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Post by Sifr on Dec 10, 2018 6:41:22 GMT
Beard, to give my Cadash Inquisitor something to hang on to.
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Post by Walter Black on Dec 10, 2018 20:46:33 GMT
Iddy I believe I went with trimmed beard/different beard mods.(I think I got a mod that gave him a ponytail too?) If my only choice is tween those two, then no beard Following up on this, do you think that if we have high enough Approval, we could suggest a shave and/or haircut? Would it take away too much of their agency, or would it be believable for some? Nice optional Companion customization, or resources better spent elsewhere?
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Post by phoray on Dec 10, 2018 20:51:53 GMT
Following up on this, do you think that if we have high enough Approval, we could suggest a shave and/or haircut? Would it take away too much of their agency, or would it be believable for some? Nice optional Companion customization, or resources better spent elsewhere? It may be interesting for a specific companion who is particularly scruffy- that the romance would boost them into asking if they should clean up, or if you like them dirty and scruffy. But would seem out of place for ALL the romances to have some sort of "change their appearance" option. Some characters would be far too independent to ever ask that in the first place.
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Post by melbella on Dec 12, 2018 2:55:05 GMT
Uh oh, late to the party but....definitely beard for Blackwall. Without it he looks like a creepy, no-good.....creep.
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Post by Iddy on Dec 12, 2018 12:39:15 GMT
Warriors are supposed to be badass, but the game really makes we sure Blackwall won't seem that way:
- Varric tells him that Aveline is stronger. - Blackwall complains that sparring with Cassandra leaves him bruised. - He tells Vivienne that he knows he can't beat her.
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Post by Catilina on Dec 12, 2018 14:26:50 GMT
Warriors are supposed to be badass, but the game really makes we sure Blackwall won't seem that way: - Varric tells him that Aveline is stronger. - Blackwall complains that sparring with Cassandra leaves him bruised. - He tells Vivienne that he knows he can't beat her.Because Vivienne is a mage, you know... Mages are dangerous. I don't even think, that my warrior Hawke would able to beat Anders.
And it's not like that Blackwall is weak or not badass. It's like a mage has his/her own power against a simple warrior. It's according the lore, not about Blackwall or Vivienne. If isn't true, why the prison-Circles exist? Their existence is unacceptable even if the mages are dangerous, but if not, nobody would be able to argue for their existence... not even with paranoia...
I think it badass, if anyone able to admit his/her limitations. Not everyone able to do it.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 12, 2018 15:59:59 GMT
Warriors are supposed to be badass They are? I never got the impression that they're seen as more badass than mages or rogues. That said, I think from a narrative POV (not gameplay-wise, because Champions are indestructable...), Blackwall is our weakest warrior. Not because he's not tough, but because Cassandra's a legendary dragon-slayer and the Pope's right hand woman, and Iron Bull is a veteran of Seheron who's been enlisted since he hit puberty.
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Post by Iddy on Dec 12, 2018 16:07:36 GMT
Warriors are supposed to be badass They are? I never got the impression that they're seen as more badass than mages or rogues. That said, I think from a narrative POV (not gameplay-wise, because Champions are indestructable...), Blackwall is our weakest warrior. Not because he's not tough, but because Cassandra's a legendary dragon-slayer and the Pope's right hand woman, and Iron Bull is a veteran of Seheron who's been enlisted since he hit puberty. I didn't mean they're more badass than everyone else, but I usually expect them to be somewhat tough. Regarding the Cassandra example, what I find baffling is that he complains about it. Warriors get injured all the time, so a little bruising should be nothing.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 12, 2018 16:10:21 GMT
They are? I never got the impression that they're seen as more badass than mages or rogues. That said, I think from a narrative POV (not gameplay-wise, because Champions are indestructable...), Blackwall is our weakest warrior. Not because he's not tough, but because Cassandra's a legendary dragon-slayer and the Pope's right hand woman, and Iron Bull is a veteran of Seheron who's been enlisted since he hit puberty. I didn't mean they're more badass than everyone else, but I usually expect them to be somewhat tough. Regarding the Cassandra example, what I find baffling is that he complains about it. Warriors get injured all the time, so a little bruising should be nothing. Could just be teasing. It's not like he complains about getting bruised up when a dragon is chewing on him.
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Post by Sifr on Dec 12, 2018 16:45:28 GMT
Regarding the Cassandra example, what I find baffling is that he complains about it. Warriors get injured all the time, so a little bruising should be nothing. I think it's more because when Cassandra spars with someone, it's not for fun or keep up their training, she fully intends to win and hand your arse to you while she does. Maybe that's why Bull asks Cassandra to hit him with sticks, rather than Blackwall, because he knows that she won't go easy on him.
(Or getting hit with sticks by a hot chicks is one of Bull's fetishes, I'm not judging... who wouldn't be into that?)
But getting back to Blackwall and Cassandra...my guess is that Blackwall only spars and runs drills every day (which is mentioned in dialogue) to keep his skills sharp, whereas Cassandra is fully committed to maintaining and improving her training regimen, if being found destroying practice dummies in both Haven and Skyhold is anything to judge her typical workout routine by.
Or it's because Blackwall likes to hang out in the tavern and has a couple years on her, so he's not in as peak condition as she is.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 26, 2018 2:57:40 GMT
One of these days I'ma finish a Wallmance playthrough. ONE OF THESE DAYS. alas im sera trashAnd I've been listening to this, which always reminds me of Blackwall's friendship or romance with the Inquisitor:
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Post by dirtydiscolux on Dec 27, 2018 1:04:36 GMT
One of these days I'ma finish a Wallmance playthrough. ONE OF THESE DAYS. alas im sera trashI tried making a Dwarf for Blackwall once but my Dwarf looked so awful and I realized she'd languish in prison even if I took her out of the cc, because I'd never finish her game. Maybe I'll try again sometime no I won't, probably. He can be romanced with Qunari but I can't because then Adaar is cheating on Bull. So stupid. But my Adaar has been a Bull riding champ since 2014.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 27, 2018 1:32:59 GMT
One of these days I'ma finish a Wallmance playthrough. ONE OF THESE DAYS. alas im sera trashI tried making a Dwarf for Blackwall once but my Dwarf looked so awful and I realized she'd languish in prison even if I took her out of the cc, because I'd never finish her game. Maybe I'll try again sometime no I won't, probably. He can be romanced with Qunari but I can't because then Adaar is cheating on Bull. So stupid. But my Adaar has been a Bull riding champ since 2014. Hahaha I know that feel. I keep trying to create a dwarf for Blackwall (just 'cause I love him with Cadash, but also Adaar...) but if I make a female character I just CANNOT stay away from Sera, even if that character's personality or story is better suited to someone else. She is my weakness. 😭❤ I do like to flirt with Blackwall and Bull as my Adaar solely because Sera has some funny banter about it if you go on to romance her: Blackwall: How are you two? Sera: Me and Honey Tongue? Good, yeah? I mean, I'm aching. She's a handful. Two of 'em. Inquisitor: (laughs) Sera: Too much? Too much. Oh! Didn't you have something for her? Sorry. Blackwall: Not really. Nothing serious. Sera: It's not about you. Probably just parts. Like the beard and the... parts. Blackwall: That is me. Sera: Oh... right. Huh.
Sera: So Bull, you two are flirty right? Bull: It's just friendly. I won't step in your business. Sera: Frigging right you won't. Bull: Relax. I don't want you lodged somewhere.
Bull: So, you and the boss, huh? Sera: Oh, that's right. You and she had... sorry, right? Bull: (chuckles) Hey, no hard feelings. Glad I loosened the lid for you. Sera: Pfft! (laughs) Inquisitor: That's enough, both of you! Bull: Fine, fine. Touchy. Inquisitor: If you are going to gossip, don't do it when I'm here. Sera: Oh, loosen up, you! See what I did? I did it, too! (laughs) I think she's turning purple! Bull: Not the first time. That said, Thom deserves a soft epilogue. I headcanon that he settles down with my alternate universe Aeducan or something lol.
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Post by dirtydiscolux on Dec 27, 2018 2:37:53 GMT
Loosened the lid. Oh Bull, hahaha.
Sera is always amazing in her banters. Always in my main squad with Dorian and Bull.
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Post by phoray on Dec 27, 2018 4:42:35 GMT
Ew.
Not that I had planned to ride the Bull again until my Screw 5 people Play through, but I DEFINITELY won't flirt even once with IB to avoid THAT dialogue. It wasn't gross till the "loosened her up and purple" stuff
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 27, 2018 4:58:45 GMT
Ew. Not that I had planned to ride the Bull again until my Screw 5 people Play through, but I DEFINITELY won't flirt even once with IB to avoid THAT dialogue. It wasn't gross till the "loosened her up and purple" stuff If you're trying to avoid it that banter doesn't happen if you just flirt with him, only if you sleep with him and then hook up with Sera.
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Post by phoray on Dec 27, 2018 5:00:24 GMT
Ew. Not that I had planned to ride the Bull again until my Screw 5 people Play through, but I DEFINITELY won't flirt even once with IB to avoid THAT dialogue. It wasn't gross till the "loosened her up and purple" stuff If you're trying to avoid it that banter doesn't happen if you just flirt with him, only if you sleep with him and then hook up with Sera. That's a relief. I do like using the Flirt Lines on the Ramparts right after he gets stabbed by assassins.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 27, 2018 17:18:30 GMT
Ew. Not that I had planned to ride the Bull again until my Screw 5 people Play through, but I DEFINITELY won't flirt even once with IB to avoid THAT dialogue. It wasn't gross till the "loosened her up and purple" stuff Who are the five? Is it Sera, The Iron Bull, Blackwall, that one lady in Josephine’s quest, and Cullen?
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Post by phoray on Dec 27, 2018 17:40:25 GMT
Ew. Not that I had planned to ride the Bull again until my Screw 5 people Play through, but I DEFINITELY won't flirt even once with IB to avoid THAT dialogue. It wasn't gross till the "loosened her up and purple" stuff Who are the five? Is it Sera, The Iron Bull, Blackwall, that one lady in Josephine’s quest, and Cullen? I will forewarn you that it requires a lack of morals although I've formed a roleplay that makes the character slightly more sympathetic. Gay in the closet trevelyan jumps into IBs bed for "experimentation". Freaks out afterwards, and throws himself at Cass. Only to realize he forced the situation and doesn't really love her so he abandons ship. He falls for Dorian, they sleep together, but then realizes that in spite of knowing this is where he wants to be, he's too weak willed against his parents to ever go through with it. So off Dorian goes with a sad face. In the end he goes with Josephine, because they respect each other and are fond of each other. Her asexuality appeals to his lack of interest in the female gender. Eventually they'll mate for child bearing purposes. Hmmmmm That's only four. Was it a girl that can do 5? No... A gal is locked into 3. I guess if I count the noble.fling, then yes. The first guy could get five and the lady can get 4
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Post by Walter Black on Dec 27, 2018 18:21:17 GMT
Who are the five? Is it Sera, The Iron Bull, Blackwall, that one lady in Josephine’s quest, and Cullen? I will forewarn you that it requires a lack of morals although I've formed a roleplay that makes the character slightly more sympathetic. Gay in the closet trevelyan jumps into IBs bed for "experimentation". Freaks out afterwards, and throws himself at Cass. Only to realize he forced the situation and doesn't really love her so he abandons ship. He falls for Dorian, they sleep together, but then realizes that in spite of knowing this is where he wants to be, he's too weak willed against his parents to ever go through with it. So off Dorian goes with a sad face. In the end he goes with Josephine, because they respect each other and are fond of each other. Her asexuality appeals to his lack of interest in the female gender. Eventually they'll mate for child bearing purposes. Hmmmmm That's only four. Was it a girl that can do 5? No... A gal is locked into 3. I guess if I count the noble.fling, then yes. The first guy could get five and the lady can get 4 What about Minister Bellise, the optional encounter in Of Somewhat Fallen Fortune ?
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Post by Sifr on Jan 17, 2019 0:21:42 GMT
Here's a fun little "What If?" that struck me earlier. What if Blackwall's backstory instead had his crime be that he was one of the soldiers working for Howe in Origins, took part in the attack on Highever and therefore was partially responsible for the death of the Couslands? Would we be as willing to forgive him, especially players who's worldstate had the Human Noble as the HoF? They could have even tied his backstory into Awakening, having the real Blackwall be one of the many Wardens killed at the start of the expansion, which was how "our" Blackwall was able to usurp his identity.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Jan 17, 2019 1:54:04 GMT
Would we be as willing to forgive him, especially players who's worldstate had the Human Noble as the HoF? Personally, I would find that more forgivable. Rainier was the one who gave the direct order to kill the Calliers, which IMHO makes him more responsible for what happened to them than Howe's men were for what happened to the Couslands. (I mean, 'I was just following orders' is a lousy excuse for many things, but in a pre-modern feudal society ignoring military orders from your lord is not a choice that has a long future in front of it. I find it difficult to hold Howe's men responsible for Howe being an evil prick.)
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 17, 2019 14:50:13 GMT
Here's a fun little "What If?" that struck me earlier. What if Blackwall's backstory instead had his crime be that he was one of the soldiers working for Howe in Origins, took part in the attack on Highever and therefore was partially responsible for the death of the Couslands? Would we be as willing to forgive him, especially players who's worldstate had the Human Noble as the HoF? They could have even tied his backstory into Awakening, having the real Blackwall be one of the many Wardens killed at the start of the expansion, which was how "our" Blackwall was able to usurp his identity. Given how attached some people are to their Wardens, I'ma guess Blackwall would be even less popular than he is now. 😓 OTOH I would kind of like it because it'd tie him in to the series a little better - and it would be narratively interesting if Cousland was recruited into the Wardens and one of the men responsible for their family's fate was also recruited into the Wardens. Shades of Loghain and Nathaniel, but even more immediate.
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Post by Liadan on Jan 21, 2019 23:10:43 GMT
Blackwall is one of my favorite characters (and my favorite tank). I`m romancing him in my current playthrough and it was a while since i last played through his romance, i almost forgot how good his romance is and how much i liked it . Hope you don`t mind if i share some romance screenshots of my current playthrough .
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Post by boxofscreaming on Jan 29, 2019 22:28:08 GMT
Warriors are supposed to be badass, but the game really makes we sure Blackwall won't seem that way: - Varric tells him that Aveline is stronger. - Blackwall complains that sparring with Cassandra leaves him bruised. - He tells Vivienne that he knows he can't beat her. The game doesn't need to reasure us that Blackwall's a badass though - actions speak louder than words and he's basically unkillable with a few points invested in his specialisation.
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