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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 25, 2017 20:46:25 GMT
I would save: Cullen Inquisitor Dagna Josephine Denerim Antiva Really? Dagna over Harding? Yeah. I never really liked Harding. I don't hate her or anything like that, I just felt meh about her while I liked Dagna.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Jul 25, 2017 21:03:02 GMT
Guess you're screwed then. Sorry about that.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Jul 25, 2017 21:05:50 GMT
I would save: Cullen Inquisitor Dagna Josephine Denerim Antiva Really? Dagna over Harding? Dagna got Sera to actually approve of scientific research involving magic. Harding's a good scout, but Dagna's a miracle worker.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 25, 2017 21:06:10 GMT
Guess you're screwed then. Sorry about that. Yeah. Thanks.
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Post by shechinah on Jul 25, 2017 21:39:29 GMT
I'd prefer that the next protagonist is similar to the Warden or the Inquisitor. Ideally, I'd like a blend of the two as I think the two could compliment each other. This is because I'd like the protagonist to have a slave origin and I think having the option to flesh out their past through dialogue options could work well with that. I liked that Inquisition provided you the options to define your life beforehand. I do think more of these options are needed as I thought there wasn't quite enough of them in Inquisition.
Without a doubt, I want race selection to be a feature in the next game. This is especially given what the game potentially deals with.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Jul 25, 2017 22:18:00 GMT
Having ALOT more racial dialogue options would be great.
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Post by shechinah on Jul 25, 2017 22:23:41 GMT
Having ALOT more racial dialogue options would be great. Also race-prompted reactions would be something I'd be expecting with race selection since we're going to the Tevinter Imperium which has a race dynamic. I'm not expecting it to be constant but it should be there.
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Post by BioFan on Jul 26, 2017 14:40:51 GMT
Having ALOT more racial dialogue options would be great. I agree. The dalish elf seemed kinda... uninformed. On dalish things. Very.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Jul 26, 2017 16:30:45 GMT
Having ALOT more racial dialogue options would be great. I agree. The dalish elf seemed kinda... uninformed. On dalish things. Very. Lavellan: What's the Temple of Mythal? Sera: Pffft. Even I could make a wild guess about that, Inky. Morrrigan: (A bunch of unnecessary humanplaining) Solas: (Facepalming)
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Post by BioFan on Jul 26, 2017 17:24:54 GMT
I agree. The dalish elf seemed kinda... uninformed. On dalish things. Very. Lavellan: What's the Temple of Mythal? Sera: Pffft. Even I could make a wild guess about that, Inky. Morrrigan: (A bunch of unnecessary humanplaining) Solas: (Facepalming) ^this. 100%
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 26, 2017 20:39:26 GMT
Or what about when Morrigan is pontificating about the sacrilege of putting Fen'Harel OUTSIDE the gate to the inner sanctum of Mythal's temple? What Lavellan should have been able to say was:
Lavellan: "No Morrigan, you will see that he is placed facing outwards to ward off evil spirits, just like we Dalish do with statues of Fen'Harel in our camps, because you see no one dares messing with the Dread Wolf."
Solas: "I can't argue with that."
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Post by tacsear on Jul 26, 2017 20:42:52 GMT
I agree. The dalish elf seemed kinda... uninformed. On dalish things. Very. Lavellan: What's the Temple of Mythal? Sera: Pffft. Even I could make a wild guess about that, Inky. Morrrigan: (A bunch of unnecessary humanplaining) Solas: (Facepalming) It shouldn't be spesific to elfquisitor either. Like anyone with a little brain can guess what is it.
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Post by leadintea on Jul 26, 2017 22:15:32 GMT
I just want the opportunity to be racist to elves and Qunari as a human or dwarf, and vice versa for NPCs when playing as an elf or Qunari. I hope they don't make it as saccharine as DAI felt and really come up with some scathing insults for both players and NPCs. Some comebacks as an elf and Qunari would be great as well especially if there are repercussions or rewards for doing it.
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Post by House Targaryen on Jul 27, 2017 5:20:19 GMT
Can't have a new protag, Inky and friends have some unfinished business with Solas.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 27, 2017 10:07:16 GMT
Can't have a new protag, Inky and friends have some unfinished business with Solas. Hawke also had unfinished business, and we got the Inquisitor instead. I hope we'll get a new protagonist, and Inquisitor only gets a cameo or a little part of the game. Just as Hawke, no more. And possibly a normal end with Solas and Dorian. (I was angry due Dorian romance's end. But just for that, I would not play with Inquisitor again. I wouldn't hate this version, but prefer not.)
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Post by wright1978 on Jul 27, 2017 12:00:49 GMT
Can't have a new protag, Inky and friends have some unfinished business with Solas. Hawke also had unfinished business, and we got the Inquisitor instead. I hope we'll get a new protagonist, and Inquisitor only gets a cameo or a little part of the game. Just as Hawke, no more. And possibly a normal end with Solas and Dorian. (I was angry due Dorian romance's end. But just for that, I would not play with Inquisitor again. I wouldn't hate this version, but prefer not.) Yeah i loved hawke & got inquisitor who i ended up disliking. So definitely hoping for new protagonist. Having the inquisitor devoured by a demon would be a bonus.
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Post by Wildfire on Jul 27, 2017 12:11:37 GMT
Yeah i loved hawke & got inquisitor who i ended up disliking. So definitely hoping for new protagonist. Having the inquisitor devoured by a demon would be a bonus. Now how about this: Inquisitor and Solas kill each other before DA4 even begins, saving us the trouble. This way, we can focus on something more interesting in DA4.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 27, 2017 12:19:55 GMT
Hey, stop killing my Inquisitors in various cruel ways!
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 27, 2017 13:29:55 GMT
Just look at the original trailer, voiced by Morrigan, back in 2013 and you get a feel for how the story altered somewhat by the time it actually came out. Also remember certain aspects of game play and customisation that were showcased and then cut after the initial demonstration in the same year. I'd not previously seen the bit about how at Adamant they originally had us dropping into the Deep Roads, not the Fade. That would explain why certain aspects of this seemed not consistent with previous lore and there was the question left in my mind as to how everyone was able to remain in the Fade, when both Corypheus and Solas seemed to think the Anchor was necessary to keep them there let alone anyone else. Also the bit about us originally meant to be encountering the Architect, which would have been interesting. I'd still like to know what became of him since it is obvious that "killing" him would not have been that easy even if that is what you chose to do.
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Post by brandoftime on Jul 27, 2017 14:07:50 GMT
I'm hoping that the thing about Inquisition only being half the overall story arc means that we will play as the Inquisitor for the rest of it . . . or at least dual protagonist.
Also, Architect . . . . I wonder if he's stirring things up in Tevinter, his homeland like Cory, over a thousand years ago? They were magisters, hm? we will see this guy again, I bet.
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Post by naughtynomad on Jul 28, 2017 0:34:53 GMT
I'm hoping that the thing about Inquisition only being half the overall story arc means that we will play as the Inquisitor for the rest of it . . . or at least dual protagonist. Also, Architect . . . . I wonder if he's stirring things up in Tevinter, his homeland like Cory, over a thousand years ago? They were magisters, hm? we will see this guy again, I bet. I'm definitely opposed to playing as the Inquisitor again. Their story is over. They sealed the breach and stopped Corepheus. They saved the world. One thing that I always hated about Mass Effect was that you play as the same Shepherd across all three games but get new companions. It didnt make much sense for romances and things. Especially since the originals came back in ME3 and are pissed if you "cheated" on them. Let a new protangonist rise up. Give us new companions. And let the old protagonists appear as cameos. And give us some updated history on them. Did the Warden cure his taint? What happened to Hawke at Weisshupt (very possible these two stories overlap) maybe even the Inquisitor went there for his "north" expedition.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 3:03:25 GMT
i'll put my comment here to be aviable to see updates and introduce myself in the conversation.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 28, 2017 7:50:02 GMT
I'm hoping that the thing about Inquisition only being half the overall story arc means that we will play as the Inquisitor for the rest of it . . . or at least dual protagonist. Also, Architect . . . . I wonder if he's stirring things up in Tevinter, his homeland like Cory, over a thousand years ago? They were magisters, hm? we will see this guy again, I bet. I'm definitely opposed to playing as the Inquisitor again. Their story is over. They sealed the breach and stopped Corepheus. They saved the world. One thing that I always hated about Mass Effect was that you play as the same Shepherd across all three games but get new companions. It didnt make much sense for romances and things. Especially since the originals came back in ME3 and are pissed if you "cheated" on them. Let a new protangonist rise up. Give us new companions. And let the old protagonists appear as cameos. And give us some updated history on them. Did the Warden cure his taint? What happened to Hawke at Weisshupt (very possible these two stories overlap) maybe even the Inquisitor went there for his "north" expedition. Inquisitor's story not really over: Solas' his/her business yes, but I don't want the Inquisitor back as the main protagonist. Advisor/cameo something similar. Or a letter (as Warden's): Hawke's story finished in Kirkwall. S/He returned from Weisshaupt to Varric and help him to rule the city (officially – but I'm not sure about Anders romanced Hawke...). We can see in Trespasser epilog. (I liked Shepard's story, the romance lines were interesting with this breaks. [And Alenko-MShep... would be better from the beginning, but finally...] I'm curious, what they plan with Andromeda, but I liked the original trilogy better.)
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 28, 2017 9:23:12 GMT
I liked what they did with Shepard and playing them over three games. The romance part worked well for me as at least it made sense why you might move on (because you never swore undying love in the first game and then things happened). So if you remained loyal to your original LI through the second game you got a different response from them than if you didn't and even that varied according to the person being romanced (Kaidan seemed way more understanding than Ashley was). You don't have to romance someone new every game, particularly if you are playing the same person and you know your original LI is still out there but it allowed for different attitudes and role playing on the part of the player.
The main aspect about having just Shepard the whole way through though was the fact that they had originally brought the Reaper threat to light and was the one person who knew something needed to be done about it from personal experience. The same applied to your loyal companions. A new protagonist would just not that degree of knowledge or sense of urgency, particularly since the ruling Council had a tendency to put their heads in the sand and hope it would all go away. Obviously by the 3rd game the danger is very obvious, which is why if you killed off your Shepard in the 2nd game I assume you could approach it from the perspective of someone new (never did this myself so only assuming here).
Now in terms of continuing protagonist in the DA universe, whilst people keep wanting the HoF to return, even if they lived essentially their story was done in that the threat they were asked to deal with (the 5th Blight and the Archdemon) had been resolved by the end of the game. A second threat emerged in Awakening which was connected to the first but it was not essential to be the HoF to deal with it (which is why you could continue with a completely new Warden if they were dead). However, the writers didn't explain adequately why, if the HoF was still alive, they were not involved with the Warden plot in DAI. In that case they would have been in charge of the Warden experiment at Vigil's Keep, made adequate provision for a decent second in command in their absence (so negating any need for Clarel to write to Teagan asking to be let in) and seeing as it turned out various people did know how to contact them, would surely have taken a personal interest in the chaos that seemed to have afflicted the Wardens in both Ferelden and Orlais. (Personally I think that Hawke's Warden contact was originally meant to have been the HoF if still alive, or the substitute Orlesian Warden if dead, as that would have made more sense story wise, but that the writers decided against it).
With DA2 we had Anders (and Hawke by association if nothing else) being responsible for the collapse of the Circles and the mage/Templar conflict. At the end of the game they even had a connection being made by Leliana between the disappearance of Hawke and the disappearance of the Warden (which would have been the case had the Warden returned as the contact in DAI) but then for some reason it was decided to play down Hawke's involvement with the mage plot and make the events of Asunder (and Fiona) the true cause of the breakdown in relations between the two. So the personal connection with the on-going plot by Hawke was with regard to the discovery red lyrium and the release of Corypheus. Fair enough because they were personally connected with both these events but it did rather overlook their stated involvement with the destruction of the Circles. At least they did make a cameo appearance, even if many people seemed unhappy how this was dealt with (the explanation for the absence of the LI wasn't convincing for me).
So whilst it would be in keeping with previous DA games to have a new PC, it would be odd if the Inquisitor was not involved in at least a similar fashion to Hawke. They have a personal reason for wanting to deal with Solas that is pretty similar to the scenario with Shepard and the Reapers. The Inquisitor dealt with the threat of Corypheus only to discover down the line that the danger to the world was anything but over and the person who had really been responsible for the original problem was still out there at large (even though the epilogue hints that not everyone outside their inner circle believes their story, which was after all witnessed by no one else). Plus that person was known to them personally. So the idea that the Inquisitor (ex-Inquisitor) would not take it upon themselves to do something about it and get actively involved personally with the quest against Solas doesn't make sense. In any case the epilogue to the epilogue in Trespasser suggests that they will be involved but they will be recruiting new agents that Solas doesn't know to work on their behalf. Which is where the new PC is likely to come in. So the Inquisitor will be directing things from behind the scenes (probably a bit like TIM in ME2) and the new PC will be doing the donkey work on the ground.
Interestingly enough, when it comes to the final confrontation with Solas, it may be that will be handled to a similar way to the end of ME2, with the Inquisitor saying what they want done (based off your choices in the Keep) but with the new PC left to decide whether or not they want to comply with this instruction.
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