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Post by goishen on Feb 15, 2020 20:07:50 GMT
Also, some of those marketing materials were spot on. [snip] Tell me in that video that there is not a character you'd like to be. Even to this day, I'm still excited whenever I see this trailer. Right place at the right time. I didn't want to play singleplayer after finishing it for the 1st time so I sank all my time into multiplayer. Then when I was finally ready to do another singleplayer playthough, I'd get Shepard off Earth then rank all my humans on MP to 20, get the Primarch then rank my Turians to 20 etc. When my entire MP roster hit 20 I was ready to take back Earth. Inquisition and Andromeda MP were meh since Inquisition singleplayer allowed me to play all the races and I didn't care enough about Andromeda's story enough to bother with MP. I didn't care enough about MEA to finish it. First world problems, all over the place. Although I suppose it was a huge fuck you to the management at BioWare. Think about it, when they finally reach the Ark, it's plagued by mismanagement and then we roll in and save the day. My analogy kind'a breaks down right there. But meh, all analogies break down at some point.
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Post by Sartoz on Feb 17, 2020 12:52:24 GMT
E3 is coming June 9th.
The exhibitors list as of now:
Bandai Namco Entertainment Bethesda Capcom Hori Microsoft NDreams Nintendo Nvidia Oculus Sega Square Enix Take-Two Interactive Ubisoft Warner Bros. Interactive
No Bio, no EA. Perhaps EA will have their side show EA-Play. What can EA offer besides its sports games?
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 17, 2020 19:50:14 GMT
EA did their own thing with EA Play for 4 years now, so there really is nothing new or special about them not being in the exhibitor's list. What titles they'll have? Good question. Last year Fallen Order was the big thing that we didn't really hear about until shortly before April. So with any luck, we might see something new that we have no idea about yet.
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Post by Polka Dot on Feb 19, 2020 1:19:05 GMT
I don't know what happened when the author of evostrix article copy pasted this excerpt from Drew Karpyshyn's blog, but the original isn't written in all-caps "engrish". Here's the original " I’ve been in the video game industry for twenty years now. When I started at BioWare, everything was fresh and exciting. It was a dream job – talented people working together to create epic games like Baldur’s Gate, KOTOR, Mass Effect and Dragon Age. But as we grew and became more successful, things changed. We became more corporate. We were less able to make what we loved, and the teams were pushed to create games based on market research rather than our creative instincts and passions. My dream job became just a job, and I lost the enthusiasm and excitement I once had." drewkarpyshyn.com/c/?p=1089 A lot of that, I think, has to do with AAA expectations. Players of AAA games today expect games to meet awfully high standards in cinematic terms - the resolution, the mo-capped and/or hand-tweaked animations cooked to perfection, loads of options and choices and... the costs of producing this stuff has grown exponentially with the technical advancements and expectations. And if anything isn't cooked to perfection, it'll be memed to death. Meanwhile, some indies / crowdfunded efforts are doing a great job producing excellent isometric games - but not everyone is interested in them. My point is that AAA game budgets have gotten enormous, thus the suits putting loads of money on the line are injecting their monetary concerns into the process a whole lot more than they did in the past.
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Post by jclosed on Mar 28, 2020 15:30:58 GMT
Wow - This place is really a graveyard. The last post on this thread is more than a month old. Well - I guess unless something spectacular is happening, this game is at the end of the line.
They better put it out of it's misery, and concentrate on a real single player game. You know - That type of game the majority of people playing Bioware games wanted to see in the first place.
Ah.. Who am I fooling... That won't happen for years.. If ever..
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Post by smilesja on Mar 28, 2020 17:17:11 GMT
Wow - This place is really a graveyard. The last post on this thread is more than a month old. Well - I guess unless something spectacular is happening, this game is at the end of the line. They better put it out of it's misery, and concentrate on a real single player game. You know - That type of game the majority of people playing Bioware games wanted to see in the first place. Ah.. Who am I fooling... That won't happen for years.. If ever.. The Skepticism thread doesn't represent the entire sub forum you know?
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Post by saandrig on Mar 30, 2020 6:16:04 GMT
Wow - This place is really a graveyard. The last post on this thread is more than a month old. Well, we kinda need some Bioware communication or game update in order to discuss it here. If they don't do anything for months, what should we talk about? Anthem 2.0? Yeah, next year perhaps.
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Post by tatann on Mar 30, 2020 6:43:23 GMT
Wow - This place is really a graveyard. The last post on this thread is more than a month old. Well - I guess unless something spectacular is happening, this game is at the end of the line. They better put it out of it's misery, and concentrate on a real single player game. You know - That type of game the majority of people playing Bioware games wanted to see in the first place. Ah.. Who am I fooling... That won't happen for years.. If ever.. The Skepticism thread doesn't represent the entire sub forum you know? Except it kinda does, considering besides the "automatic" filling of both Twitter threads (sorry Grinch, I know you're not a bot), only 2 other threads have been updated, and even the "today in Anthem" had no single post for 2 weeks until last weekend
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Post by smilesja on Mar 31, 2020 6:07:56 GMT
The Skepticism thread doesn't represent the entire sub forum you know? Except it kinda does, considering besides the "automatic" filling of both Twitter threads (sorry Grinch, I know you're not a bot), only 2 other threads have been updated, and even the "today in Anthem" had no single post for 2 weeks until last weekend But the Today in Anthem thread has been updated more constantly than the Skepticism thread. As mentioned before, it's been a month since this thread has been updated.
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Post by jclosed on Mar 31, 2020 11:03:15 GMT
Even the "Today in Anthem" thread is updated very sparsely. For a game that should be considered to be "alive" I say that's simply too little and too far in between. Sure - There will be some die-hards that are posting now and then, but you cannot call this Anthem part of the forum by any means alive and healthy.
Bioware should have stayed with the stuff they could handle. Going for the next multiplayer game in a market that's already crowded and filled to the brim was a wast of time. And by pouring all their top-tier developers into Anthem while neglecting their single player roots (That resulted in a underdeveloped and abandoned Mass Effect Andromeda), they archived a failure on both fronts.
Anyway - If you still call this Anthem forum part (and the game) alive and well, then I am afraid there is nothing left for me to say here.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 31, 2020 21:48:45 GMT
Never said that it was alive and healthy obviously Bioware has more work to do with the game but they don't wouldn't waste their time if people aren't playing it and I don't consider ME: A a failure though .
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Post by jclosed on Apr 1, 2020 15:06:54 GMT
Oh - Don't get me wrong. I never said Andromeda was a failure. As a matter of fact - I really liked that game. However - There is no denying the game was under-developped and buggy at launch. And the fact that they abandoned the game (no DLC's / story-expansions that where badly needed, because the story simply was not finished. There was a complete ship with mixed crew missing) made me angry (to use an understatement).
If they had given Andromeda the same amount of attention and good developers as Anthem was given, they at least had (in my humble opinion) one game that was good. Now they only have two half-baked games, that most people do not even care about. That includes the old fan base, and that is probably the most sad thing...
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Post by tatann on Apr 1, 2020 18:30:25 GMT
Except it kinda does, considering besides the "automatic" filling of both Twitter threads (sorry Grinch, I know you're not a bot), only 2 other threads have been updated, and even the "today in Anthem" had no single post for 2 weeks until last weekend But the Today in Anthem thread has been updated more constantly than the Skepticism thread. As mentioned before, it's been a month since this thread has been updated. Congrats then, no post in 2 weeks is quote representative of the state of Anthem so I guess it was an homage and I didt get it
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Post by Dazzle on Apr 14, 2020 4:00:14 GMT
I saw a clip of someone flying through a valley in Anthem today and it almost made me want to play. I’m a solo rp’er though and I really don’t know if there’s enough story to make it worth it.
Anyone willing to help me decide?
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Post by DoctorDAM on Apr 14, 2020 17:04:17 GMT
I saw a clip of someone flying through a valley in Anthem today and it almost made me want to play. I’m a solo rp’er though and I really don’t know if there’s enough story to make it worth it. Anyone willing to help me decide? It's $9 on Origin right now. While it has been cheaper, I'd still say it is worth it at that. I'm a solo RPG'r as well (but not role-player). The story isn't great, and not terribly long, but it's ... okay. The real selling point is the flying and combat. It uses a combos like ME3 (well, closer to MEA as each has a separate cooldown). They really nailed the combat. Where it falls short are: limited mission types, limited (and uninspired) enemy types, javelins, maps, etc. Not a ton of content, but enough with additions since release (being recycled now) for a while (to L30 at least).
Not a rave recommendation. But I'd say if you like a mix of RPG and some looter-shooter (or just ME3/MEA MP), you'll probably find you'll easily get your $9 worth.
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Post by Dazzle on Apr 14, 2020 18:59:06 GMT
I saw a clip of someone flying through a valley in Anthem today and it almost made me want to play. I’m a solo rp’er though and I really don’t know if there’s enough story to make it worth it. Anyone willing to help me decide? It's $9 on Origin right now. While it has been cheaper, I'd still say it is worth it at that. I'm a solo RPG'r as well (but not role-player). The story isn't great, and not terribly long, but it's ... okay. The real selling point is the flying and combat. It uses a combos like ME3 (well, closer to MEA as each has a separate cooldown). They really nailed the combat. Where it falls short are: limited mission types, limited (and uninspired) enemy types, javelins, maps, etc. Not a ton of content, but enough with additions since release (being recycled now) for a while (to L30 at least).
Not a rave recommendation. But I'd say if you like a mix of RPG and some looter-shooter (or just ME3/MEA MP), you'll probably find you'll easily get your $9 worth.
Thank you! It's honest, which is exactly what I was looking for. I appreciate you taking the time.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 15, 2020 20:27:56 GMT
I saw a clip of someone flying through a valley in Anthem today and it almost made me want to play. I’m a solo rp’er though and I really don’t know if there’s enough story to make it worth it. Anyone willing to help me decide?
$9 bucks with EA's Origins launcher is worth a few hours of play. Don't expect a deep story like the Mass Effect of the Dragon Age series. Once the grinding becomes a drag, you've exhausted the nine dollar fun value.
However, the uptick is that, maybe, Anthem 2 will be free for the Anthem 1 players. Bio told the gaming community it is re-designing this game 'cause they admitted (not in so many words) Anthem 1 was a failure.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 16, 2020 23:20:17 GMT
I saw a clip of someone flying through a valley in Anthem today and it almost made me want to play. I’m a solo rp’er though and I really don’t know if there’s enough story to make it worth it. Anyone willing to help me decide? This isn't the best thread to go to. Might I suggest the today in Anthem thread? There are players who have plenty of experience and will gladly help you.
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Post by Dazzle on Apr 19, 2020 21:43:13 GMT
I saw a clip of someone flying through a valley in Anthem today and it almost made me want to play. I’m a solo rp’er though and I really don’t know if there’s enough story to make it worth it. Anyone willing to help me decide? This isn't the best thread to go to. Might I suggest the today in Anthem thread? There are players who have plenty of experience and will gladly help you. I figured I’d get the most honest response here. People who like it will uptalk the game, and I was just looking for a brutal critque to help me make up my mind.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 19, 2020 22:30:49 GMT
This isn't the best thread to go to. Might I suggest the today in Anthem thread? There are players who have plenty of experience and will gladly help you. I figured I’d get the most honest response here. People who like it will uptalk the game, and I was just looking for a brutal critque to help me make up my mind. Brutal critique doesn't necessary mean honest. I mean like you said, people who like it will uptalk the game but people who dislike it will be the opposite.
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Post by Gileadan on Apr 20, 2020 7:14:09 GMT
This isn't the best thread to go to. Might I suggest the today in Anthem thread? There are players who have plenty of experience and will gladly help you. I figured I’d get the most honest response here. People who like it will uptalk the game, and I was just looking for a brutal critque to help me make up my mind. I suspect many people posting in this thread haven't played the full game, but many will have played the demo. That's what I did, and the impression that demo gave us may no longer be completely correct. I really liked the flying mechanics and feeling but felt that Anthem has limited value for a solo RPer. You can play the storyline solo, but the game will keep reminding you that this is a poor choice and you should be playing in a group. Also, there was only one story quest (consisting of three missions if I remember correctly) in the demo which had about the depth and quality of a good Andromeda side quest. Whether that is good or bad depends on your tastes and preferences. The loot, if you care about that aspect, was utterly boring, looking like everything came from the same manufacturer or even the same product line (military small arms with cloth wrap somewhere). But take this with a grain of salt since I didn't play the full game.
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Post by DoctorDAM on Apr 20, 2020 21:07:18 GMT
I suspect many people posting in this thread haven't played the full game, but many will have played the demo. That's what I did, and the impression that demo gave us may no longer be completely correct. I really liked the flying mechanics and feeling but felt that Anthem has limited value for a solo RPer. You can play the storyline solo, but the game will keep reminding you that this is a poor choice and you should be playing in a group. Also, there was only one story quest (consisting of three missions if I remember correctly) in the demo which had about the depth and quality of a good Andromeda side quest. Whether that is good or bad depends on your tastes and preferences. The loot, if you care about that aspect, was utterly boring, looking like everything came from the same manufacturer or even the same product line (military small arms with cloth wrap somewhere). But take this with a grain of salt since I didn't play the full game. I think you got a fair read from just playing the demo. I'm assuming that was the 10 hr trial? Taking on a few of your points:
"limited value as a solo RP'er" I already posted my views, and agreed.
"the game will keep reminding you that this is a poor choice and you should be playing in a group"
Yes, yes, a hundred times YES! Annoying. Having said that, it is easy to play the main campaign and side missions solo. Totally fine ... except for the padding in the early-middle where they literally force you to freeplay (which puts you in with 3 rando's who you can totally ignore). It's a grind put in just to (1) force coop and (2) pad. They did tone it down measurably from release, so it isn't that horrible.
"there was only one story quest [...] in the demo which had about the depth and quality of a good Andromeda side quest."
To be fair, the demo (at least the one I played) only had that story quest set (Matthias). Dax's side quests are about as good. And the main campaign is really okay. It just isn't ME quality. And there are a few funny lesser NPC's (Rythe comes to mind). Actually, the NPC's have a lot more personality than your character.
Loot - I'm not a big looter shooter fan. But I just finished Division 2, and yeah, they do it better. Though Anthem's campaign is better.
My overall view mirrors a lot of others: they just didn't successfully meld RPG with open world + looter-shooter. Companies keep trying, and it seems most(?) of us would just rather they stick with one, or the other. In the case of BW, the former.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 21, 2020 16:35:00 GMT
Big Snip
My overall view mirrors a lot of others: they just didn't successfully meld RPG with open world + looter-shooter. Companies keep trying, and it seems most(?) of us would just rather they stick with one, or the other. In the case of BW, the former.
And there lies the rub. EA is the shyte disturber, insisting on every game to be online = MP = backend monetization. Bio, as you say, has yet to succeed in a hybrid loot-shooter- RPG story driven game.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 12, 2020 17:57:54 GMT
Big Snip
My overall view mirrors a lot of others: they just didn't successfully meld RPG with open world + looter-shooter. Companies keep trying, and it seems most(?) of us would just rather they stick with one, or the other. In the case of BW, the former.
And there lies the rub. EA is the shyte disturber, insisting on every game to be online = MP = backend monetization. Bio, as you say, has yet to succeed in a hybrid loot-shooter- RPG story driven game.
The problem is thus... how does Bioware extricate itselft from EA ? It might be next to impossible. Bioware would have to be sufficiently willing and capable of sustaining itself as both publisher and developer.
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Post by Sartoz on May 12, 2020 21:34:04 GMT
And there lies the rub. EA is the shyte disturber, insisting on every game to be online = MP = backend monetization. Bio, as you say, has yet to succeed in a hybrid loot-shooter- RPG story driven game.
The problem is thus... how does Bioware extricate itselft from EA ? It might be next to impossible. Bioware would have to be sufficiently willing and capable of sustaining itself as both publisher and developer.
Impossible with current management in place. I'm talking about millions of dollars in management payroll plus millions in bonuses should EA meet or exceed revenue guidance.
Ergo, the latter drives EA policies.
EDIT: Bio is an EA studio "division".... owned by EA. Extrication means its "division" workers must leave the studio to create another company. DA + ME license will remain the property of EA.
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