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Post by lynroy on Sept 18, 2016 5:17:13 GMT
I can't kill Alistair at all even in the DA Keep. I can't leave Anders alive even in the DA Keep. I was only able to make it through DA2 because of Varric. I only felt horrible for leaving Hawke in the Fade because of Varric. I punched Dorian and laughed hysterically.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 5:23:16 GMT
You do realize that Alistair can be left a Warden, right? He only discards though as king when he's unhardened - if he's Hardended, you can remain as his mistress - I feel like it's the players fault in this though, as you can choice make him Hardended very quite easily... I don't really care for Zev's romance in the first place.. Yup, I knew he could be made a warden, I loved him as warden but then I had to sacrifice Hawke in the fade, because I refused to lose Allister, and then Varric was so upset because Hawke was gone...it broke my heart. Not to mention leaving Anora on the throne didn't sit well with me. I've never played Allister as hardened...I cringe while writing this next question, but...damn...how hardened does Allister have to be before he keeps you as mistress? Not very, all you have to do is press the "Everyone is out for themselves, you should know that" diaglous.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 5:25:17 GMT
I like DA2 Anders, I think, he is one of the best characters in the whole series (if not the best). Why much people want to back Awakening-Anders, when DA2 Anders much complex and interesting? And why want to excuse Anders from responsibility and say: those who blew up the Chantry was Vengeance? No: that was Justice/Vengeance AND Anders (and most of my Hawkes support him). When first time I played with Dragon Age Origins as Surana (few years ago) then I thought the Circle-system unjust, cruel and inhuman. But this was only the "happy" Ferelden Circle. Later I got the DA2, and I saw the Kirkwall Circle, and realized, how dangerous, and I don't understand, how some people can say: the Circle-system is good? Oh, I agree, the circle system, once corrupted, is not a good thing at all. With DA2 you find out it's not just mages that are vulnerable to possession and it's quite easy to secretly take over a garrison full of Templars. The justification for the abuse in Kirkwall is laughable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 5:32:35 GMT
Yup, I knew he could be made a warden, I loved him as warden but then I had to sacrifice Hawke in the fade, because I refused to lose Allister, and then Varric was so upset because Hawke was gone...it broke my heart. Not to mention leaving Anora on the throne didn't sit well with me. I've never played Allister as hardened...I cringe while writing this next question, but...damn...how hardened does Allister have to be before he keeps you as mistress? Not very, all you have to do is press the "Everyone is out for themselves, you should know that" diaglous. Is this with him as warden or king or both? If as king, how does he feel about you after you ship him off to Morrigan. (that's another reason I don't stick with him, I don't what it'll take for him to walkout...well, except for recruiting Logain.
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Sept 18, 2016 5:36:22 GMT
I miss the power wheel in DAI -- the combat/skills in DAI for me are meh.
The combat of DA2 is generally the most fun for me to play.
I don't care for the Dorian/Bull paring.
I have never killed Anders, never will and I think what they had a Hawke who disapproved of his actions say about him is bullshit. My Hawkes are still his friend.
idgaf, I love Anders and I think he deserves better.
I like the horse mounts in DAI.
I still want to be a dragon.
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Post by dragontartare on Sept 18, 2016 6:37:08 GMT
I just clicked on Cullen in DA2 to hear some of his idles, and after talking about Thrask and about the dead Templars in the chantry, he said, "I have been hearing some interesting things about your sister, Hawke. I hope they're not true."
...it's too bad that knife just...flew out of nowhere, right into his chest. Such a tragedy.
(I actually do like Cullen as a character and romanced him in DAI, but I've never heard that quote before, and I got this sudden, violent urge...)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 6:57:27 GMT
Not very, all you have to do is press the "Everyone is out for themselves, you should know that" diaglous. Is this with him as warden or king or both? If as king, how does he feel about you after you ship him off to Morrigan. (that's another reason I don't stick with him, I don't what it'll take for him to walkout...well, except for recruiting Logain. No, it's a part of his personal quest, and you'd know if you played it. And I've had Zev try and kill me before - by not getting his approval high enough, he betrays you I'd consider that 'walking' out on you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 6:59:47 GMT
I don't care for the Dorian/Bull paring. I've never had them. Honestly, I never did. I considered it better when they were single...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 7:24:17 GMT
Is this with him as warden or king or both? If as king, how does he feel about you after you ship him off to Morrigan. (that's another reason I don't stick with him, I don't what it'll take for him to walkout...well, except for recruiting Logain. No, it's a part of his personal quest, and you'd know if you played it. And I've had Zev try and kill me before - by not getting his approval high enough, he betrays you I'd consider that 'walking' out on you. Does it come up as a response to the Goldana meeting? If so, no, I usually play the part of a good friend and be sympathetic. And yes, I know zev will turn on you, that's why as a warden about to possibly die, I prefer to keep a light romance going instead of going for someone as clingy as Allister is. The way I see it, I'm a warden slowly dying from the blight, I have to kill an archdemon and risk my life doing so, and Allister is royalty so his life can't be risked, so when the time comes I'll sacrafice myself to save Allister if I have to. As far as my warden's concerned, her life is over and a relationship that's too serious is problematic. She lost inerest in Allister the minute he told her he was the bastard son of Maric and Zev is just a good stress reliever.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 7:27:22 GMT
No, it's a part of his personal quest, and you'd know if you played it. And I've had Zev try and kill me before - by not getting his approval high enough, he betrays you I'd consider that 'walking' out on you. Does it come up as a response to the Goldana meeting? If so, no, I usually play the part of a good friend and be sympathetic. Yes it does. Once you get out of the house, that's one of the choices.
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Post by Ieldra on Sept 18, 2016 7:27:29 GMT
My main Hawke, Rowan Hawke, killed her lover Anders in the end, not as punishment for what he'd done, but because he'd make a good martyr for the mage cause. He seemed to want it, too, so she didn't feel guilty about it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 7:37:51 GMT
Does it come up as a response to the Goldana meeting? If so, no, I usually play the part of a good friend and be sympathetic. Yes it does. Once you get out of the house, that's one of the choices. Ok then no, I haven't done that. Hmmm...maybe i'll try it out one day. One thing, on the fan made videos I've seen a scene where Allister confronts Morrigan outside in the rain, but I've never been able to find it, how does that scene trigger or do I need a mod? Do you know?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 7:39:57 GMT
I friendshipped Anders at first with a snarky female Mage, who killed him and sided with the mages. That was my first playthrough at DA2. I love Alistair unbashfully. Seriously, I love him so much, I feel guilt about not killing Loghian. I love Cassie as well - they are my two favorite romances in game. My Lavellan is not what I expected him to be - I expected him to be in more control of his emontions; be the pefrect Slytherin in a Ravenclaw oufit, or otherwise; what I RPed him as was a sad clown who got easily angry easily, and was kind of nice, behind all that acting he put on while attempting to be Inquistor (pefrect, proper, emontless; the pefrect leader) while he acts differently around companions... Like Sera, who breaks things down into tiny pieces and gets rid of all that acting; she makes him bluntly honest, in all honesty. Lol, I could go on and on about my Quizzie; I've been rather delighted and fantasied with him as of late... I never let Anders live for his actions in game (in the keep, he was left alive by a trolling female aggressive Hawke who rivalmanced him). I don't like Blackwall. I'd send him to the fade like my dup Hawkes I make in the Keep (no consciousness about doing so) and my Canon would've done it without a second thought. If my Wardens dies, I'd be so fucking sad to see Alistair crying over my Couslands body, that It might kill me. I don't think I'll ever play DA again if I saw that... I love Wynne in DAO and i was sad to hear that she died...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 7:40:57 GMT
Yes it does. Once you get out of the house, that's one of the choices. Ok then no, I haven't done that. Hmmm...maybe i'll try it out one day. One thing, on the fan made videos I've seen a scene where Allister confronts Morrigan outside in the rain, but I've never been able to find it, how does that scene trigger or do I need a mod? Do you know? It's a mod I believe, I've never gotten that scene prior.
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Sept 18, 2016 7:44:36 GMT
I don't care for the Dorian/Bull paring. I've never had them. Honestly, I never did. I considered it better when they were single... I've never had them together in my plays either (though I have seen it). I'm not against side-parings, I'm just not a fan of this one.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 7:45:24 GMT
Ok then no, I haven't done that. Hmmm...maybe i'll try it out one day. One thing, on the fan made videos I've seen a scene where Allister confronts Morrigan outside in the rain, but I've never been able to find it, how does that scene trigger or do I need a mod? Do you know? It's a mod I believe, I've never gotten that scene prior. Ok..It's a neat scene, but I never saw what lead up to it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 7:49:14 GMT
It's a mod I believe, I've never gotten that scene prior. Ok..It's a neat scene, but I never saw what lead up to it. Oh, lol. I'd download it on my mod manager if that's what it takes.
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Post by Shizuka on Sept 18, 2016 8:26:07 GMT
1. I can't kill Alistair. Not in DAO, not in DA:I. (Trying this time in DA:I but I already caught myself losing sleep over it).
2. I can't kill Anders. BUT have to kill femHawke in DAI because of my canon world state and because of 1. - so he loses his love interest.
3. I started to sympathize with Loghain whilst reading "The stolen throne"
4. I am a solasmancer...
5. ...but I'm already looking forward to punch him in the face this playthrough.
6. My characters do what they want, fight who they want, romance who they want. None of this is in my hands.
7. In my opinion Cullen has one of the best character developments throughout all three games.
8. Anora is a great queen.
9. Anders tried his best to change things. I do NOT say his "best" was a good idea at all. (I've got a thing for people desperately trying to do what's right - and going all wrong)
10. I like the companiens in DAO - Awakening.
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Post by Beregond5 on Sept 18, 2016 8:50:47 GMT
I always harden Alistair, except when I'm playing a Fem!Cousland. In my defense, though, I put a mod in the game and I'm going for the gentler: 'You're not an idiot, you just need to stand up for yourself more.' With that said, I'll never have a Warden Alistair in Dragon Age Inquisition. I prefer Stroud to get the boot every time. *Maybe* I'll load a world where Loghain is a Warden though. Though it will still be an easy choice between him and Hawke. In DA2, I always play parallel playthroughs, one where Anders is romanced and one where my Hawke romances someone else, because rejecting him always makes me feel guilty. I always let Morrigan drink from the Well. I feel horrible for killing the dragons in DA:I, even though I try to rationalise - and the NPCs tell me - that they're dangerous. At least I can set one free in Trespasser. In fact, I try not to kill anything and anyone in DA:I unless it can't be helped - as in, I'm attacked first.
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Post by our_lady_of_darkness on Sept 18, 2016 9:18:12 GMT
A part of me is still bummed that Cassandra isn't a bi choice. I really like Vivienne and Morrigan, just love their withering putdowns. I use the Black Emporium an unhealthy number of times in all my playthroughs. I grok you completely here. Also: My Hawke never dies in the fade. Just no, not gonna happen. I can't stand Oghren. I can't stop playing Adaar in DAI. The broodmother chant in DAO scares me in the worst way possible. Cole is my least used companion in DAI, just don't have the patience to listen to him DA2 has the best lines in the entire series, imo. I appreciate the fact that Hawke can't win against the circumstances in DA2. It makes for a fascinating and moving story.
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Post by cribbian on Sept 18, 2016 9:29:30 GMT
In DA2 I did the trick where you just run past the Dalish and zone out. That way I could choose the dialouge option I wanted without having to kill them.
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Post by Crim on Sept 18, 2016 12:13:04 GMT
I forced my poor Lavellan to desecrate the graves in Var Bellanaris. I'm sorry, dear Lavellan, but I really need that mosaic piece for Skyhold's walls.I would gladly trade the Fallow Mire, Forbidden Oasis and Hissing Wastes for more companion/romance quests. Speaking of the Hissing Wastes I've just started it, ugh all those tombs I'll have to find. Hate this zone but I want that loot! One of my favourite moments in the entire series was when "Daylen Amell, the Asshole Mage" deflowered Gheyna at the Dalish camp, and then went boldly back to Cammen to boast of his conquest. My absolute favourite came a moment later, when the message appeared, "Wynne Approves +10"Rofl, that's terrible. In all my playthroughs I've never once completed all the mosaics or the astrarium puzzles. I also prefer a hardened Leliana in DAI but softening her is better for her soul. Really enjoyed my one bloody Sith Divine run tho.
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Post by pensieve on Sept 18, 2016 12:47:29 GMT
- I never finished DA2. I never even went on that expedition with Bartrand (or whatever he's called). I did 3 quests that all sent me to the same cave again and again and I just rage quitted. When Dragon Age Keep came out I made my Hawke romance Fenris and that's the world state I always play with.
- It took me 2 playthroughs of DAI to realize the Temple of Sacred Ashes is the same Temple of Sacred Ashes in DA Origins when you have to get the ashes from the temple...
- I like to offend Vivienne by waiting to accept her invitation until after I'm made Inquisitor and then go tell her I don't need her.
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Post by phoray on Sept 18, 2016 14:01:19 GMT
You do realize that Alistair can be left a Warden, right? He only discards though as king when he's unhardened - if he's Hardended, you can remain as his mistress - I feel like it's the players fault in this though, as you can choice make him Hardended very quite easily... I don't really care for Zev's romance in the first place.. Yup, I knew he could be made a warden, I loved him as warden but then I had to sacrifice Hawke in the fade, because I refused to lose Allister, and then Varric was so upset because Hawke was gone...it broke my heart. Not to mention leaving Anora on the throne didn't sit well with me. I've never played Allister as hardened...I cringe while writing this next question, but...damn...how hardened does Allister have to be before he keeps you as mistress? The only difference is you have to tell him that "Most people are out for themselves." I think, un modified, Alistair is very swayed by mass opinion. And the Warden saying that, in a sensitive moment when his mind is very receptive, gets him thiking that maybe everyone else's opinion doesn't matter so much and he should take his own council more. But Alistair absolutely does not want to be King at all, so you have to heavily disregard his opinion to put him on the throne. My 1st PT, I listened to him and let him be a Warden with my City Elf, so no sad ending.
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Post by phoray on Sept 18, 2016 14:07:22 GMT
My main Hawke, Rowan Hawke, killed her lover Anders in the end, not as punishment for what he'd done, but because he'd make a good martyr for the mage cause. He seemed to want it, too, so she didn't feel guilty about it. Was it a friend mance? Because on the Friendmance path, I also get the feeling that he wants you to kill him as a martyr for the mage cause. On the rival path, he seems totally out of control of himself and it seems more like a pity kill- he wants to die because he just wants the battle in his own head to stop.
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