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Post by Nightscrawl on Dec 31, 2017 3:15:31 GMT
I'm curious as to the reasoning of other players.
I did end up recruiting him in my current play with the same mindset I use for Blackwall in DAI: serving with me, in a scenario where you could possibly die while saving the world, is atonement. If you pick the correct dialogue options while talking to him in the cage, you find out that he does regret what he did and is ready to accept his death as punishment. I think that's meaningful.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 31, 2017 3:38:21 GMT
The number one reason is that we need all the help we can get, and he's a giant sword-wielding veteran soldier. The second reason I recruit him is pity, because even being executed is better than slowly starving to death and marinating in your own filth until you die. Third reason is atonement. He readily concedes that death is a suitable punishment for him, but it seems a waste for him to die that way when he could die just as well protecting people from the darkspawn and regain some honor in the process.
The fourth reason is shameless meta: I adore Sten and wouldn't want to play Origins without him.
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Post by Catilina on Dec 31, 2017 10:33:03 GMT
I'm curious as to the reasoning of other players. I did end up recruiting him in my current play with the same mindset I use for Blackwall in DAI: serving with me, in a scenario where you could possibly die while saving the world, is atonement. If you pick the correct dialogue options while talking to him in the cage, you find out that he does regret what he did and is ready to accept his death as punishment. I think that's meaningful. Exactly this is my reason as well. A second chance for a man, who regretted what he did (and seems useful). |
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Post by Sokemis on Dec 31, 2017 21:14:47 GMT
The number one reason is that we need all the help we can get, and he's a giant sword-wielding veteran soldier. The second reason I recruit him is pity, because even being executed is better than slowly starving to death and marinating in your own filth until you die. Third reason is atonement. He readily concedes that death is a suitable punishment for him, but it seems a waste for him to die that way when he could die just as well protecting people from the darkspawn and regain some honor in the process. The fourth reason is shameless meta: I adore Sten and wouldn't want to play Origins without him. This, all of this (especially #4  He may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I love Sten's deadpan humor) Also a fifth reason: "I've already got a whiny, 'senior' officer that insists on the newest of recruits making all the decisions, a disapproving Witch of the Wilds, and a stab-happy nun that hears voices... why not a murderous giant".  |
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Post by boxofscreaming on Dec 31, 2017 22:21:13 GMT
Just what Alistair says: qunari have a reputation as good warriors.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 1, 2018 9:03:23 GMT
The fourth reason is shameless meta: I adore Sten and wouldn't want to play Origins without him. This, all of this (especially #4  He may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I love Sten's deadpan humor) I typically need an actual in-game RP reason to justify recruiting or not recruiting someone. If I dislike a character as a player and don't want to recruit them because I dislike them as the player, I'll still want a character RP reason for doing so. I did recruit Sten using the reasons I gave, but I was curious as to other players' reasoning. |
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Post by Tittus on Jan 1, 2018 13:31:54 GMT
The number one reason is that we need all the help we can get, and he's a giant sword-wielding veteran soldier. This much above all else. Politics and war is all about win, and I'm not going to be picky when I have only a bunch of companions to help me cross a dangerous land. No matter what someone did, if they can help in a dare situation so be it. That's also the reason why none of my inquisitors ever banned the wardens. There's always the danger of the next blights and whoever do something extreme against the wardens will have the blood of innocents on their hands. The repentance thing is a personal reason that the Warden gives to Sten. |
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 1, 2018 13:56:16 GMT
The fourth reason is shameless meta: I adore Sten and wouldn't want to play Origins without him. This, all of this (especially #4 He may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I love Sten's deadpan humor) I typically need an actual in-game RP reason to justify recruiting or not recruiting someone. If I dislike a character as a player and don't want to recruit them because I dislike them as the player, I'll still want a character RP reason for doing so. I did recruit Sten using the reasons I gave, but I was curious as to other players' reasoning. So do I, but the fact that I just plain want him around is always in the back of my mind.  |
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Post by Catilina on Jan 1, 2018 16:57:31 GMT
I typically need an actual in-game RP reason to justify recruiting or not recruiting someone. If I dislike a character as a player and don't want to recruit them because I dislike them as the player, I'll still want a character RP reason for doing so. I did recruit Sten using the reasons I gave, but I was curious as to other players' reasoning. So do I, but the fact that I just plain want him around is always in the back of my mind.  Reason to recruit Zevran? (I mean, apart from his gaze is so... persuasive...) |
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 1, 2018 17:09:44 GMT
So do I, but the fact that I just plain want him around is always in the back of my mind. Reason to recruit Zevran? (I mean, apart from his gaze is so... persuasive...) He is very persuasive.  Again, the number one reason and one that's applicable to all Wardens is that we need all the help we can get. Another reason is that he might know more about Loghain than he initially lets on. I've spared him out of a sense of pity or camaraderie ("we were both innocent kids forced to do terrible things to survive" or even "we're both elves and I'm sick of being surrounded by shemlen"), a belief in second chances (Brosca and a kin-slaying Aeducan were criminals given a second chance by Duncan). When Alistair wtf'd at Tabris's decision to take him in, she replied that she was "very susceptible to flattery. Sue me." As with Sten there are a number of reasons one would take that risk, and that's putting aside his spiel about how he's safer with you than he is reporting his failure to the Crows. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 16:44:06 GMT
The alternative is to leave him in the cage, and let the Darkspawn tear him apart. Given that my Warden is nominally considered a criminal who is supposed to redeem him/herself via joining the Grey Wardens, I feel that Sten deserves to face the Darkspawn with his sword in hand. For me, the big draw with Sten is that he fully accepts whatever punishment is meted out & that is gleaned immediately from the dialogue in the cage. In that, he would at a first encounter sound way more honest to me than my own Warden who would have to in most stories go into a longwinded explanation about how s/he is actually an innocent/wrongly accused etc
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Post by mictlantecuhtli on Jan 9, 2018 18:18:16 GMT
I free him just to make Morrigan laugh when I threaten to gut the matron mother.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Jan 9, 2018 19:18:37 GMT
So do I, but the fact that I just plain want him around is always in the back of my mind. Reason to recruit Zevran? (I mean, apart from his gaze is so... persuasive...) Yeah, that's the trickiest one. First time I didn't recruit him because it didn't make sense to me. A mistake in retrospect because I love the guy now. If playing an elf, I just figure it's nice to have another elf around. |
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Post by copper on Jan 10, 2018 23:27:44 GMT
Reason to recruit Zevran? (I mean, apart from his gaze is so... persuasive...) Yeah, that's the trickiest one. First time I didn't recruit him because it didn't make sense to me. A mistake in retrospect because I love the guy now. If playing an elf, I just figure it's nice to have another elf around. I could also see city elves and dwarf commoners sympathizing with Zevran when he says that the crows bought him as a child and that he never chose this path for himself. But yeah otherwise my characters just have a lapse in judgement to have the charming elf join the party. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 23:46:48 GMT
Because of Alistair. Otherwise, I would've probably Ignored Sten because I never use hand-handers in the first place.
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Post by TheHeroOfFerelden on Jan 11, 2018 10:35:45 GMT
The number one reason is that we need all the help we can get, and he's a giant sword-wielding veteran soldier. The second reason I recruit him is pity, because even being executed is better than slowly starving to death and marinating in your own filth until you die. Third reason is atonement. He readily concedes that death is a suitable punishment for him, but it seems a waste for him to die that way when he could die just as well protecting people from the darkspawn and regain some honor in the process. The fourth reason is shameless meta: I adore Sten and wouldn't want to play Origins without him. Vertigomez speaks my mind and heart!  Sten is a precious and trusted friend! I get the idea that my wife has become a bit scared of Sten ,somewhere in the middle of our adventure...Who knows? |
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Post by themikefest on Jan 12, 2018 5:41:14 GMT
For the experience points from doing his quest. Though it isn't much, it does add up.
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Post by heliosdisciple on Jan 13, 2018 1:23:35 GMT
Aeducan considered being a Warden to be a continuation of, not an escape from, his punishment for killing his own brother. Sten's desire for atonement reminds him of his own. Also while he's never seen a Qunari, he's heard the stories of them from Tevinter ambassadors to Orzammar and figures one would be perfect to have on his side against the Blight.
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Post by mousestalker on Jan 13, 2018 2:15:07 GMT
My Tabris, Brosca, Mahariel, Surana and Amell Wardens are rarely out to change the world. They want to stop the Blight. They recruit anyone and everyone willing to help. That includes Sten. My Cousland wardens generally want payback on Howe and the Aeducan ones want to redeem themselves in Orzammar. |
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Post by fylimar on Jan 16, 2018 17:41:30 GMT
The number one reason is that we need all the help we can get, and he's a giant sword-wielding veteran soldier. The second reason I recruit him is pity, because even being executed is better than slowly starving to death and marinating in your own filth until you die. Third reason is atonement. He readily concedes that death is a suitable punishment for him, but it seems a waste for him to die that way when he could die just as well protecting people from the darkspawn and regain some honor in the process. The fourth reason is shameless meta: I adore Sten and wouldn't want to play Origins without him. This, all of this (especially #4 He may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I love Sten's deadpan humor) Also a fifth reason: "I've already got a whiny, 'senior' officer that insists on the newest of recruits making all the decisions, a disapproving Witch of the Wilds, and a stab-happy nun that hears voices... why not a murderous giant". I agree about the fith reason. When I first played DAO and got Ali, Morri and Leli, I thought , the game is trolling me. Dog was my favorite all through Lothering. So I thought, 'why not? The killer can't be worse than what I've already got.' For the records, I'm OK now with Ali and Leli, not my favorites, but OK. |
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Post by Sokemis on Jan 17, 2018 2:20:33 GMT
This, all of this (especially #4  He may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I love Sten's deadpan humor) Also a fifth reason: "I've already got a whiny, 'senior' officer that insists on the newest of recruits making all the decisions, a disapproving Witch of the Wilds, and a stab-happy nun that hears voices... why not a murderous giant".  I agree about the fith reason. When I first played DAO and got Ali, Morri and Leli, I thought , the game is trolling me. Dog was my favorite all through Lothering. So I thought, 'why not? The killer can't be worse than what I've already got.' For the records, I'm OK now with Ali and Leli, not my favorites, but OK. I almost drew the line at the corpse in Awakening, but I have a thing with companions - I like to have the a complete set, even if all they do is sit on the shelf and look pretty (well maybe not pretty in Kristoff's case...) |
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Post by q9j9p on Feb 12, 2018 1:25:19 GMT
Anyone with a powerful swing like that, deserves to be in my team
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Post by mike3207 on Feb 12, 2018 2:15:01 GMT
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Post by phoray on Feb 12, 2018 4:36:04 GMT
Depending on your Origin, you can be a person who killed as needed for many years prior. You could have killed your own brother in a political coup for the Dwarven Empire. Or you could have been whacking folks just for being too late on their payments as part of the Carta. In fact, most of the Origins give you the opportunity for murder.
WE're not all heroes before we became the Hero of Fereldan, and that Herodom was and can be played as merely a battle for survival where you managed to come out on top.
So, as a previous murderer, whether out of survival or plotical expedience... it would be very easy to set Sten go and conscript him into your little army.
What I find the worst is that I can't just set him free altogether and not let him join the party. he's either finding atonement with you, or stubbornly making a prison out of his own iron clad will and won't budge even with the door wide open.
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Post by phoray on Feb 12, 2018 18:34:53 GMT
But sans the "I'm not a lawful good type, so who cares if Sten is lawful good" argument...
I let him join the first time because it never occurred to me that I wouldn't let him. Murdered a farmer's family? hmm, ya, that's a thing. But the game says you're a companion, let's go!
2nd time I was playing a Cousland totally full of herself. It never occurred to her that Sten's history would be a problem for her, just like Zevran trying to kill her wouldn't be a problem. She could handle it all.
3rd time I attempted a Dalish (never finished) but he actually held humans and their law highly suspect. He didn't respect the punishment and... I dunno. "Fuq da police".
4th time: my surana was suuuuuper impressed with his line, paraphrase, "In joining you I will find my atonement."
"What if I don't give you atonement?"
"I will find it myself."
This was all signs of a thinking intelligent being who accepted they'd fucked up and were willing to turn a new leaf. Self Responsible and hadn't tried to make excuses. Also suspected there was more to the murder story than there was presented. Being a mage, she was also sort of anti prison.
5th time: A super dumb Brosca who had the hots for Lel. Lel wasn't happy Sten was in there, and she'd had plenty of friends murder back home, so what was the moral dillemma exactly?
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He may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I love Sten's deadpan humor)
