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Post by opuspace on Jan 31, 2018 0:04:08 GMT
It's been a while since I've been here, but it truly means a lot to see that there's still people who like an unpopular character.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Feb 9, 2018 16:05:07 GMT
SO. FUCKING. ADORABLE.
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Post by yeah rip on Feb 14, 2018 4:37:22 GMT
This goes nicely with my headcanon that he'd be the one cooking eggs in his and Quizzy's family.
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Post by phoray on Feb 14, 2018 4:48:42 GMT
It's been a while since I've been here, but it truly means a lot to see that there's still people who like an unpopular character. I plan to romance him one more time as a Qunari. I also randomly have an elf that would romance him, but she'd break it off at the trial. Priorly romanced/broke up with him my first play through, and then my 3rd rogue quiz romanced and stayed together for the non warden ending. So, two down, two to go. I would just like to try all the other romances before repeating, I'm not even letting myself have Cullen again, and he's my favorite.
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Post by opuspace on Feb 14, 2018 5:00:05 GMT
It's been a while since I've been here, but it truly means a lot to see that there's still people who like an unpopular character. I plan to romance him one more time as a Qunari. I also randomly have an elf that would romance him, but she'd break it off at the trial. Priorly romanced/broke up with him my first play through, and then my 3rd rogue quiz romanced and stayed together for the non warden ending. So, two down, two to go. I would just like to try all the other romances before repeating, I'm not even letting myself have Cullen again, and he's my favorite. Wow, that's impressive. Usually I tend to save at certain points of a romance and see the various outcomes. There is an overload of variety for each type of Inquisitor that I don't think there'll be one that's exactly the same as another. Blackwall's is interesting for the Easter egg references to his romance out in the wild like Storm Coast and Hissing Wastes
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Post by phoray on Feb 14, 2018 5:09:36 GMT
I plan to romance him one more time as a Qunari. I also randomly have an elf that would romance him, but she'd break it off at the trial. Priorly romanced/broke up with him my first play through, and then my 3rd rogue quiz romanced and stayed together for the non warden ending. So, two down, two to go. I would just like to try all the other romances before repeating, I'm not even letting myself have Cullen again, and he's my favorite. Wow, that's impressive. Usually I tend to save at certain points of a romance and see the various outcomes. There is an overload of variety for each type of Inquisitor that I don't think there'll be one that's exactly the same as another. Blackwall's is interesting for the Easter egg references to his romance out in the wild like Storm Coast and Hissing Wastes like...pre spoil yourself on the romance? o-o I like my first PTs being blind. I've gotten in the habit of flirting with everyone, like a sexual ping, see how they react to it, in a first game. Additionally, I'd romanced Alistair and then Anders and so figured I should romance yet one more Warden to keep the trend (egg on me when he turned out to not be one.) But, mean me, I'd actually planned on breaking up with him(after banging him) all along to go to Cullen in the first place, so his real history just gave the break up amazing RP opportunity instead of just metagaming to get in lots of LIs pants. She went on to marry Cullen, and is quite happy. Then my 3rd Quiz, I was actually planning on breaking up with him again! but she was a tough one, my Mara, and took on a will of her own. She sentenced him to just being Thom Rainier again (I prefer the Warden ending tbh), and when he told her he'd never faked his loved for her, she reached within and found that...she still loved him too. Warned him not to eff things up again, and their ending is nearly as happy and fuzzy as Cullen's. Some art of Blackwall and a Qunari woman was posted in the last couple of pages. The art was so beautiful, and tastefully erotic. So no my desire to see him kiss UP to a beautiful Qunari woman really appeals to me, so that goal was born. The elf I'm thinking of is my avatar. I made her for collaberative Fanfiction, to put form to words. But I want to get her into some different outfits at the Winter Palace, so that means actually playing that far. The idea of playing without a romance sounds dull, so considering her history (in my head, not at all represented in game) the older appearance of Blackwall and his seemingly strong honor code would appeal to her greatly. But she'd judge harshly to learn of his actual crimes, so that would be the end of it for those two. I just wish there was a mod for Blackwall gray hairs at temple. He looks like he'd nail the Richard Gere look.
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Post by opuspace on Feb 14, 2018 5:26:59 GMT
like...pre spoil yourself on the romance? o-o I like my first PTs being blind. I've gotten in the habit of flirting with everyone, like a sexual ping, see how they react to it, in a first game. Additionally, I'd romanced Alistair and then Anders and so figured I should romance yet one more Warden to keep the trend (egg on me when he turned out to not be one.) But, mean me, I'd actually planned on breaking up with him(after banging him) all along to go to Cullen in the first place, so his real history just gave the break up amazing RP opportunity instead of just metagaming to get in lots of LIs pants. She went on to marry Cullen, and is quite happy. Then my 3rd Quiz, I was actually planning on breaking up with him again! but she was a tough one, my Mara, and took on a will of her own. She sentenced him to just being Thom Rainier again (I prefer the Warden ending tbh), and when he told her he'd never faked his loved for her, she reached within and found that...she still loved him too. Warned him not to eff things up again, and their ending is nearly as happy and fuzzy as Cullen's. Some art of Blackwall and a Qunari woman was posted in the last couple of pages. The art was so beautiful, and tastefully erotic. So no my desire to see him kiss UP to a beautiful Qunari woman really appeals to me, so that goal was born. The elf I'm thinking of is my avatar. I made her for collaberative Fanfiction, to put form to words. But I want to get her into some different outfits at the Winter Palace, so that means actually playing that far. The idea of playing without a romance sounds dull, so considering her history (in my head, not at all represented in game) the older appearance of Blackwall and his seemingly strong honor code would appeal to her greatly. But she'd judge harshly to learn of his actual crimes, so that would be the end of it for those two. I just wish there was a mod for Blackwall gray hairs at temple. He looks like he'd nail the Richard Gere look. Actually, my romances are done blind because there's no attachment, no passion if spoiled. But I tend to save after major missions just before I talk to companions for the sake of staying in character. Once the play through is finished for a character, then I go back and see the outcomes in dialogue. It's the major decisions that I leave for different Inquisitors. It's all about efficiency. One Inquisitor with one romance each. Certain ones I'll select flirts if it fits their personality but others aren't the type to string along other people's feelings intentionally. Some of the flirts were very nice in that they were genuine compliments so it made it easy to headcanon that it was unintentional on the Inquisitor's part but read as romantic by the companion. Cullen is a very sweet romance, I agree, but I think Blackwall's was different for me in that he would take initiative now and then. It didn't always feel like the Inquisitor was doing all the pursuing but most importantly, there was feeling in Blackwall's voice actor. Maybe it's the contrarian in me, but it was my Dalish mage who stuck by him. They fit in a sort of a yin yang type of relationship, the outcasts who don't trust the establishments but have to operate within them to bring change. Given the nuttiness the Wardens were going through, it just seems like Blackwall would have been forced to repeat atrocities he was trying to avoid for the sake of duty this time. So his outcome in atoning to the living soldiers he betrayed was more satisfying. Really need to go finish playing the other two games.
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Post by phoray on Feb 14, 2018 6:23:30 GMT
Actually, my romances are done blind because there's no attachment, no passion if spoiled. But I tend to save after major missions just before I talk to companions because for later. Once the play through is finished for a character, then I go back and see the outcomes in dialogue. It's the major decisions that I leave for different Inquisitors. It's all about efficiency. One Inquisitor with one romance each. Certain ones I'll select flirts if it fits their personality but others aren't the type to string along other people's feelings intentionally. Oh, I see. so you play all the way through blind, but then go back to a prior save to explore dialogue choices. Some of the flirts were very nice in that they were genuine compliments so it made it easy to headcanon that it was unintentional on the Inquisitor's part but read as romantic by the companion. I agree that I like this, especially with Iron Bull's heart dialogue being about him being a real person on the bridge. ackwall's was different for me in that he would take initiative now and then. It didn't always feel like the Inquisitor was doing all the pursuing but most importantly, there was feeling in Blackwall's voice actor. Oh yeah, he definitely had some heat in some of the randomest points of his dialogue. he gets serious too quick on teh skyhold ramparts for my taste, but he's an intense guy and just can't be anything else. Maybe it's the contrarian in me, but it was my Dalish mage who stuck by him. They fit in a sort of a yin yang type of relationship, the outcasts who don't trust the establishments but have to operate within them to bring change. My human rogue had a backstory of being an outcast noble (anti noble noble). She'd had a good elven friend murdered with no justice at a young age, and rebelled going forward. She got along with Sera quite well, and her invitation to the Jennies was destiny (she was the first quiz to even get the invite, and so I didn't even know about it and squee'd, it was perfect.) I've seen good arguments for all race combinations going with Blackwall. Haven't liked SOME of his dialogue regarding mages though. . Given the nuttiness the Wardens were going through, it just seems like Blackwall would have been forced to repeat atrocities he was trying to avoid for the sake of duty this time. Well, at this point, we've shaken them up and it was obvious to me WEishaupt Proper hadn't approved. I think o the whole mess as a Nightmare/Clarel/Erimond thing, not a Warden thing. It has a sort of poetic justice to it- you're sentenced to being the thing you were pretending to be. He loved the Wardens anyway.
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Post by opuspace on Feb 14, 2018 6:34:01 GMT
Oh, I see. so you play all the way through blind, but then go back to a prior save to explore dialogue choices. I agree that I like this, especially with Iron Bull's heart dialogue being about him being a real person on the bridge. Oh yeah, he definitely had some heat in some of the randomest points of his dialogue. he gets serious too quick on teh skyhold ramparts for my taste, but he's an intense guy and just can't be anything else. My human rogue had a backstory of being an outcast noble (anti noble noble). She'd had a good elven friend murdered with no justice at a young age, and rebelled going forward. She got along with Sera quite well, and her invitation to the Jennies was destiny (she was the first quiz to even get the invite, and so I didn't even know about it and squee'd, it was perfect.) I've seen good arguments for all race combinations going with Blackwall. Haven't liked SOME of his dialogue regarding mages though. Well, at this point, we've shaken them up and it was obvious to me WEishaupt Proper hadn't approved. I think o the whole mess as a Nightmare/Clarel/Erimond thing, not a Warden thing. It has a sort of poetic justice to it- you're sentenced to being the thing you were pretending to be. He loved the Wardens anyway. I have to agree, he does have a lot of flaws. He is very judgemental, but I think it's a reflection of how he sees himself. His criticism was even admitted to be from a desire to not see others repeat his mistakes if a romanced Inquisitor calls him out on his attitude and he severely disapproves of her actions. In a way, the Wardens at first seemed like the fastest way to resolve his lies: Turn the lie into truth. Make him into what he claimed and there's no more conflict afterwards. The fuss over him lying was a little ironic though coming from Cassandra when Dorian will catch her lying to cover for the Seekers after they did something similar to Blackwall. Betray their own members and cause a massive slaughter of innocents? Cassandra, I've a lovely little kettle that's just your color. Hate him for what he did in the past, but don't pretend to be a saint after covering for a corrupt organization.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 14, 2018 14:09:32 GMT
Did someone say... Adaarwall? Trust Blackwall to handle that much woman. 😎
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Post by phoray on Feb 24, 2018 6:20:51 GMT
Found this: Made me want to romance Blackwall again with a Qunari, it was so pretty. Oh it was me who posted the sexy Blackwall/Qunari Art. It's gone from a want to a will happen. I want to make that man call this Amazon goddess
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Feb 26, 2018 19:06:25 GMT
I've actually been missing Blackwall lately. But I uninstalled DAI long ago and don't know if I want to re-install. But Blackwall is so tempting.....it'll probably happen again :hearteyes: *dreamysigh*
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Post by Sifr on Mar 8, 2018 14:46:11 GMT
Had an fun thought pop into my head a moment ago.
What if the twist in Revelations had been that he really was who he claimed to be, but we learn that "Blackwall" was a persona he adopted after becoming a Warden to try and hide his past as Thom Rainier?
Even though the Wardens are supposed to ignore one's past crimes, much like a Warden Loghain, his infamy as Rainier would have followed and alienated him from his fellow Wardens. So he became "Blackwall" to try to hide/forget his past, but much like it does in normal canon, guilt drove him to come forward when he learned one of his former men was about to be hanged for his crimes.
Could even have given him a nice line along the lines of;
"Figured when in Orlais, it's best to do what the bloody Orlesians do... wear a mask".
In this version, the real Blackwall would have been the Warden who recruited him, a former Bard who forged the necessary papers to make it seem like "Blackwall" had always existed. Much like in canon, he met his end in an Darkspawn ambush, saving Rainier's life.
We could also have Rainier question whether or not he could have saved the bard, as he hesitated in that moment. He already had the forged documents and letting the bard die would have taken the truth with him. He claims that he ultimately did chose to help his friend, but by then, it was already too late and the other Warden had been mortally wounded.
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Post by opuspace on Mar 10, 2018 3:20:40 GMT
Had an fun thought pop into my head a moment ago. What if the twist in Revelations had been that he really was who he claimed to be, but we learn that "Blackwall" was a persona he adopted after becoming a Warden to try and hide his past as Thom Rainier? Even though the Wardens are supposed to ignore one's past crimes, much like a Warden Loghain, his infamy as Rainier would have followed and alienated him from his fellow Wardens. So he became "Blackwall" to try to hide/forget his past, but much like it does in normal canon, guilt drove him to come forward when he learned one of his former men was about to be hanged for his crimes. Could even have given him a nice line along the lines of; "Figured when in Orlais, it's best to do what the bloody Orlesians do... wear a mask".In this version, the real Blackwall would have been the Warden who recruited him, a former Bard who forged the necessary papers to make it seem like "Blackwall" had always existed. Much like in canon, he met his end in an Darkspawn ambush, saving Rainier's life. We could also have Rainier question whether or not he could have saved the bard, as he hesitated in that moment. He already had the forged documents and letting the bard die would have taken the truth with him. He claims that he ultimately did chose to help his friend, but by then, it was already too late and the other Warden had been mortally wounded. So you mean have him really be a Warden instead of as he was canonically? That'd have been interesting. If he was an official Warden, would he have been able to keep doing what he wanted before the Inquisitor found him or would Weisshaupt drag his tail to wherever they needed him?
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Post by Sifr on Mar 14, 2018 6:47:36 GMT
So you mean have him really be a Warden instead of as he was canonically? That'd have been interesting. If he was an official Warden, would he have been able to keep doing what he wanted before the Inquisitor found him or would Weisshaupt drag his tail to wherever they needed him? Yeah, what if the twist was that he really was a Warden, but the Blackwall identity was completely invented as a type of "witness protection" for him? Would have been a fun red herring if we'd begun to suspect him of being a charlatan, only to learn he genuinely was a Warden (but still was lying about who he really was). Since he would be technically a deserter in this case, what if we could have chosen whether we turn him over to Weisshaupt for going AWOL? Or otherwise have the Inquisitor request clemency for Blackwall's efforts in the fight against Corypheus or that his term with the Inquisition should serve as his probation?
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Post by opuspace on Mar 14, 2018 6:51:15 GMT
So you mean have him really be a Warden instead of as he was canonically? That'd have been interesting. If he was an official Warden, would he have been able to keep doing what he wanted before the Inquisitor found him or would Weisshaupt drag his tail to wherever they needed him? Yeah, what if the twist was that he really was a Warden, but the Blackwall identity was completely invented as a type of "witness protection" for him? Would have been a fun red herring if we'd begun to suspect him of being a charlatan, only to learn he genuinely was a Warden (but still was lying about who he really was). Since he would be technically a deserter in this case, what if we could have chosen whether we turn him over to Weisshaupt for going AWOL? Or otherwise have the Inquisitor request clemency for Blackwall's efforts in the fight against Corypheus or that his term with the Inquisition should serve as his probation? It's an interesting twist, but wouldn't that place him at risk of being used by Corypheus? I get that killing the dragon gets rid of his ability to body hop at the end, but I'm not sure if he's able to control Wardens?
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Post by Sifr on Mar 14, 2018 7:36:22 GMT
It's an interesting twist, but wouldn't that place him at risk of being used by Corypheus? I get that killing the dragon gets rid of his ability to body hop at the end, but I'm not sure if he's able to control Wardens? Hadn't thought about that, that could make him a risk of being body-hopped into during the final battle. (Did taking down the dragon actually disrupt his resurrection ability, or did it just remove the only tainted individual in range he could jump into?) A Warden Blackwall might have been more resistant to being controlled, as it was established back in Legacy that mage Wardens are the most susceptible to Corypheus' influence (which is why a non-Warden mage was needed to bind him in his prison). But even if he didn't get close enough to fall under his thrall, it might have been more sensible to bench him during the final battle.
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Post by opuspace on Mar 14, 2018 7:39:02 GMT
It's an interesting twist, but wouldn't that place him at risk of being used by Corypheus? I get that killing the dragon gets rid of his ability to body hop at the end, but I'm not sure if he's able to control Wardens? Hadn't thought about that, that could make him a risk of being body-hopped into during the final battle. (Did taking down the dragon actually disrupt his resurrection ability, or did it just remove the only tainted individual in range he could jump into?) A Warden Blackwall might have been more resistant to being controlled, as it was established back in Legacy that mage Wardens are the most susceptible to Corypheus' influence (which is why a non-Warden mage was needed to bind him in his prison). But even if he didn't get close enough to fall under his thrall, it might have been more sensible to bench him during the final battle. So he'd be like Carver or Bethany in the Deep Roads! Don't bring at risk of death. Actually, that'd be a pretty neat outcome with a fair warning. I kinda like that idea the more I think about it. Think the Warden who ran off with Morrigan is still being searched for?
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Post by Iddy on Mar 28, 2018 15:46:59 GMT
What choice leads to Blackwall embracing his identity as Thom Rainier?
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Post by opuspace on Mar 28, 2018 18:16:40 GMT
What choice leads to Blackwall embracing his identity as Thom Rainier? Pardoning him has him continuing to make amends under his true identity.
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Post by Iddy on Mar 28, 2018 21:52:20 GMT
What choice leads to Blackwall embracing his identity as Thom Rainier? Pardoning him has him continuing to make amends under his true identity. As a Grey Warden?
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Post by opuspace on Mar 29, 2018 0:45:03 GMT
Pardoning him has him continuing to make amends under his true identity. As a Grey Warden? Yes, one way or another, his true identity gets revealed. Unless you refuse to recruit him or he leaves due to low approval, he'll reveal himself as Thom Rainier or the Grey Wardens will notice the discrepancy and ask for him to be transferred to their custody. Always found the last part where you conscript him to be really stupid as he had already publicly confessed before the Inquisitor can sentence him to keep up the lie.
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