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Post by N7Pathfinder on Aug 8, 2018 9:43:02 GMT
MEA2 or bust Death to the Milky Way Unless there is another novel that pops up after "Annihilation" is released in October that will address the dangling plot threads left at the end of MEA, I'd say the odds are good they'll return to Andromeda with a sequel. I hope this doesn't happen. I want to play it, not read it from a book.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Aug 8, 2018 10:39:55 GMT
I'm just really worried about Mass Effect 5. There is just so much that we don't know. It really feels like they're hiding something from us. 3 posts on the ME boards and you're already becoming the problem. You aren't the moderator of me
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 8, 2018 10:41:17 GMT
I wanted to like this post, but I just couldn't bring myself to destroy this: Ain't it just... EVIL?!
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Aug 8, 2018 10:42:27 GMT
Is it full of SJW suckage? Press F to pay EAWare? I don't know. Are you looking to find reasons for me to not want to play? Sure, no one needs Hainly forcing her trans status down everyone's throats. It's not like that's something trans people really do anyway. And I'd certainly scrap the idea that some asari use a male pronoun. But what else was really SJW? I've always wondered. See...now I'm not sure if my joke was too subtle, or if yours is.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 8, 2018 11:26:21 GMT
Is that a me or you thing? Because it sounds like a you thing.
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Those comic strips never get old. 😁
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Post by ropedrink on Aug 8, 2018 12:44:17 GMT
This. I don't get that first comment. I think it's safe to say that ME:A won't get a direct sequel but I'd like to think that when I shelve MEA-SP I'll have a save with all my true decisions ready, just in-case it is something where ME:A has any bearing on it whatsoever... But I would imagine a new ME would involve another 'fresh start' and 'references' at best. Deleted a near-complete save just to start over and do one with all my genuine decisions. Aside from that, have no interest in thinking about it until we know something is officially on the way - will reserve my excitement until then.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Aug 8, 2018 12:52:47 GMT
Is that a me or you thing? Because it sounds like a you thing. It's a me thing.
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Is that a me or you thing? Because it sounds like a you thing. It's a me thing. Me as on you or me as in me?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 13:53:40 GMT
MEA2 or bust Death to the Milky Way
I'd have to agree with this. Milky Way had it's time in the sun.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Aug 8, 2018 14:02:26 GMT
Me as on you or me as in me? Me as on you...
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Me as on you or me as in me? Me as on you... Ah. Glad we cleared that up.
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Aug 8, 2018 14:14:08 GMT
Who would even be excited for it after ME:A? I didn't really think ME:A was a *bad* game. (In fact, I'm probably going to give it a second playthrough soon.) I saw it as somewhat akin to DA:I - a great 40-50 hour game hiding inside 100 or so hours of content. Bioware would have to be pretty obtuse not to have understood that people weren't too impressed with their efforts at "more and bigger" in either game and that maybe they ought to tighten the narrative next time. Anthem seems like a different beast that may or may not mean anything as to Bioware's future direction with the DA and ME franchises.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Aug 8, 2018 14:32:11 GMT
Andromeda 2: Now with 95% less suck meh is a good idea.
Alternatively I would also go for an Archer treatment for the original characters. No, not writing them like Archer (though Archer Mass Effect would be hilarious) but rather what they've been doing for the past couple of seasons- remixing the characters in new settings. Forget canon, forget the Reapers, it's the characters people love. So take them and make more stories with them. Mix in different genres, switch around character roles (i.e. make heroes villains and vice versa). Experiment.
It'll probably never happen. But a man can dream...
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 8, 2018 14:37:26 GMT
This. I don't get that first comment. I think it's safe to say that ME:A won't get a direct sequel but I'd like to think that when I shelve MEA-SP I'll have a save with all my true decisions ready, just in-case it is something where ME:A has any bearing on it whatsoever... But I would imagine a new ME would involve another 'fresh start' and 'references' at best. Deleted a near-complete save just to start over and do one with all my genuine decisions. Aside from that, have no interest in thinking about it until we know something is officially on the way - will reserve my excitement until then. For the last N7 Day BioWare added Mass Effect Archives to their social website so you want to create an import with your true decisions you won't have to replay to make sure you get the exact outcome. I know for me I am too much of a completionist to have a perfect import like I was with Mass Effect 1 and 2.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 8, 2018 14:38:52 GMT
Andromeda 2: Now with 95% less suck meh is a good idea. Alternatively I would also go for an Archer treatment for the original characters. No, not writing them like Archer (though Archer Mass Effect would be hilarious) but rather what they've been doing for the past couple of seasons- remixing the characters in new settings. Forget canon, forget the Reapers, it's the characters people love. So take them and make more stories with them. Mix in different genres, switch around character roles (i.e. make heroes villains and vice versa). Experiment. It'll probably never happen. But a man can dream... My guess is that BioWare will go the route of "less internet outrage to try and protect sales" approach. To me unfortunately means there are things that are going to be cut to make sure the issues like the facial animations don't happen again so less conversations and other moments that required animators.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 8, 2018 14:40:03 GMT
Andromeda 2: Now with 95% less suck meh is a good idea. Alternatively I would also go for an Archer treatment for the original characters. No, not writing them like Archer (though Archer Mass Effect would be hilarious) but rather what they've been doing for the past couple of seasons- remixing the characters in new settings. Forget canon, forget the Reapers, it's the characters people love. So take them and make more stories with them. Mix in different genres, switch around character roles (i.e. make heroes villains and vice versa). Experiment. It'll probably never happen. But a man can dream... You forgot this: Andromeda 2: Now with 200% more derpness.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Aug 8, 2018 14:47:28 GMT
My guess is that BioWare will go the route of "less internet outrage to try and protect sales" approach. To me unfortunately means there are things that are going to be cut to make sure the issues like the facial animations don't happen again so less conversations and other moments that required animators. While "nuke from orbit" is the standard BioWare approach to any criticized feature, fewer* conversations will also be heavily criticized and lead to outrage since it's the dialog wheel that us hamsters keep running on. *
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 8, 2018 15:02:02 GMT
My guess is that BioWare will go the route of "less internet outrage to try and protect sales" approach. To me unfortunately means there are things that are going to be cut to make sure the issues like the facial animations don't happen again so less conversations and other moments that required animators. While "nuke from orbit" is the standard BioWare approach to any criticized feature, fewer* conversations will also be heavily criticized and lead to outrage since it's the dialog wheel that us hamsters keep running on. * Its not about preventing outrage, but more about convincing people not to buy the game. The idea won't be to prevent outrage for I doubt any BioWare product will ever be able to do that, but to prevent people from walking away from buying the game. I had several friends that believed the narrative some were talking about how bad all the animations were until I demonstrated the game to them. So having the outrage of "not enough of the good stuff" versus the "don't buy this, here is an example of why" I think is more about the potential no-sales then preventing the outrage itself.
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Post by ropedrink on Aug 8, 2018 15:02:56 GMT
Fewer conversations won't work. While I'm sure there are some out there playing the ME franchise on the premise of "Sci-Fi" or "RPG" or "Exploration", it's the characters/space-opera that makes it what it is. I also don't buy that type of viewpoint when they've had many past-games that don't suffer from the problems this title had. In Andromeda's case, they had a new team - a team who, if ever working on something together again, will always have the ME:A memetastic blowback as a reminder of why cutting corners to rush out the product isn't good. Small details matter, such as not having standard NPCs look like playdough monsters and by having your facial animations correct (I mean come on, 50% of the game involves chit-chat).
Old DA's, old ME's, they didn't have half of the problems ME:A had, yet there was still a solid title buried beneath the obvious issues. I doubt the Tempest Crew will be as remembered as the trilogy's, but that's due to them typically having more games and less issues hanging over them - but the Tempest Crew was solid and likeable. They could thrive in a better handled title, but like CC above said, I'm banking money on Andromeda getting the same treatment the Milky Way did - an orbital nuke followed by 'references' to past decisions. It makes it easier for writers to slot in mentions - that way the new title doesn't become weighted under all the decisions we made in previous games, even if that is what makes them so engaging, makes the world feel more lived-in and variable.
In Andromeda, they're not overly complex decisions by any means, but there's enough for additional writing to be required -- and as we've seen with ME2 and ME3, all those decisions add up into a super-complex web that makes things difficult for them, no matter how awesomely engaging it is for us to have those choices carry over three games.
Eg. things like the: First outpost choice (can be written off). First Murder charge (pretty much concluded already). Handling the protestors (concluded/mostly irrelevant).
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Leadership of Kadaara (important) Current Pathfinders (important'ish) Temporary Council (not overly important, but does require some kind of writing/reference due to it being the obvious intro into a new Andromeda game/setting).
etc etc
In short, Andromeda is in a sweet spot - there's no massive overhanging decision webs to complicate a new Andromeda title (bar a few), so the only issue is wether they feel the previous reputation of Andromeda's release is too big a profit-risk. Ultimately, I can't help feel like it'll just be swept under the rug for a brand new ME with different focuses and some hand-me-down past references, but let's face it, I'm sure most of us would be happy just to have more Mass Effect rather than none.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 8, 2018 16:24:14 GMT
I don't know. Are you looking to find reasons for me to not want to play? Sure, no one needs Hainly forcing her trans status down everyone's throats. It's not like that's something trans people really do anyway. And I'd certainly scrap the idea that some asari use a male pronoun. But what else was really SJW? I've always wondered. See...now I'm not sure if my joke was too subtle, or if yours is. I think you were too subtle for me. I haven't seen enough of your posts to get a sense of your thinking. I've seen far too much of the SJW complaints and no one has ever accused me of backing down when I see something I think is wrong - online or in real life.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 8, 2018 16:31:13 GMT
Indifferent about Peebee but I'd love to have seen Ryder shoot Addison in the head. If you're going to give Ryder free reign to deal with finding worlds to inhabit doesn't it make sense to remove anyone who stands in the way of it? That's Addison. And Spender.
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