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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 1, 2018 17:21:12 GMT
I don’t know if he would know their ages since those characters were written by different people. That´s true but maybe he still know it because they were used in Knight Errant.
The Venatori only started to become a faction during the second half of the 9:30's, so that would make Calpernia not more than early twenties during the events of DAI. According to Jo Berry: "Calpernia's age is somewhere between the mid to late twenties." dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Calpernia
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 1, 2018 17:27:35 GMT
I don’t know if he would know their ages since those characters were written by different people. That´s true but maybe he still know it because they were used in Knight Errant. Maybe. After all it was Sebastian’s birthday in Knight Errant.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 1, 2018 17:30:23 GMT
I’m curious what voices Christina and Nunzio have in mind for Ser Aaron and the various characters in Deception now.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 1, 2018 17:32:33 GMT
That´s true but maybe he still know it because they were used in Knight Errant. Maybe. After all it was Sebastian’s birthday in Knight Errant. Yeah i almost forgot about this. Too bad that a Circle Mage Bethany wasn´t there. I know but would have been nice if Sebastian and Bethany Romance were still a thing.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 1, 2018 17:36:27 GMT
Maybe. After all it was Sebastian’s birthday in Knight Errant. Yeah i almost forgot about this. Too bad that a Circle Mage Bethany wasn´t there. I know but would have been nice if Sebastian and Bethany Romance were still a thing. It can be in your canon. Knight Errant had to follow Bioware’s canon which means no Bethany.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 1, 2018 17:42:30 GMT
Knight Errant had to follow Bioware’s canon which means no Bethany. Really? Bioware never said a wort about Bethany or Carver for their book and comic canon. But i could imagine that Bioware take the easy road and kill them both in their canon.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 1, 2018 17:46:00 GMT
Knight Errant had to follow Bioware’s canon which means no Bethany. Really? Bioware never said a wort about Bethany or Carver for their book and comic canon. But i could imagine that Bioware take the easy road and kill them both in their canon.
That’s just an assumption on my part considering how canon Hawke seems to be a mage which means Bethany would be the one who died in Lothering.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 20:48:42 GMT
If they were in a game, I'm not sure if/how romance would play out for Vaea. I'd want her to be a love interest, I think, because they get great story and great scenes. But we're still figuring her out on the romance/attraction front. If you ever do get there please please please consider making her a lesbian or bi. It would be amazing to have a lgbt poc like Vaea. ❤️
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Post by Blaze on Dec 4, 2018 12:04:35 GMT
Just hoping that Bw doesn't give any of these extended media characters major parts in the next game again, surely they've learned that 100% of Dragon Age fans have played the games, but less than that have read the optional material, I don't want another Inquisition situation here, leave these characters where they belong. Just my opinion. i don't see why reading the extended media got anything to do with that. you recon people who didn't read dragon age: asunder are incapable of liking cole? i'll do you one better, a friend of mine played inquisition without playing the previous games, she still loved leliana. you say the books and comics are optional material, but so does playing previous games; you can still love or hate a character regardless if you saw them in a different and/or previous media. they belong in the world of thedas, so don't worry, they'll be where they belong regardless of the size (if any) of their role in the next game.
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Post by doggiesnores on Dec 6, 2018 8:25:03 GMT
#vaea4baea in DA4 ugh, i love her! she looks and reminds me so much of my elven warden...down to the looks, class, and attitude. i'm just going to quietly headcanon her as my warden's relative...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 12, 2018 15:25:35 GMT
Deception Issue 3 is out and we get to see a lot more of Vaea.
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Post by Serza on Dec 12, 2018 20:39:25 GMT
I really need to start buying my stuff from abroad because come on, stuff takes literal years to get here (ME Initiation still not translated, no bookstores sell the en originals... It's shite.)
With luck they'll translate it in time for DA4 release.
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Post by phoray on Dec 22, 2018 19:46:58 GMT
After most recent comic, I don't mind Vaea as much. What bothered me about her most was her klepto tendencies without regard for creating an inter country upset since she represents Fereldan. Also that it was heavily racially motivated--she only ever gave the money she stole to alienages adn I refuse to believe after seeing Darktown in Kirkwall that elves are the only ones scraping by in need of help.
But since she didn't do any of that in the most recent comic, I'm hoping she's gotten over herself and can seriously apply herself to tasks in the future. Ser Aaron, her father figure of whom I used to be into, has totally fallen from grace for me.
I do wonder what she'll get up in in the next comic before DA4 to see if she keeps my interest.
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Post by Serza on Dec 22, 2018 20:54:08 GMT
...why are we bringing up race in any way or form when it's not neccessary?
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Post by phoray on Dec 22, 2018 21:35:55 GMT
...why are we bringing up race in any way or form when it's not neccessary? My primary reason for disliking her had nothing to do with race. You are hyper focusing on my secondary reasons for disliking her. But let's continue... There are races in Dragon Age. Vaea is an elf. It would be odd to say her race did not have an effect on her character, who she is today, or her actions and preferences towards other characters. I also bring it up because her actions have been compared to Sera where folks have said Vaea is just a repeat. I reject that comparison, because Sera doesn't care what race you are. There's little people and the buggers above them, and therefore she is racially blind (if not culturally blind, as she does seem to abhor the Dalish in base game) So I post the question to you: how is it NOT relevant that she is an elf that only helps elves with her Robin hooding?
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Post by Serza on Dec 23, 2018 8:35:55 GMT
...because you're bringing up a race in one way or another in what appears to be ....
Y'know what. This is all these fucking politics. I'd say I'm out but then I'd have to be out of life altogether. Or time travel back to early 2000's.
Where you see a race by saying elves, I just see people, and I think Thedas should stay that way. No real life politics brought in. I go down the path of judging people by who they are. Some groups are just evil and unalignable to me. Other than that, who people are is important, not what they were born as.
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Post by ellanathehamster on Dec 23, 2018 14:20:13 GMT
She is not bad, but not particulary interesting, to be honest. If she is to be a companion I would want for bioware to expand her backstory to something more that "cinycal teen Robin Hood with sad story". In comics she seemed somehwat boring and predictable. I would rather have that tevinter artist as companion. p/s^ vertical pupils are so ugly, pls don't do this to elves, they been through a lot
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Post by phoray on Dec 23, 2018 16:30:08 GMT
...because you're bringing up a race in one way or another in what appears to be....Y'know what. This is all these fucking politics. I'm not breaking the rules. Where you see a race by saying elves, I just see people, and I think Thedas should stay that way. No real life politics brought in. I go down the path of judging people by who they are. Some groups are just evil and unalignable to me. Other than that, who people are is important, not what they were born as. I'm seeing the people of Thedas through the multiple lens available inside the world of Thedas. If I look through the Lens of the Qunari, I see multiple races of lost chaotic sheep living and dying in confusion. I feel pity and a motherly instinct to protect them from themselves by folding them into the Qun. IF I look through the lens of the Orlesians (and possibly the bulk of the Magisters in Tevinter), then elves are to be ignored at best, as they quietly serve my tea. And any that step out of that role should be executed for their audacity. If I look at the world of Thedas through the eyes of a Dalish, I see large swaths of people who see my culture and I as a nuisance. I will be weary, heart sore, and angry as I stubbornly thrive just to spite them while practicing the old ways. If I look at the world of Thedas through a City Elf's eyes, I feel powerless. And the only power I can ever glean is, at best, in the shield of darkness against my oppressors. Perhaps in giving up on a hopeless life in the alienage, turn my back on all I knew, and seek out the Dalish. I think you get my point. This is a world where people are not looked at like "just people". By any of the races against any of the other races there is a strong opinion. And I happen to notice that Vaea, an elf in a world where being an elf has definitely mattered, is only helping other elves with her robin hooding. and I see HER as specifically more racially motivated to help the poor elves as compared to Sera's sort-of robin hooding. I also see her hurting the very people who gave her "honest work" because they were more well off than her. I see her as possibly hurting Ser Aaron and by association, Fereldan, as she gleefully robs High Nobles like Empress Celene. And I find that selfish, regardless of her race. Because she could start a war or an upset that could lead to many people being injured and killed if she had been caught. But "the prize" the burning desire of hers to "win" against those with more (who are everyone, not just nobles, because she robbed a fruit stand merchant too) to make "them" pay-- because her alienage was cleansed with swords and fire... And all of the "them"s we see are human... leads me to my conclusion about her character. But I think her relationship with Ser Aaron, her growth, has maybe lead to her letting go some of that "them" hatred. And her skills are being focused on better tasks through manipulations of the inquisition and Ser Aaron's belief in her that she can be a bigger better person. If I sat back and looked at Thedas as you are supposedly instructing me to do, as just people, then I would think they're all idiots for not being as Modern and Progressive as I am and stop playing because I wouldn't be able to appreciate the fact that this is a DIFFERENT WORLD. And not mine.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Dec 23, 2018 16:34:35 GMT
MODERATOR POST
Race will always be part of the Dragon Age conversation as racial hatred is a built in part of the lore of the game, going back to Dragon Age Origins. It has shaped the lives of many in Thedas, for good or bad, and it would be blind of us not to acknowledge that.
Therefore mentioning elf/human/qunari or dwarven prejudices in relation to the characters is valid.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 23, 2018 17:28:56 GMT
I believe that’s the first time a Mod has had to post in one of my threads in an official capacity.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Dec 23, 2018 17:33:16 GMT
I believe that’s the first time a Mod has had to post in one of my threads in an official capacity.
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Post by Serza on Dec 23, 2018 19:30:49 GMT
And the worst thing is that it wasn't even necessary. JingleMod, just tell them, I didn't report anyone here. Ever.
Reality's making me fly off the handle. I might need an extended break.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Dec 23, 2018 19:52:30 GMT
And the worst thing is that it wasn't even necessary. JingleMod, just tell them, I didn't report anyone here. Ever. Reality's making me fly off the handle. I might need an extended break. Nope, no one reported it. After the new rules on politics were implemented many people were confused about what was allowable, and what wasn't. Given the discussion in this thread I thought some clarity would be helpful, as well as a nudge to get the conversation back on track.
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Post by melbella on Dec 24, 2018 23:30:36 GMT
After the new rules on politics were implemented Wait, what? When did this happen? Why isn't shit like this blasted as a notification across the globe?
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Post by phoray on Dec 24, 2018 23:32:42 GMT
After the new rules on politics were implemented Wait, what? When did this happen? Why isn't shit like this blasted as a notification across the globe? Cuz over here in the DA section, it's pretty much same as always? The changes really only effect Off Topic.
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