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Post by vertigomez on Oct 13, 2017 4:19:51 GMT
I like Hawke best as a mage.
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Post by simit on Oct 16, 2017 22:25:30 GMT
All classes suit hawke, none being better nor worse than the other, ppl have there preference though an will argue theres is the right choice.
Its the one DA game i liked all classes an nigh all specs an all, outside some facepalm dialogue, fit
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Post by Exile Isan on Oct 17, 2017 4:58:42 GMT
I play Hawke as a mage for one reason and one reason only: Carver. Carver is my favorite character in all of Dragon Age and to see him get killed by that ogre at the beginning of the game... Nope, can't do it.
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Post by scarlet on Nov 1, 2017 10:49:44 GMT
I usually pick a rogue - archer, the same as in Origins but this is only because I really don't like Carver, just... Ugh... Let him die :| But the mage is much more fun. Plot-wise, I think the mage is better as we have some interesting dialogue options. That is why I still have not which of these two is my canon.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 1, 2017 11:12:40 GMT
I usually pick a rogue - archer, the same as in Origins but this is only because I really don't like Carver, just... Ugh... Let him die :| But the mage is much more fun. Plot-wise, I think the mage is better as we have some interesting dialogue options. That is why I still have not which of these two is my canon. Carver is funnier than Bethany! Eh...
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Post by TheHeroOfFerelden on Nov 1, 2017 13:11:35 GMT
Even though my preference is a warrior,in the "Destiny"trailer he seems to be not just a mere mage but an arcane warrior(Eldritch Knight in D&D terms).
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Post by mike3207 on Nov 19, 2017 0:57:07 GMT
I could see picking a warrior or rogue-if we had Bethany for the entire game as a companion.
We don't, so mage is the obvious choice.
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Post by fylimar on Nov 19, 2017 10:39:43 GMT
I'm still a big rogue fan, because they just rock in every game, but lately, I tend to play mages more often, because I want to have Carver alive for once (I like both siblings, but I had bethany so often alive, that I like Carver around for a change)and I'm a bit sick of the drama queens Merrill and Anders, so I just do the job myself and leave those two at home for a while. I have a staff that looks like a spear (it's from a mod and I really love that staff, because it's a bit more simple with only a crystal at one end and a blade on the other) and when I have fights, where are templars present in act 1 and 2, I simply use the staff as a weapon - apart from Kevan, who probably would keep his mouth shut, otherwise I would simply tell Cullen, he is possessed, and Emeric, who seems to be a cool dude about Hawke using magic. I guess, he is so thankful that someone believes him, that he doesn't care. And Thrask would be low risk too of course, but I think, he never really see my Hawkes fight, since they always give Grace over to the circle nowadays (I really don't like Grace as a character, she is a whiny brat)
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Post by boxofscreaming on Nov 19, 2017 18:09:02 GMT
(I really don't like Grace as a character, she is a whiny brat) That's putting it mildly. Oh yeah, go ahead and kidnap my brother. Not like I saved your life or anything.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 19, 2017 19:00:52 GMT
(I really don't like Grace as a character, she is a whiny brat) That's putting it mildly. Oh yeah, go ahead and kidnap my brother. Not like I saved your life or anything. Poor Anders, how disappointed! "Grace, we saved you, what are you doing?"
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Post by Lazarillo on Nov 19, 2017 19:06:42 GMT
That's putting it mildly. Oh yeah, go ahead and kidnap my brother. Not like I saved your life or anything. I always figured that was kind of the point of Grace. "What? Oh, well yes, my boyfriend was an evil/megalomaniac blood mage but I had no idea! Now how about killing some Templars, like the non-evil/megalomaniacal blood mages that we are? *whistles innocently*"
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Post by Catilina on Nov 19, 2017 19:10:21 GMT
I'm still a big rogue fan, because they just rock in every game, but lately, I tend to play mages more often, because I want to have Carver alive for once (I like both siblings, but I had bethany so often alive, that I like Carver around for a change)and I'm a bit sick of the drama queens Merrill and Anders, so I just do the job myself and leave those two at home for a while. I have a staff that looks like a spear (it's from a mod and I really love that staff, because it's a bit more simple with only a crystal at one end and a blade on the other) and when I have fights, where are templars present in act 1 and 2, I simply use the staff as a weapon - apart from Kevan, who probably would keep his mouth shut, otherwise I would simply tell Cullen, he is possessed, and Emeric, who seems to be a cool dude about Hawke using magic. I guess, he is so thankful that someone believes him, that he doesn't care. And Thrask would be low risk too of course, but I think, he never really see my Hawkes fight, since they always give Grace over to the circle nowadays (I really don't like Grace as a character, she is a whiny brat)You too kind. Grace's a vengeful, manipulative mad bitch. I never send her into the Circles, because Hawke at the moment does not know it: in Hawke's eyes, she just a poor apostate (and ofc. she's an eyewitness).
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Post by Catilina on Nov 19, 2017 19:11:57 GMT
That's putting it mildly. Oh yeah, go ahead and kidnap my brother. Not like I saved your life or anything. I always figured that was kind of the point of Grace. "What? Oh, well yes, my boyfriend was an evil/megalomaniac blood mage but I had no idea! Now how about killing some Templars, like the non-evil/megalomaniacal blood mages that we are? *whistles innocently*" This is a war, and the blood magic is a very useful tool, the Chantry also uses. Never understand this "ugh, blood magic!" thing.
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Post by fylimar on Nov 19, 2017 19:16:48 GMT
I'm still a big rogue fan, because they just rock in every game, but lately, I tend to play mages more often, because I want to have Carver alive for once (I like both siblings, but I had bethany so often alive, that I like Carver around for a change)and I'm a bit sick of the drama queens Merrill and Anders, so I just do the job myself and leave those two at home for a while. I have a staff that looks like a spear (it's from a mod and I really love that staff, because it's a bit more simple with only a crystal at one end and a blade on the other) and when I have fights, where are templars present in act 1 and 2, I simply use the staff as a weapon - apart from Kevan, who probably would keep his mouth shut, otherwise I would simply tell Cullen, he is possessed, and Emeric, who seems to be a cool dude about Hawke using magic. I guess, he is so thankful that someone believes him, that he doesn't care. And Thrask would be low risk too of course, but I think, he never really see my Hawkes fight, since they always give Grace over to the circle nowadays (I really don't like Grace as a character, she is a whiny brat)You too kind. Grace's a vengeful, manipulative mad bitch. I never send her into the Circles, because Hawke at the moment does not know it: in Hawke's eyes, she just a poor apostate (and ofc. she's an eyewitness). Nope, you get exactly what she is in the moment, you've met her: read Lazarillos post above, that's exactly what she does: downplaying her boyfriends murderspree and then trying to convince you to kill another person for her - that's the moment I really stopped caring for her apostates ass
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Post by Catilina on Nov 19, 2017 19:21:38 GMT
You too kind. Grace's a vengeful, manipulative mad bitch. I never send her into the Circles, because Hawke at the moment does not know it: in Hawke's eyes, she just a poor apostate (and ofc. she's an eyewitness). Nope, you get exactly what she is in the moment, you've met her: read Lazarillos post above, that's exactly what she does: downplaying her boyfriends murderspree and then trying to convince you to kill another person for her - that's the moment I really stopped caring for her apostates ass She just wants to kill a Templar, easily convinceable, that this is not necessary. She doesn't know Thrask. She just sees an enemy. And she's not alone, this is important.
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Post by fylimar on Nov 19, 2017 19:59:54 GMT
Nope, you get exactly what she is in the moment, you've met her: read Lazarillos post above, that's exactly what she does: downplaying her boyfriends murderspree and then trying to convince you to kill another person for her - that's the moment I really stopped caring for her apostates ass She just wants to kill a Templar, easily convinceable, that this is not necessary. She doesn't know Thrask. She just sees an enemy. And she's not alone, this is important. Sorry, he is not 'just' a templar, he is a human being and she wants to end him. No excuses for Grace on my playthroughs - being a mage and apostate doesn't make her right.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 19, 2017 20:10:15 GMT
She just wants to kill a Templar, easily convinceable, that this is not necessary. She doesn't know Thrask. She just sees an enemy. And she's not alone, this is important. Sorry, he is not 'just' a templar, he is a human being and she wants to end him. No excuses for Grace on my playthroughs - being a mage and apostate doesn't make her right. Ofc, Thrask is a man, and the Templars are people, but this is a war. The Templars want to close the mages, Grace's fears are not unfounded. And Hawke can convince her easily, that this isn't necessary. And as I said: because one hothead, Hawke will not help to imprison the others too. You know, what happened, when Meredith caught them: randomly executed one-two among them... but NOT Grace. So: Kirkwall's Circle is evil. Look: Fenris escaped, and killed many people when ran away. This is absolutely understandable. Of course, Grace's not Fenris, and Grece is evil, but at the moment, Hawke only sees pursued apostate s.
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Post by fylimar on Nov 19, 2017 20:55:20 GMT
Sorry, he is not 'just' a templar, he is a human being and she wants to end him. No excuses for Grace on my playthroughs - being a mage and apostate doesn't make her right. Ofc, Thrask is a man, and the Templars are people, but this is a war. The Templars want to close the mages, Grace's fears are not unfounded. And Hawke can convince her easily, that this isn't necessary. And as I said: because one hothead, Hawke will not help to imprison the others too. You know, what happened, when Meredith caught them: randomly executed one-two among them... but NOT Grace. So: Kirkwall's Circle is evil. Look: Fenris escaped, and killed many people when ran away. This is absolutely understandable. Of course, Grace's not Fenris, and Grece is evil, but at the moment, Hawke only sees pursued apostate s. Sorry, but I don't see just some apostates. They followed a murderer and blood mage and were very eager to kill Thrask. Alain confirms that they all listen to Decimus, when you talk to him and that they stand behind him. If the Kirkwall Circle is evil (and I do agree it is), then this exactly the place for Grace and her bullies to be. I would have helped Alain escape, if he asked for it though. This is about first impressions - we both agree, that Grace is evil, but my first impression of her was obviously different from yours and I did try the 'let the templar live and escape quietly' approach once and I felt dirty with it. And I normally let all the mages go (apart from the mad and dangerous ones - the 'Tramp from Darktown' always gets the murderknife nowadays)
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Post by Phantom on Nov 19, 2017 21:33:00 GMT
my Hawke is a rogue and up to shanigans.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Nov 19, 2017 21:36:28 GMT
I can make allowances for all Grace's behaviour when you first meet her, there are understandable reasons for all of that and as for being a blood mage, well, I think I might have had one in my party.
However, when I clicked on her in Act 2 and she blamed me for the Templars catching her, even though I had Varric lie his arse off to help her escape, then it was clear she was just a horrible person.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 19, 2017 21:45:03 GMT
Ofc, Thrask is a man, and the Templars are people, but this is a war. The Templars want to close the mages, Grace's fears are not unfounded. And Hawke can convince her easily, that this isn't necessary. And as I said: because one hothead, Hawke will not help to imprison the others too. You know, what happened, when Meredith caught them: randomly executed one-two among them... but NOT Grace. So: Kirkwall's Circle is evil. Look: Fenris escaped, and killed many people when ran away. This is absolutely understandable. Of course, Grace's not Fenris, and Grece is evil, but at the moment, Hawke only sees pursued apostates. Sorry, but I don't see just some apostates. They followed a murderer and blood mage and were very eager to kill Thrask. Alain confirms that they all listen to Decimus, when you talk to him and that they stand behind him. If the Kirkwall Circle is evil (and I do agree it is), then this exactly the place for Grace and her bullies to be. I would have helped Alain escape, if he asked for it though. This is about first impressions - we both agree, that Grace is evil, but my first impression of her was obviously different from yours and I did try the 'let the templar live and escape quietly' approach once and I felt dirty with it. And I normally let all the mages go (apart from the mad and dangerous ones - the 'Tramp from Darktown' always gets the murderknife nowadays) Yes, I saw the Starkhaven Apostates in different viewpoint, I don't saw, Grece would be been very eager to kill Thrask, because if Hawke says, that he doesn't want to kill Thrask, but wants to help, she only says, that then Hawke must convince him with strong argues, because she doesn't want to go back to the Circle. I didn't see that evil: it's a natural reaction from escaped and pursued people. They listened to Decimus, but not everyone fought against Hawke. Not only Grace and Alain survived the attack. And Grece didn't try to kill Hawke, nor even try to help Decimus. So: in Hawke's eyes, Grece and many others are innocents. The story verified your suspicion, but not about everyone in the cave. Alain wanted to go back to the Circle, the others not. Not everyone was evil inside. Someone of them just wanted to be free. Used blood magic? Yes, of course. This not means that they were evil.
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Post by fylimar on Nov 21, 2017 6:50:56 GMT
Sorry, but I don't see just some apostates. They followed a murderer and blood mage and were very eager to kill Thrask. Alain confirms that they all listen to Decimus, when you talk to him and that they stand behind him. If the Kirkwall Circle is evil (and I do agree it is), then this exactly the place for Grace and her bullies to be. I would have helped Alain escape, if he asked for it though. This is about first impressions - we both agree, that Grace is evil, but my first impression of her was obviously different from yours and I did try the 'let the templar live and escape quietly' approach once and I felt dirty with it. And I normally let all the mages go (apart from the mad and dangerous ones - the 'Tramp from Darktown' always gets the murderknife nowadays) Yes, I saw the Starkhaven Apostates in different viewpoint, I don't saw, Grece would be been very eager to kill Thrask, because if Hawke says, that he doesn't want to kill Thrask, but wants to help, she only says, that then Hawke must convince him with strong argues, because she doesn't want to go back to the Circle. I didn't see that evil: it's a natural reaction from escaped and pursued people. They listened to Decimus, but not everyone fought against Hawke. Not only Grace and Alain survived the attack. And Grece didn't try to kill Hawke, nor even try to help Decimus. So: in Hawke's eyes, Grece and many others are innocents. The story verified your suspicion, but not about everyone in the cave. Alain wanted to go back to the Circle, the others not. Not everyone was evil inside. Someone of them just wanted to be free. Used blood magic? Yes, of course. This not means that they were evil. Sorry, didn't see, that there was an answer. I think we have to agree to disagree. Those mages are not innocent, Alain confirmed, that everyone still in that cave is backing up Decimus. And he also said, that Decimus was dealing with the ones, not agreeing with him. That makes those mages at least collaborateurs to murder. If course Alain could have lied, but he obviously didn't and I did trust him in the first game. So the mages are innocent in your Hawkes eyes, but not mine. I'm a roleplayer, I tend to be paranoid sometimes :-) And Decimus bloodmagic was very different from Merrill's. She exclusively used it for her project, so the worst that could have happened was, that she bleed to death in her home or get possessed - both her own problems
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Post by Catilina on Nov 21, 2017 9:44:16 GMT
Yes, I saw the Starkhaven Apostates in different viewpoint, I don't saw, Grece would be been very eager to kill Thrask, because if Hawke says, that he doesn't want to kill Thrask, but wants to help, she only says, that then Hawke must convince him with strong argues, because she doesn't want to go back to the Circle. I didn't see that evil: it's a natural reaction from escaped and pursued people. They listened to Decimus, but not everyone fought against Hawke. Not only Grace and Alain survived the attack. And Grece didn't try to kill Hawke, nor even try to help Decimus. So: in Hawke's eyes, Grece and many others are innocents.
The story verified your suspicion, but not about everyone in the cave. Alain wanted to go back to the Circle, the others not. Not everyone was evil inside. Someone of them just wanted to be free. Used blood magic? Yes, of course. This not means that they were evil. Sorry, didn't see, that there was an answer. I think we have to agree to disagree. Those mages are not innocent, Alain confirmed, that everyone still in that cave is backing up Decimus. And he also said, that Decimus was dealing with the ones, not agreeing with him. That makes those mages at least collaborateurs to murder. If course Alain could have lied, but he obviously didn't and I did trust him in the first game. So the mages are innocent in your Hawkes eyes, but not mine. I'm a roleplayer, I tend to be paranoid sometimes :-) And Decimus bloodmagic was very different from Merrill's. She exclusively used it for her project, so the worst that could have happened was, that she bleed to death in her home or get possessed - both her own problems Sorry? Why? Because your viewpoint is different? It's good! I don't think, Alain lied. I suppose he's just a too young, afraid pious Andrastian rebel mage, who's disgusted the blood magic. Decimus violated every Chantry-dogma... Yes, he considers this practice evil. (And rising corpses, of course, seems disgusting. But I suppose between this, and Mortalitasi's practice, the different is: they use blood instead of lyrium.) Decimus' and his followers' blood magic is blood magic, just as Merrill's blood magic... They used the blood magic for defending themselves. Think about Merrill: she uses blood magic not only to repair the Eluvian, but even in the fight too, and this is natural. Decimus was paranoid, but I'm not surprised. Sure he doesn't have any reason? Hawke's not necessarily their friend: he can step into the cave with the intention that s/he will give them to the Templars. Anyway, Hawke killed he attackers. Many mages, just as Grace didn't attack Hawke. Of course, Hawke can hate the blood magic, and can consider the escaped mages dangerous. I still keep my standpoint and let them flee. Think about it: many people consider the Starkhaven apostates evil, because they accepted Decimus' practice of blood magic for defend themselves, but consider Cullen just a poor, damaged man with PTSD what justified the fact that he accepted Meredith's clearly evil methods. What happened in Starkhaven Circle? How many mages got mad in Starkhaven?
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Post by fylimar on Nov 21, 2017 16:07:19 GMT
Sorry, didn't see, that there was an answer. I think we have to agree to disagree. Those mages are not innocent, Alain confirmed, that everyone still in that cave is backing up Decimus. And he also said, that Decimus was dealing with the ones, not agreeing with him. That makes those mages at least collaborateurs to murder. If course Alain could have lied, but he obviously didn't and I did trust him in the first game. So the mages are innocent in your Hawkes eyes, but not mine. I'm a roleplayer, I tend to be paranoid sometimes :-) And Decimus bloodmagic was very different from Merrill's. She exclusively used it for her project, so the worst that could have happened was, that she bleed to death in her home or get possessed - both her own problems Sorry? Why? Because your viewpoint is different? It's good! I don't think, Alain lied. I suppose he's just a too young, afraid pious Andrastian rebel mage, who's disgusted the blood magic. Decimus violated every Chantry-dogma... Yes, he considers this practice evil. (And rising corpses, of course, seems disgusting. But I suppose between this, and Mortalitasi's practice, the different is: they use blood instead of lyrium.) Decimus' and his followers' blood magic is blood magic, just as Merrill's blood magic... They used the blood magic for defending themselves. Think about Merrill: she uses blood magic not only to repair the Eluvian, but even in the fight too, and this is natural. Decimus was paranoid, but I'm not surprised. Sure he doesn't have any reason? Hawke's not necessarily their friend: he can step into the cave with the intention that s/he will give them to the Templars. Anyway, Hawke killed he attackers. Many mages, just as Grace didn't attack Hawke. Of course, Hawke can hate the blood magic, and can consider the escaped mages dangerous. I still keep my standpoint and let them flee. Think about it: many people consider the Starkhaven apostates evil, because they accepted Decimus' practice of blood magic for defend themselves, but consider Cullen just a poor, damaged man with PTSD what justified the fact that he accepted Meredith's clearly evil methods. What happened in Starkhaven Circle? How many mages got mad in Starkhaven? Decimus was batshit crazy, he killed his own people as Alain (whom we both obviously trust) clearly states. Being afraid of something doesn't give him the right to hurt others. And if something happened in Starkhavens circle that justifies batshit crazy, is up to interpretation. And I don't care, if using blood magic is against chantry law or not, it hurts people - at the very least the magic user themselves, but more often others. Decimus clearly huts others, Merrill not (and she does not use blood magic in my group, I don't give her that tree, she hexes in my group and use the lightning tree - both a lot). Merrill can become a danger to herself - and she did, not so much because of the blood magic but because she never really stands up for herself. She always sends Hawke to do her dirty work (ok, we wouldn't have quests otherwise, but still, it's very prominent with Merrill) And I put Cullen pre act 3 in the same category as Grace and Decimus. He is despicable most of the time from mid DAO to late DA2. The only difference between him and Grace is, that he sees his wrongdoings and acts accordingly - late, but still. I didn't expect to like Cullen in DAI tbh, but he really has changed. So yes, I agree, if you are against Decimus and his methods, you should question Cullen just as much - I do both Sorry, have to cut this short, because I'm ill and not really up to writing much today.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 21, 2017 16:51:15 GMT
Sorry? Why? Because your viewpoint is different? It's good! I don't think, Alain lied. I suppose he's just a too young, afraid pious Andrastian rebel mage, who's disgusted the blood magic. Decimus violated every Chantry-dogma... Yes, he considers this practice evil. (And rising corpses, of course, seems disgusting. But I suppose between this, and Mortalitasi's practice, the different is: they use blood instead of lyrium.)
Decimus' and his followers' blood magic is blood magic, just as Merrill's blood magic... They used the blood magic for defending themselves. Think about Merrill: she uses blood magic not only to repair the Eluvian, but even in the fight too, and this is natural. Decimus was paranoid, but I'm not surprised. Sure he doesn't have any reason? Hawke's not necessarily their friend: he can step into the cave with the intention that s/he will give them to the Templars. Anyway, Hawke killed he attackers. Many mages, just as Grace didn't attack Hawke. Of course, Hawke can hate the blood magic, and can consider the escaped mages dangerous. I still keep my standpoint and let them flee.
Think about it: many people consider the Starkhaven apostates evil, because they accepted Decimus' practice of blood magic for defend themselves, but consider Cullen just a poor, damaged man with PTSD what justified the fact that he accepted Meredith's clearly evil methods. What happened in Starkhaven Circle? How many mages got mad in Starkhaven? Decimus was batshit crazy, he killed his own people as Alain (whom we both obviously trust) clearly states. Being afraid of something doesn't give him the right to hurt others. And if something happened in Starkhavens circle that justifies batshit crazy, is up to interpretation. And I don't care, if using blood magic is against chantry law or not, it hurts people - at the very least the magic user themselves, but more often others. Decimus clearly huts others, Merrill not (and she does not use blood magic in my group, I don't give her that tree, she hexes in my group and use the lightning tree - both a lot). Merrill can become a danger to herself - and she did, not so much because of the blood magic but because she never really stands up for herself. She always sends Hawke to do her dirty work (ok, we wouldn't have quests otherwise, but still, it's very prominent with Merrill) And I put Cullen pre act 3 in the same category as Grace and Decimus. He is despicable most of the time from mid DAO to late DA2. The only difference between him and Grace is, that he sees his wrongdoings and acts accordingly - late, but still. I didn't expect to like Cullen in DAI tbh, but he really has changed. So yes, I agree, if you are against Decimus and his methods, you should question Cullen just as much - I do both Sorry, have to cut this short, because I'm ill and not really up to writing much today. Decimus is mad, yes. And dangerous, and already dead, just as his followers, who fought on his side. But the others, who didn't attack Hawke? I spoke only about them. I don't feel evil decision let them be free (spare their life). The Starkhaven apostates not only Decimus and Grace. For example her Terrie: "Terrie is one of the mages who escapes and evades capture. She later contacts Hawke through Mistress Selby, thanking Hawke for her freedom and offering other opportunities to aid mages.Alternatively if Hawke turns the mages over to the Circle, Terrie is not heard from again and presumably joins the Kirkwall Circle, is made tranquil or is among the mages executed by Meredith."You agree: Cullen's not evil, just because Meredith is... even if he was misled for a while (for a long time...) This even can apply to the Starkhaven apostates, this is why I mentioned Cullen. Cullen is lucky, he got a new chance to redeem himself.
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