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Post by wickedcool on Nov 17, 2018 14:59:36 GMT
Feels like ones that look like a maze are for merchants and scholars. Cant see that much work for dusters
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Post by Nightscrawl on Nov 17, 2018 21:39:47 GMT
Feels like ones that look like a maze are for merchants and scholars. Cant see that much work for dusters But merchants and scholars are not casteless and so do not have to wear a brand.
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Post by spectre4hire on Nov 18, 2018 18:29:14 GMT
It's been great catching up with this thread from where I left off. It's wonderful to see so much activity and discussion even when DA4 has no official release date.
I've been still playing and enjoying my Arlan Aeducan playthrough in Origins, of a spoiled prince slowly changing his way, he gets some help from a certain Orlesian bard.
I also agree with Gomez's point about killing Trian, that's how I played it including with Arlan. It's hard to explain, but it just feels more reasonable of him to be exiled for actually doing it. It also adds more to his redemption arc as he struggles with being a kinslayer instead of someone who just got framed by Bhelen. By killing his brother and being tricked by Bhelen it helps to show how he was so blinded by ambition and greed that he didn't see he had already fallen before he was ever exiled.
But that's just my take, I respect what others have say and their thoughts on the matter, and do sometimes just have him be framed.
Also Gomez, your fic of Brosca and Leliana was awesome. A treat to read of a under appreciated pairing. Thanks so much for sharing.
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Post by wickedcool on Nov 18, 2018 21:20:43 GMT
Did bhelen speed up his fathers death?
I wonder if triangle had worked with his sibling could they have survived the ambush (could train have won if he knew the attack was coming)
Gatsi -knowledge of mosaics but is he a duster?
Sorry to beat a dead horse. Just looking for a rhyme or reason to face tattoos
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Post by Nightscrawl on Nov 18, 2018 21:29:53 GMT
if triangle had worked with his sibling Damn you, auto correct! waves fist
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Post by Curious Crow on Nov 18, 2018 23:16:05 GMT
Did bhelen speed up his fathers death? I wonder if triangle had worked with his sibling could they have survived the ambush (could train have won if he knew the attack was coming) Gatsi -knowledge of mosaics but is he a duster? Sorry to beat a dead horse. Just looking for a rhyme or reason to face tattoos Wouldn't have been surprised if Bhelen slipped something into his fathers tea to speed things up, since I think it's a known fact he did spend quite some time alone with him. We don't know how many or even who attack Trian if the Warden doesn't plan to kill him, so it would be hard to say. But I know Bhelen has a fail safe if the Warden tries to talk his brother down when they confront each other. Since that dirty scout starts the fight if you don't. I don't think Gatsi is a duster. He was a stone mason back in Orzammar and did the sculpture for Paragon Branka but left when he found out she was bonkers. So he was artisan caste in Orzammar, so he probably was taught a whole bunch about mosaics and stuff before he left. So his face tattoo is probably more of a personal adornment rather than a brand. Like how the Aeducan warden can have their own face tattoos without being counted as branded. Figure the Brand it self is the S sign on the Dwarf commoners cheek, but some might decide to embellish it, like if you make a tattoo you regret you might choose to add on to it to make it look better. Which is why the Dwarf commoners face tattoos all include the S. Also it's why Sigrun has the S on her tattoo but Kardol and other Legion members don't. So the S would be brand, the skull face on the Legion of the Dead would be their brand and then there might be some who chose to tattoo something else on them because they figured it looked good and not because their Caste required it.
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Post by Sifr on Nov 23, 2018 0:49:38 GMT
if triangle had worked with his sibling Damn you, auto correct! waves fistIf only that was his name, the Assembly might have given him a ringing endorsement!
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Post by wickedcool on Nov 23, 2018 20:10:53 GMT
Just realized after many many playthroughs that my dwarf 2 hander in dai can smash open regular locked doors I do hope in da4 we get to play as dwarves again and we get dao style beards
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Post by Walter Black on Nov 24, 2018 15:36:51 GMT
Speculation: Endrin II is one of Bioware's ways of cutting off the branches; if we picked Bhelen, the kid assumes his father's throne. If we picked Harrowmont, he and secret Aeducan loyalist stage a coup.
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Post by copper on Nov 24, 2018 16:21:18 GMT
Speculation: Endrin II is one of Bioware's ways of cutting off the branches; if we picked Bhelen, the kid assumes his father's throne. If we picked Harrowmont, he and secret Aeducan loyalist stage a coup. Doesn't Harrowmont name Endrin II as his heir anyway? Maybe I'm just mixing things up since I rarely pick Harrowmont to rule.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Nov 25, 2018 0:28:54 GMT
Doesn't Harrowmont name Endrin II as his heir anyway? Maybe I'm just mixing things up since I rarely pick Harrowmont to rule. Is this stated somewhere outside of the game(s)? Or I suppose it could be in a DA2 or DAI codex that I haven't read. But I do know it's not mentioned in DAO itself. I recently did a play and I always pick Harrowmont. This is the first I've heard of it.
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Post by copper on Nov 25, 2018 3:27:26 GMT
Doesn't Harrowmont name Endrin II as his heir anyway? Maybe I'm just mixing things up since I rarely pick Harrowmont to rule. Is this stated somewhere outside of the game(s)? Or I suppose it could be in a DA2 or DAI codex that I haven't read. But I do know it's not mentioned in DAO itself. I recently did a play and I always pick Harrowmont. This is the first I've heard of it. I'm probably just confused then. I was thinking of Rica's dialogue post final battle, but she could easily just be saying Harrowmont is allowing her and her son to remain part of House Aeducan.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Nov 25, 2018 8:12:03 GMT
I'm probably just confused then. I was thinking of Rica's dialogue post final battle, but she could easily just be saying Harrowmont is allowing her and her son to remain part of House Aeducan. I suppose I should clarify that my main canon isn't a dwarf. The one time I played a dwarf it was Aeducan back in 2009, so there would have been no reason for Rica to be there after the final battle. With my previous post, I was mainly looking for evidence to suggest that Endrin II exists regardless of the PC's actions/choices (including origin). Rica certainly exists, and she still has a relationship with Behlen, so it seems likely.
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Post by wickedcool on Nov 26, 2018 16:10:09 GMT
Going to start a new dwarf noble. Is there a way to leave orzamer with any money or stuff?i can’t remember if I can keep anything before being sent to deep roads ? How about the credit from lord dace?
Amazed at the detail they placed with just the trip to the market. I hope that whoever is in charge of da4 mini quests sees these
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Post by Iddy on Nov 26, 2018 16:31:24 GMT
Going to start a new dwarf noble. Is there a way to leave orzamer with any money or stuff?i can’t remember if I can keep anything before being sent to deep roads ? How about the credit from lord dace? Amazed at the detail they placed with just the trip to the market. I hope that whoever is in charge of da4 mini quests sees these Well, you can keep or sell whatever you find in the Deep Roads, after being exiled.
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Post by Curious Crow on Nov 26, 2018 18:06:54 GMT
Going to start a new dwarf noble. Is there a way to leave orzamer with any money or stuff?i can’t remember if I can keep anything before being sent to deep roads ? How about the credit from lord dace? Amazed at the detail they placed with just the trip to the market. I hope that whoever is in charge of da4 mini quests sees these Pretty sure you keep all your gold, but they nick all the items. Also used to grab the DLC items as well, which ruffled quite some feathers. Think they let you keep them now. But the proving helmet and non dlc Items stay in Orzammar. So you can sell the Note of Credit (and everything you don't think you'll be using) at one of the Merchants outside and then the warden should be able to hide around 25 sovereigns...somewhere on their person...to take to the surface.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 4, 2018 1:11:37 GMT
Found this and thought it was cute! Little Brosca and Zev appreciation. Also Gomez, your fic of Brosca and Leliana was awesome. A treat to read of a under appreciated pairing. Thanks so much for sharing. Thanks so much! I meant to respond to this comment earlier but got distracted. I'm glad you enjoyed it. 😁
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 4, 2018 21:04:31 GMT
Some lovely lady dorfs for #dragon4geday:
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Post by Merela on Dec 7, 2018 18:08:26 GMT
So, who's ready to play a Dwarf in Tevinter ?
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 7, 2018 18:30:31 GMT
So, who's ready to play a Dwarf in Tevinter ?
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Dec 8, 2018 6:31:58 GMT
I am soooooooo longing for an Ambassadoria dwarf origin. And/or an Ambassadoria dwarf companion. (I mean, I want Harding in the party too, but there's no law that says we can't have two dwarves in a main series roster. We've managed two elves twice in a row.)
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 8, 2018 7:35:29 GMT
I'd love to have two dwarves in the party! Last time we had that was Awakening.
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This whole video is really interesting but @ 7:50 he talks about the Voshai (aka, seafaring dwarves from the west) and there's some neat theorizing about the traders' obsession with lyrium, the "cataclysm" that happened in the west, etc. Makes you wonder.
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Post by wickedcool on Dec 14, 2018 14:51:13 GMT
How close is Orzammar to tevinter? Was our warden in Orzammar closer to tevinter or the location in the descent?
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Post by Sifr on Dec 14, 2018 16:00:06 GMT
How close is Orzammar to tevinter? Was our warden in Orzammar closer to tevinter or the location in the descent? Orzammar is located the the North West of Ferelden, under the Frostback Mountains and The Descent began under the Storm Coast to the North of Ferelden. So from the surface, Orzammar is closer to Tevinter, but we don't know in what direction the Inquisition went (or how far) to reach the Titan, so from underground, they could easily have been closer to Tevinter.
I don't think we've got any canonical distances between Tevinter and Orzammar. It's said that Weisshaupt Fortress in the Anderfels (west of Tevinter) lies roughly 1000 miles away from Ferelden, so assuming that isn't hyperbole, I'd suspect that the northernmost part of the Imperium likely falls around the same distance away.
(Has any bright spark tried to work out the exact distances or scale of Thedas at all, using the map and figures provided? I know some people have tried to do distance calculations between Orzammar and the Circle tower, based on Dagna's estimates of how long the trip would take, but I don't know if anyone has tried to work out the size of the map yet?)
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Post by Nightscrawl on Dec 14, 2018 16:13:34 GMT
(Has any bright spark tried to work out the exact distances or scale of Thedas at all, using the map and figures provided? I know some people have tried to do distance calculations between Orzammar and the Circle tower, based on Dagna's estimates of how long the trip would take, but I don't know if anyone has tried to work out the size of the map yet?) As far as I know, the one line by Alistair (1000 miles reference), and the remark by Dagna, are the only official references to distance we have. There supposedly was a map scale in a Prima guide, but I discount that. Regardless of whether they have acquired licenses, Prima guides are not official Bioware releases.
What makes the Dagna remark tricky is that we don't know the travel method. It became somewhat of a meme in the fandom that horses didn't exist, since we walked everywhere, but of course they were present in the canonical DA novels and we finally got one in DAI. Is she reckoning based on foot, horse, or caravan travel, all of which have different average travel speeds for gauging distance? It is unknown.
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