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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 1:42:50 GMT
Huh so that's what all the fuss was about... two girls kissing...
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Post by jaison1986 on Jun 12, 2018 1:44:26 GMT
Huh so that's what all the fuss was about... two girls kissing... I'm sure someone will politicize this to hell. I don't really care so long as the game doesn't preach me.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 12, 2018 1:56:37 GMT
Huh so that's what all the fuss was about... two girls kissing... I'm sure someone will politicize this to hell. I don't really care so long as the game doesn't preach me. If you played The Left Behind DLC its revealed she is gay. So this isn't anything new. Other then the fact she clearly has found someone since that time. It was a prequel story. Oh there are people that complaining it's just for diversity sake.
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Post by LogicGunn on Jun 12, 2018 11:50:41 GMT
The stealth and combat looks really fluid. I loved when she grabbed the bottle as she ran past and flung it at the enemy.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 12, 2018 12:10:41 GMT
The stealth and combat looks really fluid. I loved when she grabbed the bottle as she ran past and flung it at the enemy. I hope that hiding under a car isn't a scripted event, and that's a stealth option.
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Post by phoray on Jun 12, 2018 13:23:04 GMT
Huh so that's what all the fuss was about... two girls kissing... I'm sure someone will politicize this to hell. I don't really care so long as the game doesn't preach me. But does that even matter if it's true? she was a 14 year old in the first game, so her sexuality didn't (or at least shouldn't) matter to players. She may as well have been Asexual. So if she's going to be older and be interested in sex, why not be inclusive? Frankly, in a post apocalypse world where murder and rape have become medeval common again, basic medicine is not a given,, condom factories been out of business for 20+ years, I'd try out bisexuality just to avoid the pregnancy risk.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 12, 2018 13:27:19 GMT
I'm sure someone will politicize this to hell. I don't really care so long as the game doesn't preach me. But does that even matter if it's true? she was a 14 year old in the first game, so her sexuality didn't (or at least shouldn't) matter to players. She may as well have been Asexual. So if she's going to be older and be interested in sex, why not be inclusive? Frankly, in a post apocalypse world where murder and rape have become medeval common again, basic medicine is not a given,, condom factories been out of business for 20+ years, I'd try out bisexuality just to avoid the pregnancy risk. Her sexuality is a plot point in The Left Behind dlc.
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Post by phoray on Jun 12, 2018 13:30:59 GMT
I didn't like the first game. Battle mechanics look like they're not as dumb this game and I approve of Ellie being new full time protaganist. Reminds me of Clementine But if lacks dialogue trees or choices outside of "how will I kill the thing" then it is not for me. I can just wait to watch on youtube and get absolutely same amount of enjoyment.
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Post by phoray on Jun 12, 2018 13:32:18 GMT
Her sexuality is a plot point in The Left Behind dlc. I guess base game was enough bland torture for me. I hated the battle mechanics, they were supremely frustrating. Here I can play TW3 on deathmarch and MEA on it's max setting and I had to pop this down to Easy mode to get the Aim assist.
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Post by jaison1986 on Jun 12, 2018 13:39:54 GMT
I'm sure someone will politicize this to hell. I don't really care so long as the game doesn't preach me. But does that even matter if it's true? she was a 14 year old in the first game, so her sexuality didn't (or at least shouldn't) matter to players. She may as well have been Asexual. So if she's going to be older and be interested in sex, why not be inclusive? Frankly, in a post apocalypse world where murder and rape have become medeval common again, basic medicine is not a given,, condom factories been out of business for 20+ years, I'd try out bisexuality just to avoid the pregnancy risk. Perhaps you got me wrong. When I said preach, I didn't mean "let's have a discussion about homosexualism". I meant something in the lines of "being gay is the best and straight people are all evil". Though from a purely story perspective, you would think people from these types of communities would have issues with homosexuality. Not so much because of dogma or prejudice, but because they don't have a lot of people around anymore, and it's important for young people to get married and have kids.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 12, 2018 13:47:25 GMT
But does that even matter if it's true? she was a 14 year old in the first game, so her sexuality didn't (or at least shouldn't) matter to players. She may as well have been Asexual. So if she's going to be older and be interested in sex, why not be inclusive? Frankly, in a post apocalypse world where murder and rape have become medeval common again, basic medicine is not a given,, condom factories been out of business for 20+ years, I'd try out bisexuality just to avoid the pregnancy risk. Perhaps you got me wrong. When I said preach, I didn't mean "let's have a discussion about homosexualism". I meant something in the lines of "being gay is the best and straight people are all evil". Though from a purely story perspective, you would think people from these types of communities would have issues with homosexuality. Not so much because of dogma or prejudice, but because they don't have a lot of people around anymore, and it's important for young people to get married and have kids. Well Naughty Dog games don't do that. Yes they've been more inclusive like Lost Legacy with Chloe Frazer as the main protagonist, but she was already an established character in the franchise. The same thing with Ellie being gay. This isn't something thats out of the blue with her character.
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Post by phoray on Jun 12, 2018 13:51:35 GMT
Though from a purely story perspective, you would think people from these types of communities would have issues with homosexuality. Not so much because of dogma or prejudice, but because they don't have a lot of people around anymore, and it's important for young people to get married and have kids. my experience from base game is that anyone surviving outside of a quarantine zone offed their kids and women were temporary rape boxes. But maybe that's just because they wanted lore to support why all the bandits were male-only. Maybe IN the quarintine zones, people would want homosexuals to take one for the team, as it were, to maintain gene diversity. At the same time, they may be so disgusted with what's going on outside the walls that they just figure the straight people having 6 + kids from lack of birth control is good enough. The base gene pool is good enough, considering it's survivors from multiple states in one place. So gene diversity is pretty good the first couple of gen. And any straggling-in Survivors just adds to the pool.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jun 12, 2018 14:07:16 GMT
What I found upsetting about the kiss scene was the behavior of that girl. Making out with Ellie in front of her heat broken ex-boyfriend! Who does that?! Just awful!
What a horrible manipulative girl. I hope Ellie finds somebody better...
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jun 12, 2018 14:20:56 GMT
Dude... just watched this and... it looks even better than the last one!
The fluidity of the combat is amazing!
Grabbing bottles while running past and using them, the way the arrow stays in her when she's shot with one (and she pulls it out in cover!) The dodging and reaction of Ellie when a shot hits near her, battle damage from stabs and melee hits. This gonna be goooood!
Man, I need to replay the first one. Guess it's time to buy Last of Us Remastered for Ps4 as I no longer own a ps3. lol
So far (until I watch more of the released trailers, maaaybe), Last of Us 2 and Metro Exodus are my two favorites of E3.
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Post by Queen Skadi on Jun 12, 2018 15:11:12 GMT
I'm sure someone will politicize this to hell. I don't really care so long as the game doesn't preach me. But does that even matter if it's true? she was a 14 year old in the first game, so her sexuality didn't (or at least shouldn't) matter to players. She may as well have been Asexual. So if she's going to be older and be interested in sex, why not be inclusive? Frankly, in a post apocalypse world where murder and rape have become medeval common again, basic medicine is not a given,, condom factories been out of business for 20+ years, I'd try out bisexuality just to avoid the pregnancy risk. As somebody already point it was already revealed in the DLC for the first game that Ellie was gay so it isn't really news to most people. That said while I did not play the DLC for the first game personally I did find the idea of Ellie exploring her sexuality in that game a little distasteful due to her age, seemed like it was put there just to stir up controversy yet allow the developers and the media spin the controversy to make it look like people were upset about the inclusion of a same sex relationship instead of the age issue and thus look like the good guys. That said it would seem Ellie is all grown up now so it is really a non issue
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Post by Queen Skadi on Jun 12, 2018 15:14:43 GMT
What I found upsetting about the kiss scene was the behavior of that girl. Making out with Ellie in front of her heat broken ex-boyfriend! Who does that?! Just awful! What a horrible manipulative girl. I hope Ellie finds somebody better... I dunno I was a bit confused about the relationships as well, wasn't sure who was referring to who if the guy was supposed to be her boyfriend and the girl kissed Ellie to make him jealous or if Ellie and the guy were talking about somebody else and Ellie and the girl were the ones in a relationship.
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Post by Queen Skadi on Jun 12, 2018 15:16:54 GMT
Dude... just watched this and... it looks even better than the last one! The fluidity of the combat is amazing! Grabbing bottles while running past and using them, the way the arrow stays in her when she's shot with one (and she pulls it out in cover!) The dodging and reaction of Ellie when a shot hits near her, battle damage from stabs and melee hits. This gonna be goooood! Man, I need to replay the first one. Guess it's time to buy Last of Us Remastered for Ps4 as I no longer own a ps3. lol So far (until I watch more of the released trailers, maaaybe), Last of Us 2 and Metro Exodus are my two favorites of E3. Dunno, I mean it is a Naughty Dog game and they do tend to heavily script their gameplay presentations, hard to tell how much is scripted and how much is actually indicative of what the gameplay experience will be like.
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Post by jaison1986 on Jun 12, 2018 15:42:40 GMT
What I found upsetting about the kiss scene was the behavior of that girl. Making out with Ellie in front of her heat broken ex-boyfriend! Who does that?! Just awful! What a horrible manipulative girl. I hope Ellie finds somebody better... I dunno I was a bit confused about the relationships as well, wasn't sure who was referring to who if the guy was supposed to be her boyfriend and the girl kissed Ellie to make him jealous or if Ellie and the guy were talking about somebody else and Ellie and the girl were the ones in a relationship. From the little we heard, the girl and the guy that were dancing together have a constant on and off relationship. And aparently she just went and kissed Ellie to make him jealous, while Ellie is genuinely interested in this chick.
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Post by CrazyRah on Jun 12, 2018 16:56:54 GMT
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 14, 2018 1:26:12 GMT
What I found upsetting about the kiss scene was the behavior of that girl. Making out with Ellie in front of her heat broken ex-boyfriend! Who does that?! Just awful! What a horrible manipulative girl. I hope Ellie finds somebody better... Well, it’s a savage world they live in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 20:20:50 GMT
Perhaps you got me wrong. When I said preach, I didn't mean "let's have a discussion about homosexualism". I meant something in the lines of "being gay is the best and straight people are all evil". Though from a purely story perspective, you would think people from these types of communities would have issues with homosexuality. Not so much because of dogma or prejudice, but because they don't have a lot of people around anymore, and it's important for young people to get married and have kids. Well Naughty Dog games don't do that. Yes they've been more inclusive like Lost Legacy with Chloe Frazer as the main protagonist, but she was already an established character in the franchise. The same thing with Ellie being gay. This isn't something thats out of the blue with her character. No.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 14, 2018 20:46:42 GMT
Well Naughty Dog games don't do that. Yes they've been more inclusive like Lost Legacy with Chloe Frazer as the main protagonist, but she was already an established character in the franchise. The same thing with Ellie being gay. This isn't something thats out of the blue with her character. No. Really articulate... did you even play the game and its DLC?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 14, 2018 22:33:59 GMT
I'm sure someone will politicize this to hell. I don't really care so long as the game doesn't preach me. But does that even matter if it's true? she was a 14 year old in the first game, so her sexuality didn't (or at least shouldn't) matter to players. She may as well have been Asexual.So if she's going to be older and be interested in sex, why not be inclusive? Frankly, in a post apocalypse world where murder and rape have become medeval common again, basic medicine is not a given,, condom factories been out of business for 20+ years, I'd try out bisexuality just to avoid the pregnancy risk. Offtopic, but I would love for there to be a main character in a video game who is canonically part of the Ace Spectrum.
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Post by phoray on Jun 14, 2018 23:08:05 GMT
Offtopic, but I would love for there to be a main character in a video game who is canonically part of the Ace Spectrum. It'd have to be a modern game, wouldn't it? Dragon Age just doesn't have that sort of terminology o-o
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