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Post by smilesja on Dec 8, 2023 19:56:28 GMT
I'm watching someone play ME3 for the first time, and I really do feel that a lot of the negativity surrounding the game was so overblown. I still have issues with the ending, and some other parts (some of them a bit nit-picky), but overall it really is a good game. It's a shame to see the vitriol still kinda lingers and that new players get a negative view from the game even before they get a chance to see for themselves. The one I'm watching right now is currently loving the game (and the series as a whole of course). On topic, my guess for a release is not before 2028. I want to say 2027, but I doubt anyone is actually doing anything with the game at the moment, and likely won't even start until DAD is out. I’m more worried about Andromeda to be honest.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 9, 2023 0:36:19 GMT
ME3's ending still makes me angry when I think about it.
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Post by Phantom on Dec 9, 2023 1:51:51 GMT
there is plenty of good and bad within ME3. Cerberus Phantoms is what I consider to be my Worthy Opponent.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 9, 2023 3:47:38 GMT
ME3's ending still makes me angry when I think about it. there is plenty of good and bad within ME3. Cerberus Phantoms is what I consider to be my Worthy Opponent. The best worthy opponent is Samantha. She kicked Shepard's a** playing chess. In ME4, Shepard will be seen reading How to win at chess for dummies to get revenge against Traynor.
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Post by Phantom on Dec 9, 2023 4:57:03 GMT
ME3's ending still makes me angry when I think about it. there is plenty of good and bad within ME3. Cerberus Phantoms is what I consider to be my Worthy Opponent. The best worthy opponent is Samantha. She kicked Shepard's a** playing chess. In ME4, Shepard will be seen reading How to win at chess for dummies to get revenge against Traynor. And she is one of the better elements of Me3 including the Cerberus Phantom and the Cerberus Phoenix and Dragoons
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Post by Spectr61 on Dec 12, 2023 18:12:18 GMT
The "good" from ME3 is limited to ME3MP; which is, and remains, a masterclass.
Everything else is, sadly, a masterclass on lost opportunity.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jan 9, 2024 13:33:33 GMT
I entirely disagree with the 'everything else' statement. While I love the entire trilogy, I think the weakest was 1 due to its Crafting system (very tedious and clunky) and while 2 arguably had the best Combat, the slugfest of Planet Scanning was its down point....But 3 I feel was the best combat, story, character development and combat IMO.
I have heard that the MP in 3 is incredible but I cant speak to that as I have no XP
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Post by SwobyJ on Jan 9, 2024 18:18:04 GMT
there is plenty of good and bad within ME3. Cerberus Phantoms is what I consider to be my Worthy Opponent. I liked Phantoms because they felt like they actually reflected the kind of enhancements I'd feel Reaper technology would rapidly provide someone. The troopers were just more Star Wars Stormtroopers and I wish something else was written to support their existence. I didn't believe Cerberus processing and outfitting so many indoc followers this quickly, but I could believe there being many agents 'recruited' anyway.
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Post by Phantom on Jan 9, 2024 19:02:23 GMT
there is plenty of good and bad within ME3. Cerberus Phantoms is what I consider to be my Worthy Opponent. I liked Phantoms because they felt like they actually reflected the kind of enhancements I'd feel Reaper technology would rapidly provide someone. The troopers were just more Star Wars Stormtroopers and I wish something else was written to support their existence. I didn't believe Cerberus processing and outfitting so many indoc followers this quickly, but I could believe there being many agents 'recruited' anyway. That is why themikefest calls them the Keystone cops. if i was going to do a con current mass effect games, The Player Character would have go thru Cerberus Phantom process for many reasons. Of course there have bad ending for indoctrination. I am more curious on the material support within ME3 Cerberus to provide their teams. Indoctrination can convert people. Cerberus did lose a lot of money in rebuilding Shepard and supplying his crew with Me2. In ME: Retribution, Cerberus have several loses in material and personal.
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Post by jrpN7 on Feb 2, 2024 4:23:18 GMT
I'm watching someone play ME3 for the first time, and I really do feel that a lot of the negativity surrounding the game was so overblown. I still have issues with the ending, and some other parts (some of them a bit nit-picky), but overall it really is a good game. It's a shame to see the vitriol still kinda lingers and that new players get a negative view from the game even before they get a chance to see for themselves. The one I'm watching right now is currently loving the game (and the series as a whole of course). Agreed. I just got my boyfriend to play for the first time. He had heard it was an amazing experience, but put it off because of what he heard about the endings. He just finished the Omega DLC and is about to do the Citadel DLC before finishing the game with the mission to retake Earth. He's really enjoyed the ambiance and missions, but says the gameplay could use some work. But in any event, watching him play all I can think about is "damn, why can't games be this good anymore??" Ultimately, he says he is very glad he is playing the game despite the naysayers. He does have ADHD, and unfortunately he struggles with some parts of ME like running around talking to various NPCs on the Citadel and making sure he talks to the squaddies on the Normandy between missions to further dialogue. He actually forgot to activate Legion in ME2 before the Suicide Mission, and then forgot some missions on Rannoch in ME3 before waking the reaper so the whole Quarian/Geth debacle is a bit lost on him. Super devastating if you ask me. Lol.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 2, 2024 4:35:51 GMT
He actually forgot to activate Legion in ME2 before the Suicide Mission, and then forgot some missions on Rannoch in ME3 before waking the reaper so the whole Quarian/Geth debacle is a bit lost on him. Super devastating if you ask me. Lol. He can always replay ME2/3. That is the number one reason why I like the trilogy. It has a lot of replay value.
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Post by garruscalibrator on Feb 6, 2024 8:10:01 GMT
Very few write about The Raloi bird
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Post by hoku on Feb 6, 2024 10:31:56 GMT
other than the 2023 N7 day poster/teaser has this graphic shown up in prior games/comics? It has a lot of Star Trek - Romulan Bird of Prey vibes
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Post by ClarkKent on May 7, 2024 10:55:57 GMT
I don't think that's comparable. Orlais and Kirkwall are essentially next door to ferelden, and all the games are within a few decades of eachother too. It certainly was convenient for Bioware to go slightly further afield as you say, but you can equally argue it was an organic growth of the setting. The DA equivalent would be setting the next Dragon Age after DAD on another continent after wrecking the primary setting and causing a lot of controversy in the process. The DA/ME comparison you gave was good, but not the best, because I'd certainly understand going to another continent after say, a giant Darkspawn War that utterly devastates the main continent. Its actually an understandable thing. Even when ark stuff came up for Mass Effect, I 'got it'. My personal issue was more with how MUCH MEA wanted to distance from the Milky Way. It seemed almost downright shameful about it. It was WEIRD. If the main gist of MEA was instead only the first 1/3 of the game or whatever (isolation, first contact, mysteries, new lore), and we ended up being back in contact and getting all together in a joint venture by the end (even if just with comms for this one game, no bridge), a lot of the weird feeling would have lessened. I really wouldn't be bothered by an Eastern Continent from Thedas story, but I'd be bothered as hell if the story just went, in more minor quests and overall vibe, "That's a ruined place, it kinda sucked and was boring anyway, lets go to new adventure! And barely bother sending missives back to the homeland!" Da fuk? I can tolerate Val Royeaux, Minrathous, Par Vollen being flattened by dragons and Darkspawn and armies of demons (hypothetically) - I draw the line at disregarding Thedas as an irrelevant thing! /community-meme But we know why. Montreal didn't know wtf to do with Milky Way and didn't care to get into it. Okay, but like, can the dialogue calm down about it being a place we may never even hear from ever again? Jesus. It's true an expedition themed Dragaon Age game would actually be quite neat. Lore wise it's actually quite a surprise that Thedas does not have more connection with continents across the ocean. That said, I'd go as far to say a Darkspawn army flattening Thedas still doesn't reach the scale with which Bioware did wreck the ME universe. The three unique flavours of awful put Bioware's writers in a corner where there was little to no escape, and they could only keep digging. And I really agree with your last point, arguably one of the things I disliked most about Andromeda was that the characters were so enthusiastic to discredit the Milky Way Galaxy. When I look at the Milky Way galaxy, pre ending, I see so many parts of it you could explore, and expand further. Indeed, the Milky Way could even have it's own expedition type game about going through dormant Mass Relays to see what's on the other side, and still have that Milky Way depth surrounding it. But of course, we can't go back to the Milky Way for reasons we all know, however, the characters in MEA acting like there was nothing in the Milky Way anyway was a rough bit of dissonance, especially when there was little interesting about Andromeda to grab our attention.
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Post by SwobyJ on May 7, 2024 14:34:45 GMT
I felt I was being messed with. Bioware, I'm already here to try to enjoy your game, you don't need to suggest the Milky Way actually kinda sucked compared to this New and Improved (ha).
It was by the time of MEA and Anthem that I had just about enough of these games trying to make me like something instead of just being something I'd see is worth liking. (So this is not to say they weren't doing this in ME2/DA2/ME3/DAI to some extent, but it was much less noticeable.) The writing of MEA acting like the Milky Way wasn't a worthy setting anymore started to verge into the absurd. I still remember my reaction while playing.
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Post by Croatsky on May 21, 2024 17:42:04 GMT
So Dragon Age Dreadwolf entered production in February 2022. Hit Alpha stage in October 2022. Goal was to release in 2023, but due to significant complications it was delayed to this year. Game is likely to be released this year, between late summer to late autumn. So about 2 years after entering Alpha, 34 months after entering production.
We can assume that Mass Effect team is coming back to the Next Mass Effect around end of summer. NME could enter production before end of the year. Since NME development is suffering far less complications, 2026 release is possible, but 2027 is more likely.
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