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Post by Sanunes on May 5, 2018 6:44:23 GMT
I suspect the first revival we'll ever hear regarding Mass Effect is a remaster, if only to garner interest. EA will want to test whether people still have an interest in the franchise, which a remaster accomplishes. That won't happen for another few years though. Right now Anthem is their focus. And if it fails... I don't see BioWare surviving much longer. Though, to be fair, if Anthem fails it's probably because a studio of people who makes RPG's was tasked with creating a MP game. It's baffling that EA doesn't know this. That said, not interested in a remaster much. I suspect there'd be too many tweaks I wouldn't care for. People were complaining that BioWare couldn't make a MMO either, yet the year The Old Republic went F2P it made a lot of money for EA. So I doubt they don't think BioWare could do something like this. Just because its MP doesn't mean its that far out of what BioWare makes either, just without the baggage of what people want BioWare to make for them.
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Post by griffith82 on May 5, 2018 12:19:53 GMT
But there's really nothing so immediate that needs to be addressed right away. The AI found their planet, and honestly, with only 250K ppl they don't even need the other colonies. Everyone could live on Meridian for the time being, especially since they have their own terraforming equipment like they used on Habitat 7. They can terraform planets to their liking and move to them in a few generations. Most but maybe not everyone. It would be a good idea of a world was found for the turians. It was frankly hard to credit that a world for dextro and levo planets to be in the same system. This would work better if they expanded beyond the Heleus Cluster to find one of those worlds. A good way to move a bit forward, maybe to a place not inundated by the Scourge. I definitely think they would go beyond Heleus the main question is how.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 5, 2018 14:27:27 GMT
Most but maybe not everyone. It would be a good idea of a world was found for the turians. It was frankly hard to credit that a world for dextro and levo planets to be in the same system. This would work better if they expanded beyond the Heleus Cluster to find one of those worlds. A good way to move a bit forward, maybe to a place not inundated by the Scourge. I definitely think they would go beyond Heleus the main question is how. The only thing I can think of is building a mass relay/jumpgate sort of thing like they had in the MW but such a project would definitely need to be done carefully however what with the Kett and who knows what else is in Andromeda. I think it would make for an interesting story in itself though if Bioware did decide to pursue it.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 16:09:46 GMT
People like DA and will play non-humans in that game. People enjoy playing orcs and argonians in Oblivion. I don't think having non-human PCs available to the player has hurt the sales of those games at all. Also, I saw numerous requests for an alien PC and a less humancentric POV on the old BSN and here before ME:A released. I agree with all of that. Well, mostly. I don't think that playing as a human automatically translates to playing a humancentric POV. A human PC can genuinely see all species as having important roles to play, value their various cultures and contributions, even romance other species. I think Javik kind of made a point about that - he said that one of the reasons the protheans failed to defeat the reapers is because they were homogenized, having inculcated all of the species into their culture. The current cycle had a better chance because the various alien cultures were still independent, capable of bringing different approaches to the problem. Relating to your Oblivion reference, note that those games aren't voiced or cinematic - so I don't know that it makes for a valid comparison. As far as supporting species choice in ME, they'd need to either break lore like crazy or have some unique options depending on which race you've selected. DA doesn't allow you to play a mage dwarf; ME should not allow an angaran to have biotics, but should give them some special bioelectric abilities. Since MEA quit the combat classes, opening up all talents to the player, that could get complicated - and then you'd have people complaining about wanting to play a biotic angaran. Or wanting to use the special bioelectric capabilities on some other species. Note that all of the DA races have similar facial features and can use the same facial animations. That isn't true in ME. We already have a situation where a lot of the ME species are very human-like, and the ones that aren't have had much lesser roles in the overall storylines (think hanar, elcor, volus, vorcha, rachni) - probably mostly because animating them is a lot more work. One potential solution for that, if the team really wanted to support wide racial options would be to do all conversations in first person camera - but I can already hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth were they to do that. There are also voice filters and different cultural expressions that would need to be taken into consideration. While DA races have some different expressions, they all speak a common tongue. In ME, we're using translators. DAI doubled their voice tracks for the PC, and I think had some unique race-specific options in some places. There would also be a considerable watering down of CC options were they to support multiple species - and after all the complaints they got with MEA, it's a little difficult for me to imagine them wanting to open themselves to more of that. For me, personally, race options add very little value. Though I certainly appreciate the fact that it could mean a lot to some people to have those options, it's hard for me to believe that it could be implemented very well without having some fairly consequential cutbacks in other areas. IOW, they'd have to cut some substantial content that everyone could enjoy in order to provide options that - what - maybe 10% (?) of the entire player base would ever use? It doesn't sound like a very good investment to me. Well, my post really wasn't about getting into all the details about introducing species selection into Mass Effect. It was basically only stating that pushing the timeline way into the future wasn't the only way to achieve the sense of cities or population nor is it the only way to achieve a story that's not about colonizing additional planets. The population base and the cities can come from the Andromedan cultures (angaran and whatever species we just haven't met yet). Beyond that I was just citing some different ideas to show that a variety of solutions are possible.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on May 5, 2018 18:08:14 GMT
I definitely think they would go beyond Heleus the main question is how. The only thing I can think of is building a mass relay/jumpgate sort of thing like they had in the MW but such a project would definitely need to be done carefully however what with the Kett and who knows what else is in Andromeda. I think it would make for an interesting story in itself though if Bioware did decide to pursue it. Maybe Rem-Tech combined with the arks drive systems? Hm, drive the arks like cluster to cluster bus but yeah, I think it could be somehow invented with some space majigz.
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Post by Phantom on May 5, 2018 18:37:01 GMT
This is just me, I would love to see a seedy nasty of Mass Effect where you have to deal with nasty people of all stripes that are actively what to screw you over. Regardless of what you are doing in the area, some will picks fights with you. Others will get police on your ass when you are minding your own business. Having a batarian politely ask your pc if he pay for your companion due to he thinks your companion would make a good slave and you will have an option to punch him the face or one of many possible responses.
Some aliens would bully humans and others aliens just because they could that.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 18:54:10 GMT
I definitely think they would go beyond Heleus the main question is how. The only thing I can think of is building a mass relay/jumpgate sort of thing like they had in the MW but such a project would definitely need to be done carefully however what with the Kett and who knows what else is in Andromeda. I think it would make for an interesting story in itself though if Bioware did decide to pursue it. That'd prolly work. They might also find a jump gate the Jaardan left behind. Where did they go, how did they get out of there? Given the ODSY drive technology the Ai has, they could prolly travel to another cluster in a couple of years or so, even without any special jump tech.
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Post by griffith82 on May 5, 2018 23:09:41 GMT
The only thing I can think of is building a mass relay/jumpgate sort of thing like they had in the MW but such a project would definitely need to be done carefully however what with the Kett and who knows what else is in Andromeda. I think it would make for an interesting story in itself though if Bioware did decide to pursue it. That'd prolly work. They might also find a jump gate the Jaardan left behind. Where did they go, how did they get out of there? Given the ODSY drive technology the Ai has, they could prolly travel to another cluster in a couple of years or so, even without any special jump tech. I like that idea better. Finding something the Jardaan left behind.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 6, 2018 2:00:35 GMT
I definitely think they would go beyond Heleus the main question is how. The only thing I can think of is building a mass relay/jumpgate sort of thing like they had in the MW but such a project would definitely need to be done carefully however what with the Kett and who knows what else is in Andromeda. I think it would make for an interesting story in itself though if Bioware did decide to pursue it. It's kind of iffy. Matriarch Aethyta wanted to do that in the MW and she was laughed at. I just think it would be a hard sell to say that they have that tech. It would be better of they somehow used RemTech to accomplish it.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 6, 2018 3:47:04 GMT
The only thing I can think of is building a mass relay/jumpgate sort of thing like they had in the MW but such a project would definitely need to be done carefully however what with the Kett and who knows what else is in Andromeda. I think it would make for an interesting story in itself though if Bioware did decide to pursue it. It's kind of iffy. Matriarch Aethyta wanted to do that in the MW and she was laughed at. I just think it would be a hard sell to say that they have that tech. It would be better of they somehow used RemTech to accomplish it. That's possible as well of course. I was just saying that if they planned to explore beyond Heleus they would need some sort of tech that could accomplish this either a Mass relay or some sort of Rem tech device perhaps that can do it. Aethyta was only laughed at as that tech already existed throughout the galaxy I think and they probably didn't feel the need to build more whereas this tech doesn't exist at least not yet in Andromeda so if they planned to explore beyond Heleus they would need to build this sort of tech or something like it that could accomplish this. So that kind of thinking I doubt would be laughed at in Andromeda it would just need to be done very carefully because of the Kett and who knows what else out there that could be a threat.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 6, 2018 4:29:13 GMT
With the ODSY Drive they don’t even really need something like a Mass Relay for a while since they don’t have to worry about the discharge issue.
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Post by Sanunes on May 6, 2018 5:22:44 GMT
With the ODSY Drive they don’t even really need something like a Mass Relay for a while since they don’t have to worry about the discharge issue. I think that is a good point. I think having modifications to the original design of the ODSY drive due to what they have discovered could make an interesting way to explore the Andromeda galaxy. The one thing I am hoping for is they don't go the route of massive expansion of the clusters we can visit. I liked that were were in one cluster and just visited a lot of systems in that cluster for game for it allows the area to evolve and possibly change between games instead of being stuck with designing a lot of content all at once and then trying to fit things into what they have already created.
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Post by griffith82 on May 6, 2018 6:26:22 GMT
With the ODSY Drive they don’t even really need something like a Mass Relay for a while since they don’t have to worry about the discharge issue. I think that is a good point. I think having modifications to the original design of the ODSY drive due to what they have discovered could make an interesting way to explore the Andromeda galaxy. The one thing I am hoping for is they don't go the route of massive expansion of the clusters we can visit. I liked that were were in one cluster and just visited a lot of systems in that cluster for game for it allows the area to evolve and possibly change between games instead of being stuck with designing a lot of content all at once and then trying to fit things into what they have already created. Easiest way would be to start the game in heleus, and run into an issue and have to abandon to another cluster. Best way would be to repair the nexus and use it to escape to the next cluster.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 16:36:16 GMT
With the ODSY Drive they don’t even really need something like a Mass Relay for a while since they don’t have to worry about the discharge issue. Yep - like I mentioned up thread, they could easily travel to other clusters with the ODSY drives they already have. One premise I might like for the next game would have Ryder & crew doing exactly that, while the folks in Heleus continue to settle and build. Another possibility (also mentioned upthread) is for them to find a jump gate the Jardaan left behind, and Ryder goes through it looking for them.
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Post by alanc9 on May 6, 2018 17:10:43 GMT
Starflight 2 did something like that. You never end up visiting Arth or the neighboring systems again, although saving them from the Spemin threat (and later, the Umanu) is the point of the game.
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Post by tatann on May 19, 2018 22:59:11 GMT
Considering that Bioware are not as great writers as before, that they still push open worlds despite the fact that their fans are complaining about it (for the most), I wouldn't mind if they gave us a 10-hour singleplayer FPS/TPS action game full of corridors (Bulletstorm, W40K Space Marine, etc...) Or a pure multiplayer game like MExMP, but without handing over the netcode to a 18 year old intern of course, like they did with MEAMP I would, and bioware isnt an entity that writes I heard DAIMP had very bad "netcode" in the beginning, but now that I replaced me3mp with DAIMP, its been just fine. And 99% of time MEAMP is just fine when hoster is inside the continent area (bad games experienced in India, Poland(!) and Canada, and I'm from northern Europe) or hosts from slow connection/wifi.. also have experienced very laggy games on me3mp too. I think you want a game from some other company? Bioware IS some other company, they just got the Mass Effect IP but they're not the same anymore anyway
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Post by Phantom on May 19, 2018 23:05:31 GMT
If Reaper Story is continued within the Milk Way, It should have a New Player character to take up the Torch from Shepard after Shepard dies.
If Andromeda Story with the Pathfinders, I do want a more grounded Ryder of either sibling.
Good Story with good gameplay. A poll should be consider to get a feel where the players of ME:A liked the Most and expand from there.
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Post by Arcian on May 19, 2018 23:08:26 GMT
Um, we don't know. Hell, it's not even looking like DA4 is a sure thing. You can read the first three MET books but skip the fourth. It's apparently lore-breaking and just terrible in general. The first MEA book was decent but haven't read the second. What fourth MET book? They never wrote a fourth.
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Post by Phantom on May 19, 2018 23:16:14 GMT
Um, we don't know. Hell, it's not even looking like DA4 is a sure thing. You can read the first three MET books but skip the fourth. It's apparently lore-breaking and just terrible in general. The first MEA book was decent but haven't read the second. What fourth MET book? They never wrote a fourth. Arcian is right, there is no 4th Mass Effect book. I have heard that those that claim there is a 4th Mass Effect book, were kidnapped by Cerberus Phantoms to the bowels of a Cerberus Test Labs never to be heard from again. I can't confirm those claims.*hides his phantom armor*
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Post by ahglock on May 20, 2018 0:35:48 GMT
What fourth MET book? They never wrote a fourth. Arcian is right, there is no 4th Mass Effect book. I have heard that those that claim there is a 4th Mass Effect book, were kidnapped by Cerberus Phantoms to the bowels of a Cerberus Test Labs never to be heard from again. I can't confirm those claims.*hides his phantom armor* Must be related to the people who say there is more than one highlander movie.
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Post by griffith82 on May 20, 2018 18:47:56 GMT
Arcian is right, there is no 4th Mass Effect book. I have heard that those that claim there is a 4th Mass Effect book, were kidnapped by Cerberus Phantoms to the bowels of a Cerberus Test Labs never to be heard from again. I can't confirm those claims.*hides his phantom armor* Must be related to the people who say there is more than one highlander movie. Well technically there is but they’re shit so imo they don’t exist.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 22, 2018 3:23:10 GMT
Arcian is right, there is no 4th Mass Effect book. I have heard that those that claim there is a 4th Mass Effect book, were kidnapped by Cerberus Phantoms to the bowels of a Cerberus Test Labs never to be heard from again. I can't confirm those claims.*hides his phantom armor* Must be related to the people who say there is more than one highlander movie. Yep, those ridiculous claims of being aliens...too painful to be anything other than bad fanfic.
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Post by guanxi on Aug 25, 2018 6:45:38 GMT
In terms of a premise for a game set in the milky way galaxy post ME3 here's one: What if we had a civilization as technologically and militarily advanced as the protheans in our cycle but their mass relay had been destroyed in a previous cycle (possibly by the Protheans as an experiment in order to protect them knowing) by the time they are no longer dependant on Mass Relays this species will be capable of full-spectrum dominantion of the entire MW and beyond (reapers)? In terms of aesthetic design I'd take inspiration from Protheans, Predator, Forerunners and Elites from Bungie's Halo and I'd imagine their weapons would be entirely particle based. They would have an Armada capable of defeating the Reapers conventionally as they would be several (1..*) galactic cycles more advanced than us. But as a species becomes more advanced as Kardashev postulated so does their resource (energy) requirements driving the need for unprovoked territorial expansion beyond their star system. Much like the Leviathans and Protheans they may consider the council races as primitives and would likely not heed council demands or sanctions which would pretty much guarantee another galactic war which could span several games and could have radically different outcomes depending on choices and alliances you make as the next human spectre. It may be possible to unite the entire galaxy (including the Geth) against them, have Renegade players have humanity join them and conquer the galaxy together or achieve a peaceful solution. It may be a case that your choices determine the strength of the allegiances of the other species - so it may be possible that you could loose the support of Asari, Geth, Turians, etc. to the other side.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 25, 2018 7:41:47 GMT
What if we had a civilization as technologically and militarily advanced as the protheans in our cycle but their mass relay had been destroyed in a previous cycle (possibly by the Protheans as an experiment in order to protect them knowing) by the time they are no longer dependant on Mass Relays this species will be capable of full-spectrum dominantion of the entire MW and beyond (reapers)? The only problem here is the endings. You couldn't miss the people being all green and shit. A Shepard AI in control of the Reapers would also present a considerable challenge. Refusal...well, speaks for itself. This only works if Destroy was chosen.
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age Inquistion
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Post by guanxi on Aug 25, 2018 7:50:56 GMT
What if we had a civilization as technologically and militarily advanced as the protheans in our cycle but their mass relay had been destroyed in a previous cycle (possibly by the Protheans as an experiment in order to protect them knowing) by the time they are no longer dependant on Mass Relays this species will be capable of full-spectrum dominantion of the entire MW and beyond (reapers)? The only problem here is the endings. You couldn't miss the people being all green and shit. A Shepard AI in control of the Reapers would also present a considerable challenge. Refusal...well, speaks for itself. This only works if Destroy was chosen. I would support BioWare completely if they canonized a hybrid of all 3 and left it completely ambiguous and open to interpretation. The glowing green eyes issue was purely just a poor aesthetic choice by at team at the end of their rope. I wouldn't expect that to return if they canonized synthesis.
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