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Post by mattig89ch on Dec 18, 2018 2:05:26 GMT
The trick with St. John's Wort is making sure you're actually getting it. There's an ongoing problem in the herbal supplement business with companies actively substituting cheaper plant materials for the product on the label. Yea, I ordered some off amazon, and I think its the real deal. But I forgot to order once, and picekd up some at the super market. and it clearly wasn't having the same effect.
idk if its a placebo effect, or something else. but the amazon one works for me, and the supermarket one clearly doesn't.
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Post by Cybear on Dec 18, 2018 18:36:08 GMT
I was diagnosed with clinical depression when I was around 12/13 (along with a few other things), I was given anti-depressants to deal with it but my body is a fickle thing and it apparently hated the helping hand. For the next four/five years I would be given multiple different drugs, and all of them had the same result - making my depression worse. At one point it even drove me to attempt suicide, funnily enough even after that incident they still tried to medicate me, and it wasn't until I was about seventeen and I went cold-turkey on my meds (for a very long and personal reason) that I stopped. After the meds left my system completely (a month or two) it was like I was a different person, who was terrified of who I had been. Not only had the medications made my depression worse but they'd also driven me into manic episodes (I honestly have so much respect for people who have mental illnesses that include manic-depressive episodes because it was undoubtedly the worst times of my life).
But while I say that I am currently on medication. For a few years I was fine, but another depressive episode hit me earlier this year, putting me in a place easily as bad as I was when I was suicidal (honestly if I didn't have the responsibility of my dogs, I don't know what would've gotten me through the thick of it). My aunt also has depression and like me, have been on multiple medications over the years, also like me she suffers from chronic migraines (which, fun fact, anti-depressants can make a lot worse), she recommended I speak to my doctor about a relatively new drug that she'd been taking for the last year and had no problems with. I brought it up with him, and the result has been rather positive. The first week was hell and was practically a constant migraine, but since then everything's been smooth sailing. I'm still by no means in a 'good place', but I've been feeling better than I have in years.
I think the overall question as to when/how long someone should be medicated is much too vague. For some people it will be a life-time support, and something that they need to keep themselves afloat. For other people they may only need help during practically nasty depressive episodes, or perhaps medications don't work well for them, and they need to find some kind of other external source to help them. (I do not recommend this, but I am a smoker and nicotine has definitely helped me out during the worst of it, as well with helping me with my ADHD which I cannot be medicated for.) I think having something to keep you anchored to reality is a good external support - so, for example, my dogs and knowing they rely on me to take care of them.
It's really just an individual basis, and I don't think there's really a right or wrong answer.
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Post by Sweet FA on Dec 18, 2018 20:34:34 GMT
For years, after a suicide attempt in 1998-1999, I was on anti-depressants. I don't recall them actually making much of a difference. I tried a few different ones and finally gave up and told the doctors what I thought they wanted to hear. Thing is, when I weaned myself off of them, I didn't feel any different. When I quit drinking, and whatever else I was doing, my mood started to improve. I found that I could face problems, fears, etc. without medication. I also learned that everyone experiences ups and downs and that trying to remove the downs is a disservice. Always looking to be "happy" is a recipe for self-destruction.
I'm aware that some people can't survive without medication. I'm also aware that for some it is useful for alleviating a temporary mood problem. Thing is, I see lots of people on these anti-depressants forever when they could have just got the "bump" needed to get them out of the depression, at which point they could slowly stop.
What I wonder is, why is this rarely done? Why are we medicating away our lives when maybe we don't always have to?
Not sure why this all came to mind. Mother died recently and it's only just starting to feel it. Only, I don't want to use meds. I want to experience the lows and the highs. Opinions, even if they aren't listed in the poll?
Nine years ago my father died after a long degenerative illness at this time of year and his funeral took place a week before Christmas so I do sympathize with your situation and offer you my sincere condolences regarding the loss of your mother. Initially after my father's death I felt numb and stunned it was only a little time after the funeral that it really hit home and I started to feel really raw and eventually broke down. At first you're in a kind of shock and then it hit's you like an overwhelming wave of emotion later on. So these days December can sometimes be a bitter sweet melancholy time for me, but it usually picks up once I get past the "anniversary" time and I usually feel great by the end of the month eg Christmas Eve/Day and New Year's Eve/Day (Hogmanay here in Scotland). I always remember my father taking a wee dram and making a toast to absent friends at the New Year when I was younger, now I do the same for him. Sometimes when I'm in a bar and I'm having a Whisky (Scotch) I feel his presence (not literally or any supernatural nonsense more like a memory or feeling), it's a nice comforting feeling and I have a wee drink for him and my other relative's. It makes me feel that everything's fine and thing's are going to be alright.
For Dad....
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 18, 2018 20:38:09 GMT
Honestly, I'm more concerned with my father than myself or my brother. He was fine during Thanksgiving, and he did start putting up Christmas decorations, but I'm wondering how he'll be during Christmas. Then, once my mother's birthday and their wedding anniversary rolls around, he might have an even harder time. I guess my main thing is to spend my time being there for him. They were together for 54 years so it's difficult for my father to handle.
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Post by nanotm on Dec 19, 2018 14:17:30 GMT
Honestly, I'm more concerned with my father than myself or my brother. He was fine during Thanksgiving, and he did start putting up Christmas decorations, but I'm wondering how he'll be during Christmas. Then, once my mother's birthday and their wedding anniversary rolls around, he might have an even harder time. I guess my main thing is to spend my time being there for him. They were together for 54 years so it's difficult for my father to handle. one thing living through loss and depression has taught me is a different way to look on life, yes its shit when someone dies and is no longer with you but you can either honour them and the good memories of them by continuing to live and look to the best things in life or you can focus on the pain and shrivel up inside, sure everyone is different but somethings are universal, my daughter would be 15 if she was still alive do I focus on that or the way she lit up when I came home from work, do I focus on what could have been or on the joy she gave me, getting lost in the bad side of life is easy just look at all the addicts out there, desperate to escape from the prison they made in their mind out of the bad things in life.. me If I feel down I escape to games or fantasy lands through books or movies, then I look around myself at the rest of my family and thank the cosmos that I still have people, the only concession I have made to myself is that if I get a bad diagnosis then I will sort myself out not wait for it to happen, I think ive suffered enough both physically and mentally and I wont willingly do it again /
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 5:48:03 GMT
Just because I think more people should know the effects of these pills. Antidepressants Affect Feelings of Love for PartnerResearchers found that men's feelings of love tended to be affected more than women's by taking antidepressants called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), which work mainly through the serotonin system. In contrast, drugs called tricyclic antidepressants, which affect the serotonin system less, seem to affect women's feelings of love more than men's, the researchers said.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 25, 2019 8:00:52 GMT
I used to take antidepressants and anti-anxiety meds. At some point I decided I didn't need them anymore. (Obviously I gave myself an imaginary PhD ) I weaned myself off of them and discovered I didn't feel especially different. I suspect had I not done so I might have been a lifer with that stuff. Anyway, I started having more of a life and things got better. Even so, it's very likely that alcoholism was the root problem.
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