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Post by eliscous on Aug 2, 2018 14:35:33 GMT
I would to open a topic concerning the dwarf Gorim. You may encounter him as a merchant in Denerim but you may also, if you are a dwarf, meet him sooner in your orgin story as a friend or even more (for female noble dwarf). What do you think of him? What is your ending concerning this character? And more generally do you enjoy playing a dwarf?
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Post by mousestalker on Aug 2, 2018 15:25:47 GMT
All 3 of my nobles romanced him which led to heart break and factory direct discounts later on.  Apparently guilt leads to him paying more, which is nice but doesn't quite make up for being dumped. |
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Post by copper on Aug 3, 2018 1:53:32 GMT
Gorim's one of my favorite temporary companions. I'd definitely have preferred a dwarf like him instead of Oghren, who I don't dislike but do find a bit too stereotypical.
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Post by eliscous on Aug 3, 2018 8:10:45 GMT
Gorim's one of my favorite temporary companions. I'd definitely have preferred a dwarf like him instead of Oghren, who I don't dislike but do find a bit too stereotypical. I agree. He would have been more interessant. Oghren is really stereotypical and it is difficult to have real conversation with him due to the fact that he is continualy drunk. |
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Post by eliscous on Aug 3, 2018 8:15:43 GMT
All 3 of my nobles romanced him which led to heart break and factory direct discounts later on. Apparently guilt leads to him paying more, which is nice but doesn't quite make up for being dumped. What he pity, we cannot fix that  If the female dwarf warden survived does he also show up at the end of the game demanding to becomme a her secund again?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 3, 2018 8:35:25 GMT
Clearly the relationship didn't mean much to Gorim, since only a few months later he is married to someone else.
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Post by eliscous on Aug 3, 2018 9:02:10 GMT
Clearly the relationship didn't mean much to Gorim, since only a few months later he is married to someone else. The big problem in DA and more specificaly in DAO is the timeline. According to where you are heading first it can be only a short few months (directly after Lothering) or almost a year (before the landsmeet). In the last case it most comprehensible that he has moved on (not necessary getting married so fast and almost a father but still). In the first case, it is not really understable. The Gorim in Orzammar seams so different than the Gorim in Denerim. I have the impression it is almost a another character.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 3, 2018 9:19:14 GMT
Clearly the relationship didn't mean much to Gorim, since only a few months later he is married to someone else. The big problem in DA and more specificaly in DAO is the timeline. According to where you are heading first it can be only a short few months (directly after Lothering) or almost a year (before the landsmeet). In the last case it most comprehensible that he has moved on (not necessary getting married so fast and almost a father but still). In the first case, it is not really understable. The Gorim in Orzammar seams so different than the Gorim in Denerim. I have the impression it is almost a another character.
True, however no matter what you have to go to Denerim during the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest so that always makes it only a matter of a few months to maybe over half a year. Still seems way to quick for him to cross Ferelden, meet his wife, and have the whole relationship from first encounter to marriage occur. Plus it sounds like they’ve been married a bit by the time you meet him. Most likely it was just a writing issue and failed to get addressed. |
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Post by eliscous on Aug 3, 2018 9:39:21 GMT
The big problem in DA and more specificaly in DAO is the timeline. According to where you are heading first it can be only a short few months (directly after Lothering) or almost a year (before the landsmeet). In the last case it most comprehensible that he has moved on (not necessary getting married so fast and almost a father but still). In the first case, it is not really understable. The Gorim in Orzammar seams so different than the Gorim in Denerim. I have the impression it is almost a another character.
True, however no matter what you have to go to Denerim during the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest so that always makes it only a matter of a few months to maybe over half a year. Still seems way to quick for him to cross Ferelden, meet his wife, and have the whole relationship from first encounter to marriage occur. Plus it sounds like they’ve been married a bit by the time you meet him. Most likely it was just a writing issue and failed to get addressed. Yeah it seams more an excuse to have him out of the picture even if it fits not really the character.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 14:55:58 GMT
I really liked him, he was a great companion for my female dwarf. It made meeting him in Denerim all the more bitter, he was a little too quick to move on in my Warden's opinion. She then felt zero regret falling into Zevran's arms instead.
I wish they'd done more with him, more with the whole Dwarven story post-Ostagar tbh. Going back to Orz was rather underwhelming, and Gorim's content reflects that.
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Post by Iddy on Aug 3, 2018 16:21:25 GMT
DWARVEN CRAFTS! FINE DWARVEN CRAFTS DIRECT FROM ORZAMMAR!
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Post by copper on Aug 3, 2018 18:21:54 GMT
The big problem in DA and more specificaly in DAO is the timeline. According to where you are heading first it can be only a short few months (directly after Lothering) or almost a year (before the landsmeet). In the last case it most comprehensible that he has moved on (not necessary getting married so fast and almost a father but still). In the first case, it is not really understable. The Gorim in Orzammar seams so different than the Gorim in Denerim. I have the impression it is almost a another character.
True, however no matter what you have to go to Denerim during the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest so that always makes it only a matter of a few months to maybe over half a year. Still seems way to quick for him to cross Ferelden, meet his wife, and have the whole relationship from first encounter to marriage occur. Plus it sounds like they’ve been married a bit by the time you meet him. Most likely it was just a writing issue and failed to get addressed. While the real issue is likely bad writing, I wonder how much of it is Gorim latching on to the first dwarf family who will accept him on the surface. Here he is, exiled out of his homeland and without a purpose, traveling in a strange new world. With Gorim's wife, he gets to be around other dwarves and gain some sense of purpose. Judging by how quickly he offers to be your second again post battle of Denerim, it wasn't an ideal situation for him, but rather a way to cope with his exile. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 18:44:26 GMT
True, however no matter what you have to go to Denerim during the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest so that always makes it only a matter of a few months to maybe over half a year. Still seems way to quick for him to cross Ferelden, meet his wife, and have the whole relationship from first encounter to marriage occur. Plus it sounds like they’ve been married a bit by the time you meet him. Most likely it was just a writing issue and failed to get addressed. While the real issue is likely bad writing, I wonder how much of it is Gorim latching on to the first dwarf family who will accept him on the surface. Here he is, exiled out of his homeland and without a purpose, traveling in a strange new world. With Gorim's wife, he gets to be around other dwarves and gain some sense of purpose. Judging by how quickly he offers to be your second again post battle of Denerim, it wasn't an ideal situation for him, but rather a way to cope with his exile. Well shucks now you're making me feel bad.  |
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Post by eliscous on Aug 7, 2018 12:52:44 GMT
True, however no matter what you have to go to Denerim during the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest so that always makes it only a matter of a few months to maybe over half a year. Still seems way to quick for him to cross Ferelden, meet his wife, and have the whole relationship from first encounter to marriage occur. Plus it sounds like they’ve been married a bit by the time you meet him. Most likely it was just a writing issue and failed to get addressed. While the real issue is likely bad writing, I wonder how much of it is Gorim latching on to the first dwarf family who will accept him on the surface. Here he is, exiled out of his homeland and without a purpose, traveling in a strange new world. With Gorim's wife, he gets to be around other dwarves and gain some sense of purpose. Judging by how quickly he offers to be your second again post battle of Denerim, it wasn't an ideal situation for him, but rather a way to cope with his exile. It was indeed not a easy situation for him but there are other possiblities to adapt to a new life, find a place and a purpose than marrying the first wowan he met and get her pregnant in the process ;-) That is still rude at least. |
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Post by Walter Black on Aug 9, 2018 19:19:25 GMT
True, however no matter what you have to go to Denerim during the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest so that always makes it only a matter of a few months to maybe over half a year. Still seems way to quick for him to cross Ferelden, meet his wife, and have the whole relationship from first encounter to marriage occur. Plus it sounds like they’ve been married a bit by the time you meet him. Most likely it was just a writing issue and failed to get addressed. While the real issue is likely bad writing, I wonder how much of it is Gorim latching on to the first dwarf family who will accept him on the surface. Here he is, exiled out of his homeland and without a purpose, traveling in a strange new world. With Gorim's wife, he gets to be around other dwarves and gain some sense of purpose. Judging by how quickly he offers to be your second again post battle of Denerim, it wasn't an ideal situation for him, but rather a way to cope with his exile. Another factor I think is that deep down, Gorim never truly felt worthy of Lady Aeducan. He was always making self depreciating jokes or pointing out how she needed to be available for a potential political alliance marriage. Some may judge the character for not wanting to marry for love, but the realities of nobility and the Dwarven caste system were too ingrained in him.
As far as interacting with Gorim after Lothering, I prefer waiting until I recruit Ohgren. Hearing Steve Blum argue with himself always brings a smile to my face  . |
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Post by Sonya on Dec 12, 2019 10:43:33 GMT
In general - like Gorim. But he always breaks my FemDwarf heart whenever I play a NobleDwarfOrigin. Even named a dog after him =)
Seems dedicated, always helps with advice. After that shit with set up at least he managed to settle down on the surface (that he married, well, in my mind he just moved on, considering where my GW was and could have been killed).
Would like more dialogues with Gorim as we knew each other a long time and had a history together, but we've got just a small of it.
In short: a good guy, whom I like.
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