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Post by ArcadiaGrey on May 21, 2019 16:57:25 GMT
I've decided to assume there are 3 spies. That way if we vote off a person on that basis and they prove to be innocent we are still in with a chance but if I assume 2 spies and don't vote for someone who is a spy on that basis and there turns out to be 3 then we have lost. So with 3 spies the only people that it makes sense for me to vote for are either Pela or Fylimar. This is on the assumption that if Pela is not Sera then she has to be a spy and as one of the spies has to be in the war then that person is Fylimar. Lets just say that I have reason to feel that Arcadia can be trusted. It makes more sense to vote for the one who is already leading than the one who is not and it will also end the war, so if there are only two spies and Fylimar is innocent, at least Arcadia can act freely in the next round. Sincere apologies to you Adonniel for having messed up the first round voting by contradicting you. Your instincts were right the first time and so I vote for Fylimar.Be careful not to overthink things. Sometimes the simplest solution is the best.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 17:13:48 GMT
In regard with Fyli, she claimed to be an important role we don't want out. Cullen and Varric are RIP. Then she says she has no clues, that doesn't sound like Leli.
If we had a dog I feel this night someone would have gotten tackled, especially Arcadia to verify if IB claim was genuine. Same goes for Cass, she may have started interrogating already as it takes two turns and it might be too late in the game, and someone would have rang the alarm bell that we have Cass too to add to the hero list. Cole could also have mimiced an ability to be known.
The only role I can think of that we surely don't want out during the day is Vivi.
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Post by fylimar on May 21, 2019 18:15:12 GMT
Well, not much to do, with no hinting allowed, go on, vote me out and see, what it will get you
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Post by gervaise21 on May 21, 2019 18:42:49 GMT
The only role I can think of that we surely don't want out during the day is Vivi. Well there is Stroud but I figure that he would probably have protected Leliana the first two nights so it wouldn't be the end of the world to lose him. It also seems odd that since Fylimar was suggesting an important role on Day 1 the spies didn't go for her rather than Catilina. Anyway I stand by my decision and if I'm wrong, then at least we know there are only two spies.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 19:56:44 GMT
Well, not much to do, with no hinting allowed, go on, vote me out and see, what it will get you You are not prevented from general discussion about who you think the bad guys are. You are only officially obligated to cast a vote at Arcadia, which doesn't mean you can't say, 'I have to vote Arcadia, but I think xxxx is evil.' You could share your opinion. Hinting at your role to prove your innocence is not the only way to defend yourself or to play the game. You would look more innocent if it looked like you were helping catch the bad guys by discussing and voicing who you believe guilty parties to be rather than getting moody because players cast a few votes your way and saying that you can't do anything and blaming it all on one rule repeatedly.
So far based on what you said I cannot deduce at all your position in this game. Who are you with, who are you against, what is your intuition telling you? You haven't said anything. The only thing I understand is that you don't like not being able to hint and are deeply unhappy about getting voted.
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Post by fylimar on May 21, 2019 20:15:26 GMT
Well, not much to do, with no hinting allowed, go on, vote me out and see, what it will get you You are not prevented from general discussion about who you think the bad guys are. You are only officially obligated to cast a vote at Arcadia, which doesn't mean you can't say, 'I have to vote Arcadia, but I think xxxx is evil.' You could share your opinion. Hinting at your role to prove your innocence is not the only way to defend yourself or to play the game. You would look more innocent if it looked like you were helping catch the bad guys by discussing and voicing who you believe guilty parties to be rather than getting moody because players cast a few votes your way and saying that you can't do anything and blaming it all on one rule repeatedly.
So far based on what you said I cannot deduce at all your position in this game. Who are you with, who are you against, what is your intuition telling you? You haven't said anything. The only thing I understand is that you don't like not being able to hint and are deeply unhappy about getting voted.
Ok, I know, you are good and I do for some reason trust gerva despite her wanting to vote me out (she ismuch quierter as a spy normally). The rest is suspicious in my eyes. Maybe even Arcadia, the 'slip' that she is Iron Bull could be on purpose, taking on a role, nobody wants to vote out, is a good disguise for a spy. But it seems, no one is contradicting her claim by voting for her, so it is probably genuine. So I would from my gut feeling put Arcadia and gerva on our side. That's all I've got for now.
I've got to go to bed now, since I have to go up early tomorrow, if I get voted out, so be it. You will still get Christmas cards from me *withpoisonedneedlesinit*
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Post by gervaise21 on May 21, 2019 20:21:15 GMT
*withpoisonedneedlesinit*
Oh dear, I hope you aren't Florianne. Mind you, she wouldn't be objecting to us voting her out and technically she isn't on anyone's side but her own.
Arcadia, is this an example of me overthinking it?
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 20:36:20 GMT
Ok, I know, you are good and I do for some reason trust gerva despite her wanting to vote me out (she ismuch quierter as a spy normally). The rest is suspicious in my eyes. Maybe even Arcadia, the 'slip' that she is Iron Bull could be on purpose, taking on a role, nobody wants to vote out, is a good disguise for a spy. But it seems, no one is contradicting her claim by voting for her, so it is probably genuine. If you believe Gerva to be Sherlock then you must trust Arcadia to be Dr Watson by default since then it would be logical to assume the defense is based on the police background check. (unless you're joking and are with the war shenanigans) If you don't believe Gerva's claim then that means both she and Arcadia are a part of Moriarty nugweb. I'm not seeing anyone contradicting Gerva's claim, which puts a plus check mark in my trust book, but, her actions one round wanting to protect you and the next to vote you out undermines my trust. IB is not a guaranteed role so there might not be anyone to challenge as IB. Though that is really risky for a spy to claim a random hero role off the bat because if there is this role in the game they would get busted right away. That would be pretty funny to have both Sera and Flori, but in that case at least we could assume there are two spies because three spies with Flo and Sera is hero overkill. O_O
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on May 21, 2019 20:41:56 GMT
*withpoisonedneedlesinit*
Oh dear, I hope you aren't Florianne. Mind you, she wouldn't be objecting to us voting her out and technically she isn't on anyone's side but her own.
Arcadia, is this an example of me overthinking it? By overthinking, I meant that there are 2 very obvious candidates for elimination but everyone is bypassing them with big theories. Maybe the simple answer really is the best one?
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 21:21:51 GMT
y overthinking, I meant that there are 2 very obvious candidates for elimination but everyone is bypassing them with big theories. <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.960000000000036px; height: 2.760000000000005px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_91931672" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="2.760000000000005"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 2.76px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_1298031" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="2.760000000000005"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 2.76px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 80px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_46361632" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="2.760000000000005"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 2.76px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: 80px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_76087492" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="2.760000000000005"></iframe> Oh oh oh tell me, tell me who the two obvious big candidates are!
I'm basically waiting for Pela's and romice's reactions to Gerva's claim. If neither of them calls nugpoop, then well...
I'm also randomly thinking Space might be Sera.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on May 21, 2019 22:44:21 GMT
y overthinking, I meant that there are 2 very obvious candidates for elimination but everyone is bypassing them with big theories. Oh oh oh tell me, tell me who the two obvious big candidates are! I'm basically waiting for Pela's and romice's reactions to Gerva's claim. If neither of them calls nugpoop, then well... I'm also randomly thinking Space might be Sera.
Well aren't you sarky tonight? I already laid out my theory, but my hands are tied. I was hoping some other heros might pick up on it. I trust Romice, am suspicious of Pela, and wouldn't trust Space as far as I could throw him.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 23:19:46 GMT
I already laid out my theory, but my hands are tied. I was hoping some other heros might pick up on it. I trust Romice, am suspicious of Pela, and wouldn't trust Space as far as I could throw him. You are suspicious of Space and Pela because they voted against Moon together? Isn't it oddball for two spies though to pile up two votes in a row on one person? So, in your view romice is Sera. What about Fyli (aside from the fact that she's an obvious nug and all that)?
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on May 21, 2019 23:22:48 GMT
I already laid out my theory, but my hands are tied. I was hoping some other heros might pick up on it. I trust Romice, am suspicious of Pela, and wouldn't trust Space as far as I could throw him. You are suspicious of Space and Pela because they voted against Moon together? Isn't it oddball for two spies though to pile up two votes in a row on one person? So, in your view romice is Sera. What about Fyli (aside from the fact that she's an obvious nug and all that)? I have no clue who Fyl is, and yes Pela could have innocently voted for Moon. Sera can't put herself at war I take it? EDIT - Kay, Romice is Sera, Fyl is unknown and a possible spy.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 23:28:56 GMT
I have no clue who Fyl is, and yes Pela could have innocently voted for Moon. Sera can't put herself at war I take it? Yes, she can. I don't believe though that Fyli put herself at war. If I understand correctly, first the night elimination happened and then Pela said she has no role. I feel if there was a single spy he wouldn't have made decision on their own and would have alerted Hero to the fact that they have no partner. In any case, either Pela was joined as the 3rd spy or she wasn't joined at all, but 1st night elimination occurred by at least two spies who weren't Pela.
Also, Basia went down first. I'm wandering if romice was covering her tracks. Ya know... I'd nevah do that to my Polish friend.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on May 21, 2019 23:43:54 GMT
I have no clue who Fyl is, and yes Pela could have innocently voted for Moon. Sera can't put herself at war I take it? Yes, she can. I don't believe though that Fyli put herself at war. If I understand correctly, first the night elimination happened and then Pela said she has no role. I feel if there was a single spy he wouldn't have made decision on their own and would have alerted Hero to the fact that they have no partner. In any case, either Pela was joined as the 3rd spy or she wasn't joined at all, but 1st night elimination occurred by at least two spies who weren't Pela.
Also, Basia went down first. I'm wandering if romice was covering her tracks. Ya know... I'd nevah do that to my Polish friend. I forgot about that. So first night could have been Fyl and Space as spies. I trust Romice because of something that happened......but I'm so tired I can't remember what it was now. Mebbe I should back away from da interwebs. Space is very quiet don't you think? Hmmmmmm???
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Post by Space Cowboy on May 21, 2019 23:50:45 GMT
Oh oh oh tell me, tell me who the two obvious big candidates are! I'm basically waiting for Pela's and romice's reactions to Gerva's claim. If neither of them calls nugpoop, then well... I'm also randomly thinking Space might be Sera.
Well aren't you sarky tonight? I already laid out my theory, but my hands are tied. I was hoping some other heros might pick up on it. I trust Romice, am suspicious of Pela, and wouldn't trust Space as far as I could throw him. You must have a strong arm, I'm completely innocent
And I think a strong case is being made for Fylimar, so that's where my vote will land. I ca change if the missing voters have more to say.
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Post by Space Cowboy on May 21, 2019 23:51:29 GMT
Yes, she can. I don't believe though that Fyli put herself at war. If I understand correctly, first the night elimination happened and then Pela said she has no role. I feel if there was a single spy he wouldn't have made decision on their own and would have alerted Hero to the fact that they have no partner. In any case, either Pela was joined as the 3rd spy or she wasn't joined at all, but 1st night elimination occurred by at least two spies who weren't Pela.
Also, Basia went down first. I'm wandering if romice was covering her tracks. Ya know... I'd nevah do that to my Polish friend. I forgot about that. So first night could have been Fyl and Space as spies. I trust Romice because of something that happened......but I'm so tired I can't remember what it was now. Mebbe I should back away from da interwebs. Space is very quiet don't you think? Hmmmmmm??? I just got home from work, tsk, Europeans
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on May 21, 2019 23:59:44 GMT
I forgot about that. So first night could have been Fyl and Space as spies. I trust Romice because of something that happened......but I'm so tired I can't remember what it was now. Mebbe I should back away from da interwebs. Space is very quiet don't you think? Hmmmmmm??? I just got home from work, tsk, Europeans From the nug kibble factory?
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Post by Space Cowboy on May 22, 2019 0:04:48 GMT
I just got home from work, tsk, Europeans From the nug kibble factory? Maybe Sera got 2 nugs in her trap
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on May 22, 2019 0:06:13 GMT
From the nug kibble factory? Maybe Sera got 2 nugs in her trap Oh I see, things get sticky and you start flinging the poop. Typical nug behaviour.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 0:58:01 GMT
Come to think of it, Space is acting suspicious. I'm watching you Space.
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Post by Space Cowboy on May 22, 2019 0:59:01 GMT
Maybe Sera got 2 nugs in her trap Oh I see, things get sticky and you start flinging the poop. Typical nug behaviour. Right, the person who started that is totally a nug.
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Post by Space Cowboy on May 22, 2019 1:00:16 GMT
Come to think of it, Space is acting suspicious. I'm watching you Space. I'm acting the same way in the other game, and I'm a confirmed hero there, so... *shrug*
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 2:04:35 GMT
I'm acting the same way in the other game, and I'm a confirmed hero there, so... *shrug* When you're evil and getting accused you don't really have the habit of denying it to the last when you're pressed. You tend to get into jokes more.
It doesn't seem like anyone is disputing Gerva's claim or authority, which would imply that 2/4 or 3/4 of unknown players are Nugs.
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Post by Space Cowboy on May 22, 2019 2:49:34 GMT
I'm acting the same way in the other game, and I'm a confirmed hero there, so... *shrug* When you're evil and getting accused you don't really have the habit of denying it to the last when you're pressed. You tend to get into jokes more.
It doesn't seem like anyone is disputing Gerva's claim or authority, which would imply that 2/4 or 3/4 of unknown players are Nugs.
I always joke about getting accused. I don't worry about it. But I see your point. I'm actually a hero but I'm not going to sweat suspicion on me.
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