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Post by Red on Nov 9, 2017 18:56:57 GMT
I think it varies from context to context, the more fucked up the country is, the harder it will be to correct the criminal, whenever they get out of jail, most of them go on to commit other crimes. Obviously this quickly becomes a socio-economic discussion.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Nov 9, 2017 19:26:28 GMT
I love some guillotine executions tbh. and Bestiarii and Helicopter rides It's about justice and getting rid of sinister people for good (deterrent enough anyway). The other branches are supposed to care about civic, law and moral education and deterrence.
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Post by Larry-3 on Nov 9, 2017 20:08:25 GMT
I am against the Death Penalty. Even if one is a murderer, rapist, or commits capital punishment. That is a difference between me and criminal. I do not support killing for gain or to get even. If we kill them for killing or hurting, are we any better? Let them be used for science to help people and or possibly save lives, or send them to the military with no privileges or liberties, but do not resort to so called "legal execution." So you belive these people should be tortured by scientists, instead of being simply executed? I supposed a remaining life of torture might be a worse fate, then a simple execution. But how is that better? Letting them rot in a cell like a waste, and execution is just wasting another life and makes us no better then they are. At least with science they could be helping to save lives. I am not above some sort of second chance. With time they could earn back privileges. I would rather support a punishment that offers the chance to save lives, than to resort to execution.
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Post by mattig89ch on Nov 9, 2017 20:22:13 GMT
So you belive these people should be tortured by scientists, instead of being simply executed? I supposed a remaining life of torture might be a worse fate, then a simple execution. But how is that better? Letting them rot in a cell like a waste, and execution is just wasting another life and makes us no better then they are. At least with science they could be helping to save lives. I am not above some sort of second chance. With time they could earn back privileges. I would rather support a punishment that offers the chance to save lives, than to resort to execution. The question becomes, will they still have enough of a mind left, to be productive members of society? And will the scars of what they experienced, be something they can ever recover from? Or will those scars make them one day snap and commit just as bad an act, if not worse of an act (maybe even one which results in the trying to destroy their own body so completely, that it can't be used in said experiments again)? Sorry, I'm going through metro 2035 atm, and I just read the part of the reich slave labor mine. Their justification for treating people like that, was what you just described (almost word for word).
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Nov 10, 2017 2:01:08 GMT
Dissolve them alive in acid, that's what I do to the hookers...uhhh, I said too much
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 4:09:29 GMT
Though personally, I chose helicopter ride from that poll. Commit muerte? Meet Dutuerte All jokes aside, the electric chair or whatever's quickest and most humane.
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Post by Larry-3 on Nov 10, 2017 21:58:48 GMT
Letting them rot in a cell like a waste, and execution is just wasting another life and makes us no better then they are. At least with science they could be helping to save lives. I am not above some sort of second chance. With time they could earn back privileges. I would rather support a punishment that offers the chance to save lives, than to resort to execution. The question becomes, will they still have enough of a mind left, to be productive members of society? And will the scars of what they experienced, be something they can ever recover from? Or will those scars make them one day snap and commit just as bad an act, if not worse of an act (maybe even one which results in the trying to destroy their own body so completely, that it can't be used in said experiments again)? Sorry, I'm going through metro 2035 atm, and I just read the part of the reich slave labor mine. Their justification for treating people like that, was what you just described (almost word for word). I am open to other ways for one to pay their debt back, but I will not support legal execution. As long as legal action does not result in more death, my opinion is somewhat flexible.
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Post by masterwarderz on Nov 10, 2017 22:24:13 GMT
Just shoot em, bullets are cheap and effective.
Why firing squads are in such disuse these days is just another matter of politics and imaging, its effectiveness and cost still can't be beat.
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Post by mattig89ch on Nov 10, 2017 22:44:18 GMT
The question becomes, will they still have enough of a mind left, to be productive members of society? And will the scars of what they experienced, be something they can ever recover from? Or will those scars make them one day snap and commit just as bad an act, if not worse of an act (maybe even one which results in the trying to destroy their own body so completely, that it can't be used in said experiments again)? Sorry, I'm going through metro 2035 atm, and I just read the part of the reich slave labor mine. Their justification for treating people like that, was what you just described (almost word for word). I am open to other ways for one to pay their debt back, but I will not support legal execution. As long as legal action does not result in more death, my opinion is somewhat flexible. How far would you be willing to go here?
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Post by Larry-3 on Nov 10, 2017 23:26:14 GMT
I am open to other ways for one to pay their debt back, but I will not support legal execution. As long as legal action does not result in more death, my opinion is somewhat flexible. How far would you be willing to go here? What do you mean?
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Post by mattig89ch on Nov 11, 2017 1:40:50 GMT
How far would you be willing to go here? What do you mean? Well, what are your limits? Where do you draw the line?
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Post by Larry-3 on Nov 11, 2017 3:46:10 GMT
Well, what are your limits? Where do you draw the line? Death, although now that I think about it, there are other things I would be against: un-necessary torture for no reason and uncivilized conditions.
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Post by mattig89ch on Nov 11, 2017 11:36:25 GMT
Well, what are your limits? Where do you draw the line? Death, although now that I think about it, there are other things I would be against: un-necessary torture for no reason and uncivilized conditions. fair enough. What would you define as unnecessary torture?
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Post by House Targaryen on Nov 11, 2017 19:12:37 GMT
If we had more gruesome death penalties like the days of old, there probably be less crimes.
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Post by KingTony on Nov 14, 2017 20:35:57 GMT
There's an argument to be made for gladiatorial combat.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 4:51:48 GMT
As much as I hate the worst criminals and want them to die...
I don't think it's a good idea to give a state the power to kill people. That power has been abused so much in history. A rapist may be difficult to unambiguously convict. And in reality, among the executed are always a few innocent people.
I have very strong emotions especially about rapists, I want them dead. But I fear the dangers of capital punishment far outweigh the benefits.
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 15, 2017 5:22:24 GMT
So you belive these people should be tortured by scientists, instead of being simply executed? I supposed a remaining life of torture might be a worse fate, then a simple execution. But how is that better? Letting them rot in a cell like a waste, and execution is just wasting another life and makes us no better then they are. At least with science they could be helping to save lives. I am not above some sort of second chance. With time they could earn back privileges. I would rather support a punishment that offers the chance to save lives, than to resort to execution. The Illusive Man liked this.
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Post by Sifr on Nov 15, 2017 10:55:47 GMT
Instead of a death penalty, why not force them to listen to;
The Hamster Dance
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I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)
On an endless loop for the rest of their natural lives?
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 16, 2017 5:16:14 GMT
If we had more gruesome death penalties like the days of old, there probably be less crimes. This would really require some examples to support this claim. The idea that making methods of execution more brutal would just see a serious drop in crime seems terribly misguided. Like, really, would we really truly want the state to get into the mindset that "gruesome" is a useful governing tool?
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Post by Inquisitor Recon on Nov 16, 2017 5:33:49 GMT
Read bad fanfiction to them until they just die.
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Post by Larry-3 on Nov 24, 2017 17:55:54 GMT
Death, although now that I think about it, there are other things I would be against: un-necessary torture for no reason and uncivilized conditions. fair enough. What would you define as unnecessary torture? If you have a different opinion Matt, it is alright I suppose. I believe having different opinions only makes one human. I personally just do not like killing. I like being civilized, I like repurpose rather than destruction. I already have mixed views on people sitting in jail not doing much and getting free meals each day. Nevermind killing someone for say killing someone. Punishment is not beyond me, I just prefer punishments that give something back.
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Post by mattig89ch on Nov 24, 2017 18:49:13 GMT
fair enough. What would you define as unnecessary torture? If you have a different opinion Matt, it is alright I suppose. I believe having different opinions only makes one human. I personally just do not like killing. I like being civilized, I like repurpose rather than destruction. I already have mixed views on people sitting in jail not doing much and getting free meals each day. Nevermind killing someone for say killing someone. Punishment is not beyond me, I just prefer punishments that give something back. I actually prefer it, when people disagree with me. I believe separate opinions will make us stronger as a society as a whole. For my part, I believe that torture of any kind, or experimenting on humans for any reason, is sub human. While killing is just our nature. That said, I like the idea of forcing prisoners to do public works.
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Post by Larry-3 on Nov 24, 2017 19:37:16 GMT
If you have a different opinion Matt, it is alright I suppose. I believe having different opinions only makes one human. I personally just do not like killing. I like being civilized, I like repurpose rather than destruction. I already have mixed views on people sitting in jail not doing much and getting free meals each day. Nevermind killing someone for say killing someone. Punishment is not beyond me, I just prefer punishments that give something back. I actually prefer it, when people disagree with me. I believe separate opinions will make us stronger as a society as a whole. For my part, I believe that torture of any kind, or experimenting on humans for any reason, is sub human. While killing is just our nature. That said, I like the idea of forcing prisoners to do public works. See, now that is something I would approve of. Public work is great. I admit, I would have them supervised and with no privileges. But I deem that better and more useful than killing. They are working, and are giving back. They would need to work really hard, but they would still be useful.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Nov 24, 2017 20:24:52 GMT
If we had more gruesome death penalties like the days of old, there probably be less crimes. Not just death penalties, lawbreakers in generally should face harsher treatments and sentences in many cases. In my country, if you rape somebody worst case scenario is getting free shelter, some psychosocial counseling, free high standard food 3 times a day, access to a great health care system, free TV, free education programs, access to computers, a ton of free time, for one or two years - all paid by the tax payers. And oh boy, it gets even better if you have an immigration background. Rapists leave prisons well fed and in a great mood while their traumatized victims suffer for the rest of their lives or even commit suicide. Thats so wrong. If I had to run the jurisdiction of a country the first treatment of convicted rapists, criminals convicted of mayhem or assault would be good old police brutality. Then I'd put them into labor camps, it makes no sense for convicted criminals that caused a lot of harm to others not to have to work for their food and shelter. In Russia they have prisons that mostly run themselves, inmates have to work in order to stay alive. The worst scum like murderers / terrorists would have to serve a life sentence in the worst labor camps and work their asses off. Of course, punishing criminals in such harsh ways does not prevent crime completely or make it vanish magically, but it would make many people reconsider their actions.
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Post by decafhigh on Nov 26, 2017 1:30:05 GMT
What we need is a nice big island out in the middle of the Pacific somewhere and build a giant force field all around it to prevent anyone from escaping. Then place thousands of cameras all over the place to broadcast 24/7. You commit a heinous crime that would have gotten you the death penalty or life in prison we air drop you on the island instead and make a reality TV show out of it.
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