, and do some good along the way. I'd pay anything for a RPG that could provide that kind of experience!
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