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Post by Iakus on Jan 24, 2018 21:29:05 GMT
Only if you want to see Bioware remain in its vampiric form, draining its fanbase of money and trust.. Me, I'd rather see it staked and remember it for what it once was. And I'm sorry but I find that to be a selfish thought. There's nothing that makes it so that you have to bestow any attention upon Bioware or any of its future releases. You can leave the company behind yourself and remember it for what it once was to you. I've done that before. It's what I did with Game of Thrones. It's what I did with the Simpsons. And so on. Wanting the company shut down, its employees out of their jobs and for there to be no more games for those that enjoy them is just plain being a Dutch's Ghost. Yes, I TOTALLY said I wanted to see people put out of work...
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Post by rras1994 on Jan 24, 2018 21:30:52 GMT
And I'm sorry but I find that to be a selfish thought. There's nothing that makes it so that you have to bestow any attention upon Bioware or any of its future releases. You can leave the company behind yourself and remember it for what it once was to you. I've done that before. It's what I did with Game of Thrones. It's what I did with the Simpsons. And so on. Wanting the company shut down, its employees out of their jobs and for there to be no more games for those that enjoy them is just plain being a Dutch's Ghost. Yes, I TOTALLY said I wanted to see people put out of work... What do you think wanting BioWare to be "staked" would result in?
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jan 24, 2018 21:31:11 GMT
Just an FYI, we (Bioware) don't really comment on any unconfirmed information so that is why you won't see much clarification about things like this with any amount of haste. Honestly, most designers wish they could speak more candidly about things because they're usually quite excited about their work but due to the tumultuous nature of gamedev it's just too unstable until you get much closer to launch and things are confirmed for realsies (because you have no time to change them). And, as a reminder, I read most threads here on a pretty regular basis and am cognizant of your feedback whenever working on features or pitches for... whatever it is I'm working on. Then take away this - I and so many here love this franchise so much and are rooting so hard for you all right now. You have no idea how much your games have helped me during periods when I have felt down, and I will always be grateful for the work you have all done. I hope whatever issues you may have now or in the future are resolved smoothly and that you in time can deliver that amazing game I just know you have in mind for us! I'm just going to assume you love bunny-gifs as much as the rest of BSN and give you one!
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 24, 2018 21:33:04 GMT
This is a pretty uninformative piece of ... well, information. I admit that the lack of detail present is useful to feed people's fears though It's quite manipulative against bioware too. He masterfully injects red dye even as he compliments BioWARE. the last paragraph, for one... a wonderful example of turning a positive statement into a negative one. Well from me the statement is 'water is wet' type. A no-brainer. Even without the article, the one thing we can be certain of is that a lot of pressure will be put on Bioware anyhow.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 24, 2018 21:35:23 GMT
Only if you want to see Bioware remain in its vampiric form, draining its fanbase of money and trust.. Me, I'd rather see it staked and remember it for what it once was. And this is a mindset I can never agree with, it’s just spite. just because they aren’t making games self-proclaimed “real fans” like doesn’t mean they aren’t making games some of us still enjoy. Then let me put it this way. I'm not confident Anthem WILL succeed. I see it as something that will further alienate the people you so contemptuously call "real fans" and trying to dive into a market that's already pretty well saturated. I'd rather not see a company (or what's left of it) sink into mediocrity after once upon a time being, as Wolverine said "the best at what they do"
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Post by grallon on Jan 24, 2018 21:37:00 GMT
What a depressing piece of news. They're obviously testing the waters and I don't think anything is etched in stone yet but I don't like the smell of this one bit. At this point BioWare is nothing but a proxy with no initiative whatsoever. They only thing they can still do is keep their ears on the ground so to speak, and relay the reactions to their masters who will disregard such reports, or not.
You don't 'reboot' a franchise that isn't even complete yet! But then again the creators of the Dragon Age 'verse are all gone so who knows where they will go with this. Look what happened to Star Wars in that utter debacle that is Disney's new trilogy. That's a form of reboot I could have done without. All I want is to see the end of the story begun almost 10 years ago.
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As an aside, here's what I'm willing to pay for:
- a recast of DAO - i.e: remake it for the visuals but leave the core game intact - perhaps streamline the combat mechanics; - same thing for DA2 - revamp the visuals and mechanics for uniformity' sake - but *LEAVE THE STORY INTACT*; - I would pay top dollars for a really good (and separate) CC whose creations could be imported into any titles of the series; - I would pay for cosmetic stuff - but I refuse to spend any money for anything that locks the story progression behind artificial gates; - I don't mind if online elements (like in DDogma's) are added - so long as I can get the whole story without having to use such mechanics; - I absolutely refuse to have multiplayer forced on me to complete the story, in any shape or form. If that is the case - EA won't get any money from me.
EDIT: I forgot to mention I would also pay for modding tools. MOdding is the only way to insure a game remains relevant - case in point: Skyrim still alive and well after 7 years.
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Post by shechinah on Jan 24, 2018 21:45:34 GMT
Yes, I TOTALLY said I wanted to see people put out of work... You referred to Bioware as vampiric and you said you'd rather see the company staked. In the most commonly known myths pertaining to vampires, such would render a vampire dead. A dead company do not, to my knowledge, continue to employ and provide work for people.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 24, 2018 21:46:34 GMT
I fucking hate EA, because I just know their new CEO is going to find a way to ruin my favorite franchise. -Kotaku article I wouldn't even call them Disney Villains because that is insulting to Disney Villains because none of the Disney villains are as evil greedy stupid bastards as CEOs of most major corporations are. If CEOs of major corporations don't act like evil greedy stupid bastards then I won't call them evil greedy stupid bastards. It isn't hard.
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Post by rras1994 on Jan 24, 2018 21:54:48 GMT
I wouldn't even call them Disney Villains because that is insulting to Disney Villains because none of the Disney villains are as evil greedy stupid bastards as CEOs of most major corporations are. If CEOs of major corporations don't act like evil greedy stupid bastards then I won't call them evil greedy stupid bastards. It isn't hard. Surprisingly, it's a bit more complicated then being greedy. Almost as if there's some form of "nuance" going on....
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 24, 2018 21:55:44 GMT
I wouldn't even call them Disney Villains because that is insulting to Disney Villains because none of the Disney villains are as evil greedy stupid bastards as CEOs of most major corporations are. If CEOs of major corporations don't act like evil greedy stupid bastards then I won't call them evil greedy stupid bastards. It isn't hard. Well then call them Disney CEO's, lol.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jan 24, 2018 22:02:37 GMT
I have a feeling that DA4 wont be the game I was hoping it to be. Shitpickles. I'm just really really hoping Anthem pulls through and EA doesn't have to inject their money-grubbing poison into DA. Terrified of EA trying to force the devs to make DA4 for the '' mainstream gamer '' audience, instead of the fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 22:25:14 GMT
Well, regardless of what they "reboot" it into, looks like we're definitely not getting DA4 until 2020/2021.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 24, 2018 22:30:49 GMT
Yes, I TOTALLY said I wanted to see people put out of work... You referred to Bioware as vampiric and you said you'd rather see the company staked. In the most commonly known myths pertaining to vampires, such would render a vampire dead. A dead company do not, to my knowledge, continue to employ and provide work for people. Vampires are already dead. They're monsters wearing the faces of someone once alive. Some people take analogy WAY too literally.
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Post by rras1994 on Jan 24, 2018 22:37:24 GMT
You referred to Bioware as vampiric and you said you'd rather see the company staked. In the most commonly known myths pertaining to vampires, such would render a vampire dead. A dead company do not, to my knowledge, continue to employ and provide work for people. Vampires are already dead. They're monsters wearing the faces of someone once alive. Some people take analogy WAY too literally. If people keep taking your post in a certain way, the problem might not be the people.
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 24, 2018 22:37:50 GMT
You referred to Bioware as vampiric and you said you'd rather see the company staked. In the most commonly known myths pertaining to vampires, such would render a vampire dead. A dead company do not, to my knowledge, continue to employ and provide work for people. Vampires are already dead. They're monsters wearing the faces of someone once alive. Some people take analogy WAY too literally. So you just want them to drop the Bioware label?
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 24, 2018 22:40:17 GMT
You referred to Bioware as vampiric and you said you'd rather see the company staked. In the most commonly known myths pertaining to vampires, such would render a vampire dead. A dead company do not, to my knowledge, continue to employ and provide work for people. Vampires are already dead. They're monsters wearing the faces of someone once alive. Some people take analogy WAY too literally. I think some singing is in order...
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Post by alanc9 on Jan 24, 2018 22:41:13 GMT
You referred to Bioware as vampiric and you said you'd rather see the company staked. In the most commonly known myths pertaining to vampires, such would render a vampire dead. A dead company do not, to my knowledge, continue to employ and provide work for people. Vampires are already dead. They're monsters wearing the faces of someone once alive. Some people take analogy WAY too literally. It'd probably be more productive for you to say what you actually want rather than to have an argument about whether your metaphor worked. So, what do you want?
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Post by Iakus on Jan 24, 2018 22:43:23 GMT
Vampires are already dead. They're monsters wearing the faces of someone once alive. Some people take analogy WAY too literally. So you just want them to drop the Bioware label? It would certainly be more honest.
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 24, 2018 22:45:34 GMT
So you just want them to drop the Bioware label? It would certainly be more honest. Only if you believe companies aren’t allowed to evolve.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 24, 2018 22:53:48 GMT
Vampires are already dead. They're monsters wearing the faces of someone once alive. Some people take analogy WAY too literally. It'd probably be more productive for you to say what you actually want rather than to have an argument about whether your metaphor worked. So, what do you want? I want massive single player RPGs in the spirit of Baldur's Gate, KOTOR, and DAO. I want a whole and complete game out of the box. I want to be able to play said games (and any associated expansions/DLC) without an Internet connection. I do not want advertisements for the latest "challenge" or loot box, or leaderboard score ANYWHERE. I do not want any form of player intrusion in my games. Video game playing is IAKUS TIME. If I want to role play with a group, I do tabletop. Not desktop. I am not interested in sparring, trading, avenging, raiding, teaming up, chatting with, or even seeing, another player. Clear enough? My art skills aren't great, but I could try drawing a picture if you think that would help.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 24, 2018 22:55:00 GMT
It would certainly be more honest. Only if you believe companies aren’t allowed to evolve. This isn't evolving.
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Post by Wulfram on Jan 24, 2018 22:57:22 GMT
Sounds more like there won't be another Dragon Age really. Higher-ups don't have much faith in it and by the time they even get serious on making it, it'll be 4 years since DAI was released and the business case will just get weaker as the IP is forgotten.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 24, 2018 23:00:14 GMT
Only if you believe companies aren’t allowed to evolve. This isn't evolving. It is. You just can't accept it. And that's OK. That doesn't mean that what you don't accept is bad or won't stop happening. Gaming as a whole is evolving as well and many things you mentioned above is at the cusp of changing basically across the industry.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 24, 2018 23:01:19 GMT
I want massive single player RPGs in the spirit of Baldur's Gate, KOTOR, and DAO. I want a whole and complete game out of the box. I want to be able to play said games (and any associated expansions/DLC) without an Internet connection. I do not want advertisements for the latest "challenge" or loot box, or leaderboard score ANYWHERE. I do not want any form of player intrusion in my games. Video game playing is IAKUS TIME. If I want to role play with a group, I do tabletop. Not desktop. I am not interested in sparring, trading, avenging, raiding, teaming up, chatting with, or even seeing, another player. I think those ships have sailed... (outside of a few other studios where such games are dwindling in number and mostly disappointing financially)
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jan 24, 2018 23:23:01 GMT
Reboot?!? Like Andromeda rebooted Mass Effect, yes?! We all know how that worked out!
There goes my last shred of hope for DA4... Seriously, this is deeply troubling on so many levels even when we don't know what it all means or if it's even true.
My biggest concern until today's "news" was that if Anthem fails, Bioware will be shut down and DA never concluded. But now I read this reboot nonsense on top of live service bullshit? How badly can EA rape Bioware's corpse before it gets released for burial?!
I want CONCLUSION to the bazillion open mysteries of this franchise, not a fucking reboot;
See they insane now?? This better all be a misunderstanding...
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