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Post by Kei on Oct 30, 2017 14:13:52 GMT
Morrigan is not an healer,she was unable to heal Genitivi through magic because Flemeth never taught her healing magic and that's why Gameplay-wise she has no healing specialization of her own,so that she is a mage is of no use for her in the given situation. She uses healing magic in my game. You can even teach her the Spirit Healer specialization. Also, it's been two years since you last saw Morrigan, so you can't say what magic she should or shouldn't know. Morrigan being or not being an healer is totally irrelevant(this is actually the 10th time I repeat the same thing.) The warden could have stabbed her on a critical part of her body such as the neck rather than the abdomen or could have inflicted her a finishing blow on the other side of the mirror.But that can't happen because the dlc is abruptly interrupted so the PC can't even interact with the mirror. so it's a damn plot armor.
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Post by Harpie Lady on Oct 30, 2017 14:17:16 GMT
She uses healing magic in my game. You can even teach her the Spirit Healer specialization. Also, it's been two years since you last saw Morrigan, so you can't say what magic she should or shouldn't know. Morrigan being or not being an healer is totally irrelevant(this is actually the 10th time I repeat the same thing.) The warden could have stabbed her on a critical part of her body such as the neck rather than the abdomen or could have inflicted her a finishing blow on the other side of the mirror.But that can't happen because the dlc is abruptly interrupted so the PC can't even interact with the mirror. so it's a damn plot armor. Not to mention that there is no possibility to choose the weapon which one want to use to attack her,I had 2 swords enchanted with fire and 2 poisoned daggers. But no eh everyone is forced to use a knife regardless of the wepons they have.
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Post by oyabun on Oct 30, 2017 14:29:55 GMT
As much as Morrigan is catty towards Wynne, she could easily have picked up a few tricks from her while they journeyed together. Being highly observant is mentioned as being a requirement for a Shapeshifter after all. ecc... Aside from some perplexities I have about the efficiency of healing magic in general,since i don't remember it was ever said that it is able to disinfect from infections,(the problem of injuries caused trough dirty knives is the infection they cause)which is the primal cause of death,,so they didn't explain how she found an antiobiotic to remove the bacteria infection,inside a realm where there is nothing other than broken mirrors,but aside from that I see no reason why all wardens should be forced to choose the same weapon as mandatory for an attack. They are all different PC so it makes no sense for the devs to force them all to do exactly the same thing during the attack.
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Post by oyabun on Oct 30, 2017 14:38:56 GMT
Not to mention that there is no possibility to choose the weapon which one want to use to attack her,I had 2 swords enchanted with fire and 2 poisoned daggers. But no eh everyone is forced to use a knife regardless of the wepons they have. It doesn't matter how many weapons the game allows you to carry within the inventory,you can't use them in the scene,that's why I think is kind of a forced outcome,already determined by the writers.
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 30, 2017 16:08:58 GMT
She uses healing magic in my game. You can even teach her the Spirit Healer specialization. Also, it's been two years since you last saw Morrigan, so you can't say what magic she should or shouldn't know. Morrigan being or not being an healer is totally irrelevant(this is actually the 10th time I repeat the same thing.) The warden could have stabbed her on a critical part of her body such as the neck rather than the abdomen or could have inflicted her a finishing blow on the other side of the mirror.But that can't happen because the dlc is abruptly interrupted so the PC can't even interact with the mirror. so it's a damn plot armor. Stepping through the mirror would actually be a worse idea than you think. The Warden has no means to activate other eluvians, so they would likely be treated in the Crossroads until they died of starvation (there does seem to be water available, so at least you won’t die of dehydration). As for stabbing her in a more vital area ... yeah, sure, it’s plot armour. Sucks to be you, I guess.
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Post by TheHeroOfFerelden on Nov 1, 2017 9:51:02 GMT
Why would anyone stab Morrigan? Thank the Maker for that plot armour!
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Post by skrillex on Nov 7, 2017 17:02:02 GMT
Stepping through the mirror would actually be a worse idea than you think. The Warden has no means to activate other eluvians, so they would likely be treated in the Crossroads until they died of starvation (there does seem to be water available, so at least you won’t die of dehydration). As for stabbing her in a more vital area ... yeah, sure, it’s plot armour. Sucks to be you, I guess. To prove your point you should first explain why the same mirror can't be used to return in the Dragon bones lands,there is no reason to think that they works only in one direction or that they can be used one time only(in fact that is false for this mirror as 3 person can cross it in WH)/Many mirrors of Trespasser can be used multiple times except for some and the last one because they were being manipulated by Solas who closed them with telepathy,but she doesn't have this ability.
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Post by Prince on Nov 7, 2017 17:11:51 GMT
Why would anyone stab Morrigan? Thank the Maker for that plot armour! The Maker would be the first one to put her on the fire,but he doesn't waist time with mortals,so he left this duty to time which nobody can escape.
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Post by thats1evildude on Nov 7, 2017 18:09:56 GMT
Stepping through the mirror would actually be a worse idea than you think. The Warden has no means to activate other eluvians, so they would likely be treated in the Crossroads until they died of starvation (there does seem to be water available, so at least you won’t die of dehydration). As for stabbing her in a more vital area ... yeah, sure, it’s plot armour. Sucks to be you, I guess. To prove your point you should first explain why the same mirror can't be used to return in the Dragon bones lands,there is no reason to think that they works only in one direction or that they can be used one time only(in fact that is false for this mirror as 3 person can cross it in WH)/Many mirrors of Trespasser can be used multiple times except for some and the last one because they were being manipulated by Solas who closed them with telepathy,but she doesn't have this ability. *Sigh* The eluvians can only be opened with a key, be it an artifact, a power or a knowledge. Morrigan only managed to open the Witch Hunt eluvian for a one-way trip. The eluvians opened by the qunari remain open because the only way they could figure out how to undo the lock was to smash it.
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Post by TheHeroOfFerelden on Nov 7, 2017 22:46:47 GMT
The Maker would be the first one to put her on the fire,but he doesn't waist time with mortals,so he left this duty to time which nobody can escape. Nobody,except one who's protected by plot armour!
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Post by skrillex on Nov 9, 2017 0:38:23 GMT
*Sigh* The eluvians can only be opened with a key, be it an artifact, a power or a knowledge. Morrigan only managed to open the Witch Hunt eluvian for a one-way trip. The eluvians opened by the qunari remain open because the only way they could figure out how to undo the lock was to smash it. This particular eluvian was opened with a key so it didn't required to be opened again(it wouldn't make any sense to open something which is already open),also from the cutscene we can see that is glowing for the whole time until the credit rolls,and it wasn't open for one way trip as multiple persons can cross it.
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Post by Mark7 on Nov 9, 2017 0:48:32 GMT
Morrigan's implementation in the sequels was unnecessary as she has no pitoval purpose to the plot,she can be completly ignored and the main quest doesn't change,so I don't like that they protected one specific character of the cast in DAO for no reason.
This is a person which clearly has a fetish for the Jurassic world and would do anything to save dangerous dinosaurs/dragons with absolutly no purpose other than to satisfy her ego,but I can't kill her? Nah better to wait to be killed by one of the stupid animals she wants to preserve.
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Post by thats1evildude on Nov 9, 2017 1:05:10 GMT
*Sigh* The eluvians can only be opened with a key, be it an artifact, a power or a knowledge. Morrigan only managed to open the Witch Hunt eluvian for a one-way trip. The eluvians opened by the qunari remain open because the only way they could figure out how to undo the lock was to smash it. This particular eluvian was opened with a key so it didn't required to be opened again(it wouldn't make any sense to open something which is already open),also from the cutscene we can see that is glowing for the whole time until the credit rolls,and it wasn't open for one way trip as multiple persons can cross it. It's a one-way trip. One-way. ONE. WAY.
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Post by skrillex on Nov 11, 2017 6:03:26 GMT
It's a one-way trip. One-way. ONE. WAY. A statement that cannot be verified in the Dlc, yet you talk about it as if it is proven.
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Post by Prince on Nov 15, 2017 6:27:01 GMT
A statement that cannot be verified in the Dlc, yet you talk about it as if it is proven. Regardless of it being true or false,it's a moot point. The warden (Orlesian or from DAO) have to obey to the player,even if they are commanded to complete suicide missions,so actually sacrificing one warden to destroy Morrigan wasn't impossible nor difficult to accomplish in WH(of course a warden that determined to kill her wouldn't have let her survive until WH,but would have kill her at redclieffe) Hopefully either she will not be in the games anymore,or will be in them with a kill option,since now she is half abomination.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 15, 2017 9:59:40 GMT
Aside from some perplexities I have about the efficiency of healing magic in general,since i don't remember it was ever said that it is able to disinfect from infections,(the problem of injuries caused trough dirty knives is the infection they cause)which is the primal cause of death,,so they didn't explain how she found an antiobiotic to remove the bacteria infection,inside a realm where there is nothing other than broken mirrors,but aside from that I see no reason why all wardens should be forced to choose the same weapon as mandatory for an attack Actually there is a similar absurdity in the novel Asunder. Rhys is stabbed by a Templar in the gut. It wasn't intended to kill him outright but slowly bleed out. Whilst he is a healer the pain is so great he cannot concentrate enough to heal himself so it must be a pretty bad wound. When Cole was looking at him in his cell he appeared pale and was barely coherent. Yet apparently he goes for several hours more, including being manhandled and struggling to walk before finally being involved in a fight with the Lord Seeker, but does not die from his wound. So essentially for leading characters in Thedas the usual rules concerning mortal wounds just don't apply. Morrgian, Leliana and Wynne can all potentially die in DAO and yet return in either the novels or future games. With Leliana and Wynne this is explained by the aid of a spirit. Who is to say that Morrigan didn't have similar assistance?
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Post by oyabun on Nov 18, 2017 15:04:52 GMT
Morrgian, Leliana and Wynne can all potentially die in DAO and yet return in either the novels or future games. With Leliana and Wynne this is explained by the aid of a spirit. Who is to say that Morrigan didn't have similar assistance? The problem of getting help from spirits(the benevolent ones) is that it is very unlikely,because they don't like to interact with mortals,especially if they can't perceive some sort of trait of godness in order to be attracted,which is the only reason why one of them approched only Wynne among all those mages. The spirit who helped Wynne was also attracted in the tower by all those summonings made by Uldred and his acolytes,who abused blood magic to call tons of creatures from the fade. Leliana, wasn't exactly helped but replaced,and I see it just as a way for Weekes to try to resolve a mistake made by others in DAO. Spirits are mind-reader,I doubt any of them would have liked to help Morrigan in the very improbable scenario of one of them being trapped in the crossroads. I think writers just pretended that she didn' got infections(which is odd,because the warden may have used that knife against dirty darkspawns before to use it against her) and used some potions.
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