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Post by Catilina on Mar 8, 2017 15:34:43 GMT
Yes, Solas already responsible for much people's death. And who are Solas' people now? The modern elves adapted to the modern world, they want the ancient world back? Solas angry, if the Inquisitor behave as a god. But he? Let's clarify: I don't hate Solas. All my character in friendship with him, and I don't think, that Solas is evil. I redeemed him because on one hand the Inquisitor can't kill him at the moment, on the other hand, he can think about, what he want to do. But what he did with his ball accidentally(? ), and what he wants to do at least questionable, and dangerous for all peoples on Thedas, and can cause much more deadly damage, than this explosion and the rebellion together. Justice and Anders responsible equally, if not Anders responsible more, for the sake of the truth. So many people blame Justice, but as I see, the explosion rather Anders' method, than Justice's. Anders is not some kind cute funny boy, who corrupted by the cruel Justice. This was the result of an excellent collaboration! Justice isn't worse than Anders, and Anders isn't better than Justice. As I see. And I think Anders don't wants to kick (exorcism?) Justice. He only wants the separation, if Justice wouldn't be damage. He feels responsible for Justice (at least in friendship, if he doesn't hate himself and Justice too). Summa summarum, Solas already killed many people, just as Anders, but his cause is not real, his people already exist only in his dream, the modern elves need freedom, and a territory, where they can live in peace, not to back the world, what they never knew. Okay, perhaps I'm wrong. Solas more dangerous than Anders. Anders goals already fulfilled, so Justice calmed down, they can live in peace, and Anders not a demigod even with Justice. Why can people accept Solas more than Anders? Anders's goal was much more logical and understandable. Solas' goal a (demi)god's goal, to restore a forgotten world, with the change of the world's nature, and with unknown implications. Anders goal was the freedom. (Okay, I got it: a 1000-year-old, soft-spoken [demi]god more exciting and impressive than an angry and mannerless Abomination )Solas is a lot like Corypheus. Both of them would cause the death of many just because they can't accept the fact that their time is over. Yes. And? Conclusion?
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Post by Iddy on Mar 8, 2017 18:09:44 GMT
Solas is a lot like Corypheus. Both of them would cause the death of many just because they can't accept the fact that their time is over. Yes. And? Conclusion? That is the wrong question, as there obviously is a conclusion. If there is something you wish to know, you'll have to be more specific. Much more specific.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 8, 2017 18:13:28 GMT
What was the reason that you mentioned Corypheus? You can't redeem/to forgive Corypheus. (Or agree with him.) You must kill him, there is no choice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 18:54:52 GMT
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 11, 2017 19:16:46 GMT
You say it's far more reasonable, yet you provide no sufficient reasons for it - and no, Solas stating that elven immortality is 'part of their nature' does not follow that "the Veil is a necessary condition for their immortality but not a sufficient one". Like I said - that "part of their nature" was impacted hard and it didn't matter whether it was part of them or not - It. Was. Gone. So was "most people's conscious connection to the Fade" and the Veil is directly responsible for it. And we're still talking in the context of Inquisitor asking a specific question about specific topic - we know nothing of other races, because other races were not included in the answer focused specifically on elven immortality. Hence there's no reason whatsoever to present this exchange as something that makes any definitive statements about immortality (or lack thereof) of all races. How does not follow? 1)Ancient elves are by their own nature immortal. 2)If there is no veil Ancient elves are immortal. 3)There is a veil,therefore Ancient elves are not immortal. Uh, I keep forgetting to respond... I'd like to point out that right now you're not following your own logic. Now you claim that it's the Veil that simply cuts elves form immortality - while your previous point, the one I addressed, was - and I quote verbatim: "the Veil is a necessary condition for their immortality but not a sufficient one". As it happens, NEITHER Solas, NEITHER Abelas, NEITHER Felassan NOR anyone who lived in Veilless world also failed to mention that there was once a Veilless world, OR that it has been created by Fen'Harel. Thet funny little detail surfaces no earlier than Trespasser, with merely a few hints existing before. In fact, I recall proposing that there's a possibility that there was no Veil or Veil was different at some point, long before Trespasser was released and was met with wide skepticism due to lack of concrete evidence. ... So why suddenly absence of evidence is evidence of absence in a series where we can expect such bombshells surface at any moment, without any substantial warning beforehand? Also - the argument that the world 'shemlen' wouldn't make any sense is a bizarre one, considering that ancient elves apply "shemlen" to modern elves as well - in other words, they likely began using it AFTER immortality was lost, to distinguish themselves. Analogously, that's like saying that word "Americans" would be pointless for medieval British... well, yeah - because the words itself wasn't in use back then, when there was no reason to use it, but was used commonly after both nations began distinguishing themselves from one another. I mean, IMO there's a good explanation why none of ancient elves doesn't mention other races (aside from dwarves) either living in ancient times and being immortal - but that doesn't change a high probability of either everyone or almost everyone enjoying some form of immortality. That point however I'll leave out of discussion until more information surfaces.
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Post by Prince on Mar 12, 2017 0:28:01 GMT
You didn't quoted me at verbatim at all since I've said the word "absence". The absence of the veil is the condition for their immortality not the veil.
As for the rest of your post I don't have the time to properly respond now but suffice to say that Felassan is questioned in the book about the other races and he doesn't tell anything too specific about the past, either because Solas ordered him to keep the secret or either because nobody would have believe him or simply he had no interests in sharing his own knowledge with people that were going to die very soon. All he said was that the other races didn't existed before of the elves.
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Post by sungrey on Mar 16, 2017 7:19:26 GMT
I chose redeem, since my Inquisitor was friends with Solas in the main campaign. That was two years ago and I don't know how I feel about it now.
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Post by CatcheJagger on Mar 16, 2017 23:39:25 GMT
I'm not sure what I will actually do when/if the time comes to actually make a choice about Solas' fate. However, my Inquisitor vowed to stop him no matter what, as I couldn't see her trying to save him since he betrayed her and they weren't particularly close to begin with (that's what you get for saving the templars).
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Post by duskwanderer on Mar 17, 2017 3:57:33 GMT
I choose kill. And I choose it as someone who had a great, if somewhat strained, relationship with Solas. I like his wisdom, I like his cleverness. I can't get past his racism, and I always call him out whenever he does it.
Solas is an adult. And he can make his own choices. His choices contradict mine. I will not risk the lives of every human, dwarf, and even non-conforming elves just on the off chance that Solas's Elvenhan fantasy can be something better.
One line I recall keenly was talking about Corypheus with Mother Giselle. We discussed that Corypheus's discussion of walking in the Golden City was not the same as the Chant of Light. Quite wisely, Giselle remarked that, although it was possible that mistakes or omissions were made in the Chant, Corypheus shouldn't automatically be believed just because he had first-hand experience: There is nothing in the world stopping him from lying. Or only selectively releasing the parts that put him in a positive light.
I feel the same way with Solas. I'm not going to let him destroy the world for something that might not even be better.
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Post by Mark7 on Mar 17, 2017 5:51:57 GMT
Solas looks like a bald Nicholas Cage with a melted face,I like him only because he murdered the old hag,if he will do the same to another pair of characters that I deeply loathe I will not just reedem him,I will join him altogether.
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Post by Mark7 on Apr 9, 2017 10:29:46 GMT
I have never not been friends with Solas but I have watched the exchanges on You Tube with an Inquisitor whom he does not approve of and I find them very revealing. In some ways you learn more about him than you do as a friend, may be because he is less guarded and so willing to speak his mind. The exchanges if the Inquisitor has actually claimed the title of Herald of Andraste to be true is wonderfully caustic if he doesn't approve of them. Even if you don't like what he says about the Grey Wardens, it is still revealing, as is his conversation with one of the companions about Corypheus drinking at 3 chalices of magic, Fade, elven and Blight and one of them (the latter) is poisoned. His reaction if they kill Abelas and his sentinels also makes it quite clear how he views modern elves; he calls Abelas and the sentinels the last true elves. Which does make you wonder who exactly those elves are who are rushing off to join him and if they are modern elves, if they realise they really don't count. I didn't got the impression that ancient elves are all that different from modern elves,aside from their outfit they look the same to me. I think Solas doesn't wish to save the ancient elves he just want to restore the nature of all the elves by removing the veil,so it is very plausible that the veil removal will not kill the elves at all. If he will accomplish his dream,the way I see it elves will return to be the dominant race in Thedas,since apparently they become much more powerful without the veil.
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Post by formerfiend on Apr 9, 2017 18:08:47 GMT
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Post by Marduk on Apr 10, 2017 12:15:16 GMT
Solas helps you hoping you can prove him wrong and show him another way. i liked that aspect so i chose Redeem.
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Post by smudjygirl on Apr 10, 2017 16:55:16 GMT
I chose redeem as my main Inquisitor is Solas' lover, so i liked the story. Personally i would like to be able to save him.
On the other hand, i'm hoping for an emotional rollercoaster that makes me question whether or not i want to save him. And if he's too far gone and i can't save him, i want heartbreak.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 10, 2017 17:10:37 GMT
I chose redeem as my main Inquisitor is Solas' lover, so i liked the story. Personally i would like to be able to save him. On the other hand, i'm hoping for an emotional rollercoaster that makes me question whether or not i want to save him. And if he's too far gone and i can't save him, i want heartbreak. An honest argument. I like it.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Apr 10, 2017 17:32:45 GMT
If you do get the option to kill Solas I hope afterwards we get treat his body like this. Dread Wolf indeed.
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Post by arvaarad on Apr 10, 2017 17:40:54 GMT
Depends on the Inquisitor. My Adaar and Lavellan were friends with him, so they leaned more toward redeem. I'm still working on my Cadash playthrough (trying to hit all the Trials achievements), but I suspect this one won't get the option to redeem him. Sorry Solas, I need Trial of the Lovers and you're one of the companions whose approval I can safely dump. After the Cadash playthrough I've got the vague idea for a Qunari (capital-Q Qunari, haven't decided on a race) hippie who considers themself a pacifist. Fights only with traps and never directly injures foes. Not sure where they'll land, but I'm kind of tempted to go for "kill". I love big character-break moments because they show where the boundaries of the character are.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 10, 2017 18:24:59 GMT
What was the reason that you mentioned Corypheus? You can't redeem/to forgive Corypheus. (Or agree with him.) You must kill him, there is no choice. Corypheus doesn't give a sh*t about anyone on Thedas but himself. Solas (at least with a high approval rating) does come to appreciate some on Thedas (even a qunari Inquisitor). He isn't a monster like Corypheus; he doesn't want people to suffer. He doesn't crave worship. Like Corypheus, he wants to make teh world "better". but unlike Coruypheus, he actually feels bad about the destruction such a change would wreak. That implies Solas isn't fully "gone dark side" he may yet be saved. Or not.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 18:29:49 GMT
Redeem or Join Him, if available. Honestly, Humans screwed Thedas up real good, let the Elves take their second turn. And it's not like the Inquisitor got much recognition or gratitude for his efforts. Solas' in the end was the only real bond. So, might as well....
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Post by formerfiend on Apr 10, 2017 20:54:12 GMT
If we don't get the chance to kill him I'm just not going to get the game. What'll annoy me is if we do get the chance to kill him but his death is treated as a great tragedy regardless of our opinions on him, his plan succeeds regardless, or if killing him causes something worse. If they truly want to force sympathy and admiration for this character so badly that they'll make sure that killing him is devoid of any sense of victory or satisfaction, then they've lost me as a customer.
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Post by smudjygirl on Apr 10, 2017 21:21:31 GMT
I chose redeem as my main Inquisitor is Solas' lover, so i liked the story. Personally i would like to be able to save him. On the other hand, i'm hoping for an emotional rollercoaster that makes me question whether or not i want to save him. And if he's too far gone and i can't save him, i want heartbreak. An honest argument. I like it. Well, thank you very much. I do have other characters that would simply like to kill him. So i would also like there to be reasons to question whether or not i wish to kill him in this route. Black and white morality video games are a dime a dozen, i'm projecting my desire for a complicated story onto this haha The only issue is it is unlikely i will have a character that would have such reasons for conflictions against Solas' fate. My feelings with my inquisitor(s) won't carry over well. Likely, when it comes to it, i'd have no real reason to care one way or another. And i really want emotional investment in this character, like i was with the Origins cast. I'm waiting with bated breath about how this story will end, but trying to keep my ideas as low as possible due to the real potential for disappointment, given my feelings on whether or not the Inquisitor should participate in this story. (Just extra information, i don't want to derail this thread into Inky4DA4 or whatever)
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Post by xerrai on Apr 11, 2017 0:48:43 GMT
If we don't get the chance to kill him I'm just not going to get the game. What'll annoy me is if we do get the chance to kill him but his death is treated as a great tragedy regardless of our opinions on him, his plan succeeds regardless, or if killing him causes something worse. If they truly want to force sympathy and admiration for this character so badly that they'll make sure that killing him is devoid of any sense of victory or satisfaction, then they've lost me as a customer. But opinions do matter in the franchise, even with people who have or cannot be killed (ex. Leliana, Flemeth) or when plans have the potential of never being upended (ex. Circle and College co-exist no matter what you do). Even if they try to regard it as a "great tragedy" or an "inevitable action" there is always that portion of the fandom that is going to not see it like that and are going to be glad X character is dead or whatever. We've seen this a couple times with characters like Anders. So no matter what happens to Solas, I am reasonably certain the game won't force you to like him. That being said, it's quite clear the writers have a plan for Solas and they really shouldn't have the game world (or a character's backstory/context for that matter) just be twisted to suit the individual sense of justice for each player. That's going to be b*** to account for and program all the time, particularly with characters who are likely tied to the game's plot.
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Post by oyabun on Apr 11, 2017 1:41:47 GMT
What was the reason that you mentioned Corypheus? You can't redeem/to forgive Corypheus. (Or agree with him.) You must kill him, there is no choice. Corypheus doesn't give a sh*t about anyone on Thedas but himself. Solas (at least with a high approval rating) does come to appreciate some on Thedas (even a qunari Inquisitor). He isn't a monster like Corypheus; he doesn't want people to suffer. He doesn't crave worship. Like Corypheus, he wants to make teh world "better". but unlike Coruypheus, he actually feels bad about the destruction such a change would wreak. That implies Solas isn't fully "gone dark side" he may yet be saved. Or not. At least Cory was honest about the fact that he was an evil sorcerer with pretensions of godhood trying to destroy the world. Solas carries himself with this whole self-righteous, judgmental, "why do you make me hurt you?"This is a man (in the loosest sense of the term) who's actively planning on destroying the world, and all he can do is whinge about how much it's going to hurt him personally.When someone wants to make the version of the world they think is the right one regardless of the implications for other people living within that world they are indeed selfish.So, yes, if you look at it through impartial eyes, Solas is worse than Corypheus. He is also a steaming great hypocrite for all the times he has criticised others, including the Evanuris, for their actions and yet intends to do far worse.
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Post by arvaarad on Apr 11, 2017 3:04:13 GMT
If we don't get the chance to kill him I'm just not going to get the game. What'll annoy me is if we do get the chance to kill him but his death is treated as a great tragedy regardless of our opinions on him, his plan succeeds regardless, or if killing him causes something worse. If they truly want to force sympathy and admiration for this character so badly that they'll make sure that killing him is devoid of any sense of victory or satisfaction, then they've lost me as a customer. But opinions do matter in the franchise, even with people who have or cannot be killed (ex. Leliana, Flemeth) or when plans have the potential of never being upended (ex. Circle and College co-exist no matter what you do). Even if they try to regard it as a "great tragedy" or an "inevitable action" there is always that portion of the fandom that is going to not see it like that and are going to be glad X character is dead or whatever. We've seen this a couple times with characters like Anders. So no matter what happens to Solas, I am reasonably certain the game won't force you to like him. That being said, it's quite clear the writers have a plan for Solas and they really shouldn't have the game world (or a character's backstory/context for that matter) just be twisted to suit the individual sense of justice for each player. That's going to be b*** to account for and program all the time, particularly with characters who are likely tied to the game's plot. I think it'll likely continue to be ambiguous. The scope of his plan is way, way larger than anything we'd encounter IRL. It's hard to say whether he's making a good call or not. I don't mean that as a defense or a criticism of Solas, but rather as an "our brains are not well-adapted for ethical questions of this scale" thing. Regardless of people's connection (or lack thereof) to the Fade, Thedas lacks access to medicine, food, and education. These are necessities that even the worst-off people would have had in Solas' day. Sure, modern Thedosians' tolerance for suffering is different than the ancient elves'. They've known no other world. But "lack of basic medicine" alone counts for a lot of suffering. Does it outweigh the suffering of whatever ill-conceived plan Solas has now? Hard to say. Happiness and suffering are both so subjective, and summing them over a huge population is even more uncertain. Even when we get more background information, we'd still be doing the moral calculus over massive, nebulous scales. There's no danger that extra information will resolve the dilemma or produce a single right answer.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 11, 2017 5:00:39 GMT
Corypheus doesn't give a sh*t about anyone on Thedas but himself. Solas (at least with a high approval rating) does come to appreciate some on Thedas (even a qunari Inquisitor). He isn't a monster like Corypheus; he doesn't want people to suffer. He doesn't crave worship. Like Corypheus, he wants to make teh world "better". but unlike Coruypheus, he actually feels bad about the destruction such a change would wreak. That implies Solas isn't fully "gone dark side" he may yet be saved. Or not. At least Cory was honest about the fact that he was an evil sorcerer with pretensions of godhood trying to destroy the world. Solas carries himself with this whole self-righteous, judgmental, "why do you make me hurt you?"This is a man (in the loosest sense of the term) who's actively planning on destroying the world, and all he can do is whinge about how much it's going to hurt him personally.When someone wants to make the version of the world they think is the right one regardless of the implications for other people living within that world they are indeed selfish.So, yes, if you look at it through impartial eyes, Solas is worse than Corypheus. He is also a steaming great hypocrite for all the times he has criticised others, including the Evanuris, for their actions and yet intends to do far worse. Interestingly, Corypheus is not "trying" to destroy the world. He simply doesn't care if it burns or not as long as he gets to be a god. Solas, I am convinced, would spare the world the destruction his plan would wreak if he could. He simply sees no other way. Solas is selfish and a hypocrite. But to his mind, he is trying to correct a mistake he made.
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