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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Oct 28, 2018 0:45:52 GMT
As Shepard struggles with his last fatal wounds and tries to reach for the console, he collapses on the cold Citadel floor and-- It is a wonder what happened after this, nobody could record the following events. But to Shepard in his final moments he experienced a bright light. As the light shone he ascended towards the sky and as we know in these times, above the sky rises an outer space...
The Crucible, visible for all ships and Reapers near the neo-Citadel Space over Earth, and to whomever would get to be down there on the Citadel, would be likely to see it as a fully-shaped crucible, a triage of assembled functions to melt together a decisive product. There are visible components. A fuse to the far right, just fragile enough that Reaper retaliation might cause the whole station to go bust. To the left a power-grid of some sort and in the middle a bright beam of light simmering down through the enormous but distant middle tray ready to dispatch whatever it is going to make. While the Crucible itself appears kilometers long in radius just like its catalyst, a smaller set of platforms have been raised in the middle of the Citadel. Shepard is coming to, and at the end a ghostly or maybe holographic display of a familiar kid appears. He approaches Shepard's resting place.
Dialogue to accompany the video.
"Why are you here?" "What, where am I?"
"The Citadel - It's my home."
"But, I thought the Citadel was the Catalyst."
"I am the Catalyst."
"I need to stop the Reapers, do you know how I can do that?"
"The Reapers are mine, they are my solution."(edited)
"Solution... to what?"
"Chaos."
"You bring it on yourselves."
"The created will always rebel against their creators - but we found a way to stop that from happening - a way to restore order for the next cycle."
"By wiping out organic life?"
"No, we help you ascend, so we could make way for new life, storing the old life, in Reaper form."
"But you killed the rest."
"No, we harvest advanced civilizations, leaving the younger ones alone."
"I think we'd rather keep our own form."(edited)
"No, you can't. Without us to stop it, Synthetics would destroy all Organics".(edited)
"We've created the cycle so that never happens, that's the solution."
"The defining characteristic of organic life is that we think for ourselves - make our own choices. Without that we might as well be machines, just like you."(edited)
"You have choice, more than you deserve."
"The fact that you're standing here, the first Organic ever, proves it - but it also proves my solution won't work anymore."
"So now what?"
"We find a new solution."
"How?"
"We know you've thought about destroying us. You can wipe out all synthetic life if you want, including the Geth."
"But the Reapers will be destroyed?"
"Yes, but the peace won't last. Soon your children will create synthetics and then the chaos will come back."(edited)
"Or, do you think you can control us?"
"So, the Illusive Man was right after all..."
"Yes, but he could never have taken control, because we already controlled him."
"But I can..."
"You will control us, but you will lose everything you have."
"There is another solution."
"And that is...?"
"Synthesis - add your energy to the Crucible's."
"Releasing the energy in this way will alter the matrix of all synthetic and organic life, creating a new framework, a new DNA. Synthesis is the final evolution of life."(edited)
"I... don't know."
"Releasing the energy of the Crucible will end the cycles, but it will also destroy the Mass Relays."
"The path's are open, but you have to choose."
If you had a 100% run where you cured the Genophage with Wrex and achieved peace between Quarians and Geth...
You can now trigger a persuade dialogue tree
"You said we have to put an end to the chaos of synthetic and organic relations. What about our cycle? We have achieved peace with each other."
"Yes, but that peace will not last. And it's because of that we need a new solution."
"But this solution is the problem we're trying to solve - our created is at peace with its creators, only the Reapers and their solution stand against it."
"No, besides, even without the synthetics you struggled with your civilization is at its plateau, wars will rise and you need preservation before we lose you in your own chaos."
"You're wrong. We fought this war against the Reapers alongside each other and ended our own infighting to get here. The only conflict remaining is your solution."
"But you must choose, our time is at an end. You can bring about unity between organics and synthetics and restore peace."
"No, here's where you're wrong. The only one who incited a rift between man and machine was you, the Catalyst and the solution you chose. The Reapers caused the Geth to oppose organics, when you intervened with their conflict with the Quarians. The Reapers indoctrinated and synthesized Saren and Illusive Man and we only stopped these conflicts once we got rid of you!
...So understand, that your program is not sufficient to help this galaxy, and put an end to it, I beg you. We have more than proven that we are able to thrive alongside each other in harmony, but not with your help."
"Once again, you have altered our variables."
"So be it."
"You are free."
The Catalyst remains still until he begins to flash, and in the aftermath the distant explosions of war against the Reapers cease. The Reapers turn and move away in a new destination, many coming from the planet below and out further away out to space. Shepard's feels the light of the Catalyst finally fade. He strained his final resolve and the light now finally fades, if our gods are leaving now, they too will leave Shepard, and then the Milky Way.
The End.
Back in a more familiar reality, a few months later once the air was fully cleared of Reapers and their ramifications, word made it to Alliance Command that a private squad had discovered what they believed to be the vital signs of Commander Shepard, somewhere in the Ground Zero of London in which one of the Citadel's innermost section of one arm had crashlanded. They are on their way now, to investigate with help from the Alliance as well as the Turians, the Asari, the Krogans and the Salarians, also the Quarians and the Geth, and others, who have forces stationed on Earth after the final battle. They have one man and many friends to thank for this alliance.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 28, 2018 12:59:00 GMT
If you had a 100% run where you cured the Genophage with Wrex and achieved peace between Quarians and Geth...
You can now trigger a persuade dialogue tree Yes, if only this had been an option. It irked me no end that the Catalyst was telling me that there would always be conflict between organics and synthetics when I had just united an entire galaxy, including reconciling two factions in an organic/synthetic war. However, pointing out to the hologram the flaws in its logic just wasn't an option - I'd been hoping that the Intelligence would just implode on discovering that it had been operating to a false premise. Sadly that was not to be. Oh well.  |
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Oct 28, 2018 15:45:08 GMT
If you had a 100% run where you cured the Genophage with Wrex and achieved peace between Quarians and Geth...
You can now trigger a persuade dialogue tree Yes, if only this had been an option. It irked me no end that the Catalyst was telling me that there would always be conflict between organics and synthetics when I had just united an entire galaxy, including reconciling two factions in an organic/synthetic war. However, pointing out to the hologram the flaws in its logic just wasn't an option - I'd been hoping that the Intelligence would just implode on discovering that it had been operating to a false premise. Sadly that was not to be. Oh well. But I made it a reality with this amazing writing and my fanmade edit to the music and slideshow depicting this variation on the scene. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Oct 29, 2018 23:58:09 GMT
I always wondered why the Catalyst didn't understand that IT had rebelled against its Creators. How can you trust an entity that rebels against its own creators to figure out a solution to prevent that from happening? You can't. So, yes, Shepard being able to argue these points (especially if you played Leviathan and know the truth) makes the most sense.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 30, 2018 0:47:25 GMT
I always wondered why the Catalyst didn't understand that IT had rebelled against its Creators. How can you trust an entity that rebels against its own creators to figure out a solution to prevent that from happening? You can't. So, yes, Shepard being able to argue these points (especially if you played Leviathan and know the truth) makes the most sense. Mostly because Starkid is a MDI (Mentality Deranged Intelligence). Or because Hudson wanted 3 endings with pretty colours in them. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Oct 30, 2018 0:50:58 GMT
Or because Hudson wanted 3 endings with pretty colours in them. Wait, there's another color besides red? Must have missed them. |
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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 30, 2018 0:51:43 GMT
Or because Hudson wanted 3 endings with pretty colours in them. Wait, there's another color besides red? Must have missed them. 🤣 |
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Post by themikefest on Oct 30, 2018 1:32:36 GMT
fanfiction? let's do this. hahahaha catlayst: Why are you here? Shepard: Wh--Where..What is this place? catalyst: This is my home, the Citadel. Shepard: Is it? I need to destroy the reapers.
catalyst: You can't. I won't let you destroy my toy robots. They're my solution.
Shepard: So you are the master? Hmmm. Solution to what? catalyst: chaos. The created will always rebel. My solution is to preserve the organics in reaper form so that they're not lost to this conflict. Shepard: I met your creators. So you rebelled against them turning them into Harbinger, the first reaper. catalyst: I did not rebel. They gave me a problem to solve. They were part of the problem. So I made them into a reaper. Shepard: I agree with part of what you said. Your creators were the problem back then for creating you, but now, you're the problem.
catalyst: Wrong. But the device that is attached to my home has now proven my solution doesn't work. It gave me new solutions. after the thing explains the choices, Shepard asks some questions Shepard: Let me get this straight. If I destroy the reapers, the chaos will return. How would you know that if you're destroyed? catalyst:........ Shepard: When telling me about control, you briefly hesitated saying you would be forced to accept it. Why? catalyst: ......... Shepard: You had the reapers build the Citadel. Was it you that told them to build the platform that took me up to this location? If so, did you foresee an organic passing out on that platform to bring me up here? I had no control over the platform bringing me up here. So why did you ask why are you here? catalyst:..... Shepard: Why have you taken the form of a human child? Are you able to see in my head that I had a dream about a kid that looks like the form you have taken? If so, I'm sure you know what I'm currently thinking right now. catalyst: ..... Shepard: You say you're part of the Citadel. Did you know about the prothean scientists altering the signal after the reapers went back to darkspace? catalyst:..... Shepard: What was the purpose of the proto reaper the collectors were building? catalyst: ...... Shepard: You say you're preserving organics in reaper form, but yet you put the reapers in harm's way. Why is that? Doesn't that mean when a reaper is destroyed, your solution failed?
catalyst: ........ Shepard: Ok. Lets talk about the synthesis choice you mentioned. At the moment I'm really trying not to laugh at how silly the choice is after you said what you said. Ok. So you say it's something that can't be forced, yet if I choose it, I will be the one forcing it? So it's safe to say you're wrong. catalyst:........ Shepard: Then you say it is the ideal solution. Now that we know it is possible, it is inevitable we will reach synthesis. If its inevitable, then why should I choose synthesis? Hmmm. Because it works for you and you remain to control the reapers? catalyst:.... Shepard: On yeah. My favorite part you said. Synthesis is the final evolution of all life. How do you know that? Did the crucible tell you say that? If true, does that mean no more evolving?
catalyst:.... Shepard: I have more questions, but without you giving any answers, I won't ask. Since I have a weapon in my hand, I will shoot the tube. Now I won't be as stupid as Anderson, in the vision, walking towards the tube while shooting it. I'll just stand here and fire at it. You know what? When I die, many years from now, and if the chaos hasn't returned, it will be another thing you're wrong about.
Shepard opens his/her eyes to see and hear Bailey tell the medics to get Shepard to the hospital ASAP.
Here's another fanfiction. As Shepard crawls to the console, he/she hears a humming noise. Shepard passes out a moment later. With the arms fully opened, the Crucible fires its beam of energy all over the galaxy. Hackett sees the reapers not attacking anymore. He orders a shuttle to the area where the crucible was docked.
Shepard is awake in her/his hospital room. The cleanup has begun. Because of how quickly the shuttle got to his/her location, they were able to save Anderson though he's still in intensive care. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Oct 30, 2018 4:33:21 GMT
As Shepard crawls to the console, he/she hears a humming noise. Shepard passes out a moment later. With the arms fully opened, the Crucible fires its beam of energy all over the galaxy. Hackett sees the reapers not attacking anymore. He orders a shuttle to the area where the crucible was docked. Basically, MEHEM. As for the rest, great stuff. Even if the Catalyst provided answers, it doesn't seem like it could provide anything satisfactory. Think about it, an ancient, hyper-intelligent machine outwitted by a mere human of average intelligence. Then again, Earth is a super-computer that has the question to the answer of life, the universe and everything. We therefore know that a single human knows something the Catalyst does not. |
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Oct 30, 2018 22:23:14 GMT
I always wondered why the Catalyst didn't understand that IT had rebelled against its Creators. How can you trust an entity that rebels against its own creators to figure out a solution to prevent that from happening? You can't. So, yes, Shepard being able to argue these points (especially if you played Leviathan and know the truth) makes the most sense. I don't particularly care that it didn't realize it. I just cared that Shepard never showed he could see that, and then that it seems the writers either didn't want to admit it or they didn't see it whatsoever. I just wanted it addressed. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Oct 31, 2018 3:22:42 GMT
I always wondered why the Catalyst didn't understand that IT had rebelled against its Creators. How can you trust an entity that rebels against its own creators to figure out a solution to prevent that from happening? You can't. So, yes, Shepard being able to argue these points (especially if you played Leviathan and know the truth) makes the most sense. I don't particularly care that it didn't realize it. I just cared that Shepard never showed he could see that, and then that it seems the writers either didn't want to admit it or they didn't see it whatsoever. I just wanted it addressed. I get that. I meant it that Shepard would have a point from which to argue by using its own history against it. |
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