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Post by Artemis on Oct 15, 2017 21:56:38 GMT
I took Dorian/Inquisitor's ending to be a long-distance relationship rather than a break-up. I believe the ending slides support this, with the Inquisitor sneaking into Tevinter to visit Dorian. It is sad that they have to sneak around rather than being open about their relationship, but I disagree that Dorian is choosing Tevinter over his lover. He can have both But I think the suggestion is that having the inquisitor as a lover would be bad for Dorian politically, and so Dorian chooses not to make their relationship open? I could be wrong. If that's the case, then he does choose his alleged passion for effecting change in Tevinter over his romance with the inquisitor. (I say alleged because I always felt the game did not show HOW or WHY Dorian wants to change Tevinter, just that he does in a sort of generic sense. Dude doesn't even seem to be against slavery.)
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Post by Catilina on Oct 15, 2017 22:00:49 GMT
I took Dorian/Inquisitor's ending to be a long-distance relationship rather than a break-up. I believe the ending slides support this, with the Inquisitor sneaking into Tevinter to visit Dorian. It is sad that they have to sneak around rather than being open about their relationship, but I disagree that Dorian is choosing Tevinter over his lover. He can have both It is a long-distance relationship. Still annoying, and I hate. 'I want help you." "It would so risky, I just want to protect you... or me?..., or you only a distraction in my very important task? Anyway, bye, I will call you! (And my heart still so broken, tears in my eyes!)"(I created a qunari for him, because this is believable, why Dorian doesn't want him to join.)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 22:05:30 GMT
DAO and DA3 just did not leave me with the same impression of the happy end that the DA2 left me with. Till DA3 happened.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 15, 2017 22:12:26 GMT
DAO and DA3 just did not leave me with the same impression of the happy end that the DA2 left me with. Till DA3 happened. Dorian's romance is shit, at least at the moment. I suppose it's similar than Leliana's love (I never did it), if I know well, Leliana leave the Warden, and later they reunited, at the end in DAI. Morrigan similar to, but they can be happy if the warden follows her. So: probably Dorian and the Inquisitor will back at least as a side note.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 22:16:21 GMT
DAO and DA3 just did not leave me with the same impression of the happy end that the DA2 left me with. Till DA3 happened. Dorian is shit, at least at the moment. I suppose it's similar than Leliana's love (I never did it), if I know well, Leliana leave the Warden, and later they reunited, at the end in DAI. Morrigan similar to, but they can be happy if the warden follows her. Oh, for me it ended more on the sad note, rather than the angry one. As in, it was beautiful, but it came to the end. I was hopeful that Dorian will come running back in Trespasser, but it did not happen. It still might, I suppose.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 15, 2017 22:22:06 GMT
Dorian is shit, at least at the moment. I suppose it's similar than Leliana's love (I never did it), if I know well, Leliana leave the Warden, and later they reunited, at the end in DAI. Morrigan similar to, but they can be happy if the warden follows her. Oh, for me it ended more on the sad note, rather than the angry one. As in, it was beautiful, but it came to the end. I was hopeful that Dorian will come running back in Trespasser, but it did not happen. It still might, I suppose. In Trespasser he said it would be a risk if they went together in Tevinter, because of the assassins... I was not sad. I was angry. (Probably as qunari, it is more believable, because the qunari is an enemy of Tevinter.)
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Post by dragontartare on Oct 15, 2017 22:31:45 GMT
I took Dorian/Inquisitor's ending to be a long-distance relationship rather than a break-up. I believe the ending slides support this, with the Inquisitor sneaking into Tevinter to visit Dorian. It is sad that they have to sneak around rather than being open about their relationship, but I disagree that Dorian is choosing Tevinter over his lover. He can have both But I think the suggestion is that having the inquisitor as a lover would be bad for Dorian politically, and so Dorian chooses not to make their relationship open? I could be wrong. If that's the case, then he does choose his alleged passion for effecting change in Tevinter over his romance with the inquisitor. (I say alleged because I always felt the game did not show HOW or WHY Dorian wants to change Tevinter, just that he does in a sort of generic sense. Dude doesn't even seem to be against slavery.) The game did say. He wants to end the blood magic and the hypocrisy surrounding it, at least for a start. He is trying to achieve something in Tevinter that will not only make him extremely unpopular with those in power, but will likely even make him a target for assassination. If his lover were a Trevelyan, I don't think it necessarily makes sense to leave the lover behind. But for any other Inquisitor? Having his lover there openly would not only make it harder for Dorian to achieve the change he wants, but would also likely put his lover in mortal danger. (Especially Lavellan...can you imagine?) You can say that having their relationship hidden, rather than out in the open, is a non-happy ending for you, and that's fine. I just have a different view on it. I took Dorian/Inquisitor's ending to be a long-distance relationship rather than a break-up. I believe the ending slides support this, with the Inquisitor sneaking into Tevinter to visit Dorian. It is sad that they have to sneak around rather than being open about their relationship, but I disagree that Dorian is choosing Tevinter over his lover. He can have both It is a long-distance relationship. Still annoying, and I hate. 'I want help you." "It would so risky, I just want to protect you... or me?..., or you only a distraction in my very important task? Anyway, bye, I will call you! (And my heart still so broken, tears in my eyes!)"(I created a qunari for him, because this is believable, why Dorian doesn't want him to join.) You're free to feel that a long-distance relationship is annoying. I never said it wasn't. I just said that they didn't break up.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 15, 2017 22:36:25 GMT
But I think the suggestion is that having the inquisitor as a lover would be bad for Dorian politically, and so Dorian chooses not to make their relationship open? I could be wrong. If that's the case, then he does choose his alleged passion for effecting change in Tevinter over his romance with the inquisitor. (I say alleged because I always felt the game did not show HOW or WHY Dorian wants to change Tevinter, just that he does in a sort of generic sense. Dude doesn't even seem to be against slavery.) The game did say. He wants to end the blood magic and the hypocrisy surrounding it, at least for a start. He is trying to achieve something in Tevinter that will not only make him extremely unpopular with those in power, but will likely even make him a target for assassination. If his lover were a Trevelyan, I don't think it necessarily makes sense to leave the lover behind. But for any other Inquisitor? Having his lover there openly would not only make it harder for Dorian to achieve the change he wants, but would also likely put his lover in mortal danger. (Especially Lavellan...can you imagine?) You can say that having their relationship hidden, rather than out in the open, is a non-happy ending for you, and that's fine. I just have a different view on it. It is a long-distance relationship. Still annoying, and I hate. 'I want help you." "It would so risky, I just want to protect you... or me?..., or you only a distraction in my very important task? Anyway, bye, I will call you! (And my heart still so broken, tears in my eyes!)"(I created a qunari for him, because this is believable, why Dorian doesn't want him to join.) You're free to feel that a long-distance relationship is annoying. I never said it wasn't. I just said that they didn't break up. Yes. The Inquisitor just a burden. (And Trevelyan also got the same end.) But I agree, this isn't a break-up, and we'll see later... or not.
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Post by dragontartare on Oct 15, 2017 22:46:20 GMT
The game did say. He wants to end the blood magic and the hypocrisy surrounding it, at least for a start. He is trying to achieve something in Tevinter that will not only make him extremely unpopular with those in power, but will likely even make him a target for assassination. If his lover were a Trevelyan, I don't think it necessarily makes sense to leave the lover behind. But for any other Inquisitor? Having his lover there openly would not only make it harder for Dorian to achieve the change he wants, but would also likely put his lover in mortal danger. (Especially Lavellan...can you imagine?) You can say that having their relationship hidden, rather than out in the open, is a non-happy ending for you, and that's fine. I just have a different view on it. You're free to feel that a long-distance relationship is annoying. I never said it wasn't. I just said that they didn't break up. Yes. The Inquisitor just a burden. But I agree, this isn't a break-up, and we'll see later... or not. I didn't say "burden," and neither did Dorian. I understand why you want a gay romance that has an ending as happy as Cullen or Sera's romances. I hope DA4 gives it to you. I also understand why someone -- either an Inquisitor or a player -- wouldn't want to accept a long-distance relationship with their LI. But don't muddy the point by accusing Dorian of saying things that he didn't say. I agree that I hope DA4 brings a better resolution to this relationship. Lavellan/Dorian is the first Inquisitor I plan to import into the game.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 15, 2017 22:53:09 GMT
Yes. The Inquisitor just a burden. But I agree, this isn't a break-up, and we'll see later... or not. I didn't say "burden," and neither did Dorian. I understand why you want a gay romance that has an ending as happy as Cullen or Sera's romances. I hope DA4 gives it to you. I also understand why someone -- either an Inquisitor or a player -- wouldn't want to accept a long-distance relationship with their LI. But don't muddy the point by accusing Dorian of saying things that he didn't say. I agree that I hope DA4 brings a better resolution to this relationship. Lavellan/Dorian is the first Inquisitor I plan to import into the game. True, he didn't say, he spoke about the assassination, and that is risky. It just my angry interpretation. And I hope, we get a good explanation and end...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 23:51:46 GMT
no, all can have good endings, as far as i'm concerned, you just have to be willing to do certain things to achieve it, people don't say that love it's selfish, just for the sake of say it.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 16, 2017 0:03:57 GMT
no, all can have good endings, as far as i'm concerned, you just have to be willing to do certain things to achieve it, people don't say that love it's selfish, just for the sake of say it. The love IS selfish...
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Post by Artemis on Oct 16, 2017 0:03:59 GMT
no, all can have good endings, as far as i'm concerned, you just have to be willing to do certain things to achieve it, people don't say that love it's selfish, just for the sake of say it. I don't think there's a way to be happy with Anders, since he's been overtaken by Vengeance and is now "Vanders" essentially. The poor boy's on a downward spiral at that point.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 0:08:20 GMT
no, all can have good endings, as far as i'm concerned, you just have to be willing to do certain things to achieve it, people don't say that love it's selfish, just for the sake of say it. I don't think there's a way to be happy with Anders, since he's been overtaken by Vengeance and is now "Vanders" essentially. The poor boy's on a downward spiral at that point. Well, let's rework my sentence then; Almost all can have good endings.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 16, 2017 0:12:51 GMT
no, all can have good endings, as far as i'm concerned, you just have to be willing to do certain things to achieve it, people don't say that love it's selfish, just for the sake of say it. I don't think there's a way to be happy with Anders, since he's been overtaken by Vengeance and is now "Vanders" essentially. The poor boy's on a downward spiral at that point. It only depends on the interpretation. This is why Anders/Justice's character is great. In my scenario, after they left Kirkwall, Hawke, and Anders continuing their revolution (confirmed in Inquisition), and live happily ever after... until the Calling (but Justice's present slow down the taint). Of course, if you want, you get the saddest romance ever. Or an angsty one...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 0:13:44 GMT
no, all can have good endings, as far as i'm concerned, you just have to be willing to do certain things to achieve it, people don't say that love it's selfish, just for the sake of say it. The love IS selfish... what do you mean? ( in case my quote can misslead, i just wanted to say that people say love is selfish cause obvious reasons) Yes, very selfish don't you think? S.D: Where is Anders? I returned from my quest in the far, far west and i still don't have any report since he left Vigil's Keep 7 years ago.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 16, 2017 0:18:03 GMT
what do you mean? ( in case my quote can misslead, i just wanted to say that people say love is selfish cause obvious reasons) Yes, very selfish don't you think? S.D: Where is Anders? I returned from my quest in the far, far west and i still don't have any report since he left Vigil's Keep 7 years ago. Yes. Where's Anders? I don't understand the question.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 0:22:09 GMT
what do you mean? ( in case my quote can misslead, i just wanted to say that people say love is selfish cause obvious reasons) Yes, very selfish don't you think? S.D: Where is Anders? I returned from my quest in the far, far west and i still don't have any report since he left Vigil's Keep 7 years ago. Yes. Where's Anders? I don't understand the question. I was making a role play joke, don't worry about it.
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Post by sirwigglepeanutllama on Oct 16, 2017 1:19:03 GMT
Oh pardon my nerdiness but actually Merrill's accent is Welsh, same as Solas Ahh, true. The post author said Irish, so I got that stuck in my head. You are right of course My point still stands with them not all having WELSH accents Wait, it’s Welsh? I live in Wales, it doesn’t sound Welsh to me Lol, mind you I am awful with accents. I didn’t even think Sola’s had an accent but thinking about it... Even so, I cant stand that English banker voice but you have to put up with it because the other voice sounds weird coming out of my Elie.
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Post by sirwigglepeanutllama on Oct 16, 2017 1:25:37 GMT
Dorian is shit, at least at the moment. I suppose it's similar than Leliana's love (I never did it), if I know well, Leliana leave the Warden, and later they reunited, at the end in DAI. Morrigan similar to, but they can be happy if the warden follows her. Oh, for me it ended more on the sad note, rather than the angry one. As in, it was beautiful, but it came to the end. I was hopeful that Dorian will come running back in Trespasser, but it did not happen. It still might, I suppose. It makes me so mad. My Elie is a mage, there was no reason to keep him out of Tevinter. Dorian was just running away. The inquisitor goes through so much shite and then this guy saying he loves him just buggers off and leaves him alone. He just gets abandoned by everyone, just like the Warden. Wish I could punch Dorian, he is almost as big a douche as Alistair in the end. My inquisitor is going to be so angry, pfft, plenty more pretty guys for him to go after. I’m so bitter about it LOl. I get very invested in Dragon age... 💦
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Post by Artemis on Oct 16, 2017 3:20:57 GMT
Ahh, true. The post author said Irish, so I got that stuck in my head. You are right of course My point still stands with them not all having WELSH accents Wait, it’s Welsh? I live in Wales, it doesn’t sound Welsh to me Lol, mind you I am awful with accents. I didn’t even think Sola’s had an accent but thinking about it... Even so, I cant stand that English banker voice but you have to put up with it because the other voice sounds weird coming out of my Elie. Both the actors are Welsh, yeah. My untrained ears hear Welsh, too, but you're the expert
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Post by Nightscrawl on Oct 16, 2017 3:51:44 GMT
If his lover were a Trevelyan, I don't think it necessarily makes sense to leave the lover behind. As someone with a Trevelyan Inquisitor, I'm of the view that he just doesn't have a place in Tevinter society. Neither the Inquisition, nor its Inquisitor, are well regarded in Tevinter. Dorian says as much in Trespasser. Heck, he even alludes to it during the meeting with Halward where he says that his father wouldn't want to be seen with the "dread Inquisitor." The last thing they want is the possibility that the Inquisition -- the same entity that determined the ruler of Orlais (the largest, most powerful southern nation) -- would turn its gaze toward them. The Inquisition was useful in helping the Archon to reduce the threat of the Venatori, and of ridding the world of Corypheus himself, but that's it. At any rate, everyone has their own view of the character and the romance. It's been my experience that no amount of words will change those views, so I no longer try to convince anyone of anything regarding Dorian. I only occasionally put my views out there to show that there isn't only one way to view the character.
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Post by sirwigglepeanutllama on Oct 16, 2017 12:39:51 GMT
Wait, it’s Welsh? I live in Wales, it doesn’t sound Welsh to me Lol, mind you I am awful with accents. I didn’t even think Sola’s had an accent but thinking about it... Even so, I cant stand that English banker voice but you have to put up with it because the other voice sounds weird coming out of my Elie. Both the actors are Welsh, yeah. My untrained ears hear Welsh, too, but you're the expert You mean the actors for Sola’s and Merril? Ha, I’m no expert, I’m accent tone deaf and partially deaf in one ear lol
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Post by Schmooples on Oct 16, 2017 21:01:39 GMT
I don't know how people get the idea that Dorian breaks up with the Inquisitor - he genuinely loves him, which is shown during the game (even if he teases the Inquisitor). Also, "I knew you'd break my heart, you bloody bastard." Don't get me wrong, I was extremely pissed at him wanting to leave (it was, in fact, the only time I wanted to punch Dorian), and I will forever be salty because we didn't get the happy ending we deserved, but it's definitely not a break up. Makes little sense to me why he couldn't take a Trevelyan with him, then again, my Trevelyan kept the Inquisition and will be very busy himself :b
Here's hoping we get a happier ending for them in DA4. (Also, why are Cullen and Sera the only ones who can be married? Not faiiiir.)
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Post by Shinobu on Oct 21, 2017 4:44:27 GMT
I felt my Tabris did all right. She put Anora on the throne and ran off with Alistair. They've apparently been very happy together for the past 10 years. And since I left Hawke in the Fade, they're still together. I initially wanted my Lavellan to romance Solas, but got locked out of the romance by flirting with Blackwall and eventually wound up with Cullen, which worked out well for her. I haven't played Trespasser yet, but intend for her to refuse his proposal and just live in sin with him. So of the three protagonists my Anders-romancing Hawke is the one that had the worst outcome. Of course, no one truly has a perfect ending as the Warden still has the Calling to deal with and Cullen is a recovering addict who may get early onset dementia, etc. I haven't played as a male Inquisitor, but would probably choose Dorian if I did. I just find him charming and meltingly sweet once you break through his hard candy shell. It's a shame Inky isn't coming back for DA4, because reuniting with Dorian and having it out with Solas would just be so much more meaningful for Inquisitors that romanced them.
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