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Post by ScumbagShepurd on Mar 9, 2018 16:24:44 GMT
Reservoir Dogs isn't professional enough, lots of amateur mistakes. I loved the diner " tipping " discussion scene, but were there any mistakes in that scene ? But yeah like someone else said, it is between ok and best movie in the world. that scene (the whole thing, not just Mr Pink's rant) is supposed to foreshadow the characters, their roles in the gang and/or their fates. Here's Mr Pink is shown as an egotistical jerk who kinda got a point (from Quentin's perspective anyway), Mr White has a heart of gold who champions those who he thinks deserve to be fought for, Mr Orange snitches on people etc. nice scene, fun and well-thought-out. It still contains at least one mistake, Mr Brown's remarks don't really show his fate or his role. He just cracks some jokes about dicks, that's all. That's a flaw in design. but when i was talking about mistakes, i was recalling this scene: 2:39 the old guy's posture isn't intense enough to reflect intensity of the standoff. My legs more intense when i pee tbh. moreover, the whole thing ends ridiculous. Eddie's actor overacts as fuck when he gets shot, his jump is more fake than Trump's tan, i didn't believe for a second when i saw it for the 1st time. Harvey Keitel made a mistake too, his Mr White didnt turn his gun properly to actually shoot at Eddie, so the whole scene feels fake. all three actors made some mistakes there, but it's director's job to correct them. Tarantino didn't notice or wasn't patient enough to shoot the scene properly. Either way, it's his fault the scene isn't intense enough and doesn't really work.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 10, 2018 17:41:36 GMT
and this: The first scene being a rather forgettable scene where Bruce Willis tries to convince a mentally handicapped womanTo you, the dance may be dorky. The dance is an authentic recreation of the dancing of the period the restaurant is based around. It all sails over your head, because you are a child. A child that is ignorant of the past, and thinks that is ok. Working from a place of ignorance, you make these threads in an attempt to stir the pot. I bet you're a gas at parties. Literally. Like a room clearing fart.
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Post by Gandalf the Fabulous on Mar 10, 2018 21:07:37 GMT
To you, the dance may be dorky. The dance is an authentic recreation of the dancing of the period the restaurant is based around. It all sails over your head, because you are a child. A child that is ignorant of the past, and thinks that is ok. Working from a place of ignorance, you make these threads in an attempt to stir the pot. I bet you're a gas at parties. Literally. Like a room clearing fart. Just because the dance is "an authentic recreation of the dancing of the period the restaurant is based around" does not make the dance any less dorky, there is a reason people don't dance like that nowdays (unless of course they are doing it ironically for giggles) and a reason why it went out of style, I am not sure how this stunning detail could go over anyone's head as I thought it was pretty obvious that the dance was supposed to be imitating the period the restaurant is based around, no what goes over my head is what about it makes the scene so great which is also something you have failed to explain? Forgive me if you think I am being an ignorant child but I just don't see what stunning revelations this scene adds to the overall plot of the movie or what it adds to the movie in general and how it elevates the movie to greatness? I mean surely one as mature as you who resorts to name calling and fart quips the moment somebody dares question the greatness of their beloved movie could easily explain this right? The first scene being a rather forgettable scene where Bruce Willis tries to convince a mentally handicapped womanWhat would you call her? I mean you gotta admit she does seem pretty dense, forgetting the watch and being totally oblivious to any danger that they are currently in while being incredibly slow to understand basic concepts and generally useless.
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Post by mybudgee on Mar 11, 2018 1:45:04 GMT
I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking this! Cause you know, or as you know I LOVE all of Quentin Tarantino’s movies, I’m like a die hard fan of his lol but it’s like this is the only one I couldn’t get into and I feel really bad about it cause it’s HIS movie. You should definitely give it another shot if you want to, it's still a good movie, but like you said before, it's really slow and to me felt more like an early Coen Brothers movie than Tarantino. I like Jackie Brown more each time I see it, mostly because of this motherfucker Also, Reservoir Dogs is fucking brilliant. People who rip the acting/writing are out of their minds
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 11, 2018 12:59:40 GMT
Just because the dance is "an authentic recreation of the dancing of the period the restaurant is based around" does not make the dance any less dorky, there is a reason people don't dance like that nowdays (unless of course they are doing it ironically for giggles) No. You don't dance like that, and maybe your tragically hip friends don't either. Nevertheless, people like to maintain the dances of the past because they are fun, and not dorky. You are the dork for thinking so. I would call her a woman who speaks English as a second language, and is young and not concerned with certain things. Kind of like yourself.
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Post by Gandalf the Fabulous on Mar 11, 2018 18:01:55 GMT
Just because the dance is "an authentic recreation of the dancing of the period the restaurant is based around" does not make the dance any less dorky, there is a reason people don't dance like that nowdays (unless of course they are doing it ironically for giggles) No. You don't dance like that, and maybe your tragically hip friends don't either. Nevertheless, people like to maintain the dances of the past because they are fun, and not dorky. You are the dork for thinking so. Woah dude I am not judging you or anything, if you like to dance like that then that is totally fine, I mean I get it can be fun to let your hair down and act silly and like a dork from time to time but you still gotta admit the dance is pretty silly and nobody will recognize you as the cool cat you think you are for doing that dance. I would call her a woman who speaks English as a second language, and is young and not concerned with certain things. Kind of like yourself. You must have a very low opinion of foreigners, there are many people for whom English isn't their first language who aren't that mentally fragile, it does not matter how young you are I am pretty sure if people were actively coming to KILL YOU you would probably show a little more concern, instead she is treated as if she is too mentally fragile to handle that information constantly misunderstanding the urgency of the situation and being unable to complete the simplest of tasks including packing a fucking watch (though if the watch was so important then surely Bruce Willis should have made sure to pack it himself). Even when Bruce Willis is trying to get her on the chopper she gets upset when Bruce raises his voice because she is too dense to understand that if they don't get the fuck out of town right now people will kill them and in order to calm her down Bruce has to distract her with talk of pancakes before she will get on the bike, you may chalk it up to being young and while this may be accurate if she was 6 years old she is clearly in her 20s and should not be quite so dense. That being said you have still failed to explain what makes these scenes so brilliant? Could it be that you can't and this is another "Emperor's new clothes" situation where anyone who doesn't understand Pulp fiction is a child and you don't want to be seen as no child?
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Post by Lady Artifice on Mar 11, 2018 18:17:57 GMT
The dance is stylistic dorkiness. It's part of Tarantino's charm. He does nearly everything with this precision, and part of the reason we film students like to treat this one like the holy grail is because he manages to show you a perfectly constructed story with all the most important storytelling parts, but he does it out of order and it still manages to translate coherently on screen.
Still nothing else he's made compares to both parts of Kill Bill for me. Reservoir Dogs used to be my favorite, but that's kind of shifted over the years.
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Post by Gandalf the Fabulous on Mar 11, 2018 18:31:11 GMT
The dance is stylistic dorkiness. It's part of Tarantino's charm. He does nearly everything with this precision, and part of the reason we film students like to treat this one like the holy grail is because he manages to show you a perfectly constructed story with all the most important storytelling parts, but he does it out of order and it still manages to translate coherently on screen. Still nothing else he's made compares to both parts of Kill Bill for me. Reservoir Dogs used to be my favorite, but that's kind of shifted over the years. Actually that is probably the major problem I have with Pulp Fiction, I am not exactly sure what the overarching narrative is supposed to be, to me it seems like a series of interconnected short stories that have no real cohesive overall narrative and are only really connected by the fact that they all focus on those wrapped up in a life of crime and feature some of the same characters. What exactly do they teach you in film school about this movie?
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Post by mybudgee on Mar 11, 2018 22:38:29 GMT
Kill Bill is damn good too... probably my personal favorite Tarantino after Reservoir Dogs
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 12, 2018 8:21:02 GMT
Retarded thread is retarded. Blocking Gay Adam.
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Post by Gandalf the Fabulous on Mar 12, 2018 20:56:35 GMT
Retarded thread is retarded. Blocking Gay Adam. Stunning display of maturity from Qui-Gon Glenn showing that only the most mature of individuals can understand the brilliance that is Pulp Fiction. Remember kids if you want to seem as mature as Qui-Gon Glenn then you better pretend Pulp Fiction is a great movie otherwise it will prove to the world what an immature kiddie you are! Also the Emperor's gown looks lovely this evening........... what do you mean his wang is hanging out? I don't see no wang
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Post by PATPATPATlol on Mar 12, 2018 21:40:51 GMT
I eat turds.
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Post by bmwcrazy on Mar 14, 2018 0:55:08 GMT
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Post by Gandalf the Fabulous on Mar 14, 2018 4:51:24 GMT
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Post by bmwcrazy on Mar 14, 2018 5:51:10 GMT
Don't be a square. She's telling you to be a rectangle instead.
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Post by Lady Artifice on Mar 18, 2018 18:18:55 GMT
The dance is stylistic dorkiness. It's part of Tarantino's charm. He does nearly everything with this precision, and part of the reason we film students like to treat this one like the holy grail is because he manages to show you a perfectly constructed story with all the most important storytelling parts, but he does it out of order and it still manages to translate coherently on screen. Still nothing else he's made compares to both parts of Kill Bill for me. Reservoir Dogs used to be my favorite, but that's kind of shifted over the years. Actually that is probably the major problem I have with Pulp Fiction, I am not exactly sure what the overarching narrative is supposed to be, to me it seems like a series of interconnected short stories that have no real cohesive overall narrative and are only really connected by the fact that they all focus on those wrapped up in a life of crime and feature some of the same characters. What exactly do they teach you in film school about this movie? Well, it's funny. Most of my film classes were very genre focused. Horror, mostly. So while it was referenced often and I was surrounded by film students who adored it, the class I was in that ended up paying it the most focus was creative writing. We had this guy come in who wrote for that Star Wars cartoon and broke down the crucial moments you actually need in a story by using Pulp Fiction as an example. The main point was that as derogatory as terms like "formulaic" tend to be, treating formula as entirely a negative is a little too reductive when approaching writing. I would hazard a guess that film classes actually teaching about this movie pay a lot of attention to the dialogue and the visual framing, but I haven't been in one myself.
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Post by oliviawilde on Mar 18, 2018 20:22:30 GMT
I didn't like the part with Bruce Willis but really liked the rest So I give it 4 out of 5 stars
Funny that Tarantino's best film is an adaptation ("Jackie Brown")
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Post by Ieldra on Mar 18, 2018 20:38:50 GMT
Disappointing.
A simple question and nobody has posted a reason why they like it on two pages. Just some people asserting, without cause given, that it's great.
FWIW, I found the movie forgettable. Didn't appeal to me at all. So yeah, it's a complete mystery to me what people like in it. I thought maybe some answers would appear here in this thread, so I could at least unterstand it on a theoretical level, but no...
Disappointing.
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Post by mybudgee on Mar 18, 2018 23:57:36 GMT
I don't get Millennials
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Post by PATPATPATlol on Mar 19, 2018 2:14:02 GMT
The sequel was pretty good actually. Had more pulp to it.
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Post by Gandalf the Fabulous on Mar 19, 2018 3:11:52 GMT
Actually that is probably the major problem I have with Pulp Fiction, I am not exactly sure what the overarching narrative is supposed to be, to me it seems like a series of interconnected short stories that have no real cohesive overall narrative and are only really connected by the fact that they all focus on those wrapped up in a life of crime and feature some of the same characters. What exactly do they teach you in film school about this movie? Well, it's funny. Most of my film classes were very genre focused. Horror, mostly. So while it was referenced often and I was surrounded by film students who adored it, the class I was in that ended up paying it the most focus was creative writing. We had this guy come in who wrote for that Star Wars cartoon and broke down the crucial moments you actually need in a story by using Pulp Fiction as an example. The main point was that as derogatory as terms like "formulaic" tend to be, treating formula as entirely a negative is a little too reductive when approaching writing. I would hazard a guess that film classes actually teaching about this movie pay a lot of attention to the dialogue and the visual framing, but I haven't been in one myself. Might want to start asking those questions then, being taught something is objective truth while not being taught the why of it isn't so much education as it is indoctrination.
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Post by mybudgee on Mar 19, 2018 3:24:02 GMT
I would hazard a guess that film classes actually teaching about this movie pay a lot of attention to the dialogue and the visual framing, but I haven't been in one myself. Might want to start asking those questions then, being taught something is objective truth while not being taught the why of it isn't so much education as it is indoctrination.
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Post by Gandalf the Fabulous on Mar 19, 2018 3:25:20 GMT
Disappointing. A simple question and nobody has posted a reason why they like it on two pages. Just some people asserting, without cause given, that it's great. FWIW, I found the movie forgettable. Didn't appeal to me at all. So yeah, it's a complete mystery to me what people like in it. I thought maybe some answers would appear here in this thread, so I could at least unterstand it on a theoretical level, but no... Disappointing. My favorite part was when that guy came in asserting anyone who doesn't like Pulp Fiction is a child then stormed off like a child because his assertions were questioned. Honestly I am starting to get the feeling Pulp Fiction is just another one of those things where somebody has just asserted it is good and rather than question the assertion people just went along with it because it would ruin their hipster cred or ruin their credibility with the artsy crowd if they did not. Kind of like the assertion that Citizen Kane is one of the best (if not THE best) films ever created or the assertion that Roger Ebert actually contributed something worthwhile to society.
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Post by Lady Artifice on Mar 19, 2018 10:19:05 GMT
Well, it's funny. Most of my film classes were very genre focused. Horror, mostly. So while it was referenced often and I was surrounded by film students who adored it, the class I was in that ended up paying it the most focus was creative writing. We had this guy come in who wrote for that Star Wars cartoon and broke down the crucial moments you actually need in a story by using Pulp Fiction as an example. The main point was that as derogatory as terms like "formulaic" tend to be, treating formula as entirely a negative is a little too reductive when approaching writing. I would hazard a guess that film classes actually teaching about this movie pay a lot of attention to the dialogue and the visual framing, but I haven't been in one myself. Might want to start asking those questions then, being taught something is objective truth while not being taught the why of it isn't so much education as it is indoctrination. Groovy, but that's not what I described at all. I gave one of the reasons for its popularity in my first post on the subject. It hits all the crucial storytelling points with precision, and it manages to do it out of order. *Shrug* That's one of the reasons. It's not all of the reasons, and I'm sure there is still more I can learn about it, but that doesn't mean that I haven't learned anything already. It just means there's always more, like with anything.
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