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Post by griffith82 on Sept 2, 2018 22:52:53 GMT
For me ME1 was the weakest of the OT. What order did you play the games in? When you say weakest, I assume you still loved it? Otherwise, why even play 2 or 3? It was the most complete of the three games, and it built a compelling world that you still want to play in. Perhaps your rose tint could use some adjustment? ME1 on 360 then PC, then 2 and 3 all on pc. ME1 has the weakest gameplay, UI, inventory and dialogue. Also the environments were all copy pasted.
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Post by Sanunes on Sept 3, 2018 12:44:08 GMT
What order did you play the games in? When you say weakest, I assume you still loved it? Otherwise, why even play 2 or 3? It was the most complete of the three games, and it built a compelling world that you still want to play in. Perhaps your rose tint could use some adjustment? ME1 on 360 then PC, then 2 and 3 all on pc. ME1 has the weakest gameplay, UI, inventory and dialogue. Also the environments were all copy pasted. That is something I still don't understand with Dragon Age 2, people were all upset because of reused dungeons, but Mass Effect 1 reused one of four outpost buildings and the majority of planets you landed on felt like recolors of one another.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Sept 3, 2018 12:59:22 GMT
Felt like, but werent... Prefabs are a thing though already.
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Post by kalreegar on Sept 3, 2018 13:44:25 GMT
It's the only hope to save the franchise. It is as simple as that.
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Post by Phantom on Sept 3, 2018 15:55:06 GMT
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 3, 2018 17:26:38 GMT
Superb Mass Effect game will save Mass Effect regardless of Galaxy or Hero. I think people are confusing quality vs location.
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Post by Phantom on Sept 3, 2018 17:36:39 GMT
Superb Mass Effect game will save Mass Effect regardless of Galaxy or Hero. I think people are confusing quality vs location. true they do. I can see the argument for staying in Andromeda with either Ryder as the hero due to the potential of it also having another hero within Andromeda as well. Also If we go back to the Milk Way galaxy, I can see several possible heroes ranging from a Prequel to Con Current to Post Reaper War. I do have several possible Player characters in my head right now and One of them is a C-Sec Human officer and he has an Turian friend and a Vorcha. The Vorcha like many vorcha loves a good fight and is encouraging the C-Sec Human Officer to go into the vigilant route and fight bad guys of all stripes. For example, a New faction idea of mine is the Black Talon can be re-used for C-Sec Human Officer storyline.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 3, 2018 17:38:30 GMT
I'm not all that interested in a prequel or concurrent story. To me, the only way is forward.
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 4, 2018 2:18:01 GMT
Spitballing here: these would all take place during Shepard’s arc and nothing needs to be retconned. @bioware staff hire me. LOL jk A family escaping a reaper infested world, with your choices affecting whether or not a certain member lives or dies a la Until Dawn. Make it survival horror-like. A video game version of A Quiet Place. Maybe they encounter a futuristic version of Doomsday prepper and shit takes a spooky turn. A private eye on Omega finds a terrified young up and comer in the gangs in their office, they are tasked with finding a missing notable figure in the galaxy- celebrity, politician, etc. who was kidnapped by said gang for ransom. They escaped and are stuck on the dingy dangerous station and all of these criminals are looking for them for various reasons. A young soldier in a small group of twenty something soldiers (each with different backgrounds ex-member of gang, war refugee, maybe even different species) are forced to get along and work together in an elite Alliance training school. Members can be killed, romanced, friends, rivals- maybe there’s a conspiracy at hand- maybe a dire mission. Overall, I believe grounded stories have so much potential and with a futuristic lens would be SO unique. Also they could experiment with different genres and themes and messages, and not feel like they’re taking a chance with a big budget game or something. Not everything has to be “end of the world” a small story based game would be low risk and force them to come back to what really made BioWare shine: the story. Also if they’re relatively short time commitments, they can make them heavily choice based with lots of replay value. I like that one.
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Post by kalreegar on Sept 4, 2018 8:51:56 GMT
Superb Mass Effect game will save Mass Effect regardless of Galaxy or Hero. Yes, hypothetically speaking. But let's face reality. The LORE is soooo important, especially in a rpg based on exploration. ME 1-3 LORE is almost a miracle, one of the best SCI-FI lore ever, the feeling you have traveling around the milky one is unique. ME:A LORE is at best a pale, recycled imitation, totally lacking the genius and the originality of the previous games. Same for the characters/companions Secondly, the quality of bioware writers has dropped. A lot of great talents are gone, and now they bargain between banality and politically correctness. Dragon Age Inquisition was a good/decent game just because it stands on the shoulders of giants. So: can bioware create a new, great, original lore, new great characters, etc? No, it can't. To compete with ME1-3 lore&characters would be difficult even for CD Prodject or Naugthy Dogs, much less bioware right now... So, if bioware people are smart, they will rely on the good things created by more talented people than them. IMO.
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Post by deus on Sept 4, 2018 13:12:53 GMT
I say scrap Andromeda and pretend it never happened. Most of the Milky Way is still unexplored. If they set it far into the future there is plenty they can work with.
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Post by frozone on Sept 4, 2018 14:04:08 GMT
I'd rather not.. personally I feel like Shepard's story and the story of the Milky Way is done.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 4, 2018 14:41:53 GMT
Felt like, but werent... Prefabs are a thing though already. True but some areas had the wrong interior and the planets were pretty much the same just with a re colored sky and terrain.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 4, 2018 14:43:38 GMT
I say scrap Andromeda and pretend it never happened. Most of the Milky Way is still unexplored. If they set it far into the future there is plenty they can work with. You'd still have bitching. TBH no ME game will please everyone. They just need to finish what they started and damn the consequences.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 4, 2018 15:24:38 GMT
You'd still have bitching. TBH no ME game will please everyone. True That's right. Even with the reapers destroyed, Hackett wants to make sure they're no longer a threat. Shepard heads to darkspace to make sure.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 4, 2018 15:51:42 GMT
You'd still have bitching. TBH no ME game will please everyone. True That's right. Even with the reapers destroyed, Hackett wants to make sure they're no longer a threat. Shepard heads to darkspace to make sure. Nope. I'm 1000% against that.
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Post by Phantom on Sept 4, 2018 20:51:07 GMT
I know people love Ryder both of them. I will give them a chance in future titles. I know that within the Mass Effect Universe that Shepard is a celebrity and I would like an UnSung Hero that is capable like Shepard but not as famous.
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Post by deus on Sept 5, 2018 0:15:37 GMT
I say scrap Andromeda and pretend it never happened. Most of the Milky Way is still unexplored. If they set it far into the future there is plenty they can work with. You'd still have bitching. TBH no ME game will please everyone. They just need to finish what they started and damn the consequences. 1. I wouldn't be bitching because they never should have left the milky way 2. EA will never greenlight another game in Andormeda because of the disaster the first one was.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 5, 2018 1:21:04 GMT
You'd still have bitching. TBH no ME game will please everyone. They just need to finish what they started and damn the consequences. 1. I wouldn't be bitching because they never should have left the milky way 2. EA will never greenlight another game in Andormeda because of the disaster the first one was. 1. I would as yes they needed to leave. 2. It wasn't a disaster so yes they might.
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 5, 2018 17:04:31 GMT
You'd still have bitching. TBH no ME game will please everyone. True That's right. Even with the reapers destroyed, Hackett wants to make sure they're no longer a threat. Shepard heads to darkspace to make sure. Don't you mean Reapers handing out synthesized flowers while everyone gathers at the first summit hosted by both Geth and Quarians?
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 5, 2018 17:07:30 GMT
I say scrap Andromeda and pretend it never happened. Most of the Milky Way is still unexplored. If they set it far into the future there is plenty they can work with. Well that's kind of the problem. Assuming they actually stuck with the Milky Way setting and committed to an ending, its effects are permanent throughout all known parts of the galaxy. Even if only 1+% of the galaxy is explored, that 1% is the only part of it we really give a shit about, and they altered it drastically for all time in a number of ways. There's no amount of time that would undo Shepard's final decision. The only option here would be to just pick one. Question is, which portion of the fan base do they piss off next?
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 5, 2018 17:13:27 GMT
So regarding the "disaster" of Andromeda, I do wonder: if BioWare decided to snort some coke, pop open a case of redbulls and actually put their nose to the grindstone to double-down on Andromeda's plot threads, how would it do if they actually delivered what we (we meaning nitpickiest of fans) could consider a great game? Would it simply fail because of the brand or would old fans gravitate towards it, realize that it's not fertilizer and let word of mouth do the rest?
All this shit about the Milky Way kills me, because I distinctly remember fans reeling like BioWare killed their childhoods. The greatness of the trilogy left in ruin, cats living with dogs, mass hysteria, and BioWare salted the earth so nothing could really grow there again, at least not without massive retcons.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 5, 2018 17:50:46 GMT
So regarding the "disaster" of Andromeda, I do wonder: if BioWare decided to snort some coke, pop open a case of redbulls and actually put their nose to the grindstone to double-down on Andromeda's plot threads, how would it do if they actually delivered what we (we meaning nitpickiest of fans) could consider a great game? Would it simply fail because of the brand or would old fans gravitate towards it, realize that it's not fertilizer and let word of mouth do the rest? All this shit about the Milky Way kills me, because I distinctly remember fans reeling like BioWare killed their childhoods. The greatness of the trilogy left in ruin, cats living with dogs, mass hysteria, and BioWare salted the earth so nothing could really grow there again, at least not without massive retcons. IKR? I didn't mind the endings but there's a reason the old bsn shut down.
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Post by Sanunes on Sept 5, 2018 17:54:26 GMT
You'd still have bitching. TBH no ME game will please everyone. They just need to finish what they started and damn the consequences. 1. I wouldn't be bitching because they never should have left the milky way 2. EA will never greenlight another game in Andormeda because of the disaster the first one was. 1. What makes the Milky Way so special they should have never left. How different is Andromeda over being stranded in some unknown part of the Milky Way completely cut off from Earth and the Alliance with no possible way or reestablishing contact? Pretty much the same plot as Andromeda just instead of being in Andromeda its in the Milky Way with zero difference in plot, characters, approach, tone, etc. 2. How do you know it was a disaster, Andrew Wilson has been positive about the game in multiple financial reports to investors where it is illegal to mislead them and they are trigger happy to sue as well.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 5, 2018 19:19:01 GMT
Don't you mean Reapers handing out synthesized flowers while everyone gathers at the first summit hosted by both Geth and Quarians? Would those flowers be similar to one's seen in Horizon Zero Dawn?
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