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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 7, 2018 1:44:16 GMT
Not going to happen but if it did, Unreal please! And a cosmetic remaster only, no remake. With all DLC so I can replay on PC without paying a fortune again... With all DLC? In the era of loot boxes? I think not. Instead, we'll probably get something like The Sims 4, which has created DLC for DLC. I could imagine the Citadel DLC being split up into two parts. One would be the meet ups with your friends and the other the battle against the clone. I say $20 a pop. EA wants to milk people for their money, not make deals for them.
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 7, 2018 2:48:52 GMT
I agree and just because remasters sell for other games doesn't mean it would mean it would work for Mass Effect. It would be like saying that some feature works with other games would mean that it would work for any BioWare game. Generally a remaster is used to test the reception a game franchise that has become stagnate with no plans for a new game or its a more recent release and there is a new console generation, but the teases from Casey Hudson makes it seem more likely that we will get a new game in the franchise then an updated version of the older ones. The other thing is I am fairly certain it wouldn't be BioWare remastering the game if they ever decide to do it again. Generally remasters are farmed out to smaller studios that just make sure the port works on the new hardware and if available will use higher resolution textures that already exist. I can almost literally play every Assassin's Creed game on PS4. Only the first game and 3 is not available on PS4. And Ubisoft plans to release Assassin's Creed 3 with a few updates for current console in 20019. Assassin's Creed is far from a stagnant series with no plans for a new game. That is why I said generally.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Dec 7, 2018 2:54:18 GMT
I can almost literally play every Assassin's Creed game on PS4. Only the first game and 3 is not available on PS4. And Ubisoft plans to release Assassin's Creed 3 with a few updates for current console in 20019. Assassin's Creed is far from a stagnant series with no plans for a new game. That is why I said generally. Well what games leads to that generally idea?
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 7, 2018 3:45:31 GMT
That is why I said generally. Well what games leads to that generally idea? The multitude of games at the start of this console generation that were re-release on the new hardware like The Last of Us or when EA remasters Burnout Paradise or a couple years ago the big package for all the Command and Conquer games. There was also the Spyro collection this year where they remastered all three of the games. There will always be games that they go back and redo to try and make them work with the new hardware like you mentioned with Assassin's Creed and there is even that Resident Evil 2 remake coming and all the remasters to new hardware over the years with those games too.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 7, 2018 12:39:01 GMT
I agree and just because remasters sell for other games doesn't mean it would mean it would work for Mass Effect. I believe it would sell well. I'm sure there are folks that haven't played the trilogy that wanted to but because of reasons weren't able to. It would bring in new players. People who have played the trilogy, but not all dlc would likely buy the remaster, if it included all dlc, because buying the dlc's separately is more expensive. ME3 has the multiplayer that did very well. So that might be an incentive for people to buy the remaster. I do believe it would sell better than MEA. . The unfortunate thing is if you look at some of the posts around a remaster people want to have the combat system updated and the same across all the games that would require more QA and re-balancing across all three games since they weren't designed for that type of combat. I would like to see this, that and the other thing fixed/changed, but doing that makes it a remake instead of a remaster. If Bioware were to remake the trilogy, I don't see them doing a remaster.
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Post by cloud9 on Dec 7, 2018 14:53:25 GMT
I agree and just because remasters sell for other games doesn't mean it would mean it would work for Mass Effect. I believe it would sell well. I'm sure there are folks that haven't played the trilogy that wanted to but because of reasons weren't able to. It would bring in new players. People who have played the trilogy, but not all dlc would likely buy the remaster, if it included all dlc, because buying the dlc's separately is more expensive. ME3 has the multiplayer that did very well. So that might be an incentive for people to buy the remaster. I do believe it would sell better than MEA. . The unfortunate thing is if you look at some of the posts around a remaster people want to have the combat system updated and the same across all the games that would require more QA and re-balancing across all three games since they weren't designed for that type of combat. I would like to see this, that and the other thing fixed/changed, but doing that makes it a remake instead of a remaster. If Bioware were to remake the trilogy, I don't see them doing a remaster. And it needs a serious remake when it comes to a consistent story as concerned.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Dec 11, 2018 17:27:02 GMT
Well what games leads to that generally idea? The multitude of games at the start of this console generation that were re-release on the new hardware like The Last of Us or when EA remasters Burnout Paradise or a couple years ago the big package for all the Command and Conquer games. There was also the Spyro collection this year where they remastered all three of the games. There will always be games that they go back and redo to try and make them work with the new hardware like you mentioned with Assassin's Creed and there is even that Resident Evil 2 remake coming and all the remasters to new hardware over the years with those games too. Because more money for basically just providing a small graphical update to the game. Spyro and Crash are the only ones that had full over hauls and that was because of the age of the games.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 4:44:28 GMT
I would prefer Unreal Engine 4 if they ever did a remaster.
I am completely against remaking the trilogy in any way, shape, or form. If you bought a movie ticket and didn't like part or whole of the movie, would you ask the movie producers to re-film the entire movie, or parts you didn't like? It's their IP/story/characters, etc. They legally own all the copyright to the work. You were given access to see the film with your ticket, and you can do what you want with that. If you feel the story is disconnected in some ways, unfortunately, you can choose not to buy any further games if you feel short changed.That's your power as a consumer.
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 14, 2018 5:16:51 GMT
I would prefer Unreal Engine 4 if they ever did a remaster. I am completely against remaking the trilogy in any way, shape, or form. If you bought a movie ticket and didn't like part or whole of the movie, would you ask the movie producers to re-film the entire movie, or parts you didn't like? It's their IP/story/characters, etc. They legally own all the copyright to the work. You were given access to see the film with your ticket, and you can do what you want with that. If you feel the story is disconnected in some ways, unfortunately, you can choose not to buy any further games if you feel short changed.That's your power as a consumer. Unfortunately going by what I am seeing online is there are plenty of people that want people to remake movies that they disagree with. The biggest one I can think of at the moment being the "Snyder Cut" of Justice League.
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Unfortunately going by what I am seeing online is there are plenty of people that want people to remake movies that they disagree with. The biggest one I can think of at the moment being the "Snyder Cut" of Justice League. Any remake would have to be funded by an outside source. No way Bioware or EA would sign off on such a thing. If anything, they'd probably stand by what they did, despite the issues people perceive it having.
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 14, 2018 6:17:10 GMT
Unfortunately going by what I am seeing online is there are plenty of people that want people to remake movies that they disagree with. The biggest one I can think of at the moment being the "Snyder Cut" of Justice League. Any remake would have to be funded by an outside source. No way Bioware or EA would sign off on such a thing. If anything, they'd probably stand by what they did, despite the issues people perceive it having. Yeah, using your movie analogy. They have one group hating them that they changed something, but if they didn't change it they would have another group hating them for leaving it alone. No-win situation, its why I am doubtful we will see a remake anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 20:36:19 GMT
If they didn't remake the ME3 ending, they aren't going to remake the entire trilogy.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 14, 2018 21:41:07 GMT
The multitude of games at the start of this console generation that were re-release on the new hardware like The Last of Us or when EA remasters Burnout Paradise or a couple years ago the big package for all the Command and Conquer games. There was also the Spyro collection this year where they remastered all three of the games. There will always be games that they go back and redo to try and make them work with the new hardware like you mentioned with Assassin's Creed and there is even that Resident Evil 2 remake coming and all the remasters to new hardware over the years with those games too. Because more money for basically just providing a small graphical update to the game. Spyro and Crash are the only ones that had full over hauls and that was because of the age of the games. I agree that it's pointless. There's no way I believe remastering just to streamline gameplay is worth it. Just changing the combat system in ME1 causes a change in the game itself. The seeking out of weapons and mods is kind of important. That all squadmates can wield all weapons - but with different levels of proficiency - is a change in that game. I don't know. Don't want the remaster. I'd personally want a few tweaks but the game is what it is. I use mods to fix the things I don't like. I do that with a lot of games. No need for a remaster or remake.
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 14, 2018 22:21:33 GMT
Because more money for basically just providing a small graphical update to the game. Spyro and Crash are the only ones that had full over hauls and that was because of the age of the games. I agree that it's pointless. There's no way I believe remastering just to streamline gameplay is worth it. Just changing the combat system in ME1 causes a change in the game itself. The seeking out of weapons and mods is kind of important. That all squadmates can wield all weapons - but with different levels of proficiency - is a change in that game. I don't know. Don't want the remaster. I'd personally want a few tweaks but the game is what it is. I use mods to fix the things I don't like. I do that with a lot of games. No need for a remaster or remake. I think they are in a position that no matter what they do or don't do its going to be a PR mess and potentially cost them because there are so many different expectations and demands for what should or should not be changed.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Dec 15, 2018 0:45:05 GMT
Because more money for basically just providing a small graphical update to the game. Spyro and Crash are the only ones that had full over hauls and that was because of the age of the games. I agree that it's pointless. There's no way I believe remastering just to streamline gameplay is worth it. Just changing the combat system in ME1 causes a change in the game itself. The seeking out of weapons and mods is kind of important. That all squadmates can wield all weapons - but with different levels of proficiency - is a change in that game. I don't know. Don't want the remaster. I'd personally want a few tweaks but the game is what it is. I use mods to fix the things I don't like. I do that with a lot of games. No need for a remaster or remake. Spyro and Crash only got a more in depth over haul because with the new graphics the older set ups with stuff like collision wouldn't work. As well as unifying the controls across all 3 games and adding things like auto save, adding adjustable difficulty so mask crates will spawn if you die enough and altering a few things like adding metal crates due to the change in game physics when jumping. Because the previous wooden crates wouldn't allow you to make the jump anymore. Must like Dark Souls Remastered or Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5-2.5 or the Jax series or even Assassin's Creed you do not need to make massive over hauls to the entire game. Simply update the graphics, adjust a few bad game play set ups (like the fact PS3 couldn't buy grenades in ME1) and release it on the current gen consoles. It doesn't need to run at 4k with 60 fps but ME 1 and 2 particularly could be updated to ME 3's graphic level and play at 60 fps. Or updated ME:A's level and play at 30 fps. Not everyone has a PC which allows them to mod the game to fix issues and provide graphical updates to the game. All 134.31million console users can only use a game when it is released and can only get a graphical jump in an older game when the game developers release it. And if Sony and Microsoft do the right thing and make the next Playstation and X box backwards comparable with current gen games then the OT will be around for a while as players will be able to continue to play and replay into the next console gen. Just like I was playing PSOne games into PS3 era with my original fat PS3 that fully supported backwards comparability.
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Post by cloud9 on Dec 15, 2018 3:12:23 GMT
If they didn't remake the ME3 ending, they aren't going to remake the entire trilogy. Might as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 3:58:40 GMT
If they didn't remake the ME3 ending, they aren't going to remake the entire trilogy. Might as well. Okay, but you're paying for it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 15, 2018 4:05:36 GMT
Okay, but you're paying for it. Also, it will suck. Whatever issues were there in ME3, they'll multiply as BW tries to "fix" everything fans don't like. Combine that with fans being increasingly displeased with the writing and I can't see how anyone would think remaking it would get us a better game.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 15, 2018 11:51:57 GMT
Okay, but you're paying for it. Also, it will suck. Whatever issues were there in ME3, they'll multiply as BW tries to "fix" everything fans don't like. Combine that with fans being increasingly displeased with the writing and I can't see how anyone would think remaking it would get us a better game. Is there anything to support what you say? If what you say is true, woudn't that apply to a sequel to MEA as well?
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 15, 2018 11:54:51 GMT
Also, it will suck. Whatever issues were there in ME3, they'll multiply as BW tries to "fix" everything fans don't like. Combine that with fans being increasingly displeased with the writing and I can't see how anyone would think remaking it would get us a better game. Is there anything to support what you say? If what you say is true, woudn't that apply to a sequel to MEA as well? Probably. However, can you deny that people are more and more displeased with the writing, starting with ME3? That's where the bitching began and it only got worse in MEA. Would you rather your beloved Shepard be screwed over with worse writing or some other characters that you already don't like?
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Post by cloud9 on Dec 19, 2018 4:59:17 GMT
Okay, but you're paying for it.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 19, 2018 12:28:46 GMT
Is there anything to support what you say? If what you say is true, woudn't that apply to a sequel to MEA as well? Probably. However, can you deny that people are more and more displeased with the writing, starting with ME3? That's where the bitching began and it only got worse in MEA. Would you rather your beloved Shepard be screwed over with worse writing or some other characters that you already don't like? The excuse I will give ME3 is they didn't have enough time to do what they wanted to do. Had they been given more time, some of the stuff seen in the game would be different. It's also possible ME3 wouldn't have receive as much backlash it received.
My Shepard with worse writing? What would be worse?
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 19, 2018 13:03:06 GMT
Probably. However, can you deny that people are more and more displeased with the writing, starting with ME3? That's where the bitching began and it only got worse in MEA. Would you rather your beloved Shepard be screwed over with worse writing or some other characters that you already don't like? The excuse I will give ME3 is they didn't have enough time to do what they wanted to do. Had they been given more time, some of the stuff seen in the game would be different. It's also possible ME3 wouldn't have receive as much backlash it received.
My Shepard with worse writing? What would be worse?
I agree that some of those original ideas sounded better. When I talk about displeasure with writing, I'm not referring to my own opinion. I enjoyed ME3 (and love the Destroy ending) and MEA. My commentary is toward people who think the writing has been terrible. To those people, I say that if they already think it was bad, it's not going to get better. The setting is irrelevant. Had there been a top notch writing crew for MEA, there would have been a lot fewer complaints.
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I don't really understand the writing mistakes people were complaining about.
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