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Post by thats1evildude on Jan 31, 2018 20:23:58 GMT
Don't be Alex Jones, basically. I don't know, he makes a lot of money off of conning very stupid people. I'd like to have several different Rolexes.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 31, 2018 20:25:01 GMT
I mostly ignore them... Edge-Lord But....does that mean you didn't get the 'walk button' patch for DA:I??? I dunno, but I've never had any problems with bugs or anything.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 31, 2018 20:25:32 GMT
Don't be Alex Jones, basically. I don't know, he makes a lot of money off of conning very stupid people. He does, but that's not necessarily something that we should aspire to being.
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Post by cloud9 on Feb 16, 2018 20:47:17 GMT
So they expect us to just "trust" them? Alr3ady fell for that with Andromeda. Not happening again. I'll believe it when I see It, nothing they say carries any weight with me anymore. It's like BioWare wants to fuck up instead of learning from their mistakes and listen to customers. That is why they are in a position that they're in the first place.
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Post by FireAndBlood on Feb 16, 2018 22:42:54 GMT
Why do you keep necroing threads? Just start your own for god's sake.
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Post by midnight tea on Feb 16, 2018 22:44:56 GMT
Why do you keep necroing threads? Just start your own for god's sake. I think it shows a very sad reality of not having more productive hobbies...
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Post by warden on Feb 16, 2018 22:49:37 GMT
Why do you keep necroing threads? Just start your own for god's sake. I think it shows a very sad reality of not having more productive hobbies... Well, it's not like it seems you have some too, because I see you in every thread.
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Post by midnight tea on Feb 16, 2018 23:21:47 GMT
I think it shows a very sad reality of not having more productive hobbies... Well, it's not like it seems you have some too, because I see you in every thread. Problem with that logic is that I don't happen to be a known troll who haunts dead or dying topics or is generally there to stir sh*t up.
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Post by warden on Feb 16, 2018 23:22:59 GMT
Well, it's not like it seems you have some too, because I see you in every thread. Problem with that logic is that I don't happen to be a known troll who haunts dead or dying topics or is generally there to stir sh*t up. For me it doesn't matter, I don't see the difference.
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Post by midnight tea on Feb 16, 2018 23:26:35 GMT
Problem with that logic is that I don't happen to be a known troll who haunts dead or dying topics or is generally there to stir sh*t up. For me it doesn't matter, I don't see the difference. That's problem with you, not with me. And since you apparently seem to be in the mood to stir unnecessary sh*t up yourself for no reason whatsoever, I welcome you to my silent treatment room.
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Post by warden on Feb 16, 2018 23:29:34 GMT
For me it doesn't matter, I don't see the difference. That's the problem with you, not with me. And since you apparently seem to be in the mood to stir unnecessary sh*t up yourself for no reason whatsoever, I welcome you to my silent treatment room. Not really, you are criticizing a behavior that ironically enough is the exact same thing you do, the only difference is the "trolling".
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Post by Gecko on Feb 17, 2018 1:20:21 GMT
And we're going to end these recent exchanges right here.
I could lock the thread and/or remove posts but I only do that as a last resort...
[X] STAY CLASSY BSN
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Post by midnight tea on Feb 17, 2018 3:35:35 GMT
And we're going to end these recent exchanges right here. I could lock the thread and/or remove posts but I only do that as a last resort... [X] STAY CLASSY BSN You can remove comments as far as I'm concerned. I visited the thread to see what happens because I think there's some room left here for more meaningful discussion.
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Post by phoray on Feb 17, 2018 3:49:19 GMT
Oh yeah, I remember this thread.
I still feel no assurance from his supposed urging. Mass Effect is super different from DA and I hope he just Manages the people resources but otherwise leaves Weekes and his team alone to continue their vision/mission.
Don't know what else to say. It's some PR spin and we have no idea what the fake words mean.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 17, 2018 3:56:21 GMT
Oh yeah, I remember this thread. I still feel no assurance from his supposed urging. Mass Effect is super different from DA and I hope he just Manages the people resources but otherwise leaves Weekes and his team alone to continue their vision/mission. Don't know what else to say. It's some PR spin and we have no idea what the fake words mean. I'm not that concerned.
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Post by cloud9 on Feb 19, 2018 19:00:33 GMT
Bioware chiming in to placate people didn't work on me. Reboot referring to directional changes regarding live services is NOT reassuring whatsoever. I'd bet money on these changes being forced on the devs by EA and nothing good ever comes out of anything EA does to monetize a franchise. And it might very well be why Laidlaw left. Not saying DA4 can't still turn out ok. I never once started DAMP. If I can continue to ignore this sort of stuff, that's fine. But well, let's say I'm not optimistic about Bioware's future under current EA management. Well if the game goes south, they'll be next on the chopping block like Visceral Games.
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Post by thats1evildude on Feb 20, 2018 23:16:52 GMT
I was thinking about this today. From a Dragon Age fan’s perspective, I think it would be best if Anthem was a moderate success, but not a major one.
If it tanks, EA is likely to shutter BioWare and we’ll never get another DA game. But if it’s a massive hit, then EA will force Bioware to abandon Dragon Age and work on more Anthem games.
Best case scenario: Anthem is successful enough for EA to keep BioWare’s doors open, but doesn’t sell so many copies/loot boxes that EA dedicates the studio to making Anthem sequels. Not sure how to wrangle that.
Of course, a moderate hit could still prompt EA to shut down BioWare, since the company’s shareholders are not satisfied with a “decent” profit. But EA would love to kill DA, so I think that’s our best hope.
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Post by phoray on Feb 21, 2018 1:55:14 GMT
So they expect us to just "trust" them? It's like Cloud9 wants to fuck up instead of learning from their mistakes and listen to other fans customers. That is why they are in a position that they're in the first place. Nobody wants to listen to them, they don't even want to see their avatar logoIt's okay, Cloud. You could make a come back if you just committed to changing your ways from this point forward. Just think of your next post carefully. You'd be surprised to see people start taking you seriously, Not immediately see your name and skip your post, or secretly think you're a racist idiot from behind their screens. I believe in you.
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Post by phoray on Feb 21, 2018 1:57:17 GMT
But EA would love to kill DA, so I think that’s our best hope. Why would they love to kill DA? I think someone mentioned it gives them a wider portfolio, and if they're really about the money, so long as a profit is made, they shouldn't care much what the series is about.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 21, 2018 2:16:01 GMT
Why would they love to kill DA? I think someone mentioned it gives them a wider portfolio, and if they're really about the money, so long as a profit is made, they shouldn't care much what the series is about. EA is a horrible company, and I will never give them the benefit of the doubt, but it is worth noting that Dragon Age Inquisition was Biowares most successful game. Ever. As far as Casey Hudson? Hes the biggest corporate white collar prick of them all, so I trust him as far as I can throw him. He's not wrong though. "Live Service" isn't bad in of itself. Its only bad when handled by a company like EA. I just hope they leave whatever that crap is in the multiplayer, and let me enjoy the single player in peace.
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Post by thats1evildude on Feb 21, 2018 4:14:21 GMT
But EA would love to kill DA, so I think that’s our best hope. Why would they love to kill DA? I think someone mentioned it gives them a wider portfolio, and if they're really about the money, so long as a profit is made, they shouldn't care much what the series is about. They just don’t seem to care about it that much, in that they always seem eager to put it aside in favour of other projects. I think that’s because Dragon Age is “only” a well-selling, fairly acclaimed series. Sure, it makes money and earns the odd award, but it’s not Skyrim big or Witcher big or even Final Fantasy big. If a game series can’t earn ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD, then it’s just a waste of time.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 21, 2018 4:22:00 GMT
I was thinking about this today. From a Dragon Age fan’s perspective, I think it would be best if Anthem was a moderate success, but not a major one. If it tanks, EA is likely to shutter BioWare and we’ll never get another DA game. But if it’s a massive hit, then EA will force Bioware to abandon Dragon Age and work on more Anthem games. Best case scenario: Anthem is successful enough for EA to keep BioWare’s doors open, but doesn’t sell so many copies/loot boxes that EA dedicates the studio to making Anthem sequels. Not sure how to wrangle that. Agreed. Either extreme is bad for Bioware. A middling success would be best, and ideally, free of significant controversy. I don't think EA would love to kill DA. While DA may not be the crown jewel of the porfolio, from the perspective of Wall Street, it's also not a dead weight. From a pure business perspective, DA accounts for a decent chunk of earnings whenever they ship a new installment. But the long number of years between those revenue bumps is a real problem. If EA has a problem with DA at all, it would be about earnings growth potential. And EA has taken the usual initial action with that regard just like any other publicly traded company of it's size -- it's cut costs by closing down the Montreal studio and cancelling/mothballing a product line that underperformed. Upshot being, Bioware will have to launch new product lines (Anthem) or expand it's recurring revenue features in DA, in order to grow earnings year over year, and will probably end up doing both. It should be obvious how incredibly hard and expensive it is to launch a new AAA IP these days. An established brand has a lot of value because of that, particularly if you can turn that brand into a recurring revenue platform.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 21, 2018 4:40:11 GMT
I think, it has just been so long, people have forgotten how big the marketing for Dragon Age Inquisition actually was.
This is just how the game industry works. Deathly silence until you have something to show. A release date. Several delays. At least 4 or 5 controversies about gender, sexuality, or race politics. All culminating in a game that needs 20 gigabytes of patches to be playable.
Its a marvelous thing.
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Post by thats1evildude on Feb 21, 2018 6:21:24 GMT
I remember the CGI trailers, the goofy videos with some of the VAs and a few magazine spreads. Were there any TV spots?
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 21, 2018 6:40:46 GMT
I remember the CGI trailers, the goofy videos with some of the VAs and a few magazine spreads. Were there any TV spots? Almost assuredly, but by that point I had long since stopped watching TV. Id also like to point out that they revealed little paragraph teasers for Sera, Dorian, and two other party members before going completely silent for a year. Radio silence is nothing new.
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