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Post by pelassarias on Feb 13, 2019 3:01:03 GMT
Right, I totally had a goof on my last post and was so focused on the time frame that it totally slipped my mind about differing time zones for everyone. My apologies, everyone! So it is possible, depending on their time zones, that Cati and romice could have been asleep while all of this occurred. The time frame between reed's hint and Space's post however, is ten hours. So it is also possible that they could have seen this as well, depending how long they were awake, asleep, or busy they were during this day. But even with the question about whether or not romice or Cati was able to see reed's hint on time, things still aren't quite adding up for me about this situation. Even though Conrad could be in the game, I do think a Good Legion would have given the Heroes something to indicate what could possibly happen, even if it was pretty vague. This didn't happen however, which makes me lean towards the possibility that Cati could be Evil Legion. So I could be overthinking this entire situation really, which I'm probably am , but I will follow Arcadia and vote for Cati as well. Sorry Cati, if you're actually innocent and you were just trying to get out of a tiebreaker. Also, I do think we should probably put another person up for a tiebreaker, thus putting two people up. This is mainly due to the fact that Evil EDI is in the game and can possibly provide some insight on who could be the spy duo and who the spy duo could not be based on her vote and the fact that she cannot vote for her accomplices. So if everyone in the game votes up two people evenly during this round, then this will indicate that Evil EDI was able to place a vote on one of the players up for the tiebreaker. So this will indicate that at least one of those two players are innocent, and they are not in cahoots with one another. If one player however, did not place a vote on the two players in question, this will indicate that those two players are the spy duo and Evil EDI is the person who didn't vote for them. This is all assuming of course that there is an even number of players still in the game, which I could be wrong about.
ETA: With the other spies in game however, putting two people up might not go as smoothly during this round. But if it doesn't, this can also provide clues for the Heroes as well.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 13, 2019 4:55:42 GMT
You want to put two people in a tiebreaker, that could be innocent? We really can't afford to loose anymore heroes. And I'm still not convinced of Catis guild. He saved himself, nothing wrong about that. And as for reeds hint, I didn't get that at all. I know, I'm the ME noob here, having quit the game halfway through the second part because of boredom, but I will give Cati the benefit of doubt for now and will wait with my vote until more people have posted to give me something to work with
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Feb 13, 2019 6:15:21 GMT
How does everyone know Cat is Legion? Actually that is what confused me at first. I thought there were 3 people in the tie-breaker, Pelassarias, Catilina and Reed. However, Pelassarias was the one who first suggested Catilina was Legion and she knew she wasn't so it had to be the other person. We know Legion had to have used his ability because Reed was eliminated, instead of there being a tie-breaker, so someone must have directed all the votes to him. There are only a few characters who could have done this. Tali can protect someone from being voted off but then no one would have been eliminated. Conrad Verner could mimic the ability if he knew who had the role but that is highly unlikely this early. So the obvious answer seemed to be that Legion had used his ability and then Catilina apologised for voting Reed off, so clearly it was him. It should be two not three. I thought Catilina was up for the boot. The voting list seemed to reflect that, on page 194. I was the last to vote. I saw the others had one vote but Cati had two which was why I randomly chose Pela and said I want to have them fight it out. So I was confused when Reed apparently had two votes as well and then knocked out. That didn't make sense, it should have been Pela vs Cati so as it is, after reading the posts, Cati is likely Legion which explains why Reed was bumped off. P.S. I've to admit I'm presently at a lost of the present status after checking the front page for a update.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Feb 13, 2019 10:41:30 GMT
It was a three way tie, but irrelevant since it was overridden anyway. And what makes you al think there is a spy duo?
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Post by Catilina on Feb 13, 2019 10:44:29 GMT
I still don't know, for whom I can vote without making me more suspicious...
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 13, 2019 19:02:10 GMT
And as for reeds hint, I didn't get that at all. Well, if anyone feels they can't make it through the night, might wanna rethink the votes on me... Whilst this is said more with the benefit of hindsight because I didn't see the clue before Reed was eliminated, this was a hint at his role as detailed at the beginning of the thread rather than referencing anything in game.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 13, 2019 19:03:28 GMT
And as for reeds hint, I didn't get that at all. Well, if anyone feels they can't make it through the night, might wanna rethink the votes on me... Whilst this is said more with the benefit of hindsight because I didn't see the clue before Reed was eliminated, this was a hint at his role as detailed at the beginning of the thread rather than referencing anything in game. Thanks, I missed that totally.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 14, 2019 4:20:57 GMT
And as for reeds hint, I didn't get that at all. Well, if anyone feels they can't make it through the night, might wanna rethink the votes on me... Whilst this is said more with the benefit of hindsight because I didn't see the clue before Reed was eliminated, this was a hint at his role as detailed at the beginning of the thread rather than referencing anything in game. Shit, sorry! Was this a no hinting round??
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Post by Space Cowboy on Feb 14, 2019 10:20:58 GMT
Whilst this is said more with the benefit of hindsight because I didn't see the clue before Reed was eliminated, this was a hint at his role as detailed at the beginning of the thread rather than referencing anything in game. Shit, sorry! Was this a no hinting round?? No, hinting as normal is fine. I thought gervaise meant you were hinting to this games role rather than Mass Effect, if that makes sene
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 14, 2019 15:53:32 GMT
oh yeah, I was trying to be sort of vague on the off chance it worked so that I wouldn't potentially be immediately targeted at night by the villains.
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Post by pelassarias on Feb 15, 2019 0:55:32 GMT
And what makes you al think there is a spy duo? I figured odds are there was probably two spies in the beginning of this game, since typically there is. But even if I'm wrong and we have four spies including EDI, putting two players up for the tiebreaker can still give us insight on which players could be in cahoots and which players are not, since Evil EDI's in game.
ETA:
You want to put two people in a tiebreaker, that could be innocent? We really can't afford to loose anymore heroes.
I want to put two people in the tiebreaker for the sole reason of figuring out who could possibly be apart of the spy team since Evil EDI is in game and cannot vote for her accomplices. Plus Liara is gone, so any sort of information indicating which players could be apart of the spy team or not is better than nothing. Also, we have done this before plenty of times throughout these games before EDI was even turned, so I don't really see this as a bad or controversial method if I'm going to be honest here.
Also, Cati could very well be innocent here, but we can't ignore the fact that his voting record along with romice's isn't a little suspicious, especially considering we don't really have that much to go on besides what transpired last round.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 15, 2019 1:32:12 GMT
And what makes you al think there is a spy duo? I figured odds are there was probably two spies in the beginning of this game, since typically there is. But even if I'm wrong and we have four spies including EDI, putting two players up for the tiebreaker can still give us insight on which players could be in cahoots and which players are not, since Evil EDI's in game.
ETA:
You want to put two people in a tiebreaker, that could be innocent? We really can't afford to loose anymore heroes.
I want to put two people in the tiebreaker for the sole reason of figuring out who could possibly be apart of the spy team since Evil EDI is in game and cannot vote for her accomplices. Also, we done this before plenty of times throughout these games before EDI was even turned, so I don't really see this as a bad or controversial method if I'm going to be honest here.
Also, Cati could very well be innocent here, but we can't ignore the fact that his voting record along with romice's isn't a little suspicious, especially considering we don't really have that much to go on besides what transpired last round.
The plan does make sense, and in any case, we've all got to vote for someone whether we have evidence of who is evil or not. I'm not convinced of either cati or romice being suspicious, since I have been fairly absent this game as well and need some time to consider the (admittedly scant) evidence available.
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Post by romice on Feb 15, 2019 5:20:46 GMT
I'm still not sure what to do. I'm not convinced Cati is evil and I definitely don't want to put him 3 votes in the lead, without any solid reason. Yes, he eliminated Reed/Grunt, but it seems half of us didn't catch Reed's clue either. Unless it was a spy plot I need to think some more about who to vote for.
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Post by pelassarias on Feb 17, 2019 0:39:09 GMT
Alright, well I'm glad to hear that this plan I came up with isn't as mad as I thought it might have sounded. And this will be interesting, looking into who the spies/EDI will possibly vote for this round. So by all means, take your time spies, you're going to need it. As for the rest of the undecided Heroes, if you're not convinced about Cati's or romice's culpability, that means you're more than likely going to place your vote on someone based on less evidence than Cati and romice's evidence, unless you're going to vote for someone who voted for you last round or based on suspicious behavior. There are one or two players who I think is behaving a bit off, so voting for someone based on behavior wouldn't be a bad reason to vote for someone at all. Speaking of behavior, as I've said before, there are a few players who seem to be behaving a little off this round. One in particular I think is giving off EDI vibes , but I won't point the finger just yet until much later and until I found out who everyone has voted for.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Feb 17, 2019 0:41:34 GMT
Alright, well I'm glad to hear that this plan I came up with isn't as mad as I thought it might have sounded. And this will be interesting, looking into who the spies/EDI will possibly vote for this round. So by all means, take your time spies, you're going to need it. As for the rest of the undecided Heroes, if you're not convinced about Cati's or romice's culpability, that means you're more than likely going to place your vote on someone based on less evidence than Cati and romice's evidence, unless you're going to vote for someone who voted for you last round or based on suspicious behavior. There are one or two players who I think is behaving a bit off, so voting for someone based on behavior wouldn't be a bad reason to vote for someone at all. Speaking of behavior, as I've said before, there's a few players who seem to be behaving a little off this round. One in particular I think is giving off EDI vibes , but I won't point the finger just yet until much later and until I found out who everyone has voted for. I'm not EDI. beep boop.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 17, 2019 7:50:56 GMT
Can someone tell me, why romice is a suspect now?
And if someone has a suspicion, it would be better, to voice them, so pela, if you think, you know, who EDI is, do let us know. I'm sorry, I seem to miss a lot of things this round, but as I told you, I'm not feeling that well and am a bit off my game.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 17, 2019 13:24:18 GMT
Can someone tell me, why romice is a suspect now? And if someone has a suspicion, it would be better, to voice them, so pela, if you think, you know, who EDI is, do let us know. I'm sorry, I seem to miss a lot of things this round, but as I told you, I'm not feeling that well and am a bit off my game. Perhaps, because she also voted to Reed. I don't think, she's more suspicious than everyone else – but probably it just me: I'm still in dark. That early votes aren't mean anything, most of them are random.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 18, 2019 4:54:42 GMT
I put together a summary, along with some rambling thoughts that came as I read the last few pages. Moon/Liara - eliminated night 1 Day 1Gervaise - voted for Pela (had gut feeling about someone else, but instead went "random" because gut feeling has been off) pela - countervoted for gervaise dragon - voted for reed (random) changed vote to catilina after reed's countervote and offer to switch away; chose catilina since anyone else would be able to retaliate and add a vote fylimar - voted for romice (random) changed vote to Arcadia after Arcadia voted for her, and because romice was more likely to retaliate and fylimar didn't want two votes on herself Arcadia - voted for fylimar (just said "leaning towards") catilina - voted for dragon (random) changed vote to reed after acquiring votes from both dragon and reed romice - voted for reed (stated wanted to break the tie, continued puppy/kitty bowling joke) reed/Grunt - voted for dragon (stated he would switch away if I did) changed vote to catilina after dragon changed vote away from himself and to catilina (catilina did ask why and I don't think reed answered) gave hint for protection role after Space started the 12-ish hour countdown eliminated by Legion OG - voted for pela (stated random, to force a fight/tie for cati) Night 2 - EDI turned Day 2 Arcadia and pela both voted for catilina. I don't necessarily find it suspicious that catilina chose to eliminate reed instead of pela or anyone else. I voted for cati only because he already voted for me, but then reed switched to him without giving a reason, even after catilina asked for one. I would have been suspicious of reed too, had I been in catilina's place. Additionally, I know some of you are suspicious that cati missed reed's hint, but cati has missed many hints in previous games, even while completely innocent, so this behavior is consistent for him and not necessarily an indication that he is a spy. (No, it's not evidence of innocence, either. It's just...kind of a wash.) Pela seems to think that those who voted for her and reed are likely suspects. This list is (final votes only): Gervaise, catilina, romice, OG. Pela also has a hunch that EDI is not in that list of players.** Not saying I agree or disagree, but just putting the information out there. **Is this a subtle hint from a turned EDI who wishes she didn't have to switch allegiances? Or an attempt by EDI to turn suspicion away from the players she now knows are spies? Just a thought. (Actually, having continued reading, pela repeated her list of suspicious players, citing catilina and romice as most suspicious for voting for reed, and gervaise and OG has still suspicious, but less so, for voting for her. This casts some doubt on my wild theory about EDI's identity.) Also, it's rather odd that Master of Suspicion Gervaise is making excuses for Legion/catilina's missing of the hint. This is a player that usually pounces on others (or just on me) for missing hints. Is this a player with a softened heart, or a guilty one?
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 18, 2019 13:39:47 GMT
Also, it's rather odd that Master of Suspicion Gervaise is making excuses for Legion/catilina's missing of the hint. This is a player that usually pounces on others (or just on me) for missing hints. Is this a player with a softened heart, or a guilty one? I've mellowed a little but I'm not the only person making excuses for Legion not seeing the hint. You will also note that I pointed out to Fylimar what the hint was when she said it wasn't obvious and I also said that either or both of the people involved in the tie-breaker could be innocent. I think that makes it clear that I am just trying to be fair to everyone bearing in mind that Reed did leave it very late in the day to make a hint. As I say above, I came on line too late to do anything about it so it seems likely other people were the same.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 18, 2019 15:04:29 GMT
To be fair, I didn't state why I voted for catilina because I assumed it was obvious. I followed the vote of the person I told to switch off me in order to try to keep myself from being tied.
Not that it matters at this point tho. lol
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Post by pelassarias on Feb 18, 2019 17:03:43 GMT
Personally, I I think I'll leave my vote where it is for now. Although it's still possible that Cati's innocent, I feel like there is a number of players who have become a little bit too defensive to the point where it has come across as odd for their typical behavior. This makes me believe that I might not be too off the mark with my vote. Also, there's been a number of players who said they missed reed's clear hint, and although I do think it's possible maybe a few could have missed it, including Cati or romice, I just don't believe nearly half of the players in this game missed out on a someone stating to rethink their votes if they want to make it through the night for ten hours even with differing time zones. It seems to me that it's equally possible, if not more possible that some of the spies could be saying this to cover themselves.
ETA: Another thing for the Heroes to consider is also just the number of people who are hesitant in voting for Cati versus the number of people who have already voted for Cati.
Right now, in my POV, it's a lot more likely that EDI is among the people who are hesitant in voting for Cati, since the only person who has voted for Cati besides me is Arcadia. It's still a little early to call about EDI's voting still, but this is my first observation about how this voting is heading so far.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 18, 2019 18:36:06 GMT
So, I can be less suspicious, if I vote to Romice? Let's try it – because I still don't have any other tip.
Romice then. I'm not sure, but... anyway, if I will have better clue, I will change my mind.
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Post by romice on Feb 18, 2019 18:43:28 GMT
Honestly, I don't know who to vote for, other than Cati. Now with him voting for me, that's just one more reason.
So I vote for Cati, I guess.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 18, 2019 19:41:26 GMT
I feel like in almost every game, I have voted for cati when he missed some clue or strategy that made me so sure of his guilt, and he usually ended up being a hero. Missing hints is just how he is in this game. I can't bring myself to vote him off for his normal behavior, yet again. Not without better evidence.
Romice is better at picking up clues, though, and missed this one. If we're going with Pela's plan, then so far it looks like the tie breaker is between cati and romice. However, if Pela herself is EDI or a spy, then it is dangerous to go with her top two picks. I still think gervaise's unusual behavior is suspicious, but I can accept "I have mellowed" for now. I don't know who else to go with at this point.
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