December 14th balance changes - dust off your Savoas

Great. All weapons that I have at X and with variants. Piranha and Rozerad were pretty good already; this is going to make them even better. Eager to try out the buffed out Sovoa; wonder if they fixed the priming issue with it (or would that require a patch?).

Why do they keep buffing the Piranha?!?! It has already been an atrocity since the last buff.

They buffed the Silhesh? Significantly?

WTF!? That thing already fucking melted. Think I had it at VIII when I quit.

I haven't played in a couple of months, but I might dust it off for a few games just for lulz.

Part of me is excited that these changes were made, part of me remembers how hard it is to find a GOOD game now. Will be back with test to give personal on hand input!

Yeah.  Pistol buffs are a really weird thing to do at this point.  I'm not really sure what they're thinking.  The whole point of previous changes was to get a better balance between pistols and long guns.  This kind of screws things up again.  I would have rather seen a buff to the Revenant as well as a reload time reduction to single shot sniper rifles.

ALL test are performed with level X or equivalent variants (since all variants are level X). Gold DIfficulty
All test are done based on a few factors.. Price (URs being worth 1-10M payed on to unlock them), Weapon class comparison, Funtionality (headshot accuracy, stun rate, ect), and overall fun factor scale.

Sovoa Test done with base Sovoa with AR short barrel and AR mag.
Pre patch- Complete trash, not even worth 1M, Great for getting a useless finger workout. Barely a 2
Post patch- No longer trash, would say it can be called an UR and worth 1-3M. A solid 6, not bad at all, but not all that great.
Ronnie's Feelings- Much more single shot assault rifle feeling, but doesn't feel very AoE and can't seem to prime anything. This is imo now the UR variant for those who like using Mattock/sandstorm/halberd type weapons. Special note, that If this weapons "siphon" mode drains well, it will get bumped up a point or 2.

EDIT***After Unlocking the Siphon and actually getting to focus on the performance rather than surviving, I will give this gun alittle more credit. A solid 7 for vanilla 8 for siphon.
Special Note*** Try this weapon out on a turbocharge class like Havoc or Commando with incendiary ammo and full weapon buffs with assault rifle boosters...just don't break your fingers...

Rozerad Siphon III with Pistol Receiver and Pistol Targeting system (no scope accuracy)
Pre patch- Very high DoT, "comparitively" very high accuracy and lightest UR. 9
Post Patch- Ok, don't know who fucked up, but this is now the only auto weapon anyone should use once its unlocked. 10....
Ronnie's Feelings- Soooo yea, this thing primes as fast as the Hurricane now, and has a faster rate of fire and damage and better accuracy than the hurricane... anyone still using the hurricane just does not have this weapon. Period. As for the buff, I can't tell if its because it has a higher STARTING RoF, or if the gun "spools" up faster, or both, but the start-full fire time feels like it was cut in half or more. Also can't tell if the Cap RoF was raised as well. It seems like its shooting much higher than 975. On another note... the gun seems to have "lost" accuracy due to the speed at which it fires co-relating with the accuracy bloom.

Valkyrie with AR short Barrel and AR Receiver
Pre patch- Very Poor comparable DPS, Not reliable offhost, Very accurate, Great Headshot weapon and overall utility. 6(offhost) 8(on with great aim)
Post Patch- Same shit. I couldn't tell there was a patch change... 6-8
Ronnie's Feelings- I actually really really like the valkyrie even though the RoF and actual DPS is trash. The gun is light, reloads fast, and unbreaking P.A.W. diamond accurate. Shooting enemies regularly is meh damage, but headshots drop enemies VERY well. The main reason this gun is on my regular rotation is the siphon "chunks" of HP I get from kills. Gun fills HP bar on the regular.

Naladen Concussive I with SR barrel and -20% weight mod.
Pre patch- Great AoE, Close and long range functionality with no hip penalty, mediocre damage. Worth about 6M and rates about 6-7
Post Patch- The extra damage/force and 15 extra RoF, this gun feels much more comfortable and priceworth. Rate a solid 7 maybe alittle more.
Ronnie's Feelings-I don't use the Naladen much, not really my style, I like to hit hard and move on, and naladen took to long. After patch it feels more bang and move. Not a bad weapon at all, great to use, but not very platinumy. Worth about 7M imo.

I am good with all of these changes! I will be re-looking at each of these weapons.

Glad anyone is doing anything at this point!

Silhesh and Rozerad both seems to "get there" faster now, there meaning enemies faces

Also man that Sovoa blast power, so much stagger! Need to test Piranha and the rest later. This day was just blasting away with silhesh (II), rozerad (VII) and equalizer (X)

So they still decided to do some balance changes. Kind of surprising but it would have been nice if they, oh I don't know, fixed warp's expose evo while they were at it.

The buffs are hilarious, though I'll jump on the "rozard didn't really need the buff but YAY" bandwagon. The other changes are all justified for sure.

The Soned really could use some love, mainly because of how impractical it is on platinum due to high amounts of berserkers in most waves. It's weight also hinders it for my default "carry 2 random scrubs in platinum" class (usually I play operator while buddy plays stealth grid, usually we have to duo 3 waves before a 3rd/4th joins). Soned needs to do 30+% more ramped dps than a hurricane for its cost (weight, ramp up time, accuracy) to be worthwhile. Clip size is not a substitute for dps when a blaze Hydra is running you down while berserkers spam flak.

I'm so glad I moved on. Months for this? It seems completely random. Why the hell did rozerad and silhesh get huge buffs? Why are the buffs to the shitty guns so tiny in comparison? These people are idiots.