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Post by vertigomez on Jan 31, 2018 20:12:40 GMT
I know people bring up the mage thing a lot, but one of the best things about Divine Leliana, to me, is her commitment to making the Chantry a more welcoming place for non-humans. As someone who romanced her with a dwarf and whose Qunquisitor was friends with her, it's especially nice. Yeah, I agree, she easily makes the best Divine because of this. My default Warden is a lady dwarf commoner with Leli as her love too! Nice! I'm currently romancing her as an Aeducan because most of my other dwarves have been casteless. I really like her with dem dorf ladies.
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Post by lostwhisperer on Jan 31, 2018 20:26:20 GMT
Where has Cole hinted about Hawke living? I can't recall myself. I always sacrifice Hawke anyway due to what Flemeth says in DA2.
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Post by yeah rip on Jan 31, 2018 22:05:02 GMT
He said up front that he hates the game, but has to play it anyway. ....sounds like playing the game to me. How do you know he isn't playing the Game by telling you he hates the Game? Neither in the book nor in the video game have I ever NOT seen him playing "The Game". He plays the game when people aren't looking. And he bends his Cheveleir honor whenever it suits him. ...That's what I said. He plays the game because that's how you operate in Orlais (at that time), but it doesn't mean he has to like it. I hated the "game", but still played it to get the Inquisition on Orlais' good graces and get myself a piece of Orlesian land. Well, my character did. Why would Gaspard lie about his attitude towards the game before he even knew the Inquisitor's feelings about it - what if quizzy disagreed? Also some NPCs have commented that Gaspard doesn't like the game. I don't see any reason to not believe him when he says that he hates to "play", but has to. That's not why I picked him anyway, just a bonus. I know people bring up the mage thing a lot, but one of the best things about Divine Leliana, to me, is her commitment to making the Chantry a more welcoming place for non-humans. As someone who romanced her with a dwarf and whose Qunquisitor was friends with her, it's especially nice. I actually don't know how to feel about that. It's nice of her, but that fact that she opens up the chantry for everyone doesn't mean that everyone will actually be welcome there. You can't just erase people's long-lived prejudices by telling them "you gotta". Not every chantry Mother is like Mother Giselle. IIRC, there was only one Mother/Sister in Denerim who agreed to conduct a wedding ceremony for the elves in DAO. Also, restoring Canticle of Shartan - I would be all for it, but how many clerics would really accept it? At best, the new Divine would revert it right back, at worst - Chantry would be divided again, someone would finally succeed at eliminating Leliana and Chantry would collapse on itself. It would be nice if these changes would stick, but the mage thing was still the most important thing for me.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 31, 2018 22:31:28 GMT
I actually don't know how to feel about that. It's nice of her, but that fact that she opens up the chantry for everyone doesn't mean that everyone will actually be welcome there. You can't just erase people's long-lived prejudices by telling them "you gotta". Certainly, but that doesn't mean it's not the right thing to do. Making prejudiced people uncomfortable enough to either 1) question themselves or 2) gtfo is a-okay with me. Hell, Brother Burkel existed, and most city elves are Andrastian. You're going to have some pissy bigots, sure, but Divine Leliana either talks them down or straight-up silences them. Eventually there's not enough dissent, and there are enough ordained non-humans, that that becomes the new status quo and the ones who gripe about it are seen as a dying breed. You see this all the time irl. The second best option to an inclusive Chantry, to me, is in fact a collapsed-in-on-itself Chantry.
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Post by yeah rip on Feb 1, 2018 1:52:34 GMT
I actually don't know how to feel about that. It's nice of her, but that fact that she opens up the chantry for everyone doesn't mean that everyone will actually be welcome there. You can't just erase people's long-lived prejudices by telling them "you gotta". Certainly, but that doesn't mean it's not the right thing to do. Making prejudiced people uncomfortable enough to either 1) question themselves or 2) gtfo is a-okay with me. Hell, Brother Burkel existed, and most city elves are Andrastian. You're going to have some pissy bigots, sure, but Divine Leliana either talks them down or straight-up silences them. Eventually there's not enough dissent, and there are enough ordained non-humans, that that becomes the new status quo and the ones who gripe about it are seen as a dying breed. You see this all the time irl. The second best option to an inclusive Chantry, to me, is in fact a collapsed-in-on-itself Chantry. That's not exactly what I was thinking. I wouldn't care if it made the bigots uncomfortable, but the problem is that they could take their frustrations out on, say, the elves. Elves are about to sink even lower in the general population's eyes either way *spits in Solas' and the Qunari's general directions*, and being permitted into the chantry ierarchy would be seen as pissing where they shouldn't, which wouldn't endear them to humans any more. At best, there will be some snubbing from human clerics, nothing new. At worst - more hate crimes. Leliana could punish the abuses within the chantry (if they would ever actually reach her), but she can't do anything about the possibly escalated abuses outside the chantry. Personally, I think the elves and the Vashoth qunari just want to be respected first of all, not to have an option to run for the Divine. And dwarves just generally don't give a damn, from what I've seen. tl;dr Leliana is forcing the change without laying any foundations for it and it could actually turn very badly for the ones she's trying to help. Things didn't end well for Brother Burkel either. I think most people will be of the "pissy bigots" sort and that wouldn't be so easy to fix with a few assassinations. Slaughtering rivals would only make things worse for her - no matter what the game wants us to believe, Leliana isn't powerful enough to go against the entire southern Thedas. I'm not even touching the "charming everyone into submission" thing - even if Leliana was the craftiest diplomat in the world (which she wasn't), she wouldn't be able to talk down the vast majority of Andrastian Thedas. The problem with the collapsed Chantry would be that the entire southern Thedas would follow. It's been shown that Thedas cannot function without a Divine to hold its hand. It wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if Thedosians eventually learned to take care of themselves, but it would be a long process and they can't afford that with the Qunari invasion at their doorstep (and whatever Solas is doing). If S-Thedas isn't united, the Qunari will take it without breaking a sweat. Otherwise, I actually wouldn't mind a DA equivalent of the Reformation taking place, just not when the qunari are sitting just over the fence, rubbing their hands in anticipation. Honestly, the divine election is ultimately a non-choice. Whoever becomes the Divine, the ending is the same - the Circle and the College glaring at each other. I don't think any other reforms will even get a mention. My Divine will always be Mother Giselle anyway.
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Post by aslightjump on Feb 1, 2018 5:36:10 GMT
I think my (very shallow) problem with Leliana as Divine is that she seems wildly unstable to me. I think her arc in DAI makes sense, but its always been hard for me not to metagame, and the fact that it is in its essence the same arc she went through in DAO re: to harden or not to harden, no matter what your Warden did (or I guess because of what your Warden did in regards to her) it just makes her seem A) very easily led and manipulable, a nunderhead who never learns her lesson and C) as said above, unstable. I've always gotten the feeling that Leliana has no idea who she is or what she really wants, and to its credit I think DAI takes great strides to kinda solidify her character whichever way you choose to go...but it also has three main choices to decide if she will be A Great and Terrible Divine or Her Most Fluffiness and none of them are equivalent nor did they, in my mind, lead into one another smoothly. TL;DR the writing on Leliana is a smidgen schizophrenic, which makes Leliana seems schizophrenic, and its why I'm leery of her on the throne.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 1, 2018 10:45:42 GMT
Certainly, but that doesn't mean it's not the right thing to do. Making prejudiced people uncomfortable enough to either 1) question themselves or 2) gtfo is a-okay with me. Hell, Brother Burkel existed, and most city elves are Andrastian. You're going to have some pissy bigots, sure, but Divine Leliana either talks them down or straight-up silences them. Eventually there's not enough dissent, and there are enough ordained non-humans, that that becomes the new status quo and the ones who gripe about it are seen as a dying breed. You see this all the time irl. The second best option to an inclusive Chantry, to me, is in fact a collapsed-in-on-itself Chantry. That's not exactly what I was thinking. I wouldn't care if it made the bigots uncomfortable, but the problem is that they could take their frustrations out on, say, the elves. Elves are about to sink even lower in the general population's eyes either way *spits in Solas' and the Qunari's general directions*, and being permitted into the chantry ierarchy would be seen as pissing where they shouldn't, which wouldn't endear them to humans any more. At best, there will be some snubbing from human clerics, nothing new. At worst - more hate crimes. Leliana could punish the abuses within the chantry (if they would ever actually reach her), but she can't do anything about the possibly escalated abuses outside the chantry. Personally, I think the elves and the Vashoth qunari just want to be respected first of all, not to have an option to run for the Divine. And dwarves just generally don't give a damn, from what I've seen.
tl;dr Leliana is forcing the change without laying any foundations for it and it could actually turn very badly for the ones she's trying to help.
Things didn't end well for Brother Burkel either.
I think most people will be of the "pissy bigots" sort and that wouldn't be so easy to fix with a few assassinations. Slaughtering rivals would only make things worse for her - no matter what the game wants us to believe, Leliana isn't powerful enough to go against the entire southern Thedas. I'm not even touching the "charming everyone into submission" thing - even if Leliana was the craftiest diplomat in the world (which she wasn't), she wouldn't be able to talk down the vast majority of Andrastian Thedas.
The problem with the collapsed Chantry would be that the entire southern Thedas would follow. It's been shown that Thedas cannot function without a Divine to hold its hand. It wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if Thedosians eventually learned to take care of themselves, but it would be a long process and they can't afford that with the Qunari invasion at their doorstep (and whatever Solas is doing). If S-Thedas isn't united, the Qunari will take it without breaking a sweat. Otherwise, I actually wouldn't mind a DA equivalent of the Reformation taking place, just not when the qunari are sitting just over the fence, rubbing their hands in anticipation.
Honestly, the divine election is ultimately a non-choice. Whoever becomes the Divine, the ending is the same - the Circle and the College glaring at each other. I don't think any other reforms will even get a mention. My Divine will always be Mother Giselle anyway. After a world-chaos, the best time for the radical changes, to fear from it, just cowardice. If anyone wants radical changes, Leliana is his/her Divine without compromise. Cassandra's good choice to a (more) conservative Inquisitor.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 16:22:33 GMT
Certainly, but that doesn't mean it's not the right thing to do. Making prejudiced people uncomfortable enough to either 1) question themselves or 2) gtfo is a-okay with me. Hell, Brother Burkel existed, and most city elves are Andrastian. You're going to have some pissy bigots, sure, but Divine Leliana either talks them down or straight-up silences them. Eventually there's not enough dissent, and there are enough ordained non-humans, that that becomes the new status quo and the ones who gripe about it are seen as a dying breed. You see this all the time irl. The second best option to an inclusive Chantry, to me, is in fact a collapsed-in-on-itself Chantry. That's not exactly what I was thinking. I wouldn't care if it made the bigots uncomfortable, but the problem is that they could take their frustrations out on, say, the elves. Elves are about to sink even lower in the general population's eyes either way *spits in Solas' and the Qunari's general directions*, and being permitted into the chantry ierarchy would be seen as pissing where they shouldn't, which wouldn't endear them to humans any more. At best, there will be some snubbing from human clerics, nothing new. At worst - more hate crimes. Leliana could punish the abuses within the chantry (if they would ever actually reach her), but she can't do anything about the possibly escalated abuses outside the chantry. Personally, I think the elves and the Vashoth qunari just want to be respected first of all, not to have an option to run for the Divine. And dwarves just generally don't give a damn, from what I've seen. tl;dr Leliana is forcing the change without laying any foundations for it and it could actually turn very badly for the ones she's trying to help. <iframe width="12.259999999999991" height="12.56000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 12.26px; height: 12.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 560px; top: -588px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_63933291"></iframe> <iframe width="12.259999999999991" height="12.56000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 12.26px; height: 12.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: -23px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_18848799"></iframe> <iframe width="12.259999999999991" height="12.56000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 12.26px; height: 12.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 560px; top: -23px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_34468786"></iframe> Crimes against elves were already happening on a regular basis in Thedas, even before Solas, which is why the change is needed. Making Leliana Divine at least makes it clear to everyone that She and the Chantry (and Briala and the Inquisitor) will be there to back up the elves and the mages when the conflict inevitably comes, instead of being against them as the Chantry has been in the past.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 1, 2018 16:34:11 GMT
That's not exactly what I was thinking. I wouldn't care if it made the bigots uncomfortable, but the problem is that they could take their frustrations out on, say, the elves. Elves are about to sink even lower in the general population's eyes either way *spits in Solas' and the Qunari's general directions*, and being permitted into the chantry ierarchy would be seen as pissing where they shouldn't, which wouldn't endear them to humans any more. At best, there will be some snubbing from human clerics, nothing new. At worst - more hate crimes. Leliana could punish the abuses within the chantry (if they would ever actually reach her), but she can't do anything about the possibly escalated abuses outside the chantry. Personally, I think the elves and the Vashoth qunari just want to be respected first of all, not to have an option to run for the Divine. And dwarves just generally don't give a damn, from what I've seen. tl;dr Leliana is forcing the change without laying any foundations for it and it could actually turn very badly for the ones she's trying to help. The crimes you mention against elves were already happening on a fairly regular basis in Thedas, even before Solas, which is why the change is needed. Making Leliana Divine at least makes it clear to everyone that She and the Chantry (and Briala and the Inquisitor) will be there to back up the elves and the mages, instead of being against them as the Chantry has been in the past. Weirdly enough, Sebastian comes to mind. In response to Tallis... existing, he laments that "the Chantry has failed the elves" and that's why they turn to the Qun (and now to Solas). Aside from being the right thing to do, I think it's smart of Leliana to guarantee elves (and dwarves and qunari and mages) a voice in her Chantry. City elves are less likely to defect to the Qun, southern mages are less likely to idolize Tevinter... because they know they have a place in southern Thedas.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 16:40:48 GMT
The crimes you mention against elves were already happening on a fairly regular basis in Thedas, even before Solas, which is why the change is needed. Making Leliana Divine at least makes it clear to everyone that She and the Chantry (and Briala and the Inquisitor) will be there to back up the elves and the mages, instead of being against them as the Chantry has been in the past. Weirdly enough, Sebastian comes to mind. In response to Tallis... existing, he laments that "the Chantry has failed the elves" and that's why they turn to the Qun (and now to Solas). Aside from being the right thing to do, I think it's smart of Leliana to guarantee elves (and dwarves and qunari and mages) a voice in her Chantry. City elves are less likely to defect to the Qun, southern mages are less likely to idolize Tevinter... because they know they have a place in southern Thedas. Exactly, there are so many groups of people who don't have a place to go for protection and support.
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Post by CosmicGnosis on Feb 1, 2018 23:31:51 GMT
Another issue I'm struggling with is the concept of "diversity of protagonists" within my world-state. Does it really make sense for all of my canonical heroes to be male mages? Is that probable? Is that boring? I like elves a lot, so maybe I should canonize Mahariel or Lavellan? But I really like Amell and Hawke being related, and Mage Hawke makes a lot of sense. I also like the political intrigue of Cousland. Oh my god. I'm starting to question everything.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 1, 2018 23:55:37 GMT
Another issue I'm struggling with is the concept of "diversity of protagonists" within my world-state. Does it really make sense for all of my canonical heroes to be male mages? Is that probable? Is that boring? I like elves a lot, so maybe I should canonize Mahariel or Lavellan? But I really like Amell and Hawke being related, and Mage Hawke makes a lot of sense. I also like the political intrigue of Cousland. Oh my god. I'm starting to question everything. I do this a lot, too. Some people like to make their protagonists very similar - say, three female human mages who romance warriors, or something like that - but I'm like THEY'VE GOTTA BE DIFFERENT. So as of this moment, my canon is f!Brosca, m!Hawke, f!Adaar. But I think if you really like the Amell connection, there's no harm in going for that! You could do that plus an Inquisitor Lavellan since you also like elves. Or have your Mahariel in DAO provide a connection to DA2 through Merrill (and DAI through the eluvians). So many possibilities. My only advice is to play a mixture of something that 1) you enjoy and that 2) you find narratively interesting.
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Post by Lazarillo on Feb 2, 2018 0:07:53 GMT
Another issue I'm struggling with is the concept of "diversity of protagonists" within my world-state. Does it really make sense for all of my canonical heroes to be male mages? Is that probable? Is that boring? I like elves a lot, so maybe I should canonize Mahariel or Lavellan? But I really like Amell and Hawke being related, and Mage Hawke makes a lot of sense. I also like the political intrigue of Cousland. I have this weird compulsion to make my characters different, but not too different. So when I put together world states, for example, I'll avoid combining a Warden/Hawke/Inquisitor who are all the same class, but I'll also avoid having them each be a different class. Same with race (and gender, though you can't exactly make all three characters a different gender anyway). That makes the whole "Hawke must be human" thing especially tricky for me, because it means that either the Warden has to be human, or the Warden and Inquisitor have to be the same race.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 2, 2018 0:19:21 GMT
Another issue I'm struggling with is the concept of "diversity of protagonists" within my world-state. Does it really make sense for all of my canonical heroes to be male mages? Is that probable? Is that boring? I like elves a lot, so maybe I should canonize Mahariel or Lavellan? But I really like Amell and Hawke being related, and Mage Hawke makes a lot of sense. I also like the political intrigue of Cousland. I have this weird compulsion to make my characters different, but not too different. So when I put together world states, for example, I'll avoid combining a Warden/Hawke/Inquisitor who are all the same class, but I'll also avoid having them each be a different class. Same with race (and gender, though you can't exactly make all three characters a different gender anyway). That makes the whole "Hawke must be human" thing especially tricky for me, because it means that either the Warden has to be human, or the Warden and Inquisitor have to be the same race. I did the class-based version of this, where my Hawke and Adaar different races, different genders... but they're both mages and former mercenaries in same-sex relationships with mage-wary elves. Different, but not too different. lmao i'm just glad i'm not alone
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Post by warden on Feb 2, 2018 1:10:12 GMT
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Post by CosmicGnosis on Feb 2, 2018 1:56:02 GMT
So I've just rewatched a few key scenes from Dragon Age II, and I think Samson and the Red Templars actually do link back to that story quite well. Also, Samson's sword is actually the same one that Meredith wielded (awesome detail). So I suppose the mage side is filled with more cameos and references than the templar side. When framed in this way, perhaps it's only fair that the templar side have something that stands out, and that's Calpernia.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 2, 2018 2:00:12 GMT
I always try to have Cass as Divine and have never had an Orlesian twosome or threesome for that matter. Next playthrough I may try that one! \ Can anyone tell me about which Leliana is which type of Divine, and what decisions do you have tomake to get Leliana to be one way or the other? Steeled Leliana: kills, before asks. Inspired Leliana: asks, before kills. This is the difference. Both are good, if the Inquisitor wants radical changes: the Steeled one inclined to the quick, murderous solutions against the enemies, the Inspired one rather negotiate s, before uses violent means. Leliana's reforms: everyone will be able to become a cleric, no matter the race, gender etc, free the mages, and let the College of Enchanters deal with the mage issues. Here the guide, how can she be Inspired. This is better for her.
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I recruit the Templars. Lore-wise, it makes sense: The Breach is a Fade tear, just one on a huge scale. There are ways to mend rifts in the Fade, We know demons can do it, and we know templars can do it. Thus having them on my side made sense. How were the mages supposed to help? Drop magic on the Anchor like filling a bucket with water? Didn't make much sense to me. I place Gaspard alone on the throne. I would have liked the idea of making him ally with Briala, but they can only work together through blackmail, and that's not stable. Otherwise, Celene is incompetent, and Briala isn't important. The mages have many anti-magic spells and know more about the Fade than the Templars. What makes you say that? Even if that were true, what makes you think that is as important as shutting the Breach? Research can happen after the world is safe.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 4, 2018 8:21:43 GMT
The mages have many anti-magic spells and know more about the Fade than the Templars. What makes you say that? Even if that were true, what makes you think that is as important as shutting the Breach? Research can happen after the world is safe. Templars also can't shut the Breach, only the Inquisitor can.
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What makes you say that? Even if that were true, what makes you think that is as important as shutting the Breach? Research can happen after the world is safe. Templars also can't shut the Breach, only the Inquisitor can. Templars can shut rifts in the Fade, it is merely the scale of the Breach that requires the anchor.
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Post by melbella on Feb 4, 2018 17:12:47 GMT
Templars also can't shut the Breach, only the Inquisitor can. Templars can shut rifts in the Fade, it is merely the scale of the Breach that requires the anchor. Since when?
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Post by Catilina on Feb 4, 2018 18:05:56 GMT
Templars also can't shut the Breach, only the Inquisitor can. Templars can shut rifts in the Fade, it is merely the scale of the Breach that requires the anchor. Just as the Mages. With Inquisitor. Templars have nothing plus compared to the mages.
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Post by duskwanderer on Feb 4, 2018 18:32:35 GMT
Templars can shut rifts in the Fade, it is merely the scale of the Breach that requires the anchor. Since when? Sealing holes in the Fade is part of what they do. Cullen mentions it in the very beginning of Inquisition.
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Post by duskwanderer on Feb 4, 2018 18:33:43 GMT
Templars can shut rifts in the Fade, it is merely the scale of the Breach that requires the anchor. Just as the Mages. With Inquisitor. Templars have nothing plus compared to the mages. How? That's the problem, nothing is ever explained as to why the rebel mages might be needed. Plus, I get a large army trained to fight demons. I could use that when fighting an army of demons.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 4, 2018 18:41:41 GMT
Just as the Mages. With Inquisitor. Templars have nothing plus compared to the mages. How? That's the problem, nothing is ever explained as to why the rebel mages might be needed. Plus, I get a large army trained to fight demons. I could use that when fighting an army of demons. Anti-magic spells. Cassandra also suggests they need to the Inquisition. Mages are also trained to fight demons, more than the Templars, from their childhood.
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