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Post by saandrig on Jan 15, 2019 7:36:46 GMT
Oh, boy, the shitstorm is coming. Two words - forced child. I thought Ubisoft would try to give a choice in the matter but this kid must be really important for future games.
My theory was that they would use Leonidas's son if our protagonist dodged the child. And lets face it my Kass would never let Darius's son get in kissy range. She has standards!
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Post by dazk on Jan 15, 2019 7:47:01 GMT
You can fight them in the city, just hide in a garden or on a roof and use Ghost Arrows. The roof takes care of Kitty as well. Good point and I think I've done that before too, but it was a bit fun doing it. Reminded me of this: LOL
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 15, 2019 7:48:13 GMT
Oh, boy, the shitstorm is coming. Two words - forced child. I thought Ubisoft would try to give a choice in the matter but this kid must be really important for future games.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 15, 2019 8:22:18 GMT
I hope they get sued for false advertising and everyone involved in this decision is fired. Meanwhile I need to figure out how to get my money back. Never trusting Ubisoft again. I should have known better.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 15, 2019 8:23:17 GMT
I hope they get sued for false advertising and everyone involved in this decision is fired. Meanwhile I need to figure out how to get my money back. Never trusting Ubisoft again. I should have known better. i thought the game was a gift?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 15, 2019 8:26:04 GMT
I hope they get sued for false advertising and everyone involved in this decision is fired. Meanwhile I need to figure out how to get my money back. Never trusting Ubisoft again. I should have known better. i thought the game was a gift? Their money back, whatever. I just want to make it so every cent given to them for my copy is taken back.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jan 15, 2019 9:45:59 GMT
I hope they get sued for false advertising and everyone involved in this decision is fired. Meanwhile I need to figure out how to get my money back. Never trusting Ubisoft again. I should have known better.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jan 15, 2019 9:46:48 GMT
Oh, boy, the shitstorm is coming. Two words - forced child. I thought Ubisoft would try to give a choice in the matter but this kid must be really important for future games. My theory was that they would use Leonidas's son if our protagonist dodged the child. And lets face it my Kass would never let Darius's son get in kissy range. She has standards! I can hear the angry typing from here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 12:26:22 GMT
I wonder how many mercenaries there are on the game, at least ones with personal backstories and stuff. Well i know of some people who killed way over the 1000 ( some with 1100 some with 1200 give or take ) mercenaries i do not know if they all had a personal back story though. I myself killed almost 500 mercenaries so far. And i'm really done with this game since yesterday i cleared everything on the map at least once. The last thing i did was destroying some silo's and i'm not going to do that again in maybe a future PT. The only + from doing that was that i'm back on top of the mercenary ladder again. Kassandra the eagle bearer is on top again yay.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 12:35:39 GMT
Well I have killed well over 400 and new ones still keep appearing!!!!! I actually wish it was a finite number to be honest. At least they stopped them coming back from the dead, I mentioned this ages ago but no one else had experienced it but it was part of the bug fixes last patch. Many fans complained that there were only 10 phylakes in Origins, so these mercs were the answer. I can take them or leave them, personally. I think fewer and far tougher would be preferable. I guess that’s what the phylakes were supposed to be. NO!!! definitely no.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 13:24:43 GMT
I'm all for it the greatest assassins of all time the shinobi's or ninja's and why not in medieval Japan i just love the Samurai and i love medieval Japan and it's history. And for your other question i'm with dazk and that Alexios should be the Deimos. Due to numerous reasons I prefer the Meiji Restoration as background. Much more possibilities in gameplay and story. You have the old ways clashing with the new, all the different factions that can get involved, many interesting old and modern tools, classic Japanese areas in one part of the map and new industrial types elsewhere, etc. The only other feasible alternative could be the Sengoku period, which can be exploited as a sort of a Golden age for assassins. It has potential, but outside the military conflict it doesn't appeal to me as a setting. I can't really see the diversity in it compared to the Meiji Restoration. Also Japan in that era is still rather isolated which prompts the question how would Templars/Assassins play a part. Unless we go in the direction of the initial attempts of establishing both orders there and manipulating the war in competition and search for Isu sites/artifacts. There is potential in the Mongol invasions of Japan. You can easily come up with the story that Kublai Khan was looking for Isu artifacts in Japan and that exactly those artifacts were used to create the typhoons that crippled the invading Mongol fleets. The Tokugawa period would be boring since there is no big event that would fit into the AC formula and Japan was very isolated. That might be true but i'm definitely not for it that they would use the Meiji Restoration period as background. Because as i see it the Japanese people lost their identity somehow in that time period. And i'm not an historian when it comes to Japan and it's history i just know a little but that's my opinion. And when i just look at the armor pieces that they wore at that time such a proud and honorable and impressive looking people back then the women to btw. Then my answer is obvious medieval Japan at the time of the Samurai. I also speak and of course understand Japanese quite well so if they do the same as in Odyssey i would probably love the game even more. Because my Greek is not nearly as good as my Japanese is.
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Post by saandrig on Jan 15, 2019 13:52:26 GMT
Patricia, if you have a PS4 then look up the upcoming Ghost of Tsushima. It is pretty much an AC game set in medieval Japan minus the AC nametag.
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Post by Rouccoco on Jan 15, 2019 14:55:49 GMT
The DLCs are supposedly made by a different team and those shitty decisions and cringy everything show that...
I can't delete it, and I probably won't get a refund for the season pass, since I bought the bundled version. I'll just ignore this exists, concentrate on enjoying the base game, and never preorder in the future. Second game I did, and again I got burned.
I feel cheated. Ubi's willingness to establish a canon with the book should have probably been a red flag that they don't actually care about the RPG elements or player choice. And if they're have a canon anyway for future media and games, why not let us choose, like they did with the protagonist's gender and family fates?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 15, 2019 15:32:42 GMT
I hope they get sued for false advertising and everyone involved in this decision is fired. Meanwhile I need to figure out how to get my money back. Never trusting Ubisoft again. I should have known better. No. No it’s not.
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Post by Rouccoco on Jan 15, 2019 15:53:29 GMT
Oh, boy, the shitstorm is coming. Two words - forced child. I thought Ubisoft would try to give a choice in the matter but this kid must be really important for future games. Future games will feature Kassandra as misthios, regardless of your choices. Couldn't they have let us choose here too? There are already loads of non-canon compliant decisions in the game that will be overridden in the next AC. This as bad as if they had chosen to convert everyone's protagonist to Kassandra, when you'd start that DLC.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jan 15, 2019 16:22:20 GMT
You're asking someone to be fired over a story related issue and because you didn't like it. Hell, you haven't even played it yet. Also, you mustive missed the disclaimer at the beginning of the game.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 15, 2019 16:35:29 GMT
You're asking someone to be fired over a story related issue and because you didn't like it. Hell, you haven't even played it yet. Also, you mustive missed the disclaimer at the beginning of the game. It's called false advertisement. A lot of people bought the game because it was promoted by the company that you could be whatever sexual orientation you wanted. And now this DLC forces everyone into a heterosexual relationship, therefore players who are gay or ace for example were not given what they were promised. Companies have been sued and people have been fired for stuff like that in the past, so why should this be an exception? I know nothing will happen, but I'm still allowed to express my opinion and feelings. And that disclaimer proves...what, exactly?
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jan 15, 2019 16:53:10 GMT
Let me be clear: I don't like it either, but firing a bunch of people over this is a over the top reaction. Especially when you think of the Animus as reliving ancestral DNA you can't change the past. Same reason why the battles feel empty like you haven't changed a thing.
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Post by zarrokhai on Jan 15, 2019 16:57:10 GMT
So, been away from AC:Odyssey for awhile but heard about the latest issue with the new DLC.
They actually forced players to have a kid? Holy shit. How is it that no one at Ubisoft did not see what a terrible idea this was going to be?
This feels like such a big f*** you to the fans, especially the LGBT community. After marketing about how choice-making will be a major part of the game, they go and pull this stunt.
Serves me right for buying the Ultimate Edition, I had such high hopes for this game. Now I'm scared to know what will happen in the future DLCs. Maybe Ubisoft should have just stuck to making a linear story if that's what they really wanted...
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Post by Rouccoco on Jan 15, 2019 17:04:13 GMT
Let me be clear: I don't like it either, but firing a bunch of people over this is a over the top reaction. Especially when you think of the Animus as reliving ancestral DNA you can't change the past. Same reason why the battles feel empty like you haven't changed a thing. I don't want anyone fired, I'm just pointing out how that screen doesn't apply here. Again, why let players play as Alexios? You are changing the past by choosing the misthios. It's non-canon, and a pretty huge change to the story that will never be referenced in future games. Do Kassandra's baby in canon, but let us choose in the game. It won't matter outside of it anyway.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 15, 2019 18:42:25 GMT
You're asking someone to be fired over a story related issue and because you didn't like it. Hell, you haven't even played it yet. Also, you mustive missed the disclaimer at the beginning of the game. It's called false advertisement. A lot of people bought the game because it was promoted by the company that you could be whatever sexual orientation you wanted. And now this DLC forces everyone into a heterosexual relationship, therefore players who are gay or ace for example were not given what they were promised. Companies have been sued and people have been fired for stuff like that in the past, so why should this be an exception? I know nothing will happen, but I'm still allowed to express my opinion and feelings. And that disclaimer proves...what, exactly? i generally don't think people should be fired and i don't advocate or relish it. Suing people is likewise pretty petty.
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Post by dazk on Jan 15, 2019 23:18:39 GMT
Oh, boy, the shitstorm is coming. Two words - forced child. I thought Ubisoft would try to give a choice in the matter but this kid must be really important for future games. My theory was that they would use Leonidas's son if our protagonist dodged the child. And lets face it my Kass would never let Darius's son get in kissy range. She has standards! Wasn't there always going to have to be a child to continue the bloodline or am I not understanding how the story for the whole of AC works? Do we know yet how the child is "forced" on Kassandra, is it a relationship of convenience to have a child or will a relationship with Natakas be forced on the player? Does this mean the next games will still be prequels to the original AC game with Altair if they are forcing this in Odyssey? I want to clearly spell out I am in no way outraged by the dev's decision to do this, it's their intellectual property and their story. I will be disappointed if in the game there is no option in regards to whether a "relationship" with Natakas is forced on you or whether you can choose to do it from a biological convenience perspective. There hasn't been a game series I have played (looks at The Witcher and Mass Effect in particular) where dev's have dictated changes or forced a story line. It is what it is and I am honestly pleased to have played what I consider a great game in AC Odyssey.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 15, 2019 23:55:49 GMT
So killed another two of the cultists wiping out two more of the branches. lol. The one on the extreme left and the right of the circle. The worshiper of the bloodline and I think the Silver Vein. Both of them were pretty much at cult fortresses of sorts though the queen of the bloodline was more isolated. It was actually a lot of fun going after them and it is truly insane just how much headshot damage I do as a bonus. I mean my arrows barely do pinpricks where my headshots just do a lot of wrecking.
Anyways mayv'e even said it before but it is annoying how there is a disconnect with the cult. Granted people can have differing perspectives and motivations for joining or using a massive organization like the cult. But the Cult, and later the Templar Order, seems to all be about bringing order to the chaos. Chrysis herself says as much and she even chastises you for being a killer. Yet most of the descriptions of the cultists you find throughout the world are some kind of sadistic maniacs and killers and tortuers and their whole Last Jedi esque plot of using the chaos of the Polepensian Wars to their ends seems to be a bit of a contradiction to this goal. Part of the problem is there is almost zero characterization to most of the cultists that I have run into thus far in the game outside of the descriptions (barring the ones I have spoiled myself about of course). Even, by and large, the game Ghost Recon Wildlands managed to have more characterization of the cartel with the intelligence videos and videos from El Sueno. A lot of them even going as far as having nuance with a lot of the cartel members themselves, either being forced into it or having some kind of internal struggle they all weren't just muhahahas.
About the controversy with the whole child thing while dazk is right I remain torn. On the one hand they did make promises which they apparently had no intention of keeping but on the other hand this whole game (nigh the whole series) has really been about family since the beginning and with the bloodlines which apparently continue all the way to the modern day. They could have handled it in other ways, but I am not surprised either.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 16, 2019 0:18:36 GMT
Oh, boy, the shitstorm is coming. Two words - forced child. I thought Ubisoft would try to give a choice in the matter but this kid must be really important for future games. My theory was that they would use Leonidas's son if our protagonist dodged the child. And lets face it my Kass would never let Darius's son get in kissy range. She has standards! Wasn't there always going to have to be a child to continue the bloodline or am I not understanding how the story for the whole of AC works? Do we know yet how the child is "forced" on Kassandra, is it a relationship of convenience to have a child or will a relationship with Natakas be forced on the player? Does this mean the next games will still be prequels to the original AC game with Altair if they are forcing this in Odyssey? I want to clearly spell out I am in no way outraged by the dev's decision to do this, it's their intellectual property and their story. I will be disappointed if in the game there is no option in regards to whether a "relationship" with Natakas is forced on you or whether you can choose to do it from a biological convenience perspective. There hasn't been a game series I have played (looks at The Witcher and Mass Effect in particular) where dev's have dictated changes or forced a story line. It is what it is and I am honestly pleased to have played what I consider a great game in AC Odyssey. The relationship is absolutely forced on you. Even if you ignore all the options for it, when the scene happens you’re suddenly super lovey-dovey for them.
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