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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 23:10:43 GMT
When do you guys think the next comic will be announced? I'm dying for something from DA.😬😵⚰
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Post by gervaise21 on May 9, 2019 16:26:21 GMT
When do you guys think the next comic will be announced? I suppose it depends on how much they want to progress plotlines in Tevinter when the game is likely going to be based there. The last comic ended with something pretty significant happening on the world stage. That was also true of the novels Asunder and Masked Empire in relation to DAI (with events in each happening pretty much in parallel with one another), with the game kicking off just after that time-wise, or at least with no significant events in the intervening period. So for another comic to be issued before the game, I think it would have to have a fairly self-contained plot that didn't unduly affect the bigger picture. I suppose a lot depends on how far off the game release is going to be.
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Post by thats1evildude on May 9, 2019 18:04:16 GMT
Nunzio made it pretty clear he and Christina were writing these characters strictly for the comics (though they wouldn’t mind if they were featured in the game’s). I think there has to be at least one more comic after this to bring this “red lyrium in Tevinter” business to an end.
As for the sacking of Qarinus, I think that’s significant but doesn’t need special attention. As I’ve said before, I think that’s just how the Qunari-Tevinter wars go. The Qunari make a push that gets far into Tevinter, then they get pushed out, then the Tevinter retaliate with an offensive on Sehefon, then the Qunari retaliate and round and round it goes, where it stops nobody knows.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 9, 2019 20:13:39 GMT
As for the sacking of Qarinus, I think that’s significant but doesn’t need special attention. As I’ve said before, I think that’s just how the Qunari-Tevinter wars go. The Qunari make a push that gets far into Tevinter, then they get pushed out, then the Tevinter retaliate with an offensive on Sehefon, then the Qunari retaliate and round and round it goes, where it stops nobody knows. Actually it is significant. The Qunari's last offensive on mainland Tevinter was in 9:12 and was directed at Qarinus and the surrounding countryside but successfully repelled. It was such a humiliating defeat for them that it resulted in demotion for the Kathaban in charge of the navy. The entry (in connection with Sten) said this "The Kathanban's attacks initially made good progress but the Qunari footholds in Tevinter, as always, were eventually torn apart by Tevinter legions heavily reinforced by mages". Because Tevinter and the Qun have never called a truce in their on-going war, I was surprised in the comic that Qarinus/Ventus and the surrounding countryside wasn't better defended, particularly as people seemed to be expecting an attack. It is obvious that the Qun would wish to take Qarinus because it is in an important strategic location. It is because they did take Qarinus and Seheron in their surprise attacks back in the Steel Age that enabled them to claim such significant sections of the eastern half of Thedas. It was due to Tevinter recovering Qarinus that enabled them to push back the Qun and for a time recover Seheron as well during the Storm Age. Whilst the Qun eventually managed to re-take the majority of Seheron, without the element of surprise they were unsuccessful in subsequent attacks on the eastern Imperium. So the fact that the city did appear to have fallen at the end of the comic was a significant event. Now it is entirely possible that it was only a small advanced force of Qunari, which could subsequently be driven back and the writers could return the game world to the previous status quo by the beginning of DA4. However, the epilogue to Trespasser did say that Tevinter was taken by surprise when the Qunari shifted their attention north and began a renewed assault on the mainland, so events in the comic were consistent with this. Thus the end of the comic and the end of Trespasser seemed to have reached the same point in the timeline. Anything more going forward in the comics would intrude on the future, which is why I think that if there is another story it will deal with something that can be kept totally separate to what is going on in the game or simply alluded to by characters in game but otherwise not involved with our PC's story. For example, they might say that there was a threat that was thwarted by agents of the Inquisition. Readers of the comics would know it referred to something those characters had done but otherwise it would not be relevant to the game.
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Post by thats1evildude on May 9, 2019 22:31:50 GMT
I'm just saying that I don't think we need the invasion of the city to play out in the game. Historically, Qarinus has been conquered and held by the qunari at least once before in the Steel Age. It's certainly a blow to the Tevinter Imperium, but it's happened before. It can be acknowledged via a "By the way, Qarinus fell, so that tells you how badly the war with the Qunari is going."
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Post by Iddy on May 13, 2019 14:17:50 GMT
FINALLY SOMETHING TO SLAKE THE THRIST edit: kind of bothers me that they changed Qarinus, though. Personally, I'm glad. That name was too weird.
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Post by Little Bengel on May 13, 2019 22:05:48 GMT
FINALLY SOMETHING TO SLAKE THE THRIST edit: kind of bothers me that they changed Qarinus, though. Personally, I'm glad. That name was too weird. I liked it. It was more unique than Ventus. And in any event, nothing about that name change made any sense. Nothing.
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Post by theascendent on May 14, 2019 9:59:14 GMT
I am a bit confused by the Qunari's motive, do they plan on occupying the city and converting the population? From what I saw they look like they are planning on razing the city to the ground which is very cost effective. Ventus/Qarinus is their foothold into the heartland of Tevinter, they'll need it's port to ferry supplies and troops from Seheron and Par Vollen, not to mention the defences of the city, which could be improved and properly garrisoned. From what I saw in Deception the Tevinter army seems something to be desired. And yet they have razed a considerable part of the city to the ground. Any ideas for their MO on how they have conducted the campaign so far?
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Post by gervaise21 on May 14, 2019 16:28:32 GMT
It does seem rather unlike them to destroy something they could use. May be they were just going for the houses of the nobility (on the basis they are corrupted by magic) and will retain those areas of practical use, like the docks and warehouses. After all the harbour will be useable even without any accompanying structures. Those citizens they wish to convert will probably be carted off to Qunathras, the island fortress off the east coast of Seheron that seems to be used for the purposes of re-educating bas in the region. Then when they are returned, they will construct more acceptable forms of housing than the fancy old mage structures, or may be they will have been constructed already by their former superiors (the mages) who will have been dosed with qamek the instant they were captured and then utilised as manual labour.
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Post by phoray on May 14, 2019 18:56:00 GMT
It does seem rather unlike them to destroy something they could use. May be they were just going for the houses of the nobility (on the basis they are corrupted by magic) and will retain those areas of practical use, like the docks and warehouses. After all the harbour will be useable even without any accompanying structures. Those citizens they wish to convert will probably be carted off to Qunathras, the island fortress off the east coast of Seheron that seems to be used for the purposes of re-educating bas in the region. Then when they are returned, they will construct more acceptable forms of housing than the fancy old mage structures, or may be they will have been constructed already by their former superiors (the mages) who will have been dosed with qamek the instant they were captured and then utilised as manual labour. Wow I hadn't thought it through Those mages must be terrified. Chemical irreversible Tranquility.
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Post by thats1evildude on May 14, 2019 19:06:56 GMT
I am a bit confused by the Qunari's motive, do they plan on occupying the city and converting the population? From what I saw they look like they are planning on razing the city to the ground which is very cost effective. Venture/Qarinus is their foothold into the heartland of Tevinter, they'll need it's port to ferry supplies and troops from Seheron and Par Vollen, not to mention the defences of the city, which could be improved and properly garrisoned. From what I saw in Deception the Tevinter army seems something to be desired. And yet they have razed a considerable part of the city to the ground. Any ideas for their MO on how they have conducted the campaign so far? Keep in mind that in the process of trying to conquer Kirkwall, they also set fire to much of the city. They did this to limit movement and to eliminate opposition. Really, they only need the harbour. I doubt most Qunari would want to reside in the houses of magisters anyway. Then when they are returned, they will construct more acceptable forms of housing than the fancy old mage structures, or may be they will have been constructed already by their former superiors (the mages) who will have been dosed with qamek the instant they were captured and then utilised as manual labour. The Qunari never capture unleashed saarebas. Too dangerous - they could be corrupted by demons. They just kill them. Those mages must be terrified. Chemical irreversible Tranquility. Qamek is worse than the Rite of Tranquility. The Tranquil may be robbed of emotions, but at least they can still think for themselves. Those subjected to qamek become mindless slaves.
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Post by Iddy on May 14, 2019 19:15:47 GMT
It does seem rather unlike them to destroy something they could use. May be they were just going for the houses of the nobility (on the basis they are corrupted by magic) and will retain those areas of practical use, like the docks and warehouses. After all the harbour will be useable even without any accompanying structures. Those citizens they wish to convert will probably be carted off to Qunathras, the island fortress off the east coast of Seheron that seems to be used for the purposes of re-educating bas in the region. Then when they are returned, they will construct more acceptable forms of housing than the fancy old mage structures, or may be they will have been constructed already by their former superiors (the mages) who will have been dosed with qamek the instant they were captured and then utilised as manual labour. Didn't they try to destroy Kirkwall?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 20:29:24 GMT
It does seem rather unlike them to destroy something they could use. May be they were just going for the houses of the nobility (on the basis they are corrupted by magic) and will retain those areas of practical use, like the docks and warehouses. After all the harbour will be useable even without any accompanying structures. Those citizens they wish to convert will probably be carted off to Qunathras, the island fortress off the east coast of Seheron that seems to be used for the purposes of re-educating bas in the region. Then when they are returned, they will construct more acceptable forms of housing than the fancy old mage structures, or may be they will have been constructed already by their former superiors (the mages) who will have been dosed with qamek the instant they were captured and then utilised as manual labour. Didn't they try to destroy Kirkwall? So? Who doesn't want to destroy Kirkwall?
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on May 15, 2019 14:32:38 GMT
It does seem rather unlike them to destroy something they could use. May be they were just going for the houses of the nobility (on the basis they are corrupted by magic) and will retain those areas of practical use, like the docks and warehouses. After all the harbour will be useable even without any accompanying structures. Those citizens they wish to convert will probably be carted off to Qunathras, the island fortress off the east coast of Seheron that seems to be used for the purposes of re-educating bas in the region. Then when they are returned, they will construct more acceptable forms of housing than the fancy old mage structures, or may be they will have been constructed already by their former superiors (the mages) who will have been dosed with qamek the instant they were captured and then utilised as manual labour. I mean... You're right and I knew all this before you posted it (except I don't think we have precedent for qamek being used on mages?). But the way you say it.... new shivers again. I really want to get in game and fight the Qun back. I don't even like Tevinter, really. But the Qun is just... Yeah.
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Post by warden on May 15, 2019 14:45:09 GMT
Didn't they try to destroy Kirkwall? So? Who doesn't want to destroy Kirkwall? What do you mean? I feel intrigued as I don't catch it right now.
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Post by thats1evildude on May 15, 2019 14:49:35 GMT
So? Who doesn't want to destroy Kirkwall? What do you mean? I feel intrigued as I don't catch it right now. Everyone hates Kirkwall.
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Post by warden on May 15, 2019 14:53:59 GMT
What do you mean? I feel intrigued as I don't catch it right now. Everyone hates Kirkwall. ah yeah. it's Hawke's fault though, lmao.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 15, 2019 19:03:29 GMT
The Qunari never capture unleashed saarebas. Too dangerous - they could be corrupted by demons. They just kill them. Not true. World of Thedas states under the entry concerning qamek: A poison used on the hopeless who refuse to be re-educated, as well as on captured magic users (who are considered already hopeless.This is the point. Bas saarebas cannot be trusted but the Qunari waste nothing so they simply destroy their minds. Nothing left there for demons to possess, so they can be allowed to live and serve the Qun. I mean... You're right and I knew all this before you posted it (except I don't think we have precedent for qamek being used on mages?). But the way you say it.... new shivers again. I really want to get in game and fight the Qun back. I don't even like Tevinter, really. But the Qun is just... Yeah. This is why all that apparent harmless banter between Dorian and Iron Bull so annoyed me, particularly if Bull is still loyal to the Qun. I wanted to yell at Dorian, "no you idiot, he wouldn't just sew your mouth shut, he'd do worse than your father was proposing to do, or at least his precious Ben-Hassrath would". It is why I find it perfectly understandable that Tevinter would refuse to compromise where the Qun were concerned and considered it a betrayal for the rest of Thedas to sign a peace treaty with them. How can you make a peace with people who literally want to destroy your mind? That is way worse than simply trying to control it with magic because there is no possibility of healing/reversal/cure. You are lobotomised into a mindless drudge. It is also why I understand and approve of Solas' absolute abhorrence of them. There are many things about the Qun philosophy which I think would make for a fairer society and this is probably how a lot of non-mages are won over but right back to DAO it is their attitude to mages which meant I would always side with Tevinter against them or with the slaves against them both.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 15, 2019 19:13:59 GMT
Didn't they try to destroy Kirkwall? I imagine because it was corrupted beyond redemption by magic. They conquered it back in the Steel Age by stealth, attacking in the middle of the night and gaining control before anyone could stop them. So there was no need for destruction and they could utilise the city effectively for their purposes. After dealing with the mages in the Gallows, I dare say they found it a useful place of incarceration for those who proved most resistant to re-education until they decided whether to dose them with qamek or not. However, in the Dragon Age the Arishok had the time to observe the city and how difficult it seemed to root out the rogue mages within it, so he probably did think it didn't matter if it got damaged in his take-over so long as they had the docks, the chains to block the sea passage and the walls to protect from land armies attempting to take it back. Even so, from what I recall they didn't do that much damage. Certainly not the amount of damage that Anders caused when he blew up the Chantry.
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Post by thats1evildude on May 15, 2019 20:00:38 GMT
Not true. World of Thedas states under the entry concerning qamek: A poison used on the hopeless who refuse to be re-educated, as well as on captured magic users (who are considered already hopeless.This is the point. Bas saarebas cannot be trusted but the Qunari waste nothing so they simply destroy their minds. Nothing left there for demons to possess, so they can be allowed to live and serve the Qun. Fair enough, although that somewhat contradicts Iron Bull's point that your mage party members would all be killed if the Qun invaded the South, along with Cole.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 15, 2019 20:13:31 GMT
Fair enough, although that somewhat contradicts Iron Bull's point that your mage party members would all be killed if the Qun invaded the South, along with Cole. Hissrad probably thought that sounded better than telling you that everyone would be lobotomised automatically, particularly if you are a mage. There are a few things that he says that don't quite square with what we were previously told but as Gatt stated, his Qunari name effectively meant liar, which means the Qun recognised he was rather good at deception and bending the truth to suit their purposes. He says to a lover that he gives people what he considers they need, not what they say they want. I reckon that also applies when it comes to information and the truth. He tells you what you need to hear to further the aims of the Qun.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 15, 2019 21:48:27 GMT
Fair enough, although that somewhat contradicts Iron Bull's point that your mage party members would all be killed if the Qun invaded the South, along with Cole. Hissrad probably thought that sounded better than telling you that everyone would be lobotomised automatically, particularly if you are a mage. There are a few things that he says that don't quite square with what we were previously told but as Gatt stated, his Qunari name effectively meant liar, which means the Qun recognised he was rather good at deception and bending the truth to suit their purposes. He says to a lover that he gives people what he considers they need, not what they say they want. I reckon that also applies when it comes to information and the truth. He tells you what you need to hear to further the aims of the Qun. Except in that very same conversation he brings up how people with strong will who wouldn’t convert would have that done to them.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on May 16, 2019 2:40:35 GMT
I do hope we'll see how the Qun is treating prisoners of war and conquered peoples in the next game. I'd love some missions where we have to try to free a specific vip who's been taken to a processing center/education camp, or we help liberate a city. (Or help the Qunari keep it, I suppose, if that's what you are in to.)
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Post by gervaise21 on May 16, 2019 16:13:44 GMT
Except in that very same conversation he brings up how people with strong will who wouldn’t convert would have that done to them Did he explicitly go into details of what qamek does? I don't recall that and it is why I always thought he was either being dishonest to the Inquisitor or himself about the consequences of the Qun conquering the south. Also, considering the mage/Templar war was largely sparked off by the tranquil issue he probably did think that mentioning doing something to mages that was even worse might not be the best policy.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on May 24, 2019 4:59:29 GMT
I haven't read the comics or the thread, but i see a hardcover containing issues #1-#3 for sale, and I wanted to ask you guys if that was a complete storyline or if there are more issues coming?
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