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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jun 12, 2019 10:56:44 GMT
I miss the grounded dark atmosphere of the original. The sequels just try to get more and more outlandish as they go on. It reminds me a lot of Mad Max Beyond the thunderdome. A series of gritty and brutal survivor action suddenly becomes an unoriginal family friendly toned down comedic action flick. Thankfully it got back on track with Fury Road. For Terminator I have little hope, if any at all.
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Post by Sifr on Jun 25, 2019 18:10:20 GMT
True, but he did shill Genisys hard in interviews.
The only excuse I'll buy for him selling out like that, is that it would have been harder for him to get the rights back if he trashed it?
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Post by Lavochkin on Jun 25, 2019 19:45:51 GMT
True, but he did shill Genisys hard in interviews.
The only excuse I'll buy for him selling out like that, is that it would have been harder for him to get the rights back if he trashed it?
Well, he's buds with Arnie, so...
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Post by Terminator Force on Jun 25, 2019 20:22:32 GMT
True, but he did shill Genisys hard in interviews.
The only excuse I'll buy for him selling out like that, is that it would have been harder for him to get the rights back if he trashed it?
You wouldn't shill for your best buddy and lots of money?
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Post by Sifr on Jun 26, 2019 22:41:57 GMT
You wouldn't shill for your best buddy and lots of money? True, but did Cameron do any press for T3 or Salvation, let alone heap praise on them as being his ideal sequel to T2?
(Okay, Arnie wasn't technically in Salvation besides a CGI body-double)
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Post by Lavochkin on Jun 28, 2019 5:38:26 GMT
You wouldn't shill for your best buddy and lots of money? True, but did Cameron do any press for T3 or Salvation, let alone heap praise on them as being his ideal sequel to T2?
(Okay, Arnie wasn't technically in Salvation besides a CGI body-double)
Cameron did say he "liked" T3 back in the day.
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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Jul 18, 2019 12:27:22 GMT
The best Terminator was the first one. By far.
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Post by Iakus on Jul 18, 2019 21:16:24 GMT
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Post by cribbian on Jul 19, 2019 9:09:26 GMT
If the leaks are to be believed he will indeed be killed of so the girl can be the new savior of humanity
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Post by Sifr on Jul 19, 2019 10:04:58 GMT
If the leaks are to be believed he will indeed be killed of so the girl can be the new savior of humanity Reminds me of when the plot for Salvation was leaked that John Connor would be killed and replaced by a Terminator, resulting in fan backlash that made them realise what a horrible mistake that would be and quickly changing the ending. Say what you will about that film, but at least they listened to the fans.
Unfortunately, the producers of Genisys apparently forgot about the previous backlash, so chose to have John Connor "killed" or rather assimilated by Skynet to become the Terminator equivalent of Locutus of Borg. Fans hated it.
Unfortunately, the producers of Dark Fate apparently forgot about the previous backlash, so if leaks are true, now plan to have John Connor killed off. I imagine that fans will have plenty to say about that, but I don't think it's quite what the producers expect it to be.
Because much like the time travel, the plots of Terminator films are trapped in an endless repeating loop, where the more things change, the more they stay the same.
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Post by House Targaryen on Jul 19, 2019 15:29:41 GMT
I'm all for women getting their due in heroic roles in movies, books, etc, but now we're just pushing it. The movie already has an all girl team now you want to kill off the savoir of humanity and have him be replaced by one of these girl hero's?
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Post by Vortex13 on Jul 19, 2019 17:12:39 GMT
I'm all for women getting their due in heroic roles in movies, books, etc, but now we're just pushing it. The movie already has an all girl team now you want to kill off the savoir of humanity and have him be replaced by one of these girl hero's? That's identity politics/3rd wave feminism for you. In the words of Sovereign (which is very apt for Skynet as well): "Organic life is nothing but a genetic mutation. An accident."
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Post by Lavochkin on Jul 20, 2019 16:33:00 GMT
Between this and the news of the latest James Bond, looks like I'll be saving a bit of dough.
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Post by House Targaryen on Jul 20, 2019 16:49:48 GMT
I'm sure the new spy girl will be dropping her pants to all the boys like Bond did to all of the girls.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jul 20, 2019 17:25:42 GMT
The best Terminator was the first one. By far.
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Post by Hier0phant on Jul 20, 2019 17:56:39 GMT
I'm sure the new spy girl will be dropping her pants to all the boys like Bond did to all of the girls. Nah. She'll drug and rob all the men instead, and will unironically be celebrated by feminists for it.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jul 20, 2019 18:18:39 GMT
You can have third wave feminism and you can have good movies. You cant have both.
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Post by Lavochkin on Jul 21, 2019 4:48:28 GMT
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Post by Iakus on Jul 21, 2019 15:30:06 GMT
Damn, looks like I was right.
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Post by House Targaryen on Jul 21, 2019 16:32:28 GMT
I'm going to have to start cheering on the bad guys now. Sad.
Its human nature to destroy ourselves any way, be truthful and let the apocalypse happen.
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Post by Sifr on Jul 21, 2019 16:48:12 GMT
I love Arnie and he will always be the Terminator, but sometimes I feel like his continued presence has been a bit of an albatross around the neck of the franchise.
With each new film, they keep needing to shoe-horn a reason for the future resistance to send back (obsolete) T-800s against increasingly more powerful new models, along with come up with reasons for why his particular model has obviously aged since '84.
I think it'd be honestly better to do a hard reboot and start fresh with an entirely new cast, rather than keep (failing at) attempting to quasi-reboot the series with alternate timelines or ignoring previous continuity.
Otherwise, why not take the best parts of Salvation and Genisys and do an entire film set after Judgement Day, about Resistance planning their final assault against Skynet and capturing the time travel facility?
You actually could have Arnold appear in such a post-JD film as a human leader within the Resistance, bitter that Skynet has co-opted his image for the T-800. It'd allow him to appear, yet give him a completely new badass character to play and have the audience enjoy.
The explanation for why Skynet would do this was even set up in T2, where it was mentioned that Skynet has "detailed files" on human psychology. What better way than to wage psychological warfare against the resistance by making it seem like their own "leaders" are the ones hunting them down? Not to mention, sow fear and paranoia amongst the humans that even their leaders might be Terminators in disguise.
(For added points, you could give Robert Patrick a role in the film as another "copied" Resistance leader.)
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Post by Heimdall on Aug 8, 2019 15:47:24 GMT
^ Best Terminator sequel idea I’ve heard in a long time.
This franchise doesn’t really have a reason to exist anymore, but they will have to let go of Arnold to really make it work. The more convoluted they make the time travel nonsense, which already didn’t make much sense after T2, the less compelling it becomes.
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Post by Lavochkin on Aug 9, 2019 9:27:44 GMT
T3 could have very easily have been a sequel/prequel set in the future that would lead up to Reese and the three terminators from T1/2 traveling back in time.
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Post by Iakus on Aug 9, 2019 19:27:42 GMT
^ Best Terminator sequel idea I’ve heard in a long time. This franchise doesn’t really have a reason to exist anymore, but they will have to let go of Arnold to really make it work. The more convoluted they make the time travel nonsense, which already didn’t make much sense after T2, the less compelling it becomes. The tv series The Sarah Connor Chronicles actually made for a decent continuation of the story. Skynet actually hit a number of points throughout history trying to preserve its existence and preemptively weaken the resistance. And a number of humans were sent back to stop them (including Kyle Reese's brother) The whole thing became a sort of secret war being fought in the past as both sides stockpiled caches of supplies for the future, targeted individuals for assassination (or recruitment), gather intel, etc. Pity it got canceled just as it started getting really interesting
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 9, 2019 19:32:36 GMT
^ Best Terminator sequel idea I’ve heard in a long time. This franchise doesn’t really have a reason to exist anymore, but they will have to let go of Arnold to really make it work. The more convoluted they make the time travel nonsense, which already didn’t make much sense after T2, the less compelling it becomes. The tv series The Sarah Connor Chronicles actually made for a decent continuation of the story. Skynet actually hit a number of points throughout history trying to preserve its existence and preemptively weaken the resistance. And a number of humans were sent back to stop them (including Kyle Reese's brother) The whole thing became a sort of secret war being fought in the past as both sides stockpiled caches of supplies for the future, targeted individuals for assassination (or recruitment), gather intel, etc. Pity it got canceled just as it started getting really interesting I always wondered what happened to that show...
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