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Post by vanch on Sept 9, 2018 17:20:57 GMT
I'm looking to invest some points into 'Heavy Lifting', which is shown below in the quote, although I'm not sure what Thermal Clips are. Will Heavy Lifting improve my clip size with all weapons, or is it only for a particular type?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 20:25:34 GMT
Thermal clips are (for MEA) the ammo carried in your weapon itself. The "clip" goes into the weapon's magazine and gives you the ability to fire the weapon until the "clip" is exhausted. At which point, you load a new clip from your spare ammo.
The 20% weapon clip size applies to all weapons. Even "recharge" weapons which don't have actual clips to replenish a magazine. Yeah, yeah, I know, space magic. For weapons like an Ushior, a 20% boost to clip size may not yield an additional round in the magazine. But along with other perks to clip size, you may eventually get another round. That would also be true of the Widow and Isharay. In ME3, boosts to clip size seemed to always round down in MP … but in MEA (SP and MP), I think at some point they round up … so you don't need a 100% boost to clip size to gain a single round in a single shot weapon, a 50% boost to gain a round in a two-shot weapon or a 25% boost in a four-shot weapon.
For completeness …
The 25% spare ammo buff applies to all weapons that use thermal clips. It DOES NOT help recharge weapons. Recharge weapons have "infinite" spare ammo, so increasing your spare ammo supply does nothing for those weapons. Think of it this way … spare ammo is what you carry in a pouch on the leg of your armor. The "spare ammo" is a series of "thermal clips" … which meant one thing in ME2 and ME3, but has devolved into more traditional ammo in MEA.
Power cells apply to all the things that use them … grenades, stealth grid, barricade … so you get one additional compared to what you would otherwise carry. Unlike ME3, power cells storage are for each "item" … so if your character has both grenades and barricade, you will have cells for each and the perk will boost the cell carriage capacity for each. In ME3 the "cells" all came from the same source, so using one, decremented your supply for all by one.
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Post by vanch on Sept 9, 2018 20:58:05 GMT
That's a brilliant explanation, thank you very much!  |
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Post by Serza on Sept 10, 2018 11:33:43 GMT
And if you're more interested in the lore stuff, I suggest you look up M1 Garand's 8 round en-bloc clip.
It's the closest real piece of tech we have to the thermal clip in it's use.
The clip itself contains a coolant, not ammunition, however. We're still led to believe that a weapon in the ME universe is unlikely to ever run out of ammo and instead needs significant cooling to not overheat and jam, which is where the clips come in as a replacement for the "eventually overheat but cool down themselves" guns of ME1 vintage. Instead, since ME2 (and sometimes in late 2183, just after ME1) the guns use replaceable thermal clips, which means that you do not need to wait for the cooling but just insert another batch of coolant.
The term clip is also correct, because it is not a magazine. When the clip ejects from the weapon upon reload, it is about a tenth of it's original size and glowing hot. This indicates that there was indeed something on it, not inside it, making the term "clip" the correct to use, unlike "magazine".
To illustrate, many weapons utilizing clips for reload have internal non-detachable box magazines, such as the well known Mosin Nagant of WWII vintage, and the Kar98k and SMLE of the same era. Even in more modern times, you can find (Sa vz. 58) rifles that use detachable box magazines but can be topped up via clips, and even weapons that can't be topped up directly from a clip usually can have their magazines refilled from one (please don't go googling 556x45 clip, I've done that and it shows a shitton of magazines with maybe three or four clip pictures).
Long story short, the clips in the game reflect clips in real life with the difference of not being the ammo (or perhaps the ammo is somewhere on that clip as well, but previous lore indicates otherwise) but rather the coolant. Also, in reality, modern firearms can not be reloaded by clips, but magazines, and clips are used to swiftly refill the magazine at best.
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