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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 29, 2018 18:42:23 GMT
We'll know soon enough what the truth of it is. We're both looking at this from our own perspectives. Gamers are not one homogenous group (nor are we on this forum ) Some post-launch hard data / reviews / feedback would certainly be informative and will show us which of those things is more likely to be true.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Aug 29, 2018 21:41:49 GMT
aww shit, someone spilled the salt again If that was directed at me? I hate to disappoint but I just took Soderlund's advice and decided to not purchase the game, the first Battlefield mind you I will not purchase since I started playing at around Battlefield 2 way back in 2005. I just think that the video was amusing, I suggest you watch if you want a quick laugh. Hrmm, you know, I do wonder how many fans like me, took him up on that little bit of purchasing advice? Maybe, just maybe, telling people if they aren't willing to accept your political narrative and enjoy being called ignorant or a bigot and they just shouldn't buy it, wasn't the best bit of marketing PR he could have left the game before launch? ._. Also just as a closing note, this isn't a argument, if you sought debate, you should learn that immediately leaping to "discredit" the opposition is the tactic of the SJW and they ruined it for everyone, I suggest you update your playbook. I'm not telling you to buy the game, i'm telling you to chill out. The video... meh Good, you are not going to buy the game, i understand that. i couldn't care more than a grain of salt for what the guy on PR said, i'm playing Battlefield for the combined arms battles, not by " the political propaganda". If you political view changes for playing a game, you have a pretty weak character. Same as the start, I'm telling you to just chill out. I'm not "discrediting" the opposition, i just think that screaming like the batarian in Omega: "This fucking robobitch ruined the game, fucking SJWs " isn't an argument. ah, and am i a SJW? lol
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Post by jaison1986 on Aug 29, 2018 22:53:37 GMT
I preordered the game, the first Battlefield game I've ever pre-ordered. I'm looking forward to sharing my findings from the beta on the 4th (next week). I like having choices in a game, so I suspect I'll be playing as a range of characters. And to those who are easily triggered and don't want to play, they also have that choice and that right, that's fine too. Possibly not the best marketing move from EA to antagonize some players but at least it's honest to explain what's in the game. I guess we'll see soon enough what the prognosis is, post-launch. "Easily triggered". Kek, good one. I'm actually having a really good time seeing people roasting this game from left, right and center. It's aways fun to see pretentious game devs going woke and getting broke. Just because I made the personal choice to not buy this game, doesn't mean I foam in my mouth while thinking how much this game angers me. I refuse to buy games on more grounds then just ideology. If they are boring, uninspired or poorly produced, I don't buy them either. I for one, am completely skipping blacks ops 4 for those reasons.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 30, 2018 0:10:57 GMT
Over 11,000 posts in this single thread. It's pretty much my experience with BF1. The game is good, but I got fed up with the random crashes. So I'm certainly not buying their upcoming BF, cos I have no interest in having this shit again.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 30, 2018 0:31:21 GMT
I preordered the game, the first Battlefield game I've ever pre-ordered. I'm looking forward to sharing my findings from the beta on the 4th (next week). I like having choices in a game, so I suspect I'll be playing as a range of characters. And to those who are easily triggered and don't want to play, they also have that choice and that right, that's fine too. Possibly not the best marketing move from EA to antagonize some players but at least it's honest to explain what's in the game. I guess we'll see soon enough what the prognosis is, post-launch. There's just so many other games on my plate that I care more about. Odyssey, Red Dead, Spider-Man plus with it being worn-out-its-welcome genre; I think i'll pass. I played BF1 because it was a breath of fresh air.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 30, 2018 0:32:33 GMT
I preordered the game, the first Battlefield game I've ever pre-ordered. I'm looking forward to sharing my findings from the beta on the 4th (next week). I like having choices in a game, so I suspect I'll be playing as a range of characters. And to those who are easily triggered and don't want to play, they also have that choice and that right, that's fine too. Possibly not the best marketing move from EA to antagonize some players but at least it's honest to explain what's in the game. I guess we'll see soon enough what the prognosis is, post-launch. "Easily triggered". Kek, good one. I'm actually having a really good time seeing people roasting this game from left, right and center. It's aways fun to see pretentious game devs going woke and getting broke. Just because I made the personal choice to not buy this game, doesn't mean I foam in my mouth while thinking how much this game angers me. I refuse to buy games on more grounds then just ideology. If they are boring, uninspired or poorly produced, I don't buy them either. I for one, am completely skipping blacks ops 4 for those reasons. What does "going woke and getting broke" even mean?🤨
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Post by jaison1986 on Aug 30, 2018 1:09:25 GMT
"Easily triggered". Kek, good one. I'm actually having a really good time seeing people roasting this game from left, right and center. It's aways fun to see pretentious game devs going woke and getting broke. Just because I made the personal choice to not buy this game, doesn't mean I foam in my mouth while thinking how much this game angers me. I refuse to buy games on more grounds then just ideology. If they are boring, uninspired or poorly produced, I don't buy them either. I for one, am completely skipping blacks ops 4 for those reasons. What does "going woke and getting broke" even mean?🤨 It means becoming openly progressive or politically correct and seeing your business being ruined as result of it.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 30, 2018 1:12:44 GMT
And to those who are easily triggered and don't want to play The sheer pretentiousness of this made me roll my eyes. But hey, chalk up however you like, if you want folks to listen to you? Hit them in the wallet, and I think the Pre-Order numbers did that, and well, we shall have to see how it sells in those first two weeks, who knows...The Pre-Order numbers might be a fluke, we both know they aren't, but they could be. But sure, I am sure it was just a bunch of easily triggered woman hating bigot misogynists It couldn't be that they just alienated their core fan base and potentially sunk their game before launch by doing so. I mean, doing something like this on the back of their failure of a Star Wars game to boot, likely didn't help them at all, when combined with what they are up against when the game releases...Brilliant, they are just geniuses. But, it couldn't be that, it has to be a bunch of easily triggered snowflakes that just decided to hate cyborg wamens in world war two all of a sudden. You are the one who called a video game character, one who we know next to nothing about and one who is likely just going to be a multiplayer player avatar to boot, a 'robo bitch'.
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Post by masterwarderz on Aug 30, 2018 1:17:17 GMT
The sheer pretentiousness of this made me roll my eyes. But hey, chalk up however you like, if you want folks to listen to you? Hit them in the wallet, and I think the Pre-Order numbers did that, and well, we shall have to see how it sells in those first two weeks, who knows...The Pre-Order numbers might be a fluke, we both know they aren't, but they could be. But sure, I am sure it was just a bunch of easily triggered woman hating bigot misogynists It couldn't be that they just alienated their core fan base and potentially sunk their game before launch by doing so. I mean, doing something like this on the back of their failure of a Star Wars game to boot, likely didn't help them at all, when combined with what they are up against when the game releases...Brilliant, they are just geniuses. But, it couldn't be that, it has to be a bunch of easily triggered snowflakes that just decided to hate cyborg wamens in world war two all of a sudden. a 'robo bitch'. Aye, because cyborgs from 2193 have no place in World War II Hence the name,its fitting.
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Post by masterwarderz on Aug 30, 2018 1:19:38 GMT
If that was directed at me? I hate to disappoint but I just took Soderlund's advice and decided to not purchase the game, the first Battlefield mind you I will not purchase since I started playing at around Battlefield 2 way back in 2005. I just think that the video was amusing, I suggest you watch if you want a quick laugh. Hrmm, you know, I do wonder how many fans like me, took him up on that little bit of purchasing advice? Maybe, just maybe, telling people if they aren't willing to accept your political narrative and enjoy being called ignorant or a bigot and they just shouldn't buy it, wasn't the best bit of marketing PR he could have left the game before launch? ._. Also just as a closing note, this isn't a argument, if you sought debate, you should learn that immediately leaping to "discredit" the opposition is the tactic of the SJW and they ruined it for everyone, I suggest you update your playbook. "This fucking robobitch ruined the game, fucking SJWs " isn't an argument. ah, and am i a SJW? lol Yada, Yada, assertion of weak character, blah blah I don't care, I just want you to "chill out" So how are you any different? .-. Chill out.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Aug 30, 2018 2:36:04 GMT
"This fucking robobitch ruined the game, fucking SJWs " isn't an argument. ah, and am i a SJW? lol Yada, Yada, assertion of weak character, blah blah I don't care, I just want you to "chill out" So how are you any different? .-. Chill out. I'm sorry, i think i missed your point. I'm hardly agitated, so... no need to chill out.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 30, 2018 8:34:00 GMT
"This fucking robobitch ruined the game, fucking SJWs " isn't an argument. ah, and am i a SJW? lol Yada, Yada, assertion of weak character, blah blah I don't care, I just want you to "chill out" So how are you any different? .-. Chill out. Go prep your bunker for the coming SJW invasion. And don't forget the toilet paper.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 30, 2018 8:40:00 GMT
Aye, because cyborgs from 2193 have no place in World War II Hence the name,its fitting. I'm going to try to articulate this with calm and respect. These are not the same:
The reason I used the word 'triggered' before, used with irony I might add, is that the reaction from some to this character with a prosthetic arm appears for some to cause a knee-jerk reaction of distress well beyond that which is reasonable. The wailing about 'SJW's' from some quarters has reached comedic proportions. For sure, to suggest that WWII was commonly populated with such individuals is faintly ridiculous (even if limited examples existed and have been documented) but I don't see that focusing on one such character in the marketing as an example of their existence in this game is a problem. How would anyone know the character was there and that you could play as them in the co-op mode if they weren't shown? Granted, DICE probably went too overboard making the character so explicit and then got angry about it, but even so. The small strand of opinion that gets hot under the collar with 'SJW's are ruining my game' really does need to calm down in my view. Actually, so long as these characters are reasonably balanced in the game itself, it's just fine. The marketing has emphasized new elements and it's become a talking point. The Beta should reveal the reality.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 30, 2018 9:28:21 GMT
Aye, because cyborgs from 2193 have no place in World War II Hence the name,its fitting. I'm going to try to articulate this with calm and respect. These are not the same:
The reason I used the word 'triggered' before, used with irony I might add, is that the reaction from some to this character with a prosthetic arm appears for some to cause a knee-jerk reaction of distress well beyond that which is reasonable. The wailing about 'SJW's' from some quarters has reached comedic proportions. For sure, to suggest that WWII was commonly populated with such individuals is faintly ridiculous (even if limited examples existed and have been documented) but I don't see that focusing on one such character in the marketing as an example of their existence in this game is a problem. How would anyone know the character was there and that you could play as them in the co-op mode if they weren't shown? Granted, DICE probably went too overboard making the character so explicit and then got angry about it, but even so. The small strand of opinion that gets hot under the collar with 'SJW's are ruining my game' really does need to calm down in my view. Actually, so long as these characters are reasonably balanced in the game itself, it's just fine. The marketing has emphasized new elements and it's become a talking point. The Beta should reveal the reality. Sofa, one is a "cyborg" - the other is a robot. A cyborg is a human augmented with artificial limbs and other improvements. And since that prosthesis on the girl is clearly an advanced cyberlimb - no ordinary prosthesis of the WW2 era would allow manipulation like that "cyborg" is an OK term here, I feel.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 30, 2018 10:34:26 GMT
since that prosthesis on the girl is clearly an advanced cyberlimb So the issue here was really about the capacity of the prosthesis? The technical correction between cyborg and robot is acknowledged. Rewatching the video, the prosthetic can 'hold/clamp' the rifle / cudgel fairly well but I'm not convinced it's bionics in action. Not sure a similar prosthetic on a male soldier would have got the same reaction.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 30, 2018 10:59:27 GMT
since that prosthesis on the girl is clearly an advanced cyberlimb So the issue here was really about the capacity of the prosthesis? The technical correction between cyborg and robot is acknowledged. Rewatching the video, the prosthetic can 'hold/clamp' the rifle / cudgel fairly well but I'm not convinced it's bionics in action. Not sure a similar prosthetic on a male soldier would have got the same reaction. Probably not the same, but some eye-rolling nonetheless.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 30, 2018 11:22:12 GMT
Probably not the same, but some eye-rolling nonetheless. Eye-rolling aside, here's a prosthetic demonstration not a million miles away from that, filmed in 1921. The example in the BV trailer could almost work if it were not for the agility with which the limb grasps and ungrasps the weapons so quickly. Holding or steadying a weapon seems a viable thing to do after a moment adjusting the clamping tension.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 30, 2018 11:44:44 GMT
Probably not the same, but some eye-rolling nonetheless. Eye-rolling aside, here's a prosthetic demonstration not a million miles away from that, filmed in 1921. The example in the BV trailer could almost work if it were not for the agility with which the limb grasps and ungrasps the weapons so quickly. Holding or steadying a weapon seems a viable thing to do after a moment adjusting the clamping tension. Not a million mile - no. But still some way to go - like small battery powered servo motors, computer circuits to do the controls, a proper input interface. Maybe in 30 years?
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 30, 2018 11:51:04 GMT
Not a million mile - no. But still some way to go - like small battery powered servo motors, computer circuits to do the controls, a proper input interface. Maybe in 30 years? Artistic license?
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 30, 2018 13:16:28 GMT
Gotta work on that artistic licence maybe?
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Post by Gileadan on Aug 30, 2018 13:36:53 GMT
Gotta work on that artistic licence maybe? And conveniently get away from the neighbors, i.e. Black Ops IV and Red Dead Redemption 2...
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 30, 2018 13:37:54 GMT
Gotta work on that artistic licence maybe? It would seem so. Yes, at least it's out from between COD and RDR.
Yet EA's market value drops around $2.5 Billion on the news. (6-8%) Those markets eh...
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Post by smilesja on Aug 30, 2018 17:41:38 GMT
And to those who are easily triggered and don't want to play But, it couldn't be that, it has to be a bunch of easily triggered snowflakes that just decided to hate cyborg wamens in world war two all of a sudden.
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Post by masterwarderz on Aug 30, 2018 18:30:42 GMT
Yada, Yada, assertion of weak character, blah blah I don't care, I just want you to "chill out" So how are you any different? .-. Chill out. Go prep your bunker for the coming SJW invasion. And don't forget the toilet paper. Man, my bunker is like three hours away via car, it'd be like half a day of just driving there and getting in.
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