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Post by Catilina on Jan 12, 2017 2:40:41 GMT
My Mage Hawke took Blood Mage as his second Specialization, but no abilities from it. Justified as saying he learned about it, so he could know how to recognize it, and counter it, and other such wholesome things. Incidentally, I gave Wynne Blood Magic for her second Specialization in Origins in the same way for the same reasons. As for his Mage-y appearance and the whole "tossing fireballs in front of the Templars" stuff, I headcanon that the same way I headcanon the repetitive environments: Varric's bad at describing it, or possibly just Cassandra's bad at imagining it. Hawke's story is of a larger than life sort of hero, so of course from the perspective of seeing him/her in a story, the idea of a gigantic rain of fireballs being dropped by the mighty Champion is, well, what you'd expect, if you're caught up in Varric's tale. Incidentally I feel like this is even sort of justified in DAI, since Hawke's spells there seem to be pretty subtle if s/he shows up as a Mage. Similarly, if I ever played a Hawke that ever actually used Blood Magic, I'd probably do the same sort of headcanon, after Inquisition: any time we see it is just Cassandra assuming s/he'd use it, because she believes Hawke to be a villainous sort. Hawke don't use magic in Kirkwall's public street (this only stupid game mechanic). Or, if s/he use, then not really leave witnesses... Interesting RP view point to take Blood Magic because useful knowledge, but don't use, because too filthy. Open-minded character, who refuse the dirty tools. I like it.
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Post by lobselvith8 on Jan 31, 2017 12:15:31 GMT
Greetings, The thing with DA2 is that playing as a mage is fantastic gameplay wise ( I would argue that DA2 mage is the best in the series in terms of spell diversity and combat animations) but playing as one require lots of justifications, explanations and head-cannoning. Additionally in DAI, Hawke is shown to detest Blood Magic. Yet, Blood Mage is a specialization in DA2 and Merrill is a Blood Mage. Do you play a mage Hawke who has a rival relationship with Merrill and who is not a Blood Mage ? When I originally played Dragon Age II, my apostate Hawke was friends with Merrill (I strongly dislike rivalry with her). So my question is how do mage Hawke players play him/her in a somewhat believable manner ? What do you do in game to accomplish this ? For those playing on the PC, what mods do you use to aid you ? Seriously, I was on console, so it wasn't really possible for me to do anything in-game about that directly. Do you only wear specific robes or pick specific specializations or have Varric and/or Aveline with you in the party when you go adventuring at all times (Varric for the bribery factor and Aveline for the guard protection factor) ? Did you stick with being Diplomatic personality because Sarcastic and Aggressive personalities might attract too much unnecessary attention ? Or did you do something else ? I am interested to read your comments on this. Have a nice day and cheers. Before Act III, I did wear the Fugitive's Mantle and Malcolm's Bequest, which I felt was a good means of having 'mage attire' that wasn't obviously mage attire like a lot of vanilla choices.
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I can never play as a mage Hawke bc I would have to watch Bethany die
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Post by TheEmptyRoad on Mar 28, 2018 10:24:36 GMT
My next playthrough is as a 'believeable' Mage Hawke.
No big flashy Firestorms/Lighting Strikes, mostly Creation and Entropy trees, specializing in Force Mage/Spirit Healer.
Running up and hitting people with my Stick and NOT wearing Robes, EVER.
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 29, 2018 1:29:08 GMT
I can never play as a mage Hawke bc I would have to watch Bethany die Yeah, that's why my first playthrough was as a warrior. I like Bethany and Carver seemed annoying. But next time I will do a mage playthrough and endure.
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Post by Sundance31us on Apr 6, 2018 20:43:49 GMT
Do you play a mage Hawke who has a rival relationship with Merrill and who is not a Blood Mage ? My primary Hawk is a mage, anti-blood magic...though I don't think I did a rival relationship with Merrill. I play a somewhat conservative mage; he believes in Andraste, hates blood-magic and is generally supportive of the Templars. That said, he's not going to a circle until they actually come and get him. - My previous game upload from DAO is for a female mage Warden Commander who flirted comfortably (he doesn't run away) with Cullen. - After saving/assisting Cullen along the road I cultivate a decent friendship with him; conversation wise I don't outright disagree with him on most issues. - It goes without saying that my Hawk doesn't get along with Justice and he does get a knife in the back. - If my Hawk could have executed the blood-mage gang in the cave he would have; overall that quest was the most difficult because I couldn't roll play it as I wished. - He's careful around Meredith. - Friendly with Orsino, but doesn't side with the mages in the final act. Armor and weapon modes. I have a custom neck tattoo I like to use. I have a mod that lets me wear what I like, so my mage Hawk doesn't go around in robes. Generally diplomatic, but play the scenes as my character would and react accordingly.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 6, 2018 21:00:32 GMT
Do you play a mage Hawke who has a rival relationship with Merrill and who is not a Blood Mage ? My primary Hawk is a mage, anti-blood magic...though I don't think I did a rival relationship with Merrill. I play a somewhat conservative mage; he believes in Andraste, hates blood-magic and is generally supportive of the Templars. That said, he's not going to a circle until they actually come and get him. - My previous game upload from DAO is for a female mage Warden Commander who flirted comfortably (he doesn't run away) with Cullen. - After saving/assisting Cullen along the road I cultivate a decent friendship with him; conversation wise I don't outright disagree with him on most issues. - It goes without saying that my Hawk doesn't get along with Justice and he does get a knife in the back. - If my Hawk could have executed the blood-mage gang in the cave he would have; overall that quest was the most difficult because I couldn't roll play it as I wished. - He's careful around Meredith. - Friendly with Orsino, but doesn't side with the mages in the final act. Armor and weapon modes. I have a custom neck tattoo I like to use. I have a mod that lets me wear what I like, so my mage Hawk doesn't go around in robes. Generally diplomatic, but play the scenes as my character would and react accordingly. Can you explain, how can be "conservative" and generally supporting the Circle, a man, who was pursued in this whole life by the Templars just because he born? Whose greatest fear, that one day (or night) the Templars kicked the door and arrest him and his sister? I never get it. Interesting RP-view, but hard to explain, seems Bethany how hates the Circle – and this is the natural view from a pursued person. Supports the Templars, but not going to the Circle until they don't bring him into the Circle? Quite a hypocrite?
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Post by Sundance31us on Apr 6, 2018 22:17:49 GMT
Can you explain, how can be "conservative" and generally supporting the Circle, a man, who was pursued in this whole life by the Templars just because he born? In my game there's a separation between his personal beliefs and his family obligations; the wishes of both Malcolm (when he was alive) and Leandra influence his actions. If given a choice he would have joined a circle, but his parents didn't want that for either of their children so that's the way it is. After Malcolm dies he's obligated to protect his sister and look after his mother; after he looses them both the game doesn't give us the option to join the circle, so I'm left hunting blood mages, sadistic Templars and assisting where I can. In my game my Hawk doesn't fear being captured personally, but he does fear for his family and will protect his family. Family obligations and game mechanics (can't join the circle even if I wanted to); I enjoy RPing the first one, but if I'm a hypocrite because of the second one so-be-it.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 6, 2018 22:29:30 GMT
Can you explain, how can be "conservative" and generally supporting the Circle, a man, who was pursued in this whole life by the Templars just because he born? In my game there's a separation between his personal beliefs and his family obligations; the wishes of both Malcolm (when he was alive) and Leandra influence his actions. If given a choice he would have joined a circle, but his parents didn't want that for either of their children so that's the way it is. After Malcolm dies he's obligated to protect his sister and look after his mother; after he looses them both the game doesn't give us the option to join the circle, so I'm left hunting blood mages, sadistic Templars and assisting where I can. In my game my Hawk doesn't fear being captured personally, but he does fear for his family and will protect his family. Family obligations and game mechanics (can't join the circle even if I wanted to); I enjoy RPing the first one, but if I'm a hypocrite because of the second one so-be-it. Who wants to be a prisoner, when can be free? Who wants to risk to be watched constantly, tortured, tranquillized, raped, whatever the Templars want to do, when can be free, even if need to hiding. Who wants to be deprived of love, family, when can have a(n almost) normal life? Nobody. There are no good Circles exists, the system doesn't allow it. There are better or worse, but no one good Circle in Southern-Thedas. At the end of DA2, Bethany admits, he was tired to run, but just inside the Circle she shaw, how free was she before, and already sees, her place in the world to fighting for her fellows.
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Post by Sundance31us on Apr 7, 2018 2:18:15 GMT
Who wants to be a prisoner, when can be free? Free to run and hide or to dive into the belly of the beast and try to make a difference. With the exception of becoming tranquil all these things can happen outside the circle at the hands of anyone; when it comes right down to it Kirkwall a bit of a sh*thole and these things are happening all over the place. Given the romance choices he didn't exactly give much up. Maybe if they'd offered a more compelling romance choice I would have altered my play-through, but as it as I found nothing. On a side note: A Catholic priest, monk or nun would deprive themselves of the items listed for their vocation...provided they stick to their vows. She actually says the opposite when I've had her as my living sibling (modded with a mage Hawk or otherwise); conversations change based on decisions through the game.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 7, 2018 8:27:52 GMT
Who wants to be a prisoner, when can be free? Free to run and hide or to dive into the belly of the beast and try to make a difference. With the exception of becoming tranquil all these things can happen outside the circle at the hands of anyone; when it comes right down to it Kirkwall a bit of a sh*thole and these things are happening all over the place. Given the romance choices he didn't exactly give much up. Maybe if they'd offered a more compelling romance choice I would have altered my play-through, but as it as I found nothing. On a side note: A Catholic priest, monk or nun would deprive themselves of the items listed for their vocation...provided they stick to their vows. She actually says the opposite when I've had her as my living sibling (modded with a mage Hawk or otherwise); conversations change based on decisions through the game. Perhaps Kirkwall's Circle is the worst (so: a great idea to siding Meredith, if Bethany inside, and she wants to Annul the Circle... annul Bethany – she's a mage, I just say, without metaknowledge, Hawke can't expect she will survive the massacre!), but every Circle's terrible. My first origin was a Circle Mage... that feeling... I almost supported Uldred, just he was a fool with that abomination stuff. But for a minute I would not think, what I want to do if I get an opportunity to fight against Greagoir and the other Templars: Greagoir wanted to kill my Warden! And the White Spire (Asunder), Cole's Circle... That was almost as terrible ad Kirkwall. The White Spire was an average Circle. I just say: the Circle's not a boarding school or some cool library with happy fellows. This is a cruel place, where the mages surrounded by enemies. Of course, incidents happen, even if you're free, but if you're close, you don't have one little chance to escape from the abuses. Given the in-game romance choices? This not about the in-game romance choices (by the way, except Sebastian, DA2 romances are the best). In fact, the Circle's rules are clear: The mages are the Circle's property, just as their children (not literally, but really), and not because the mage wants it. To be a priest is your choice, nobody hunts you if you don't want to be. Bethany tends to be a martyr. Did you saw her decisions in the Act1? She opposites everything about the Circle. But she feels a burden because she's a mage. She complains to Anders, that others keep her safe, and she admires Anders' courage, he was able to escape. She wants to live a normal life. Nothing else exists what she wants more. Siding with Templars when he's inside the Circle is a rude betrayal. If Hawke does it, ignores Bethany's will. But Bethany will tolerate and will smile, just as always. Because, she's a martyr, and her brother strengthened: she's a burden if don't stay inside the Circle, and enjoy her miserable life inside. Bethany's the Sunshine... And what she says? "Oh, thanks to my brother, you come to crush my dreams! I love you! I know, I'm a monster, I deserve, you fights against me." (And hugs him, if don't let Meredith kill her! ) No. She doesn't say the opposite. She only accepts that Hawke will never care about her. And this is okay in her eyes: she's just a burden, who jeopardizes his family and friends. Bethany hates the Circle (she's not an idiot), but accepts her fate, because she's a good girl, a martyr. How can anyone think, that she happy, if Hawke (her brother/sister) supports her enemies against her? Is it logical?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 8:49:16 GMT
My canon Hawke was a non-committal very reluctant Mage supporter (as he was a Mage himself) and he was more concerned with the affairs of his brother, Carver, than he was about the mage rebellion as a whole despite Ander's best efforts to make him leader of the underground resistance he choice not too. He was also in a rivalry mance with Isabela and they both snarked with one another, making their relationship a strong and healthy one and neither one of them cheated on the other. I image in DA:I he would've bluntly refused to be Inquisitor if asked and was happy that Varric kept his identity a secret, though I do headcount that he flirtly messed with Cassandra in the fade much to my Mage Lavellan's anger, lol. Yeah I like playing a mage in DA:2. Its the only class I play in DA:2. Never beat the game as any other class. Could never kill Carver.
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Post by pavellaning on Jun 19, 2018 18:54:34 GMT
I'm having a lot of fun playing as a Mage Hawke. She is pretty much Vivienne lite (aka pro-Circle, pro-Tranquility opportunist).
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