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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 22:53:39 GMT
Hello,
I have a question more targeted at those who played all DAO, DA2 and Inquisition.
The game Lore and History are important to me and I'm the type of player who enjoys picking up on minor allusions and connections. So, I wanted to ask just how important story wise is DA2 when it comes to linking it to Inquisition. I played both Origins and Awakening, so I wouldn't go into Inquisition completely without the knowledge of the previous events, but just how big a hole would I blow in the story line if I skip DA2?
I played Origins and Awakening and liked them so much that I bought Inquisition. However, DA2 reviews have raised a lot of personal preferences red flags and youtube videos didn't help much because its visual aspect reminds me strongly of Warrior Within. I had a bad experience when I really enjoyed playing Sands of Time and then bought a sequel Warrior Within which I simply loathed and regretted wasting money on it. So, I'm cautious now of getting into a similar situation, but if DA2 story is very good and if it's crucial narrative wise then I might buy DA2 anyway. I'm uncertain as it has this appearance edging close to an aggressive/violent world build that I don't favour, but my curiosity is peaked from the small general narrative timbits I picked up. For example the Qunari stuff sounds important and Anders was my favourite recruit in Awakening, which makes me rather interested in the details of how he went bad.
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Post by tacsear on Aug 5, 2017 22:58:35 GMT
If Anders is your fav in DAA you're gonna be really disappointed in him. As for the game itself: it is good and it sets the stage for DAI so it's rather important. It is a kind of game you hate the first time you play it but it grows on you in time and end up really liking it (at least it is for me). It also introduces the best character in the franchise: Varric Tethras he alone is worth the price.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 23:33:27 GMT
Ahh thank you. So, if I don't play DA2 I'm going to get into those goof situations in Inquisition where someone will begin talking about something and I'll be the only oddball in the room who doesn't know what's going on.
That's the reason why Sten didn't respect my Warden in Origins during my first play through. Since I have to get to the bottom of all the words I hear for the first time, I've asked him what's a Qunari. He sort of expected a Warden to know about other races. I could just read his thoughts as he got out of that cage, 'This is the noob I'm suppose to follow around? Tarnation me...'
As for violent... I don't mean the idea for a quest or philosophy to kill something. It's more linked to the visual aspect when the game has a darker feel to it. I'm struggling to define this inner line for me with words.
I liked DAO combat. I'm not a fan of modern overfly flashy combat. But, once again the story is the priority and I might overlook combat unless it starts forcing me to load a lot because I die or making me feel that I'm doing too little story and too much fighting. Obviously, you can't do any heroic stuff if you aren't fighting, so it's not that I dismiss combat, but yes good reasons for doing the fighting in the first place are a must.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 5, 2017 23:47:41 GMT
Hello, I have a question more targeted at those who played all DAO, DA2 and Inquisition. The game Lore and History are important to me and I'm the type of player who enjoys picking up on minor allusions and connections. So, I wanted to ask just how important story wise is DA2 when it comes to linking it to Inquisition. I played both Origins and Awakening, so I wouldn't go into Inquisition completely without the knowledge of the previous events, but just how big a hole would I blow in the story line if I skip DA2? I played Origins and Awakening and liked them so much that I bought Inquisition. However, DA2 reviews have raised a lot of personal preferences red flags and youtube videos didn't help much because its visual aspect reminds me strongly of Warrior Within. I had a bad experience when I really enjoyed playing Sands of Time and then bought a sequel Warrior Within which I simply loathed and regretted wasting money on it. So, I'm cautious now of getting into a similar situation, but if DA2 story is very good and if it's crucial narrative wise then I might buy DA2 anyway. I'm uncertain as it has this appearance edging close to an aggressive/violent world build that I don't favour, but my curiosity is peaked from the small general narrative timbits I picked up. For example the Qunari stuff sounds important and Anders was my favourite recruit in Awakening, which makes me rather interested in the details of how he went bad. I can agree with tacsear , one little difference: If your fav character was Anders in the DAA, perhaps you'll be disappointed but not sure. It always depends on the viewpoint. My fav group was Anders, Justice, and Nathaniel., but I wasn't disappointed. True, perhaps I belong to the minority. And if you still love Anders' character, you can love because he's a well written tragical hero/love, and you can agree with him, and ride to the sunshine with him. You can interpret him as a man who took a serious mistake, got into a downward spiral, and finally lost himself. But you can interpret him as someone who follows his principles and tried to change the world and succeed. You can interpret Justice as Vengeance demon who spoiled Anders, or who corrupted by Anders anger and/or the mortal world's unjust and complexity. And you can interpret him as Spirit of Justice who almost twisted his purpose, but finally kept himself. That's why he's the best character and best romance but I'm biased. About the story: I love that! This is not a world savior hero's story. Hawke only the local hero. The hero whom Kirkwall deserves. This is the Tale of the Champion. Varric's story. Hawke has family, his companions are friends/rivals for seven years. Kirkwall is the Hellmouth. In the old times, Tevinter mages weakened the veil, and the wardens imprisoned Corypheus here. Pretty place to be crazy. Enjoy the madness! The combat system is fun. The friendship/rivalry system's perhaps weird, but fun. Must have DLC's: The Exiled Prince (adds information to the main story, and a companion), The Legacy (Corypheus and Hawke's story) The Mark of the Assassin's is a fun dlc, and adds information to the qun and Orlais, and a qunari elf companion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 0:09:58 GMT
I take it Exiled Prince is an expansion pack of DA2? Like the Witch Hunt in Origins? Poor Anders. It sounds like he went Mr Wiggums way. DA2 owes me a darn good explanation how it happened, considering that when you take him to Wynn in Amaranthene he speaks out rather strongly against that extremist faction she mentions. The story premise does sound good. I always highly approved of anything where you start in the dirt and must work your way up. Then you feel good about all the accomplishments. That's why I liked Origins as a hobo more than Awakening where your character already had everything.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 6, 2017 0:25:40 GMT
I take it Exiled Prince is an expansion pack of DA2? Like the Witch Hunt in Origins? Poor Anders. It sounds like he went Mr Wiggums way. DA2 owes me a darn good explanation how it happened, considering that when you take him to Wynn in Amaranthene he speaks out rather strongly against that extremist faction she mentions. The story premise does sound good. I always highly approved of anything where you start in the dirt and must work your way up. Than you feel good about all the accomplishments. That's why I liked Origins as a hobo more than Awakening where your character already had everything. Yes, both, you can buy here, for feckin' Bioware points. You can buy Bioware points on the Origin.Oh, and I almost forget the Black Emporium. Not really Mr. Wiggums, fortunately... but yes, he's definable as an abomination, just as Wynne. If you already played the Inquisition, you know, that the Spirits can be twisted, and lose their purpose. Hawke starts as a Fereldan refugee with his/her mother and siblings. S/He's absolutely nobody... and grows to be a noble, Kirkwall's most important person... almost.
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Post by dragontartare on Aug 6, 2017 0:36:51 GMT
I take it Exiled Prince is an expansion pack of DA2? Like the Witch Hunt in Origins? Poor Anders. It sounds like he went Mr Wiggums way. DA2 owes me a darn good explanation how it happened, considering that when you take him to Wynn in Amaranthene he speaks out rather strongly against that extremist faction she mentions. The story premise does sound good. I always highly approved of anything where you start in the dirt and must work your way up. Than you feel good about all the accomplishments. That's why I liked Origins as a hobo more than Awakening where your character already had everything. Exiled Prince gives you an extra companion. There is a reference to this character in DAI if you have him in your imported worldstate, but I wouldn't say he's essential. Legacy DLC is absolutely essential, however, as it sets up DAI's villain. DA2 in general sets up the worldstate that you are presented with in DAI, bridges the time gap between DAO and DAI, and introduces you to some of DAI's characters, so you'd either have to play DA2 or read a bunch of wiki entries to figure out what happened and who all of these people are. The game is fun (despite its downsides), so why not play it rather than read dry descriptions of the events? In my opinion, some of the best companions and most interesting antagonists of the series are in DA2. Plus, I think Kirkwall feels like a living city, more so than Denerim in DAO, and certainly more so than Val Royeaux in DAI.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 3:27:04 GMT
I haven't played Inquisition yet, even if I have it installed, because I'm waiting to sort out first whether I'll get DA2 or not. It's certainly a compelling argument that experiencing it is more fun than reading about it, even though wiki is free and doesn't take up disk space.
Wow! I have a heavy preference for Justice, Nath and Anders too in my group, but my first game went with a tank Warden, meaning no Justice. But, I've always picked Anders as my mage over the elf lady. She has a nasty personality and isn't even much of a healer.
Thank you for the heads up about the companions. That's a big deal. I'm always interested in recruiting everyone that moves. As for personalities, I've always found Morrigan to be a complex and very well written character, but I never liked her. I would say that almost all Warden companions have a controversial past, a fact I greatly appreciate about Dragon Age.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Aug 6, 2017 8:17:54 GMT
DA2 does a lot to set up Inquisition. There are a lot of characters and plot threads that start in this game and go on to be important in the next one. I can't promise you'll love the game, but personally, it's my favourite entry in the series.
As a note, you do need the Legacy DLC. It's annoying to have to shell out for DLCs separately, but I wouldn't skip that one. Mark of the Assassin is less essential but still good, whereas the Exiled Prince is maybe one for those who feel compelled to have all the content.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 6, 2017 11:30:45 GMT
I haven't played Inquisition yet, even if I have it installed, because I'm waiting to sort out first whether I'll get DA2 or not. It's certainly a compelling argument that experiencing it is more fun than reading about it, even though wiki is free and doesn't take up disk space. Wow! I have a heavy preference for Justice, Nath and Anders too in my group, but my first game went with a tank Warden, meaning no Justice. But, I've always picked Anders as my mage over the elf lady. She has a nasty personality and isn't even much of a healer. Thank you for the heads up about the companions. That's a big deal. I'm always interested in recruiting everyone that moves. As for personalities, I've always found Morrigan to be a complex and very well written character, but I never liked her. I would say that almost all Warden companions have a controversial past, a fact I greatly appreciate about Dragon Age. Oops! then sorry for the spoilers. I supposed, you already played with the Inquisition. (I always liked Morrigan. Her romance and friendship too. She has a nice arc. She will return in DAI too.)
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Post by Wildfire on Aug 6, 2017 13:49:53 GMT
You shouldn't miss DA2 because it's hands down the best DA game.
Best protagonist, best story, best characters, best environment. The only DA title which has endured the test of time for me.
And yeah, DA2 also helps to make sense of the events in DAI.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 14:00:39 GMT
No problem. It's tricky to respond to an inquiry effectively when that person doesn't know anything and you know everything.
Oh don't get me wrong, the best part about Origins is that I approved of ALL companions and Morrigan had plenty of lines that made me snicker. I'm under impression she had received the most attention during her creation, except for maybe Alistair. Not to mention, I prefer using her over Wynne due to that nifty mass mind control spell. I'm always super excited when any of these companions make appearance down the line. I also found Morrigan's preferences in men rather conflicting.
I certainly wouldn't mind romancing Anders too on a different character, even though he nearly had his insolent ears cut off in the Awakening for assuming too much. What can I say about playing a script meant for an Orlesian Warden on a Cousland married to King Alistair? I posted this a in the goof up section too how I had a lulz moment in Amaranthine when Anders meets that woman who starts his personal quest. There is an option to ask 'Your friend?' I clicked it thinking sarcasm since she looked like a shady drug dealer rather than a friend and he suddenly responds along the lines of 'getting jealous are you?' My Cousland was like Whut?? Do you know who my husband is? I DEMAND 'punt him over the fence' dialogue option!
I am puzzled though. I've been able to purchase an ultimate pack that included both Origins and Awakening with all the sequels. I don't see such an option for DA2. It seems horribly inconvenient, and pricy, hunting down each expansion separately. Isn't there a compiled option? :/ I'm totally a techical tart and like having everything put together for me in one spot.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 6, 2017 14:07:06 GMT
No problem. It's tricky to respond to an inquiry effectively when that person doesn't know anything and you know everything. Oh don't get me wrong, the best part about Origins is that I approved of ALL companions and Morrigan had plenty of lines that made me snicker. I'm under impression she had received the most attention during her creation, except for maybe Alistair. Not to mention, I prefer using her over Wynne due to that nifty mass mind control spell. I'm always super excited when any of these companions make appearance down the line. I also found Morrigan's preferences in men rather conflicting. I certainly wouldn't mind romancing Anders too on a different character, even though he nearly had his insolent ears cut off in the Awakening for assuming too much. What can I say about playing a script meant for an Orlesian Warden on a Cousland married to King Alistair? I posted this a in the goof up section too how I had a lulz moment in Amaranthine when Anders meets that woman who starts his personal quest. There is an option to ask 'Your friend?' I clicked it thinking sarcasm since she looked like a shady drug dealer rather than a friend and he suddenly responds along the lines of 'getting jealous are you?' My Cousland was like Whut?? Do you know who my husband is? I DEMAND 'punt him over the fence' dialogue option! I am puzzled though. I've been able to purchase an ultimate pack that included both Origins and Awakening with all the sequels. I don't see such an option for DA2. It seems horribly inconvenient, and pricy, hunting down each expansion separately. Isn't there a compiled option? :/ I'm totally a techical tart and like having everything put together for me in one spot. Sadly only those method exists (at least I don't know about any alternate), what I wrote. On that website, you can find every DLC, and pay with Bioware points from the Origins. This is not that difficult only really annoying.
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Post by fylimar on Aug 6, 2017 18:31:24 GMT
No problem. It's tricky to respond to an inquiry effectively when that person doesn't know anything and you know everything. Oh don't get me wrong, the best part about Origins is that I approved of ALL companions and Morrigan had plenty of lines that made me snicker. I'm under impression she had received the most attention during her creation, except for maybe Alistair. Not to mention, I prefer using her over Wynne due to that nifty mass mind control spell. I'm always super excited when any of these companions make appearance down the line. I also found Morrigan's preferences in men rather conflicting. I certainly wouldn't mind romancing Anders too on a different character, even though he nearly had his insolent ears cut off in the Awakening for assuming too much. What can I say about playing a script meant for an Orlesian Warden on a Cousland married to King Alistair? I posted this a in the goof up section too how I had a lulz moment in Amaranthine when Anders meets that woman who starts his personal quest. There is an option to ask 'Your friend?' I clicked it thinking sarcasm since she looked like a shady drug dealer rather than a friend and he suddenly responds along the lines of 'getting jealous are you?' My Cousland was like Whut?? Do you know who my husband is? I DEMAND 'punt him over the fence' dialogue option! I am puzzled though. I've been able to purchase an ultimate pack that included both Origins and Awakening with all the sequels. I don't see such an option for DA2. It seems horribly inconvenient, and pricy, hunting down each expansion separately. Isn't there a compiled option? :/ I'm totally a techical tart and like having everything put together for me in one spot. Sadly, there doesn't seem to be an ultimate edition of DA2, but I agree with the others, that DA2 is worth playing. It had a lot of cheek in tongue dialogue, some really cool companions (Varric became my alltime favorite) and it is an important part of the storyarch. It begins with a situation from DAO and has a lot of build up for DAI. Hawke is a very interesting protagonist and you meet great NPCs on the road. The story has a totally different feeling from DAO, but after playing it for a while, I actually preferred it over DAO (love all three games). I liked Anders in DAA too, but I still like him in DA2. He will be...different and there will be drama and maybe even some shock moments, but he is a well written character, as nearly all companions. You remember Isabella from the Pearl? She will be a companion too and she brings a fresh wind of classical roguerie and pirate adventure for example. Merrill from the Dalish elf storyline is an old aquaintance too, the rest of the companions are new. From the DLCs I like Legacy and Mark of the Assassin. The first one is essential for DAI, the second one is just fun to play and you have an elven companion, that is a Qun convert, which gives a unique perspective on the Qun. I'm not a big fan of Exiled Prince, but that's because, I don't like Sebastian, it is totally subjective, many people love EP - it has a very nice quest in a haunted house in act 2. I just would suggest the other two DLCs more for story and lore purpose.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 6, 2017 18:59:16 GMT
No problem. It's tricky to respond to an inquiry effectively when that person doesn't know anything and you know everything. Oh don't get me wrong, the best part about Origins is that I approved of ALL companions and Morrigan had plenty of lines that made me snicker. I'm under impression she had received the most attention during her creation, except for maybe Alistair. Not to mention, I prefer using her over Wynne due to that nifty mass mind control spell. I'm always super excited when any of these companions make appearance down the line. I also found Morrigan's preferences in men rather conflicting. I certainly wouldn't mind romancing Anders too on a different character, even though he nearly had his insolent ears cut off in the Awakening for assuming too much. What can I say about playing a script meant for an Orlesian Warden on a Cousland married to King Alistair? I posted this a in the goof up section too how I had a lulz moment in Amaranthine when Anders meets that woman who starts his personal quest. There is an option to ask 'Your friend?' I clicked it thinking sarcasm since she looked like a shady drug dealer rather than a friend and he suddenly responds along the lines of 'getting jealous are you?' My Cousland was like Whut?? Do you know who my husband is? I DEMAND 'punt him over the fence' dialogue option! I am puzzled though. I've been able to purchase an ultimate pack that included both Origins and Awakening with all the sequels. I don't see such an option for DA2. It seems horribly inconvenient, and pricy, hunting down each expansion separately. Isn't there a compiled option? :/ I'm totally a techical tart and like having everything put together for me in one spot. Sadly, there doesn't seem to be an ultimate edition of DA2, but I agree with the others, that DA2 is worth playing. It had a lot of cheek in tongue dialogue, some really cool companions (Varric became my alltime favorite) and it is an important part of the storyarch. It begins with a situation from DAO and has a lot of build up for DAI. Hawke is a very interesting protagonist and you meet great NPCs on the road. The story has a totally different feeling from DAO, but after playing it for a while, I actually preferred it over DAO (love all three games). I liked Anders in DAA too, but I still like him in DA2. He will be...different and there will be drama and maybe even some shock moments, but he is a well written character, as nearly all companions. You remember Isabella from the Pearl? She will be a companion too and she brings a fresh wind of classical roguerie and pirate adventure for example. Merrill from the Dalish elf storyline is an old aquaintance too, the rest of the companions are new. From the DLCs I like Legacy and Mark of the Assassin. The first one is essential for DAI, the second one is just fun to play and you have an elven companion, that is a Qun convert, which gives a unique perspective on the Qun. I'm not a big fan of Exiled Prince, but that's because, I don't like Sebastian, it is totally subjective, many people love EP - it has a very nice quest in a haunted house in act 2. I just would suggest the other two DLCs more for story and lore purpose. You know my opinion about Sebastian, but he's undoubtedly interesting and underrated. And the expansion is important in many aspects. Yes, his quest in Act2 is fun in the haunted house and show Sebastian's nature, but the really interesting is his quest in the Act3, because of Kirkwall's Chantry viewpoint and Elthina personally (and the cameo). And this war table quest in Inquisition. So, no matter, Sebastian good or not, the DLC's important (in fact must have to me). I think, this is a shame, that the Exiled Prince's a DLC... It was done with the game, and if I remember correctly, was the preorder bonus.
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Post by fylimar on Aug 6, 2017 19:06:06 GMT
Sadly, there doesn't seem to be an ultimate edition of DA2, but I agree with the others, that DA2 is worth playing. It had a lot of cheek in tongue dialogue, some really cool companions (Varric became my alltime favorite) and it is an important part of the storyarch. It begins with a situation from DAO and has a lot of build up for DAI. Hawke is a very interesting protagonist and you meet great NPCs on the road. The story has a totally different feeling from DAO, but after playing it for a while, I actually preferred it over DAO (love all three games). I liked Anders in DAA too, but I still like him in DA2. He will be...different and there will be drama and maybe even some shock moments, but he is a well written character, as nearly all companions. You remember Isabella from the Pearl? She will be a companion too and she brings a fresh wind of classical roguerie and pirate adventure for example. Merrill from the Dalish elf storyline is an old aquaintance too, the rest of the companions are new. From the DLCs I like Legacy and Mark of the Assassin. The first one is essential for DAI, the second one is just fun to play and you have an elven companion, that is a Qun convert, which gives a unique perspective on the Qun. I'm not a big fan of Exiled Prince, but that's because, I don't like Sebastian, it is totally subjective, many people love EP - it has a very nice quest in a haunted house in act 2. I just would suggest the other two DLCs more for story and lore purpose. You know my opinion about Sebastian, but he's undoubtedly interesting and underrated. And the expansion is important in many aspects. Yes, his quest in Act2 is fun in the haunted house and show Sebastian's nature, but the really interesting is his quest in the Act3, because of Kirkwall's Chantry viewpoint and Elthina personally (and the cameo...). And this war table quest in Inquisition. So, no matter, Sebastian good or not, the DLC's important (in fact must have to me.) Yes, it has something to bring to the table too, but the other two DLCs certainly have more lore and background information imo. I would suggest to get all three DLCs for completion anyway.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Aug 6, 2017 19:09:22 GMT
Sadly, there doesn't seem to be an ultimate edition of DA2, but I agree with the others, that DA2 is worth playing. It had a lot of cheek in tongue dialogue, some really cool companions (Varric became my alltime favorite) and it is an important part of the storyarch. It begins with a situation from DAO and has a lot of build up for DAI. Hawke is a very interesting protagonist and you meet great NPCs on the road. The story has a totally different feeling from DAO, but after playing it for a while, I actually preferred it over DAO (love all three games). I liked Anders in DAA too, but I still like him in DA2. He will be...different and there will be drama and maybe even some shock moments, but he is a well written character, as nearly all companions. You remember Isabella from the Pearl? She will be a companion too and she brings a fresh wind of classical roguerie and pirate adventure for example. Merrill from the Dalish elf storyline is an old aquaintance too, the rest of the companions are new. From the DLCs I like Legacy and Mark of the Assassin. The first one is essential for DAI, the second one is just fun to play and you have an elven companion, that is a Qun convert, which gives a unique perspective on the Qun. I'm not a big fan of Exiled Prince, but that's because, I don't like Sebastian, it is totally subjective, many people love EP - it has a very nice quest in a haunted house in act 2. I just would suggest the other two DLCs more for story and lore purpose. You know my opinion about Sebastian, but he's undoubtedly interesting and underrated. And the expansion is important in many aspects. Yes, his quest in Act2 is fun in the haunted house and show Sebastian's nature, but the really interesting is his quest in the Act3, because of Kirkwall's Chantry viewpoint and Elthina personally (and the cameo...). And this war table quest in Inquisition. So, no matter, Sebastian good or not, the DLC's important (in fact must have to me.) You make a fair point. I felt a bit reluctant to recommend the DLC because it's a little lacking in content, in my opinion, but the Act 3 quest is good and arguably worth it for the character who shows up in it. I actually like Sebastian, though I have a hard time finding room in my party for an archer who isn't Varric.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 18:29:08 GMT
Thank you for sharing everyone. I've decided that I want to play DA2. However, I won't be able to purchase it immediately - maybe in a few months. Though I wish I had DA2 background to accompany my main character, I think I'm going to play Inquisition for now given how I haven't been able to catch Cullen in the tower back in Origins and I've got some unfinished business with him that cannot wait a year. ];D
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Post by Sah291 on Aug 8, 2017 1:09:53 GMT
It won't mess you up too much to play Inquisition first, IMO. You should definitely play DA2 when you get the chance, the story is very good and you will get backstory. But if you played DAO and Awakening and know the general lore already you shouldn't be too lost.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 2:20:14 GMT
@sah I don't know the details, but based on my Origins and Awakening knowledge, so far I'm under impression that this holy war between the Templars and Apostate Mages originated in DA2. Things weren't so bad in the Awakening. It is also my understanding that some heroes in my group are from DA2, so those who played DA2 get an additional delight of meeting them again. It's interesting to see Leliana... though I've chosen a world template where the ashes were defiled and my warden had to kill her. Wandering how she got to Inquisition.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 8, 2017 2:26:44 GMT
@sah I don't know the details, but based on my Origins and Awakening knowledge, so far I'm under impression that this holy war between the Templars and Apostate Mages originated in DA2. It is also my understanding that some heroes in my group are from DA2, so those who played DA2 get an additional delight of meeting them again. It's interesting to see Leliana... though I've chosen a world template where the ashes were defiled and my warden had to kill her. Wandering how she got to Inquisition. Varric is Hawke's friend in DA2, and Cassandra's a Seeker, the Right Hand of the Divine, who interrogate him Three years after Kirkwall, what was the background of the events, and where is Hawke. Leliana also appears in DA2, as a spy, the Left Hand of the Divine, for investigating the Mage-issues in Kirkwall. But only if you have the Exiled Prince, sadly. And Cullen's the Kirkwall's Knight Commander's right hand. Samson, who serve Corypheus in the Inquisition, in DA2 a pathetic, lyrium addict beggar ex-Templar. First time you see red lyrium in DA2, in Varric's brother's Deeproad expedition.
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Post by Sah291 on Aug 8, 2017 16:05:33 GMT
@sah I don't know the details, but based on my Origins and Awakening knowledge, so far I'm under impression that this holy war between the Templars and Apostate Mages originated in DA2. Things weren't so bad in the Awakening. It is also my understanding that some heroes in my group are from DA2, so those who played DA2 get an additional delight of meeting them again. It's interesting to see Leliana... though I've chosen a world template where the ashes were defiled and my warden had to kill her. Wandering how she got to Inquisition. Varric, Cassandra, and Cullen all appear in DA2. Leliana also had a cameo in one of the DLCs. But you are meeting all these people for the first time as Inquisitor anyway, so it doesn't really matter and you aren't required to know any of them already. They wanted to make the game friendly for new players I guess. The only real issue I can think of with playing DAI first, is that there will be some spoilers about the ending of DA2. Yes that's correct, the war between the Templars and Mages breaks out in DA2, but that part isn't really a spoiler. You are already told that info from the start of the game and the whole story is told as a flashback about the events leading up to it. The spoiler part is really just how it all went down. On the other hand, I have seen some people say they appreciated DA2 more after playing DAI. The game was criticised a lot when it first came out, because it is not a direct sequel of Origins, and the gameplay has some flaws (like the maps are a bit small and overused). But the story itself is great. It's my favorite of the 3 games so far. It's not as long as Origins or Inquisition, but has a lot more replayability, in my opinion. (Oh, and there are also two books that came out that take place between the events of DA2 and DAI, called Asunder and The Masked Empire. You don't need to read either of those either to get the story, but they are out there, if you like the lore and want more backstory.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 1:57:24 GMT
Has EA just given me the opportunity to breach that lore gap after all? $4.99 for DA2? Yes, I think I will take that. ... load ... load ... load ! XD I LOVE Varric! How could I not have given a fig when I've met him in Inquisition? D:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 2:52:09 GMT
Has EA just given me the opportunity to breach that lore gap after all? $4.99 for DA2? Yes, I think I will take that. ... load ... load ... load ! XD I LOVE Varric! How could I not have given a fig when I've met him in Inquisition? D: Congrats! Varric is awesome in DA2! And Fenris Thank you! It's amazing how much a well written introduction can change the perspective on a single character. I can't say I've been able to connect with anyone from my party yet in Inquisition. In DA2 with Varric I immediately got engaged by a story because a prisoner being dragged off for an interrogation elicits sympathy especially when he's being sassy about it. It's hilarious that he has that 'I might make up a few details' edge to him. He does it well because my first impression in a Hawke scene was that darkspawn were fleeing from the dragon (not getting controlled by it) and then I was like wait is that DA and not a random dragon? Isn't it a bit early to fight a dragon at lvl 1? D: .... And only then it was like WAIT A MINUTE! You hold that Hogwash! There never was AD showing up near Lothering! //totally duped In any case. I'm only 10 minutes into the game and standing on that path where you run away from darkspawn. I've just downloaded the game and turned it on to see if it works. I don't know how the rest of the game goes, but the first 10 mins of it are entertaining. Witty pragmatism coming from Varric? Yes, I like that! Edit: Pff I was right the first time. It was a different dragon. Whau... in DA2 Flemmeth looks like she found a victim to make her younger after all. She looks good, not to mention kick ass.
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Post by eriador117 on Aug 17, 2017 13:28:04 GMT
The first time I played DA2, I saw that dragon as well and thought. "I have to fight a dragon now?" too. So relieved when that wasn't the case! Varric is brilliant. I think I've taken him on almost every quest in DA2, except when I maybe had to swap him out for a companion quest line. It makes so much sense that he was on these quests that he's talking to Cassandra about
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