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When can I trigger this banter? Aug 26, 2018 8:34:34 GMT

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Post by LadyofNemesis on Aug 26, 2018 8:34:34 GMT

Aug 25, 2018 22:30:46 GMT Iddy said:

I really want to get the one where Hawke says "Everything I know about being a scoundrel, I learned from you two" to Varric and Isabela.

I think it happens in Mark of the Assassin, but I'm not sure.

I've noticed that the banters in MotA are triggered at random, so you may have to find a spot where dialogue triggers, safe before it and reload until you get the banter you want

and yes, it's a MotA banter, Hawke needs to have the Purple personality though ^_^

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When can I trigger this banter? Aug 26, 2018 22:14:10 GMT via mobile

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Post by Iddy on Aug 26, 2018 22:14:10 GMT

Aug 26, 2018 8:34:34 GMT LadyofNemesis said:

Aug 25, 2018 22:30:46 GMT Iddy said:

I really want to get the one where Hawke says "Everything I know about being a scoundrel, I learned from you two" to Varric and Isabela.

I think it happens in Mark of the Assassin, but I'm not sure.

I've noticed that the banters in MotA are triggered at random, so you may have to find a spot where dialogue triggers, safe before it and reload until you get the banter you want

and yes, it's a MotA banter, Hawke needs to have the Purple personality though ^_^

I keep reloading, but it's always the same three banters ;_;

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When can I trigger this banter? Aug 27, 2018 16:23:58 GMT

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Post by LadyofNemesis on Aug 27, 2018 16:23:58 GMT

Aug 26, 2018 22:14:10 GMT Iddy said:

Aug 26, 2018 8:34:34 GMT LadyofNemesis said:

I've noticed that the banters in MotA are triggered at random, so you may have to find a spot where dialogue triggers, safe before it and reload until you get the banter you want

and yes, it's a MotA banter, Hawke needs to have the Purple personality though ^_^

I keep reloading, but it's always the same three banters ;_;

hm, then I don't know...maybe try a different spot?

I'm not sure which spots you need to be in to trigger banter

I know of a few sure ones

1: in the dungeon after defeating the Chasind

2: after (I think) defeating the dragonlings when baiting the wyvern when you go up the path to your left (before the altar area though)

but I don't recall all of them from memory :rollseyes:

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When can I trigger this banter? Aug 27, 2018 17:09:49 GMT

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Post by LadyofNemesis on Aug 27, 2018 17:09:49 GMT

Aug 27, 2018 16:43:11 GMT ArcadiaGrey said:

13:00 mark, looks to me like it's the track to the wyvern.

hm, seeing as Iddy is talking about the dialogue where Izzy and Varric are talking about stealing, I think it might be triggered after being in the prison

I believe there's also a point in the dungeon itself, but I can't recall the exact spot (except the one after defeating Cahir)

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‘Hawke this, Hawke that,’ Why does everything fall to me? - Champion of Kirkwall
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When can I trigger this banter? Aug 27, 2018 17:11:08 GMT via mobile

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Post by Iddy on Aug 27, 2018 17:11:08 GMT

Aug 27, 2018 16:23:58 GMT LadyofNemesis said:

Aug 26, 2018 22:14:10 GMT Iddy said:

I keep reloading, but it's always the same three banters ;_;

hm, then I don't know...maybe try a different spot?

I'm not sure which spots you need to be in to trigger banter

I know of a few sure ones

1: in the dungeon after defeating the Chasind

2: after (I think) defeating the dragonlings when baiting the wyvern when you go up the path to your left (before the altar area though)

but I don't recall all of them from memory :rollseyes:

I haven't made it that far, but I'll keep that in mind.

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When can I trigger this banter? Sept 1, 2018 20:23:38 GMT via mobile

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Post by Iddy on Sept 1, 2018 20:23:38 GMT

Man, I can't believe how hard this has been.

I saved and reloaded multiple times before each banter trigger spot, but I just can't get it. I'm about to leave the cave after escaping the dungeons.

And yes, I am playing snarky Hawke with Varric and Isabela in the party.

The banter I'm getting the most is the one about Hawke's nickname.

Last Edit: Sept 1, 2018 20:24:54 GMT by Iddy

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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 1, 2018 20:54:10 GMT

Sept 1, 2018 20:23:38 GMT Iddy said:

Man, I can't believe how hard this has been.

I saved and reloaded multiple times before each banter trigger spot, but I just can't get it. I'm about to leave the cave after escaping the dungeons.

And yes, I am playing snarky Hawke with Varric and Isabela in the party.

The banter I'm getting the most is the one about Hawke's nickname.

damn, then I don't know

I often find that many dlc dialogues don't trigger for me at all...or incorrectly

such as during the Legacy dlc I always get the rivalry dialogues with the siblings even when they're on friendship <_<

I just want Carver to be nice to me, just once :crying:

Always something to be killed, and I’m the one to do it – Hero of Ferelden
‘Hawke this, Hawke that,’ Why does everything fall to me? - Champion of Kirkwall
Our concern must be the order and safety of this world, not the next. - The Inquisitor

People are messy, but they're trying, and I'm going to make sure they get that chance - Commander Shepard

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When can I trigger this banter? Sept 1, 2018 21:25:46 GMT

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Post by Catilina on Sept 1, 2018 21:25:46 GMT

Sept 1, 2018 20:54:10 GMT LadyofNemesis said:

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Sept 1, 2018 20:23:38 GMT Iddy said:

Man, I can't believe how hard this has been.

I saved and reloaded multiple times before each banter trigger spot, but I just can't get it. I'm about to leave the cave after escaping the dungeons.

And yes, I am playing snarky Hawke with Varric and Isabela in the party.

The banter I'm getting the most is the one about Hawke's nickname.

damn, then I don't know

I often find that many dlc dialogues don't trigger for me at all...or incorrectly

such as during the Legacy dlc I always get the rivalry dialogues with the siblings even when they're on friendship <_<

I just want Carver to be nice to me, just once :crying:

I suppose Carver quite nice here (middle stage, a slowly formed friendship)
(sorry for the quality)

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and here too (at least he want to be nice, if Hawke let him to be...)

SPOILER: Click to show

Last Edit: Sept 1, 2018 21:26:25 GMT by Catilina

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When can I trigger this banter? Sept 2, 2018 9:59:35 GMT Catilina likes this

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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 2, 2018 9:59:35 GMT

Sept 1, 2018 21:25:46 GMT Catilina said:

Sept 1, 2018 20:54:10 GMT LadyofNemesis said:

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damn, then I don't know

I often find that many dlc dialogues don't trigger for me at all...or incorrectly

such as during the Legacy dlc I always get the rivalry dialogues with the siblings even when they're on friendship <_<

I just want Carver to be nice to me, just once :crying:

I suppose Carver quite nice here (middle stage, a slowly formed friendship)
(sorry for the quality)

SPOILER: Click to show

and here too (at least he want to be nice, if Hawke let him to be...)

SPOILER: Click to show

yeah, I do always get those dialogues during the dlc and at the end, but I was actually talking about the regular party banter during the dlc

for example:

Fenris: You must hate the darkspawn, after what they did to your home.

(Warden +Rivalry) Carver: I don't know that I hate them exactly. It's... deeper than that. But yes, after what happened to Bethany, I won't let that go. So I fight.

^this is the one I always get, no matter if he's on friendship or rivalry
(Warden +Friendship) Carver: I don't know that I hate them exactly. It's... deeper than that. But I hate what happened to Bethany, and many more like her.

^and this is the one you're supposed to get if he's on friendship path

it's the same with Bethany, I had her maxed on friendship and she still gave me the line of:

Bethany: They are mindless. What is there to blame? May as well swear at a force of nature. I don't see the point.

Fenris: That's... an interesting perspective.

(Circle +Rivalry) Bethany: Oh, good. I almost choked on it a little there. A work in progress.

whilst friendship is this one > (Circle+ Friendship)Bethany: It's... taken a long time to reach it. Thank you.

now I don't know it's intentional or if my game is just bugged <_<

either way I find it highly annoying

Always something to be killed, and I’m the one to do it – Hero of Ferelden
‘Hawke this, Hawke that,’ Why does everything fall to me? - Champion of Kirkwall
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People are messy, but they're trying, and I'm going to make sure they get that chance - Commander Shepard

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When can I trigger this banter? Sept 2, 2018 11:10:30 GMT

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Post by Catilina on Sept 2, 2018 11:10:30 GMT

Sept 2, 2018 9:59:35 GMT LadyofNemesis said:

Sept 1, 2018 21:25:46 GMT Catilina said:

SPOILER: Click to show

Sept 1, 2018 21:25:46 GMT Catilina said:

I suppose Carver quite nice here (middle stage, a slowly formed friendship)
(sorry for the quality)

SPOILER: Click to show

and here too (at least he want to be nice, if Hawke let him to be...)

SPOILER: Click to show

yeah, I do always get those dialogues during the dlc and at the end, but I was actually talking about the regular party banter during the dlc

for example:

Fenris: You must hate the darkspawn, after what they did to your home.

(Warden +Rivalry) Carver: I don't know that I hate them exactly. It's... deeper than that. But yes, after what happened to Bethany, I won't let that go. So I fight.

^this is the one I always get, no matter if he's on friendship or rivalry
(Warden +Friendship) Carver: I don't know that I hate them exactly. It's... deeper than that. But I hate what happened to Bethany, and many more like her.

^and this is the one you're supposed to get if he's on friendship path

it's the same with Bethany, I had her maxed on friendship and she still gave me the line of:

Bethany: They are mindless. What is there to blame? May as well swear at a force of nature. I don't see the point.

Fenris: That's... an interesting perspective.

(Circle +Rivalry) Bethany: Oh, good. I almost choked on it a little there. A work in progress.

whilst friendship is this one > (Circle+ Friendship)Bethany: It's... taken a long time to reach it. Thank you.

now I don't know it's intentional or if my game is just bugged <_<

either way I find it highly annoying

Oh, I see, I misunderstood you. It's probably a bug, but Carver written for rivalry basically, and Bethany for friendship. (Carver's full friendship and Bethany's full rivalry's is hard, almost impossible – but I heard, someone succeded...)

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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 2, 2018 13:10:42 GMT

Sept 2, 2018 11:10:30 GMT Catilina said:

Sept 2, 2018 9:59:35 GMT LadyofNemesis said:

SPOILER: Click to show

yeah, I do always get those dialogues during the dlc and at the end, but I was actually talking about the regular party banter during the dlc

for example:

Fenris: You must hate the darkspawn, after what they did to your home.

(Warden +Rivalry) Carver: I don't know that I hate them exactly. It's... deeper than that. But yes, after what happened to Bethany, I won't let that go. So I fight.

^this is the one I always get, no matter if he's on friendship or rivalry
(Warden +Friendship) Carver: I don't know that I hate them exactly. It's... deeper than that. But I hate what happened to Bethany, and many more like her.

^and this is the one you're supposed to get if he's on friendship path

it's the same with Bethany, I had her maxed on friendship and she still gave me the line of:

Bethany: They are mindless. What is there to blame? May as well swear at a force of nature. I don't see the point.

Fenris: That's... an interesting perspective.

(Circle +Rivalry) Bethany: Oh, good. I almost choked on it a little there. A work in progress.

whilst friendship is this one > (Circle+ Friendship)Bethany: It's... taken a long time to reach it. Thank you.

now I don't know it's intentional or if my game is just bugged <_<

either way I find it highly annoying

Oh, I see, I misunderstood you. It's probably a bug, but Carver written for rivalry basically, and Bethany for friendship. (Carver's full friendship and Bethany's full rivalry's is hard, almost impossible – but I heard, someone succeded...)

hm...I see, but it doesn't explain why I get the rivalry dialogues even when I'm on friendship, with Bethany having the same problem

ah well...guess I'll just have to pretend the friendship dialogues are used regardless

I don't have that problem with the MotA party dialogues though, they trigger just fine

I kinda wish I knew what triggers certain party dialogues depending on friendship/rivalry so that I could maybe make a mod for it or something (if I knew how to mod, which I don't :lol:

)

Last Edit: Sept 2, 2018 13:32:08 GMT by LadyofNemesis

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