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Post by tigerlily87 on Mar 23, 2017 14:36:34 GMT
I've only played Inquisition so far but:
-judgements were by far one of my favorite parts of the game. I kind of wish you could question them in the dungeon area of sky hold first
-I kind of wish that advisors were available as companions
-I found it humorous that Blackwall makes a rocking horse for the kids in camp but we never see any. Kind of relieved as the kids and some of the women in skyrim were my least favorite part of that game
-I wish that there were more clothing options at skyhold, and for everyone
-I wish that skyhold was more customizable
-where do Varrick, Dorian, Cassandra, Leliana, Cole and Josie all sleep? Everyone else has couches or beds
-I hated Cass and loved Leli when I started. By the end that was severely reversed
-I had no emotional attachment to Bull
-I would have liked more lighthearted scenes like Wicked Grace and the pub scenes
-lone wolf quests would have been cool
-why can't I have a thicker character other than a dwarf?
-Solas should have lived in the creepy Skyhold library in the basement
-the Hinterlands took up way too much time
-if romances, you should be able to go with Solas. I could seriously see the Inquisitor going mad trying to find and/or reunite with him
-blackwall was entirely too easy to lock in a relationship l think I flirted once and I was locked.
-mini games would be cool, like actually playing chess with Cullen or target practice with Sera
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Post by Catilina on Mar 23, 2017 16:31:23 GMT
As far as I'm concerned a lot of Wardens are out of character when carried in DAA and DAI. All those bound to duty that couldn't care less to cure the calling were forced to abandon Thedas because BioWare made them all the selfish type of warden. Most people are selfish, why they would be exceptions?
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Mar 25, 2017 1:20:26 GMT
As far as I'm concerned a lot of Wardens are out of character when carried in DAA and DAI. All those bound to duty that couldn't care less to cure the calling were forced to abandon Thedas because BioWare made them all the selfish type of warden. Most people are selfish, why they would be exceptions? If these games are Rpg and that is a character of mine then it should obey to me and if I've created it to not be selfish even to the point of risking an US then he should behave accordingly to that nature otherwise is just BioWare ignoring player choices. Search for a cure in the middle of nowhere when Corypheus,Solas and co are destroying the entire globe not only is selfish but is idiotic as well. Sure cure the calling but you should see if that HoF can live in space once the world is gone.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 25, 2017 2:49:17 GMT
Most people are selfish, why they would be exceptions? If these games are Rpg and that is a character of mine then it should obey to me and if I've created it to not be selfish even to the point of risking an US then he should behave accordingly to that nature otherwise is just BioWare ignoring player choices. Search for a cure in the middle of nowhere when Corypheus,Solas and co are destroying the entire globe not only is selfish but is idiotic as well. Sure cure the calling but you should see if that HoF can live in space once the world is gone. You're right. This was a lame solution, and I think many people felt similar, as you. But there is an explanation (I know, not a strong explanation but still): your Warden is just a Warden, so be glad that s/he doesn't be crazy due of the False Calling. The farther away from Corypheus, even better. (For example, Hawke explained why he left Anders in a safe place: because they hear the False Calling.) I wrote not once: we have only false freedom. These are good games, but not perfect, and don't forget, this is a series. Many people have selfish, evil Warden. I was disappointed, that all my Hawke felt responsible about this crappy Corypheus, and all was a burned out grumpy bastard, when most of them never ever felt responsible for anything just his family and friends. Not mentioned, my poor blood mage... Bioware needed a new protagonist. So: your hero disappeared, just as Hawke (and when appeared, was all Hawke the same), and as I see: the Inquisitor will disappear, no matter, that kept the Inquisition active. I think, if we will see our Inquisitors, we may be disappointed.
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Post by Mark7 on Mar 25, 2017 3:15:08 GMT
I'm just glad they fired David Gaider he was an horrible writer. His solution to try to explain why all HoF were not in Ferelden during Inquisition worked only for DR-runners as far as I'm concerned. It didn't worked at all in my case. Pretending that one of the rulers of Ferelden has abandoned his nation and the Queen in order to follow the leads of one of their enemies(let's not forget this quest begun with Morrigan in WH)doesn't make any sense. I've never listened to Morrigan so why now I should follow her lead and exile myself to abandon all the citizens to the demons? Hawke was even worse he was in many cases 100% OOC.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 25, 2017 3:47:12 GMT
I'm just glad they fired David Gaider he was an horrible writer. His solution to try to explain why all HoF were not in Ferelden during Inquisition worked only for DR-runners as far as I'm concerned. It didn't worked at all in my case. Pretending that one of the rulers of Ferelden has abandoned his nation and the Queen in order to follow the leads of one of their enemies(let's not forget this quest begun with Morrigan in WH)doesn't make any sense. I've never listened to Morrigan so why now I should follow her lead and exile myself to abandon all the citizens to the demons? Hawke was even worse he was in many cases 100% OOC. Because the DR-runners is probably the majority, as I see, and yes, you're right, this is not the best writing. But the US Wardens are already dead. Who asked Loghain/Alistair to sacrifice himself, may be selfish... not in all case, but not excluded. So: it was easier to write a similar continuation. In Inquisition? Yes, Hawke was OOC. For me, ofc, but not for everyone.
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Post by opuspace on Mar 25, 2017 7:00:40 GMT
Every time I see Solas' head, I'm tempted to rub it for luck. It's so shiiiiny.
*Waits for him to stonefist the Inquisitor to oblivion...*
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 25, 2017 23:06:48 GMT
tigerlily87 Cassandra sleeps in a pallet above the armory and Cole doesn't sleep. The rest are a mystery, however!
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Post by phoray on Mar 26, 2017 3:24:20 GMT
I used my first grenade in DA2 today Cuz I am slow when it comes to combat stuff.
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Post by tigerlily87 on Mar 26, 2017 23:55:37 GMT
tigerlily87 Cassandra sleeps in a pallet above the armory and Cole doesn't sleep. The rest are a mystery, however! Yeah, my fiancé mentioned the same about Cassandra. Cole if he becomes human I somehow headcannon having a stuffed rabbit and knocking on Blackwall's door asking if he could bunk in there, or perhaps he finds a comfy table in the tavern lol. It's undetermined how much sleep Solas needs as an eleven god...maybe he steals the couch sometimes.
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Post by duskwanderer on Mar 27, 2017 2:24:11 GMT
Confessions, then...
I really, REALLY wish I could punch Dorian after his personal quest. Or Gaider. For all this talk about how ME:A had child-like and cliched writing (and there were parts that did, don't get me wrong), I felt like I was in an after-school special. Sometimes, when I'm in the Descent, in the second-to-last place with that underground ocean, I make him jump into the water.
I YouTube the Fade meeting with Flemeth from time to time. Just the part where she talks and tells us her story. That was incredibly well done.
I keep a save where I glitched through the ground and am at the pie man altar. I almost finished my ritualistic chant.
I used to think that helping Abelas and his crew was great. After playing through Trespasser, I kill them all and love it.
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Post by Iddy on Mar 27, 2017 15:58:18 GMT
I'm just glad they fired David Gaider he was an horrible writer. His solution to try to explain why all HoF were not in Ferelden during Inquisition worked only for DR-runners as far as I'm concerned. It didn't worked at all in my case. Pretending that one of the rulers of Ferelden has abandoned his nation and the Queen in order to follow the leads of one of their enemies(let's not forget this quest begun with Morrigan in WH)doesn't make any sense. I've never listened to Morrigan so why now I should follow her lead and exile myself to abandon all the citizens to the demons? Hawke was even worse he was in many cases 100% OOC. Because the DR-runners is probably the majority, as I see, and yes, you're right, this is not the best writing. But the US Wardens are already dead. Who asked Loghain/Alistair to sacrifice himself, may be selfish... not in all case, but not excluded. So: it was easier to write a similar continuation. In Inquisition? Yes, Hawke was OOC. For me, ofc, but not for everyone. It actually is Loghain/Alistair who asks the Warden to be the one to make the sacrifice.
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Post by phoray on Mar 27, 2017 16:07:36 GMT
Because the DR-runners is probably the majority, as I see, and yes, you're right, this is not the best writing. But the US Wardens are already dead. Who asked Loghain/Alistair to sacrifice himself, may be selfish... not in all case, but not excluded. So: it was easier to write a similar continuation. In Inquisition? Yes, Hawke was OOC. For me, ofc, but not for everyone. It actually is Loghain/Alistair who asks the Warden to be the one to make the sacrifice. They both take turns volunteering to be the Fade Spider Sacrifice. Which I find out of character. Because Hawke is only helping to stop Coryphaeus, a being she feels responsible for releasing. And somehow being left in the Fade to keep some random senior Warden alive fulfills that goal? It doesn't. Also, I have Hawke's that have absolutely 0 interest in dying, at all for any reason, that would never say that line. I just don't use those Hawke's for DAI anymore.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 27, 2017 16:12:36 GMT
Because the DR-runners is probably the majority, as I see, and yes, you're right, this is not the best writing. But the US Wardens are already dead. Who asked Loghain/Alistair to sacrifice himself, may be selfish... not in all case, but not excluded. So: it was easier to write a similar continuation. In Inquisition? Yes, Hawke was OOC. For me, ofc, but not for everyone. It actually is Loghain/Alistair who asks the Warden to be the one to make the sacrifice. I don't find that very relevant. This not excluded, that the Warden is selfish. The starting point was that why s/he looking for a cure of the Taint, instead to help to the Inquisition. In addition, to search for the cure, in my eyes, not (only) a selfish thing: there are much Warden, who need that, AND: if the Taint isn't deadly anymore, the recruitment may easier in the future, so, can help to fight against the Arch Demons.
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Post by Iddy on Mar 27, 2017 16:17:28 GMT
It actually is Loghain/Alistair who asks the Warden to be the one to make the sacrifice. They both take turns volunteering to be the Fade Spider Sacrifice. Which I find out of character. Because Hawke is only helping to stop Coryphaeus, a being she feels responsible for releasing. And somehow being left in the Fade to keep some random senior Warden alive fulfills that goal? It doesn't. Also, I have Hawke's that have absolutely 0 interest in dying, at all for any reason, that would never say that line. I just don't use those Hawke's for DAI anymore. I'm talking about DAO.
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Post by phoray on Mar 27, 2017 16:23:08 GMT
They both take turns volunteering to be the Fade Spider Sacrifice. Which I find out of character. Because Hawke is only helping to stop Coryphaeus, a being she feels responsible for releasing. And somehow being left in the Fade to keep some random senior Warden alive fulfills that goal? It doesn't. Also, I have Hawke's that have absolutely 0 interest in dying, at all for any reason, that would never say that line. I just don't use those Hawke's for DAI anymore. I'm talking about DAO. Oh. My only experience with the US is when Loghain insisted that he take the blow, knowing it would kill him. When I agreed, he was like, "Good. Glad I don't have to argue with you about it." Then runs off to stab the AD. I'm pretty sure a romanced Alistair doesn't let you take the blow at all. Maybe only an unromanced Alistair asks you to take the blow?
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Post by oyabun on Mar 30, 2017 1:57:16 GMT
It actually is Loghain/Alistair who asks the Warden to be the one to make the sacrifice. I don't find that very relevant. This not excluded, that the Warden is selfish. The starting point was that why s/he looking for a cure of the Taint, instead to help to the Inquisition. In addition, to search for the cure, in my eyes, not (only) a selfish thing: there are much Warden, who need that, AND: if the Taint isn't deadly anymore, the recruitment may easier in the future, so, can help to fight against the Arch Demons. There are several arguments you've made that I wanted to adress,but for the sake of simplicity I'm gonna quote only this post. -Corypheus' calling wasn't a big deal for the GW in DAI,there were several GW who were unaffected by it and so that can't be the reason that explain why the HoF was not in Ferelden(which was not even influenced by Corypheus' calling only Orlais was) -Corypheus' body jump ability was also a non-issue for the GW NOR for the HoF,as he is able to body jump only upon his own death(he has no control over the ability),that's how GW captured him in the past,they have simply defeated him without killing him. -DR runners(which are mostly hardcore fans) aren't the majority,US players are the majority,DR runners are a majority on this forum. On the old official BioWare forum in 2009(Age of release of DAO) there were a lot of Non DR-runners but since Gaider cared to invest more resources only in the DR outcome many of these players have decided to not reinvest in DA(so you won't see them here).The majority of world-states imported in DAI are all US loaded by all those players who have never played or finished DAO,for those who never subscribed to use the DA keep and also for those who don't have a legal copy for DAI+ all those who rejected it in DAO and those who play on console without it having an internet connection to use the DA Keep. -If a Warden has achieved the Warden Commander ending or the Redemption ending that doesn't mean they share the same mindset of a warden that does the DR simply because if they sacrificed Loghain\Alistair only for their own survival then they weren't that consistent with their own reasonings when they refused the DR(personal survival)and if they did that only has a means to kill Loghain/Alistair then well they already had the Landsmeet to accomplish that. Using Alistair it simply mean following the tradition,senior GW die.Using Loghain simply means you respect his last wish and allows him to finish the AD on his own.None of the above reasons has anything to do with the DR reasons. -Both Gaider and Weekes wanted to include the HoF in DAI with the purpose of killing him/her. Gaider wanted to make them the first choice for the Inquisition(as Cassandra said in the ending of DA2)only to kill them at the conclave.Weekes instead wanted to include them and kill them as the meta-suit of the Architect which in Weekes mind survived the battle against the warden in DAA and had to be part of the quest he wrote for DAI(Here lies the abyss)When he was killed(if he was) he had to body-jump in the body of the HoF to resume from them several years later with the same kind of ability Corypheus had and if the Architect wasn't killed in DAA then the HoF would have died the way of Gaider at the conclave. All of these plot-lines were deleted because they did not had the resources to accomplish that and even the Architect was not included in the original plot line of Here lies the abyss.That's how much the writers cares for the HoF. Mind you I got those info from interviews long ago so now I assume they've just decided to use the calling to achieve what they wanted to happen for the HoF in DAI,without them having to bother the plot to explain why they will die.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 30, 2017 2:21:45 GMT
I don't find that very relevant. This not excluded, that the Warden is selfish. The starting point was that why s/he looking for a cure of the Taint, instead to help to the Inquisition. In addition, to search for the cure, in my eyes, not (only) a selfish thing: there are much Warden, who need that, AND: if the Taint isn't deadly anymore, the recruitment may easier in the future, so, can help to fight against the Arch Demons. There are several arguments you've made that I wanted to adress,but for the sake of simplicity I'm gonna quote only this post.
-Corypheus' calling wasn't a big deal for the GW in DAI,there were several GW who were unaffected by it and so that can't be the reason that explain why the HoF was not in Ferelden(which was not even influenced by Corypheus' calling only Orlais was)
-Corypheus' body jump ability was also a non-issue for the GW NOR for the HoF,as he is able to body jump only upon his own death(he has no control over the ability),that's how GW captured him in the past,they have simply defeated him without killing him.
-DR runners(which are mostly hardcore fans) aren't the majority,US players are the majority,DR runners are a majority on this forum. On the old official BioWare forum in 2009(Age of release of DAO) there were a lot of Non DR-runners but since Gaider cared to invest more resources only in the DR outcome many of these players have decided to not reinvest in DA(so you won't see them here).The majority of world-states imported in DAI are all US loaded by all those players who have never played or finished DAO,for those who never subscribed to use the DA keep and also for those who don't have a legal copy for DAI+ all those who rejected it in DAO and those who play on console without it having an internet connection to use the DA Keep.
-If a Warden has achieved the Warden Commander ending or the Redemption ending that doesn't mean they share the same mindset of a warden that does the DR simply because if they sacrificed Loghain\Alistair only for their own survival then they weren't that consistent with their own reasonings when they refused the DR(personal survival)and if they did that only has a means to kill Loghain/Alistair then well they already had the Landsmeet to accomplish that. Using Alistair it simply mean following the tradition,senior GW die.Using Loghain simply means you respect his last wish and allows him to finish the AD on his own.None of the above reasons has anything to do with the DR reasons.
-Both Gaider and Weekes wanted to include the HoF in DAI with the purpose of killing him/her. Gaider wanted to make them the first choice for the Inquisition(as Cassandra said in the ending of DA2)only to kill them at the conclave.Weekes instead wanted to include them and kill them as the meta-suit of the Architect which in Weekes mind survived the battle against the warden in DAA and had to be part of the quest he wrote for DAI(Here lies the abyss)When he was killed(if he was) he had to body-jump in the body of the HoF to resume from them several years later with the same kind of ability Corypheus had and if the Architect wasn't killed in DAA then the HoF would have died the way of Gaider at the conclave. All of these plot-lines were deleted because they did not had the resources to accomplish that and even the Architect was not included in the original plot line of Here lies the abyss. That's how much the writers cares for the HoF.Of course, not at all. His/her story is over, s/he is gone. Died or sacrificed him/herself or went away to search the cure. This latter isn't selfish on my eyes, but it does not matter; the point is, that you're right: the writers don't care about the HoF. And don't care about Hawke, and will not care about our Inquisitors. I can imagine, that Leliana, Cassandra or Vivienne will disappear, die or something, and in Southern-Thedas will rule a progressive-conservative Divine (Cassandra-like), just because of easier to apply to the next story. Or they will not be mentioned. Do not be right! This is a series, we have only false freedom in decisions and in the characterizations.
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Post by phoray on Mar 30, 2017 7:01:21 GMT
It wasn't until my third PT of Origins that I realized the Warden had a voice they used over and over while walking around. I thought it was some female companion , cuz duh, my Warden is unvoiced.
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Post by phoray on Mar 31, 2017 19:30:19 GMT
I've played all three games 3-4 times and read the books. And I still have no idea what the differences are between mage factions. "Aquatarian libertarian frosty snowman wha-?"
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Post by melbella on Apr 1, 2017 16:29:43 GMT
I've played all three games 3-4 times and read the books. And I still have no idea what the differences are between mage factions. "Aquatarian libertarian frosty snowman wha-?"
I believe the different factions are described in the codex (that you never read ).
The thing I like about the DA codex (and the WoT books also) is it isn't written from some impartial, third party, omniscient viewpoint. Everything is written by someone in the world and includes their biases and perceptions. So, informative, but not necessarily reliable or true. The creature entries written by Baron whatshisface you meet in JoH are extremely hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 21:23:12 GMT
Senior Enchanter Torrin in the Mage Origin also explains the differences between the mage factions. From his point of view, but still. Aqueterians want to compromise between the mages and templars. Liberterians want to be free (be free from their lies they are so self satisfied weeee don't neeeed them), Loyalist believe the Chantry is right about everything and their rules should be followed and Lucrotians just want to get rich. Probably wrote the names wrong. As for a confession, Skinner from the Chargers scares me and I find the "Drink together" cutscene very unnerving after I realized she sits right next to the Inquisitor. :C Nesiara from the elven origin also unnerves me, with her creepy chuckle.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 2, 2017 2:48:14 GMT
The Circle of Magi Fraternities of Enchanters
The Loyalist are idiots. Each, without exception. (Vivienne)The Aequitarians are benevolent foolish. (Wynne)The Libertarians the only normal fraction. (Fiona)
The Isolationists are weird, but benevolent. (Niall – DAO, Fade)The Lucrosians are as the Magisters. Dangerous. (Uldred)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 3:09:24 GMT
Catilina Uldred is a Liberterian. Lucrosians are all about the money, power comes second.
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Post by phoray on Apr 2, 2017 3:09:42 GMT
The Circle of Magi Fraternities of Enchanters
The Loyalist are idiots. Each, without exception. (Vivienne)The Aequitarians are benevolent foolish. (Wynne)The Libertarians the only normal fraction. (Fiona)
The Isolationists are weird, but benevolent. (Niall – DAO, Fade)The Lucrosians are as the Magisters. Dangerous. (Uldred)Nice explaination. But I think Fiona and that red head that murdered a Tranquil in the book are idiots. What is Anders?
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