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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 23, 2019 19:00:39 GMT
Edit: It could be possible that the other spy is an investigative role, and Aethya's role was revealed to them? I've never heard of an investigative role being on the evil side. Liara was always good in the old game. Probably the same here. The characters description says that Mouse is definitely good and the one for Feron does not have an evil alternative, so I've always assumed he was good too. As far as the lucky guess goes, there are only two roles that are going to be useful if you are in imminent danger of being voted off Aetheyta or Aria. If the spy assumed that the non-specific non-human roles were council races then they had two players to choose between. They get two shots at guessing the role they want and since Aethyta had not been in the previous game may be they were hoping she was in this one. As it happened they were right.
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Post by dragontartare on Oct 24, 2019 1:22:31 GMT
Here's what we have so far:
space - human basia - not human cati - not human dadi - Nyreen dragon - not a council race (choose from Feron, Kal'Reegar, Niftu Cal, Glyph, Charr) OG - not a council race (choose from Feron, Kal'Reegar, Niftu Cal, Glyph, Charr)
Moon - Evil Conrad playing Aethyta fylimar - Dr. Michel gervaise - Bailey
Since Conrad copied Aetheyta, then Aetheyta - whoever gervaise investigated last night - is a hero. It would be good to hear from basia and cati about the question asked of them, but basia hasn't been around for a while now, and cati I don't think has been around since the last voting round.
Also quoting one of gervaise's posts because there's good stuff here to consider.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 24, 2019 12:36:27 GMT
Rereading the narrative over and over, it’s point-blank stated that an agent kills Bailey. Not only “an” agent, but “the last” agent. If Kirrahe (probs butchered that) is in play, he doesn’t seem to have been turned. That literally means there’s just one agent left, considering the Conrad rule. Based off that, there’s no way Aethyta could be the last spy, right? Conrad copied Aethyta’s role- doesn’t that mean Aethyta is a hero? Please correct me Pela if Conrad can copy an evil Aethyta. In case Conrad can’t- Whoever Gervaise investigated did turn up to be Aethyta. Looking over last rounds hints: Basia and Cati, what planet are you from? Sorry for late... so: Thessia
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Post by dragontartare on Oct 25, 2019 0:00:04 GMT
OG, where are you from?
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Oct 25, 2019 8:08:32 GMT
Really? Such a blatant question! *shrug* Irune.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Oct 25, 2019 19:37:38 GMT
Unless Basia is also from Thessia, we can surmise that Cati is innocent. And OG, if non-evil, would be someone we want to keep in the game.
So, I'm tempted to vote Basia seeing as we know next to nothing about their role, and they're also inactive. Two inactive spies don't make any sense to me, however. Unless that's Basia's goal? Lol. Gervaise also made some good points about Space, but.... hmmph. I don't know. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt this round. If shady behavior continues then I'll feel confident about my vote against them.
I'm going to go back over my notes when I return home tonight and cast a vote to get this round going.
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Post by dragontartare on Oct 25, 2019 21:28:26 GMT
Really? Such a blatant question! *shrug* Irune. Plenty of people have been asked that question, so yes, why not? You could have declined to answer if you thought doing so was risky.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 26, 2019 0:41:47 GMT
It's a little bit harder asking for clues in this game because there are limited questions, and most, like the above one, end up being too specific.
If I'm to remain trusting Dragon and Dadi, then the only two players qualified as suspects are Basia and OG from my perspective. Not good choices
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Post by basia on Oct 27, 2019 13:35:15 GMT
Unless Basia is also from Thessia, we can surmise that Cati is innocent. And OG, if non-evil, would be someone we want to keep in the game. So, I'm tempted to vote Basia seeing as we know next to nothing about their role, and they're also inactive. Two inactive spies don't make any sense to me, however. Unless that's Basia's goal? Lol. Gervaise also made some good points about Space, but.... hmmph. I don't know. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt this round. If shady behavior continues then I'll feel confident about my vote against them. I'm going to go back over my notes when I return home tonight and cast a vote to get this round going. I'm not really sure what planet I'm from and that probably gives away my role, but since I have too much going on irl and I'm not active it maybe better for me to just reveal myself so I don't make the heroes' lives harder. I'm extemely sorry for not being active and I promise I do have a reason for not participating much.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 27, 2019 19:20:35 GMT
Based on all the replies thus far (and a bit of applied logic) I think the active roles still in the game are:
Aethyta, Glyph, Kal'Reegar, Mouse/Oriana, Niftu Cal and Nyreen.
Aethyta is definitely good. If Mouse is in the game then he is good but if it is Oriana it is likely she is evil. Glyph is likely good. The other three could be either good or evil. However, if Kal'Reegar is evil then his ability can't harm the heroes as he can't protect himself, Niftu Cal is merely a blocking role but Nyreen could potentially be dangerous during later nights if evil, so probably worth checking out sooner rather than later.
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Post by dragontartare on Oct 28, 2019 3:16:33 GMT
If Kal'Reegar were present, wouldn't the narrative indicate someone was being protected?
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 28, 2019 12:02:52 GMT
If Kal'Reegar were present, wouldn't the narrative indicate someone was being protected?
Well that is up to Pela but if the person wasn't under threat during the night then it wouldn't necessarily be mentioned. I was the person attacked so essentially protecting someone else was a non-event.
My logic for concluding Kal'Reegar is in the game is that of the non-council roles Niftu Cal and Glyph would appear to be accounted for and there seems little evidence of Charr being in play, although I will admit that could be because his love interest has not been in any danger. If Feron is in the game then Mouse isn't and thus that person ought to be looking very hard at Space because he has claimed his home planet as earth and the only other possible role would be Oriana, which to my mind after 2 night-time eliminations must be evil. So as no one seems particularly suspicious of Space, I must assume Feron is not in play. That only leaves Kal'Reegar.
Of course this reasoning does assume that everyone has been telling the truth.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 28, 2019 17:06:03 GMT
Well, now that my probable role has been spelled out, I hope someone is available to protect me. In the mean time, who are we voting for.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 28, 2019 18:44:28 GMT
Well, now that my probable role has been spelled out, I hope someone is available to protect me. I hope so too. Normally I wouldn't be so obvious but once Dr Michel and Bailey were out of the picture I think it was pretty obvious to the spies who you must be. At least this way there is no excuse for the protective roles not keeping you safe and it seems likely there is at least one if not two of those in play.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 28, 2019 21:10:55 GMT
Well, now that my probable role has been spelled out, I hope someone is available to protect me. I hope so too. Normally I wouldn't be so obvious but once Dr Michel and Bailey were out of the picture I think it was pretty obvious to the spies who you must be. At least this way there is no excuse for the protective roles not keeping you safe and it seems likely there is at least one if not two of those in play. Yeah, no point in hiding it. They obviously know I'm not evil Oriana
On that note, I'll mention Dr Fyl protected me, and Cati is 100% innocent.
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Post by dragontartare on Oct 29, 2019 2:01:26 GMT
If Kal'Reegar were present, wouldn't the narrative indicate someone was being protected?
Well that is up to Pela but if the person wasn't under threat during the night then it wouldn't necessarily be mentioned. I was the person attacked so essentially protecting someone else was a non-event.
My logic for concluding Kal'Reegar is in the game is that of the non-council roles Niftu Cal and Glyph would appear to be accounted for and there seems little evidence of Charr being in play, although I will admit that could be because his love interest has not been in any danger. If Feron is in the game then Mouse isn't and thus that person ought to be looking very hard at Space because he has claimed his home planet as earth and the only other possible role would be Oriana, which to my mind after 2 night-time eliminations must be evil. So as no one seems particularly suspicious of Space, I must assume Feron is not in play. That only leaves Kal'Reegar.
Of course this reasoning does assume that everyone has been telling the truth. Ok, I might as well be a bit more explicit: Kal'Reegar is not in play, assuming everyone has been telling the truth.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 29, 2019 8:31:23 GMT
Ok, I might as well be a bit more explicit: Kal'Reegar is not in play, assuming everyone has been telling the truth. Do you agree with the rest of the logic as to which roles are in play?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 29, 2019 11:43:28 GMT
Based on all the replies thus far (and a bit of applied logic) I think the active roles still in the game are: Aethyta, Glyph, Kal'Reegar, Mouse/Oriana, Niftu Cal and Nyreen. Aethyta is definitely good. If Mouse is in the game then he is good but if it is Oriana it is likely she is evil. Glyph is likely good. The other three could be either good or evil. However, if Kal'Reegar is evil then his ability can't harm the heroes as he can't protect himself, Niftu Cal is merely a blocking role but Nyreen could potentially be dangerous during later nights if evil, so probably worth checking out sooner rather than later. We know who those last two players are so if either of them use their abilities it will put them as a spy for the next voting round. So at least there’s that. I don’t get why Dragon is certain Kal isn’t in play. Does he have a twin role that prevents his presence like Mouse and Feron?
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Post by fylimar on Oct 29, 2019 13:02:42 GMT
I'm glad, space is basically cleared without my help.
Tbh I have to look most planets and hints up, because I'm still not that familiar with ME. But I don't know, if it is such a great idea to use such specific informations. I'm pretty sure, gerva and I were targeted, because we answered our questions about being human honestly and a lot of the protective roles and some investigative are human. Hopefully someone will protect space tonight. In the next game, I probably won't answer questions about race or planet.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 29, 2019 13:06:27 GMT
I don’t get why Dragon is certain Kal isn’t in play. Because she knows that I pegged her for Kal'Reegar. So either I got it wrong, she is trying to evade the spies or she is worried about my assertion that you should have protection overnight because she is the spy, so removing you would look bad on Kal'Reegar. Of course there would appear to be another protective role in play, Niftu Cal, although it is possible he has already used his ability. Anyway, take another look at the replies given up to now and you will see that there are only five non-council race roles in the game, one of which is mutually exclusive with Mouse. That leave four potential roles split among three people: Kal'Reegar; Charr; Glyph and Niftu Cal. Romice stated she was not sure which planet she was from, which suggested Glyph to me. OG is from the Volus home planet of Irune, so that leaves either Charr or Kal'Reegar for Dragon. Of course if anyone has lied in their answers then that throws my logic into question but it doesn't seem like Dadi, Cati, OG or Basia have lied, although the willingness to tell the truth when it would put them at risk of elimination overnight might be an indication that one of them is the last spy. That leaves only you and Dragon as players who could be more than one role.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Oct 29, 2019 19:20:27 GMT
Unless Basia is also from Thessia, we can surmise that Cati is innocent. And OG, if non-evil, would be someone we want to keep in the game. So, I'm tempted to vote Basia seeing as we know next to nothing about their role, and they're also inactive. Two inactive spies don't make any sense to me, however. Unless that's Basia's goal? Lol. Gervaise also made some good points about Space, but.... hmmph. I don't know. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt this round. If shady behavior continues then I'll feel confident about my vote against them. I'm going to go back over my notes when I return home tonight and cast a vote to get this round going. I'm not really sure what planet I'm from and that probably gives away my role, but since I have too much going on irl and I'm not active it maybe better for me to just reveal myself so I don't make the heroes' lives harder. I'm extemely sorry for not being active and I promise I do have a reason for not participating much. Please don't worry Basia. This game should be fun and not stress-inducing. You don't need to apologize, and I hope you return as I'd love to have you back. And I must admit I've had a little trouble following this game. I'm so used to the Wolf Hunt characters that I'm having a hard time theorizing with these new ones. I just need a quick day to catch up. I can say this though: IF OG is Niftu and Kal Reeger is not in the game, it's imperative we keep OG so they can protect Space for at least one night. Unless of course OG is evil.
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Post by dragontartare on Oct 30, 2019 1:18:45 GMT
Ok, I might as well be a bit more explicit: Kal'Reegar is not in play, assuming everyone has been telling the truth. Do you agree with the rest of the logic as to which roles are in play? Yes, the rest of it makes sense to me. I'll go ahead and give my hint, since no one seems inclined to ask me questions. My ability would have been directly useful to one player, and indirectly useful to all heroes, but it is now irrelevant. If anyone thinks I'm evil, they should now realize that there is a bigger fish to fry. If they think I'm good, they also know that there are far more important roles still in play. If Nyreen is evil, then we still might end up losing two players in one night, but that would expose dadi as the spy without a doubt. Evil Glyph's special ability would similarly expose the player as undoubtedly the spy. I agree that it is better to not vote off OG, though, just in case she is good and can protect someone.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 30, 2019 10:16:22 GMT
I must say I don't envy you all the decision about who to vote off. It would seem like everyone is waiting for someone else to make the first move. This could be an even longer game than my latest one on Wolf Hunt.
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Post by fylimar on Oct 30, 2019 11:55:21 GMT
I must say I don't envy you all the decision about who to vote off. It would seem like everyone is waiting for someone else to make the first move. This could be an even longer game than my latest one on Wolf Hunt. I agree, I'm glad, I'm dead and don't have to vote
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 30, 2019 12:09:22 GMT
Well the safest choice might be Basia. We could guess her role is glyph, but seeing she hasn’t used the ability to block night activity yet,she could be evil.
I’m not sure Dragons role. Charr? Maybe her “LI” is out already? Another candidate for a sacrifice to get the game moving, but she seems pretty clearly a hero regardless. If Charrs target was moon, does that put Charr in the evil camp despite Moons elimination?
Dadi seems to be a hero. If he’s not, he would reserve his ability until it could do the most damage, and make revealing himself irrelevant.
OG hasn’t used her ability yet. I’m not clear on the use at the moment. However, like Nyreen, using it as an evil would mark her as evil so she would hold on to it. This would be bad for me, as that leaves me without protection. Mind you, not protecting me would mark her side as well.
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