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Post by copper on Mar 8, 2018 0:59:19 GMT
I have heard you can even elect "Dog," but that particular champion is denied participation. It's one of the best comedy lines in the game Just proves Eamon is a fake Fereldan. Any REAL Fereldan wouldn't hesitate to let a majestic mabari participate.
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Post by warden on Mar 9, 2018 10:51:47 GMT
Well, after all Eamon has a disgusting Orlesian wife, of course he is a fake Fereldan.
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Post by TheEmptyRoad on Mar 15, 2018 4:36:40 GMT
After all I said in my previous post...I'm rethinking it. Been replaying the Origins and...they are ALL good. However, as far as race goes...the Hero of the 4th Blight was an Elf Rogue, and the last Inquisitor was an Elven Mage. This leads me to Dwarf and Qunari for my non-human characters. Especially with the story in Inquisition and Trespasser about past glories of Elvhen'an, the Elves kinda seem to represent the past to me. Also, none of my Elven Inkys would've taken no for answer when it came to joining with Fen'harel - it would break my immersion too much. If BW had included an option for Elven Quizzy's to join Solas and have either Leliana(Non-Divine), Cullen, or Josephine, or heck even Cassandra (Non-Divine) take over the Inquisition in your absence. Each would have predetermined responses as to whether or not the Inquisition would disband or not. Then not only Solas but YOUR INQUISITOR becomes a villain for future DA games.
But yeah, back to the drawing board for Origins...Dwarf Noble Warrior, or Dwarf Commoner Rogue. Leaning towards Dwarf Noble, since the Dwarf Quizzy is basically a Commoner and Origin's is likely the last time one will be able to play as a Noble Caste Dwarf from Orzammar. Then since Hawke is a human Rogue for me...Vashoth Mercenary Mage. A literal Saarebas leads the Inquisition, LOL. Course a magic-attuned Security guard WOULD likely have detected the nefarious Divine-sacrificing ritual shenanigans.
Great, now I have choose new decisions. Shit. A Vashoth Mage wouldn't necessarily care about the Rebel Mages just because, since they're a mercenary. Also, WHAT SPEC?!?! I've never settled on a DAI Mage Spec... *weeping*
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Mar 15, 2018 5:08:14 GMT
Great, now I have choose new decisions. Shit. A Vashoth Mage wouldn't necessarily care about the Rebel Mages just because, since they're a mercenary. Also, WHAT SPEC?!?! I've never settled on a DAI Mage Spec... *weeping* I feel that Rift Mage is the best option because it allows a mage to further develop the power of the mark that they already have. Besides, it means you get to honour the sacrifice of Your Trainer. Knight Enchanter and Necromancer are fun and all, but I hate the idea of her melting her brain for no reason.
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Post by TheEmptyRoad on Mar 15, 2018 6:49:58 GMT
Great, now I have choose new decisions. Shit. A Vashoth Mage wouldn't necessarily care about the Rebel Mages just because, since they're a mercenary. Also, WHAT SPEC?!?! I've never settled on a DAI Mage Spec... *weeping* I feel that Rift Mage is the best option because it allows a mage to further develop the power of the mark that they already have. Besides, it means you get to honour the sacrifice of Your Trainer. Knight Enchanter and Necromancer are fun and all, but I hate the idea of her melting her brain for no reason. True. Also, when Solas leaves, you're down one Rift Mage.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Mar 16, 2018 17:34:15 GMT
I feel that Rift Mage is the best option because it allows a mage to further develop the power of the mark that they already have. Besides, it means you get to honour the sacrifice of Your Trainer. Knight Enchanter and Necromancer are fun and all, but I hate the idea of her melting her brain for no reason. True. Also, when Solas leaves, you're down one Rift Mage. Still pissed that his traitorous ass takes all the gear you gave him when he leaves.
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Post by Rascoth on Mar 16, 2018 17:51:25 GMT
True. Also, when Solas leaves, you're down one Rift Mage. Still pissed that his traitorous ass takes all the gear you gave him when he leaves. I may have taken his gear off a few times before final quest
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Post by sageoflife on Mar 19, 2018 16:06:53 GMT
I usually prefer my characters be gay/bi men in Sword-and-Sorcerer pairs with their love interests, mainly because I so rarely get to do that, but I also like it when my characters directly connect to other games in the series. The way I have it set up in my world state, Amell (the only woman among my PCs) creates the best context for the upcoming Mage-Templar War, Hawke was at Ostagar, and Trevelyan's life was turned on its head by the Battle of Kirkwall.
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Post by phoray on Mar 19, 2018 16:38:06 GMT
It's one of the best comedy lines in the game. I think I did it with my last Warden, a Brosca. Just as funny in game as out.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 21, 2018 17:01:04 GMT
Took a break from DA and the forums and it cleared my head of all this canon stuff. I guess I was just thinking too hard. The only thing set in stone at this point is that my Inquisitor is a qunari mage who romances Sera, Hawke is a mage, and the Warden is a non-mage. Everything else... race, gender, decisions... is kind of up in the air.
I think I'm just going to play around a bit until I settle on something that feels "right."
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Mar 21, 2018 18:43:42 GMT
The closest thing I have to a canon world-state is the world-state I played first in Dragon Age: Origins, imported first into Dragon Age: Inquisition, and am planning to import first into DA4. And... I'm really only singling it out for that treatment because it was my first world-state.
Edit: On second thought, it's also the one where I most strongly self-insert. Come to think of it, maybe that's a large part of it.
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Post by cooldude on Mar 23, 2018 12:55:17 GMT
I base my canon on what I believe to be the vision of the people who wrote the story.
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 24, 2018 1:44:28 GMT
For me it's DAO human male mage or warrior Warden, romances either Morrigan or Leliana. DA2 Human male mage Hawke romances Isabela. DAI Qunari male mage or warrior, romances either Cassandra or Josephine.
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Post by TheEmptyRoad on Mar 25, 2018 3:26:00 GMT
Also, instead of the three base classes for the three different protagonists, you can have all three be the same class if you like one class in particular, yet three very different versions/interpretations of that class. Not to mention different motivations and personalities of the protagonists.
Mage Examples: Hero of Ferelden - 'Typical' Circle Mage who then dabbles in Shapeshifting due to Morrigan's influence. But still approaches Magical Politics from the perspective of the Circle.
Champion of Kirkwall - Apostate who's never known the Circle and always on the run. Specializes in non-flashy magic (No fireballs or thunderstorms)so as to avoid undue attention. For all intents and purposes appears to be an agile, staff wielding warrior-type. Schools of Entropy and Creation emphasized (along with spells like mind blast) and specializing in either Force Mage to really drive home the in-your-face physicality or Blood Mage to drive home the subtle non-flashy style.
Inquisitor - Dalish First with Falon'Din Vallaslin specializing in Necromancy. OR Qunari Mercenary who acted as a Magical Artillery piece (fitting given that their surname Adaar is the qunari word for their dreadnought's cannons and literally means 'fire-thrower'), later specializing in Rift Magic to take advantage of their Mark and of course summon down a METEOR STORM.
Warrior Examples: Hero of Ferelden - Dwarven Noble front-line leader. Sword and Board all the way, specializing in Champion and Guardian. Dabbling in Templar to take advantage of his lyrium and magic-resistant nature. Champion of Kirkwall - While stationed at Ostagar, took to the style of the Ash Warriors and honed his rage into a weapon as he fought in the Red Iron Mercenary Company as a Berserker. Later, after slaying a High Dragon and with the help of his blood mage friend Merrill, took Dragon's Blood and became a Reaver.
Inquisitor - Qunari Mercenary Soldier. True Military discipline through and through. Similar to the Dwarf above but being less a DEATH AND GLORY type leader, more of a "Flank them while I HOLD THE LINE!" type. It's goood to be Chaampion.
Rogue Examples: Hero of Ferelden - Casteless bruiser who fights dirty. Zevran teaches them that there is a whole way of thinking tied to the idea of 'If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing it WRONG'. An assassin who pulls no punches, goes for the nuts, and uses every other dirty trick in the book.
Champion of Kirkwall - Archer in the King's Army who learns the tricks of Athenril's smugglers and becomes like Shadow. A Sniper you never see coming. An arrow from the Dark.
Inquisitor - Dalish Hunter who sees a future for the People not tied to the magic of the keepers, but to the Mechanisms and tools of modern warfare. A follower of June who likes to make things go BOOM while gigglesnorting.
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Post by copper on May 26, 2018 19:59:06 GMT
I maaay be changing my canon warden a bit. Lately I've been enjoying playing Lawful Evil. So right now I really like the idea of a female dwarf noble (I'm way too predictable with playing dwarves) warrior who romances Leliana and makes Loghain do Morrigan's ritual. She'll make decisions based on what makes her look good and what gives her the most power. So Alistair and Anora rule together in order to prevent a potential civil war and provide reliable trade/military support for Orzammar. Avernus gets no restrictions on his research so that my warden can get rid of that pesky calling. Despite his betrayal Bhelen is still Orzammar's king, cuz better a capable Aeducan ruling than that spineless Harrowmont. Plus I feel like she would have a sort of grudging respect for her little brother beating her at the political game, and maybe even feel slightly proud of him. Going on a quest to cure the calling in inquisition era also makes sense for this warden, though I think it could be a fitting end for her to fail.
I don't see my canon male sarcastic mage Hawke who romances Fenris changing because I love him too much. And whenever I finally get a system that can run Inquisition I'll be able to decide on a canon inquisitor.
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Post by vertigomez on May 26, 2018 22:30:24 GMT
I maaay be changing my canon warden a bit. Lately I've been enjoying playing Lawful Evil. So right now I really like the idea of a female dwarf noble (I'm way too predictable with playing dwarves) warrior who romances Leliana and makes Loghain do Morrigan's ritual. She'll make decisions based on what makes her look good and what gives her the most power. So Alistair and Anora rule together in order to prevent a potential civil war and provide reliable trade/military support for Orzammar. Avernus gets no restrictions on his research so that my warden can get rid of that pesky calling. Despite his betrayal Bhelen is still Orzammar's king, cuz better a capable Aeducan ruling than that spineless Harrowmont. Plus I feel like she would have a sort of grudging respect for her little brother beating her at the political game, and maybe even feel slightly proud of him. Going on a quest to cure the calling in inquisition era also makes sense for this warden, though I think it could be a fitting end for her to fail. I don't see my canon male sarcastic mage Hawke who romances Fenris changing because I love him too much. And whenever I finally get a system that can run Inquisition I'll be able to decide on a canon inquisitor. Are you me? Your Aeducan (and Hawke, for that matter) sounds exactly like mine. Except my dorf lady wasn't evil, per se, just... uh...... a product of her society? And pragmatism > sentiment was by and large her motto. She kept Alistair (with Anora) and Bhelen on the throne because bloodlines were a big deal to her, but she appreciated Anora's political savvy. I'm still struggling with defining my canon. DAI is solid but DA2 is in limbo (my m!Hawke who romanced Fenris, had Warden Carver, executed Anders is wrestling with my f!Hawke who romanced Isabela, had Templar Carver, spared Anders) and I'm always stressing about DAO, it's a little ridiculous. I wish I could just settle on one.
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Post by copper on May 27, 2018 5:50:23 GMT
Morally dubious dwarves for the win ! DA2's canon is easy for me because I prefer male Hawke's voice acting, he just sounds so hammy with purple personality. Likewise mage is my canon because of Carver. And the dynamic between Hawke and Fenris appeals to me because it shouldn't work as well as it does. My Hawke is a goofy mage, but Fenris still puts up with him for some reason I go back and forth with Origins sometimes too even though most of my choices stay the same. Yet at the same time the dwarf origins are my favorites, so I never drift too far I guess.
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Post by vertigomez on May 27, 2018 6:02:29 GMT
DA2's canon is easy for me because I prefer male Hawke's voice acting, he just sounds so hammy with purple personality. Likewise mage is my canon because of Carver. And the dynamic between Hawke and Fenris appeals to me because it shouldn't work as well as it does. My Hawke is a goofy mage, but Fenris still puts up with him for some reason Oh, I totally get it. I vastly prefer Nick Boulton's Hawke as well and I really love the dynamic between purple mage Hawke and Fenris (and Carver, and Aveline, and....). Isabela just likes to invade my brain every now and then and she's probably my second favorite f/f romance in the universe, so I gotta give her her due. Riiight? Dwarf commoner is indisputably my favorite origin but my favorite guy is not really compatible with any of the companions, which makes me sad. It's not the end of the world to not have a romance, but it's a nice little connection to the world at large.
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Post by duskwanderer on May 27, 2018 18:54:44 GMT
I like to keep my canon characters separate from each other. After all, there is always the possibility of the character coming back, so I really don't want to be painted into a corner and have all of my characters be the same person.
For Origins, I picked a City Elven female dual-wielding rogue specializing in the Rogue tree. City Elf was a really interesting backstory that got into the mythos of Ferelden. While Dwarf Commoner is my favorite background overall, it really doesn't tell us much about anything other than Orzammar, and our game doesn't take place only in Orzammar. I picked female because there is a difference between female and male, and the female's is cooler. I picked Rogue because elves aren't allowed to carry weapons openly (which would rule out Warrior) and since she could only practice in secret, isn't going to have much finesse with the weapons, preferring cheap tricks and Stealth over weapon techniques. Bows are also harder to conceal than knives
I picked Hawke as a male Blood Mage/Spirit Healer. A Warrior or Rogue Hawke seems to be almost supplemental to Bethany, given how much Athenril and the mercenary guy want the talent of a mage. Plus, becoming more well known is the story of a Champion, whereas Bethany would get more attention being a mage. I picked Blood Mage mostly out of practicality, and Spirit Healer for much the same reason. I made Carver into a Gray Warden because we signed up on the expedition together so he should go. Plus, I brought Anders along because he can sense darkspawn, which would be indispensable when going to the Deep Roads.
I picked the Inquisitor as a Dwarven S/S wielding Templar. The background in the Carta let me pick more "muscle" jobs, so being a Warrior made sense. Given that he allied with the Templars (and they would probably be the Carta's best customers), he would gravitate more towards them. He picked a S/S over two handed firstly because as a dwarf, he's smaller, but also shield bashing and techniques like that are better intimidation techniques.
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 28, 2018 10:57:32 GMT
I just make the choices I feel were right/best in the moment, and stick by them, regardless of consequences. It usually serves me well.
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Post by House Targaryen on May 29, 2018 4:50:24 GMT
Of the many times I've played I haven't chosen a canon yet. It'll depend on when DA4 is released and if Inky has any part in it. Then I will most likely chose one of the Inkies that romanced Solas.
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Post by colfoley on May 29, 2018 23:16:04 GMT
I have decided that I tend to do 'my canon' based on the character and not the world state.
It is hard to remember exactly who did what when and keeping track of it for a canon state of decsions, like I constantly struggle with my Inquisitors did they save the Wardens, did they not save the Wardens and sent them packing and all the conversation with that. And...well with me playing my canon characters at LEAST twice it does tend to have some inconsitency because I used to view my most recent PT as the most canon PT...but that runs into the problem of one of my PTs with my canon Shepard she lost Miranda in ME 2 and in another PT she lost Mordin in ME 2. Now a PT where she lost both of them would probably be the most interesting from a story perspective, especially given what I headcanoned for her and gave her in the fan fic, but it probably is not the one I consider her 'canon'...and then of course they both happened in different PTs so while both events would make very juicy canon neiter of those PTs could be considered canon...if that makes sense.
So as I said I prefer the character. Generally speaking it seems to come down to the personal character arc that I send them on (the decisions do help with this, but it can be abstract) like my Inquisitor went from kind of selfish girl with lack of confidence to coming into her own with the Inquisition. Or the quality of the Voice Acting of said character (hence Alix Wilton Regan, Jennifer Hale, and Scott Taylorson all greatly influenced who would be my canon), or who they romance. I tend to prefer same race romances for my canon so Kara/ Cullen, Robert/ Cora and Abigail...no one gets my vote for the canon in those cases. Still though I tend to run through teach BioWare game twice once as each gender, usually human, and then depending on which of their two stories I like more I tend to run through the game at least one more time.
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Post by vertigomez on May 29, 2018 23:53:36 GMT
I tend to prefer same race romances for my canon Interesting! I almost always do the opposite. I generally like exploring the social dynamics of interracial relationships in Thedas (given that it's presented as a bigger deal than just being in a same-sex relationship or being with a mage, etc.). There are exceptions, though. Obviously can't romance Isabela as anything other than the very human Hawke, I've paired Zevran with his fair share of elves, and there are some human LIs that I'm just skeeved out by the thought of them + an elf. Dwarf/human, human/elf, qunari/elf, dwarf/qunari... it's all good.
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Post by Sumerian Physics on May 30, 2018 0:12:29 GMT
I never know, going into it. It's all very intangible for me and simply comes down to the personal connection I make to the character.
When I see the word "Ryder" I instantly think of the guy in my avatar and all of his missions and decisions. I barely remember what canon Ryder is supposed to look like.
When I see the word Shepard, I think of Veronica Mars, who I modeled for my 9th playthrough and who I imagined to be more tortured and less confident than the canonical Shepard.
When I think of the Inquisitor, it is my iron fist Dwarven warrior. He's not even the character who I've spent the most time playing. It... Just is and I can't fully explain it.
But I think it comes down to the character who is most thematically coherent and comes together best as a mixture of my imagination and in game facts
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Post by pavellaning on Jun 2, 2018 20:15:42 GMT
My canon is:
Warden Mahariel
- Warrior - Romance Morrigan + had Old God baby with her - Recruited Loghain into Wardens - Made Alistair King with Anora - Annulled Circle of Magi and killed Wynne - Sided with the Dalish Elves, killed Werewolves - Desecrated the Urn of Sacred Ashes, and killed Leliana - Returned Sten's sword - Made Bhelen King, and kept Anvil of the Void. Also, sided with Branka. - Accepted Caladrius' offer - Actually stayed to defend Redcliffe, but had Isolde sacrifice herself in a blood magic ritual. Let Jowan free. - Killed Shale in Deep Roads when he sided with Branka.
Hawke
- Rogue - Sided with Meredith Stannard - Gave Isabela to the Arishok - Returned Fenris to Danarius. - Merril's clan is actually alive - Killed Feynriel in the Fade and made him Tranquil - Sided with Janeka - Betrayed Bethany multiple times - Red / Aggressive personality - Rival-manced Anders
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