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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 21:52:14 GMT
At the end of Trespasser, did you pick the try to redeem Solas option, or are you just going to try to have him killed?
Edit: Just realized that this should really have a poll.
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Post by xerrai on Sept 25, 2016 22:31:43 GMT
The majority chose to redeem Solas. Notably though, it is my Dalish assassin who romanced Solas who still chose the option to kill him even though she still chose to continue the relationship. In addition to my one of my Trevelyans, that makes 2 on the kill Solas team, and at least 3 on the redeem Solas team.
That being said, the redemption option may still end up having Solas get killed anyway--and my characters know this. They are just making it clear that they will try to help him while also trying to help save Thedas.
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Post by witchcocktor on Sept 25, 2016 22:37:58 GMT
Kill kill kill. Or, if there was a way to completely destroy all his godly powers and seal them away forever, he can keep walking in Thedas if he wants. But I don't trust this egglord at all. What's stopping him from starting this shit again after some time even if you do '' redeem '' him.
Nonono, death is the only answer. Just like he thinks the death of Thedas is the only answer.
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Post by LFS on Sept 25, 2016 22:45:22 GMT
I've only done it the once presently, but chose kill. There's not really any love lost between him and that Inquisitor, and I don't really think he's interested in being redeemed, TBH. Plus, he took her arm, so...fuck that guy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 23:02:00 GMT
Kill. My Lavellan felt like he was really betrayed by Solas.
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Post by sageoflife on Sept 25, 2016 23:06:08 GMT
Kill. If after everything Solas has seen, that he's still willing to kill countless people despite now recognizing them as people, I doubt that there is any hope of redemption, though it breaks my Inquisitor's heart to have to go against his friend like that.
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Post by secretrare on Sept 25, 2016 23:13:50 GMT
Solas is already in my Black list but if there is someone that i truly want to wipe out into the oblivion that is Morrigan she is the first in my list,Solas will have to wait he is not my priority actually i don't even care about him now.
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Post by thats1evildude on Sept 25, 2016 23:15:00 GMT
I just don't see how redemption is possible. What argument could be made to dissuade him from his path?
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Post by dragontartare on Sept 25, 2016 23:22:05 GMT
I've had one of each. My Trevelyan felt sorry for him in a bit of a social justice warrior way, and intends to redeem him. (Also, because it was my first playthrough and I didn't know what Solas was, he and Trevelyan ended up being good friends.)
My Lavellan had already just about had it with Solas' attitude towards the Dalish, so when he found out what Solas planned to do, he vowed to kill him, then let Dorian resurrect him so that he can kill him all over again.
So I'm at a draw. I have a Cadash and another Trevelyan planned (a very religious fellow, this time), but I haven't decided yet how they will handle Solas. I'm thinking Cadash will probably go for the kill because she's an angry, mage-hating criminal, but Trevelyan...being religious, could either kill him for being a threat to all Andrastians, or redeem him because that is what a good Andrastian should do. I don't know.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 23:26:05 GMT
2 out of 3 of my characters want to redeem him so redeem it is.
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Post by oyabun on Sept 25, 2016 23:54:02 GMT
It does not matter,for now he seem to be absorbed in his quest and he is not interested to change plans,at the same time he is too powerful with too much experience in war and magic and presumably immortal.
So you can't convince him and you can't kill him,it appears that he already won.
Anyway i voted reedem Solas is also an hero of his time.
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Post by opuspace on Sept 25, 2016 23:59:19 GMT
One of my Inquisitors always hated Solas. She's had no problem punching him for his condescending attitude so she'll probably have unfinished business with him after Trespasser.
The Inquisitor who romanced Blackwall had always gotten along well with Solas, respected him for being willing to consider both sides of an issue and cared about helping others. Since Solas gave Blackwall the benefit of a doubt, she'll try to do the same for Solas and convince him to stand down. If she can't though, she will protect the people of Thedas from him.
The one who romanced him will try to redeem him, no surprise there, though she's expecting that things aren't what they seem. She's dreading the possibility that he may be right in that he truly doesn't have a choice because something worse will happen if he doesn't. As things are, she needs to know more and what she has now is not enough for her to expect that things will end well. She's expecting that one of them is going to die even while she's trying to defy that.
My fourth one will flip a coin just to save the headache.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 0:01:22 GMT
My Lavellan had already just about had it with Solas' attitude towards the Dalish, so when he found out what Solas planned to do, he vowed to kill him, then let Dorian resurrect him so that he can kill him all over again. I like the what your Lavellan wants to do to Solas; that's also my Lavellan's current thoughts about Solas.
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Post by thesupremedarkone on Sept 26, 2016 0:52:18 GMT
How much you want to bet the well choice or this one will affect if the inquisitor dies
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Post by colfoley on Sept 26, 2016 0:57:17 GMT
I chose to have him redeemed. Despite what Solas wants to do as being monstrous Solas himself is not a monster. There is a certain rough logic to it and he wants to save his people. This is an emotionally scarred individual who is entirely lonely and guilty at what he did, out of desperation, to save his people ended up destroying him. Reedeeming likely ends up involving proving to him that tearing open the Veil won't restore the world of the Elves, that world is gone, and continuing to prove that the current world has value.
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Post by phoray on Sept 26, 2016 1:17:29 GMT
My first PT, I happened to notice pretty early on that Cole and Solas got me extra dialogue options. So, those two plus one tank was my team the ENTIRE game. He was my human mage's friend. We really got along (except for keeping the Wardens and drinking from the well, but I feel like he forgave me for that.) I remember it so clearly, when that Qun Lady was trying to tell me that Solas had betrayed us all. And I was just feeling the barest minimum of doubt when I got to choose the dialogue choice, "I don't care what Solas has done. He's our friend and we will help him." <- not exact line. And I continued the merry chase, and boy, Solas, you weren't kidding. I totally had some questions. And then, there I am, screaming in agony. I just want to have a happy married life with Cullen, and now I have to declare what I'll do if I survive this. Try to save the friend that like, 5 seconds ago, I'd just declared I'd forgive anything or promise to kill him for his misguided goals in life. Heavily misguided.. Honestly, not the hardest decision I've ever had to consider in a Bioware game.
I would try. But like a poster said above, trying doesn't mean I would never kill him. It just means I'll try not to kill him, and if I must kill him, it will be with a heavy heart.
So, first PT, Redeem. As a player, redeem.
2nd PT, my rogue's best friend was Dorian. And Solas was just a weird hedge mage who yelled at her all the time. I was kinda surprised I even managed to get the friend speech, although they weren't close to punching either. So, when that odd guy she'd known for a bit 2 ish years ago shows up out of nowhere with some master plan to destroy the world to remake it in "Elven Glory", she promised to hunt him down and kill him. Of course, considering all the epilogue slides, she is going to be a busy girl. Honor Guard for Cass, visiting prisons with Thom, being a red Jenny with Sera AND hunt Solas down? She'll be a grizzled war Vet the likes of Duncan by the end of that.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Sept 26, 2016 3:46:14 GMT
Canon HF Rift Mage, who was Solas's platonic BFF, totally wants to redeem and prove him wrong.
Everyone else, particularly my DF Archer Artificer who punched Solas's lights out in Skyhold, wants to tar and feather him, then hang him, then draw and quarter him, then impale him, then flay him alive, then say insulting things about his mother. Not necessarily in that order.
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Post by opuspace on Sept 26, 2016 4:02:24 GMT
Canon HF Rift Mage, who was Solas's platonic BFF, totally wants to redeem and prove him wrong. Everyone else, particularly my DF Archer Artificer who punched Solas's lights out in Skyhold, wants to tar and feather him, then hang him, then draw and quarter him, then impale him, then flay him alive, then say insulting things about his mother. Not necessarily in that order. I laughed at how specific that was. Not because I hate Solas, I like him actually, but because you reminded me of that threat Leo gave Marty in Madagascar.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 26, 2016 4:11:39 GMT
Redeem.
Not that I won't kill him if it's a matter of it being between him or the rest of Thedas. But I'd rather it didn't come to that. I like the guy.
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Post by lynroy on Sept 26, 2016 4:11:55 GMT
Solas and my canon were tight like underwear so he's giving his friend a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 4:32:01 GMT
How much you want to bet the well choice or this one will affect if the inquisitor dies I'd bet on a combo of the 2. If the Quizz wants to kill him and drank the well of sorrows then Mythal won't them, and may dispose of them in a "You have outlive you're usefulness type thing,"
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Sept 26, 2016 4:45:46 GMT
I've done both in various world states, but my 'canon' Inquisitor chose to try and redeem him. Not so much because she had any particular attachment to Solas, but because it was consistent with the rest of her behaviour. She continued her romance with Blackwall after finding out the truth, encouraged Dorian to talk to his father, recruited the Grey Wardens, and whenever possible she put Inquisition prisoners to work instead of killing them or locking them up. She always thought that if a Carta assassin could become the Inquisitor, anyone deserved a chance to change their path. Her personal motto was 'what you did means nothing, what you do means everything.'
From and out of game perspective I don't think she has any chance of persuading Solas to stop what he's doing, but it would be out of character for her not to try.
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Post by Blaze on Sept 26, 2016 5:11:24 GMT
well my firt inquisitor was a friend of solas and did not plan to give up on him. 2nd inquisitor hated solas and tried to kill him right there i also had a romance playthrough, which really took the best romance in the game (aka solas romance) and took it to higher levels. the tears... they didn't stopped coming, was so good
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Post by Element Zero on Sept 26, 2016 5:28:28 GMT
Solas is such a likable person throughout the entire journey, even knowing the truth about him, that his plan is difficult to comprehend. He seems legitimately kind and concerned, not only for his companions, but for strangers as well. Yesterday, I listened to an exchange between Solas and Cassandra regarding the true nature of the Seekers of Truth. In his typical fashion, he asked inciteful questions, and then offered consolation, commendation and sincere encouragement to Cassandra, whom he seems to greatly admire. He's just a really nice dude, that Dread Wolf. The problem is that he still intends to destroy this world, killing most of its inhabitants, at best, and thinks this is for the best. He's so obsessed with recreating the world that he feels responsible for destroying, that he'd destroy another. I get that he believes that this current world is a pale imitation of what the world should be, and maybe he's right. He intends to kill millions, though (we don't know the world's population), to maybe, eventually remake the old reality. He's a good person who's cracked. He defied the "Gods", once, giving up his place among them, in order to help the rest of the world be free. That took courage and humility. He's a sensitive, caring person who destroyed an entire world. That's gotta mess up a guy. As Iakus said, I would like to try to save him; but I will kill him without hesitation if necessary. This brings to mind an issue that arises with DA games and their ever-changing leads. It would seem that the Inquisitor's days of adventuring are finished. My Inquisitor explicitly said as much, and the devs said that Trespasser was aiming to tie up the Inquisitor's story. If my feeling is correct, we players may head into the next game with emotional baggage concerning Solas that our PC simply could not have. I'm curious as to who the next lead will be, if new, and how this will be handled this time.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Sept 26, 2016 6:21:45 GMT
I've always found Solas boring and uninteresting so i have no interest in redeeming him and keeping him around. Kill.
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