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Post by dutchsghost7 on Oct 20, 2017 4:13:57 GMT
The lore says the chasnid, alamarri(fereldens) and the avvar all descend from a single alamarri tribe yet the fereldans and avvars are portrayed as white while the chasnid are swarthy like they're a different ethnic group despite being related to the former.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Oct 20, 2017 4:16:05 GMT
also: the more northern people of thedas are typically darker while the southern people are lighter/whiter yet the chasnid which are the most southern group of people are the darkest?
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 20, 2017 4:58:42 GMT
They probably did it to spite you.
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 20, 2017 5:08:28 GMT
Man's got a point, though.It's a weird bit of world-building.
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 20, 2017 5:14:49 GMT
Man's got a point, though.It's a weird bit of world-building. Avvar moved to the mountains, Alamarri who would become Fereldans stayed in the temperate lowlands, Chasind went to the marshes. Much like people in our world, geography plays a role in skin colour. This ain't rocket science.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Oct 20, 2017 5:26:44 GMT
Man's got a point, though.It's a weird bit of world-building. Avvar moved to the mountains, Alamarri who would become Fereldans stayed in the temperate lowlands, Chasind went to the marshes. Much like people in our world, geography plays a role in skin colour. This ain't rocket science. Your post gave me some slight pain in my head. It takes thousands of years for what you're suggesting to happen and typically people who live in marshes/swamps/forest were an ice desert is just south of them don't evolve to be dark skinned :/
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Post by isaidlunch on Oct 20, 2017 5:37:58 GMT
Maybe they had a Rivaini milkman? Or Bioware wanted them to be tan and went a bit too far?
I'm more curious about black elves tbh
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Post by Exile Isan on Oct 20, 2017 6:48:27 GMT
Or they got brown the same way I did, they spent too much time in the sun.
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 20, 2017 7:30:18 GMT
Avvar moved to the mountains, Alamarri who would become Fereldans stayed in the temperate lowlands, Chasind went to the marshes. Much like people in our world, geography plays a role in skin colour. This ain't rocket science. Your post gave me some slight pain in my head. It takes thousands of years for what you're suggesting to happen and typically people in marshes/swamps/forest where an ice desert is just south of them don't to evolve to be dark skinned :/ The Alamarri split happened over two thousand years before the Dragon Age. Reading your shitty attempts at trolling makes my head hurt.
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Post by phoray on Oct 20, 2017 11:34:05 GMT
Probably the same reason the half elf in DA2 didn't look completely human.
The art department and the lore department weren't on the same page.
But also, I don't think the writers' study anthropology or whatever it is that would make a person understand how all that works.
The only thing to explain the lush jungle forest of the Arbor Wilds is "magic". They're even with Ferelden, just north of a cold wet bog, yet Jungle.
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Post by Gwydden on Oct 20, 2017 11:40:07 GMT
Man's got a point, though.It's a weird bit of world-building. Not really. This is Tacitus’ description of the Britons upon the arrival of the Romans: “Who were the original inhabitants of Britain, whether they were indigenous or foreign, is, as usual among barbarians, little known. Their physical characteristics are various, and from these conclusions may be drawn. The red hair and large limbs of the inhabitants of Caledonia [Scotland] points to a German origin. The dark complexion of the Silures [in Wales], their usually curly hair, and the fact that Spain is the opposite shore to them, are an evidence that Iberians of a former date crossed over and occupied these parts.” I wouldn’t take Tacitus speculation too seriously without genetic studies to back them up, but his observations are clear. The quote is borrowed from this website, paragraph 11. The Alamarri from DA are of course based at least partially on the ancient Britons. Andraste was, in fact, a Briton goddess of victory.
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Post by Wulfram on Oct 20, 2017 12:57:13 GMT
Probably the same reason the half elf in DA2 didn't look completely human. The art department and the lore department weren't on the same page. But also, I don't think the writers' study anthropology or whatever it is that would make a person understand how all that works. The only thing to explain the lush jungle forest of the Arbor Wilds is "magic". They're even with Ferelden, just north of a cold wet bog, yet Jungle. The Arbor Wilds make sense as a temperate rainforest. Admittedly some of the trees look more tropical in style, but Thedas isn't limited to real world botany.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 20, 2017 15:46:52 GMT
I want to know why some of the Avvar are as big as a qunari.
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 20, 2017 16:32:20 GMT
Man's got a point, though.It's a weird bit of world-building. Not really. This is Tacitus’ description of the Britons upon the arrival of the Romans: “Who were the original inhabitants of Britain, whether they were indigenous or foreign, is, as usual among barbarians, little known. Their physical characteristics are various, and from these conclusions may be drawn. The red hair and large limbs of the inhabitants of Caledonia [Scotland] points to a German origin. The dark complexion of the Silures [in Wales], their usually curly hair, and the fact that Spain is the opposite shore to them, are an evidence that Iberians of a former date crossed over and occupied these parts.” I wouldn’t take Tacitus speculation too seriously without genetic studies to back them up, but his observations are clear. The quote is borrowed from this website, paragraph 11. The Alamarri from DA are of course based at least partially on the ancient Britons. Andraste was, in fact, a Briton goddess of victory. That's a good point. Come to think of it, we don't actually know the genetics of the Chasind. We have a story about them, but who says it's true?
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Oct 20, 2017 16:33:58 GMT
Your post gave me some slight pain in my head. It takes thousands of years for what you're suggesting to happen and typically people in marshes/swamps/forest where an ice desert is just south of them don't to evolve to be dark skinned :/ The Alamarri split happened over two thousand years before the Dragon Age. Reading your shitty attempts at trolling makes my head hurt. 2k years is a second in evolutionary time. It means nothing like your post which really gets the noggin joggin
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 20, 2017 17:06:08 GMT
I want to know why some of the Avvar are as big as a qunari. Dwarven infusion in the gene pool, I suspect. Made them stouter, not shorter.
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 20, 2017 17:21:27 GMT
The Alamarri split happened over two thousand years before the Dragon Age. Reading your shitty attempts at trolling makes my head hurt. 2k years is a second in evolutionary time. It means nothing like your post which really gets the noggin joggin Actually, current thinking is that white skin in particular popped up very quickly. Not 2K years, but not 100K either.
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Post by rras1994 on Oct 20, 2017 17:27:01 GMT
2k years is a second in evolutionary time. It means nothing like your post which really gets the noggin joggin Actually, current thinking is that white skin in particular popped up very quickly. Not 2K years, but not 100K either. They think it came in when humans begin farming. Hunter gatherers apparently had darker skin cus they were gatting large amounts of vitamin D from their diet (meat) while as farmers didn't gat the required vitamin D from their diet they overtime became paler to absorb it from the sun. linkSo approx. 7 k years ago?
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Post by Iakus on Oct 20, 2017 17:56:56 GMT
I want to know why some of the Avvar are as big as a qunari. Dwarven infusion in the gene pool, I suspect. Made them stouter, not shorter. I dunno. Some of those warriors were definitely juicing...
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Post by formerfiend on Oct 20, 2017 18:33:44 GMT
I want to know why some of the Avvar are as big as a qunari. There are some Orlesians as big as Qunari because Bioware thought it would be cool to make the brute enemies unnaturally large. Any human that big would be suffering from crippling gigantism and would be hardly capable of walking unassisted let alone swinging around DA's comically large war hammers.
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 20, 2017 19:57:17 GMT
Too much Brain & Nerve Tonic, I guess.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 21, 2017 2:58:34 GMT
~_~...
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Post by zarrokhai on Oct 21, 2017 5:31:04 GMT
I want to know why some of the Avvar are as big as a qunari. You know, this bothered me too. My Qunari looked tiny compared to them. Maybe it's all that mountain air....
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 21, 2017 6:09:34 GMT
Actually, current thinking is that white skin in particular popped up very quickly. Not 2K years, but not 100K either. They think it came in when humans begin farming. Hunter gatherers apparently had darker skin cus they were gatting large amounts of vitamin D from their diet (meat) while as farmers didn't gat the required vitamin D from their diet they overtime became paler to absorb it from the sun. linkSo approx. 7 k years ago? Right. And Inuit are the exception which proves the rule -- not much sun, but their diet is so rich in vitamin D that there was no selection pressure for white skin. Maybe that's how the Chasind do it?
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 21, 2017 6:45:34 GMT
They think it came in when humans begin farming. Hunter gatherers apparently had darker skin cus they were gatting large amounts of vitamin D from their diet (meat) while as farmers didn't gat the required vitamin D from their diet they overtime became paler to absorb it from the sun. linkSo approx. 7 k years ago? Right. And Inuit are the exception which proves the rule -- not much sun, but their diet is so rich in vitamin D that there was no selection pressure for white skin. Maybe that's how the Chasind do it? If denizens of Thedas can have gray skins and horns or have their look altered by all kinds of wacky stuff... I don't think we'd get far if we try and explain things by strictly applying rules from our world. Thedas is similar to it, but not the same. Their world has magic, and its impossible for its presence to not affect everything, which includes different evolutionary pressures or ways for genes to express or evolve. Heck, for all we know they're swarthier because they live closer to where the Veil is thin or something and that in itself caused more intense production of vitamin D in their bodies and made them taller than lowlanders...
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