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Post by colfoley on Dec 6, 2018 1:54:15 GMT
It just occured to me if there is a duel protagonist and they are both on screen at the same time...will we have dueling dialogue wheels. Like we have to start the converrsation as one of them with a dialogue choice and then answer and on and on it goes till the conversation ends?
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 6, 2018 3:18:50 GMT
It just occured to me if there is a duel protagonist and they are both on screen at the same time...will we have dueling dialogue wheels. Like we have to start the converrsation as one of them with a dialogue choice and then answer and on and on it goes till the conversation ends? Reminds me of certain scenes in Detroit: Become Human. It can be done.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Dec 6, 2018 3:22:27 GMT
It just occurred to me if there is a duel protagonist and they are both on screen at the same time...will we have dueling dialogue wheels. Like we have to start the conversation as one of them with a dialogue choice and then answer and on and on it goes till the conversation ends? I would prefer for them not to meet, or if they do, then be put in a situation where it's impossible to have a conversation with one another. If there were any dialogue wheels between them, it would mean the inquisitor would most likely be out of my control.
I always felt my blood mage Hawke in inquisition was an imposter once they started speaking poorly of blood magic.
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Post by isaidlunch on Dec 6, 2018 4:27:44 GMT
There's nothing for the Inquisitor to do before the confrontation with Solas. I wouldn't be opposed to some scenes with them e.g. Solas stalking them in their dreams, but they certainly don't need to be playable like Ciri in TW3.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Dec 6, 2018 5:12:59 GMT
They could always have the inquisitor send orders or messages through an intermediary character (such as Dorian w/ his walkie talkie crystal) to minimise talking to yourself.
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Post by Zemgus on Dec 6, 2018 6:00:50 GMT
Option 5. We've had this conversation here and elsewhere (even back on the old forums) so many times now. It starts to feel like forever since DAI. Can't believe Bioware prioritized Anthem over DA4.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 6, 2018 6:01:48 GMT
They could always have the inquisitor send orders or messages through an intermediary character (such as Dorian w/ his walkie talkie crystal) to minimise talking to yourself. That's kind of what I imagined. If we had a dual protagonist situation, we play a section as the one protagonist and once completed report to Dorian which causes the transition as it goes to the Inquisitor receiving the message and then we play their section. Once they finish they report, causing us to go back to the new protagonist, and the process continues throughout the game.
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Post by JokeDealer on Dec 6, 2018 7:54:15 GMT
My opinion is largely predicated upon the hope that DA4 is set in Tevinter, but I want to see a protagonist who is very much rooted in that nation's politics and culture. I could see two vastly different backgrounds for our protag depending on whether or not they were born a Mage. Then you add the racial aspect (i.e. Elf, Qunari, Dwarf, Human, etc.) to it and it gives you some wildly different origins for our main character, which I hope will be playable once again.
As for the Inquisitor and the Inquisition, I think we may see some remaining agents, but I doubt that we'll see either in an all too grand capacity. In fact, this is one of the reasons that I think the next game will be set in Tevinter. The Inquisition didn't have much of a presence there, which means there's a viable reason for their presence to be in a diminished capacity regardless of your decisions in DAI and Trespasser.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Dec 6, 2018 9:21:17 GMT
I'm not opposed to dual protagonists per se, I just don't want either one of them to be a character I've already played.
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Post by eskiya on Dec 6, 2018 22:39:23 GMT
I highly prefer a new protagonist, no affiliation with the Inquisition, or if there is affiliation...very minimal. Like a minor spy sent some place and gets lost or whatnot.
It's not that I didn't like my Inquisitor, or that I feel Solas isn't over and done... It just makes more sense. The Inquisition in my save is gone. The Inquisitor is too close to Solas, Solas knows how they work, how they plan things, how they think... So it'd be no problem for him to just outsmart the Inquisitor at this point. Trespasser pretty much stated right out that Solas knows them too well, and they need people he has no connections to or knowledge of.
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Post by jadedragon on Dec 6, 2018 23:50:58 GMT
I'm with new protag all the way. Even tho I do think expanding upon how Hawke was introduced in DAI can work. Literally have Dorian who has that Thedas version of a cell phone contact stone allow him to contact the Inquisitor. Which prompts the CC to make our inquisitor in game for the final moments against Solas. I think that should be a last ACT thing and not a mid act like Hawke was.
But to everyone saying " Inquisitor story isn't finished", Well name one protag who isn't dead whose story is finished? The Warden could have had a sequel to their story because witch hunt ended with you learning that Flemeth is a bigger threat then you thought then either stab Morrigan or Follow her in the mirror. Even if it's the Orleasan Warden if ours is dead that moment still happens because Bioware has made all DLC canon events. Now our Warden if alive is looking for a cure for the calling sounds pretty important considering how huge that would impact Thedas and the blight. Warden story is not done.
Hawke could possibly be dead in the fade somehow survived and is trapped on the run in the fade or is somewhat involved in the Warden Civil War. The Warden Civil War plot being the biggest. Not to mention between DA2 and Inquisition Hawke was obviously busying working with the Warden Alley so again still adventuring still having a story. Hawke story is not done.
And of course we know about the Inquisitor. I have nothing against duel protag. But those that just want the Inquisitor changes the core of the dragon age series which judging my three games is about how new heroes influence the Thedas during the Age of Dragons. Tevinter's sets up to good of a chance to make a new protag that could help us dive deeper in the culture how Origins did. Every Protagonist in the series life is going to go own between games and we can't control that. Nobodies story truly ends the perspective of which we play from game to game is what changes and that is what has made Dragon age world building stand out amongst RPGs. You build on top of your world with a new hero each game
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 7, 2018 0:14:42 GMT
I'm with new protag all the way. Even tho I do think expanding upon how Hawke was introduced in DAI can work. Literally have Dorian who has that Thedas version of a cell phone contact stone allow him to contact the Inquisitor. Which prompts the CC to make our inquisitor in game for the final moments against Solas. I think that should be a last ACT thing and not a mid act like Hawke was. But to everyone saying " Inquisitor story isn't finished", Well name one protag who isn't dead whose story is finished? The Warden could have had a sequel to their story because witch hunt ended with you learning that Flemeth is a bigger threat then you thought then either stab Morrigan or Follow her in the mirror. Even if it's the Orleasan Warden if ours is dead that moment still happens because Bioware has made all DLC canon events. Now our Warden if alive is looking for a cure for the calling sounds pretty important considering how huge that would impact Thedas and the blight. Warden story is not done. Hawke could possibly be dead in the fade somehow survived and is trapped on the run in the fade or is somewhat involved in the Warden Civil War. The Warden Civil War plot being the biggest. Not to mention between DA2 and Inquisition Hawke was obviously busying working with the Warden Alley so again still adventuring still having a story. Hawke story is not done. And of course we know about the Inquisitor. I have nothing against duel protag. But those that just want the Inquisitor changes the core of the dragon age series which judging my three games is about how new heroes influence the Thedas during the Age of Dragons. Tevinter's sets up to good of a chance to make a new protag that could help us dive deeper in the culture how Origins did. Every Protagonist in the series life is going to go own between games and we can't control that. Nobodies story truly ends the perspective of which we play from game to game is what changes and that is what has made Dragon age world building stand out amongst RPGs. You build on top of your world with a new hero each game You're confusing a hero being open to have another story with a story not being completed. The main threat that the Warden has to face was the Blight which they stopped. The main threat Hawke had to face was surviving which they did. The heroes of those stories combated the antagonist of those stories and were victorious bringing conclusion. Meanwhile the mission of the Inquisitor and the Inquisition was to seal the Breach and stop those responsible. They did the first part, but the man responsible for everything is still operating at large so the second part is not complete. To add to that is again the conversation in Trespasser that makes the Inquisitor aware of this new threat and antagonist. The new possible story you are arguing could happen for the Warden or Hawke has already happened for the Inquisitor so they need to conclude it. Huh, here I thought the core of the series was telling the best stories possible. Not sacrificing that to follow some unofficial arbitrary rule that they've already considered breaking in the past. I guess you think all Mass Effect games should involve Shepard since by your argument they were the core of the series. And sure, go ahead and continue that tradition...once you properly conclude the current story.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Dec 7, 2018 0:42:21 GMT
I mean, Dragon Age 2 was supposed to have an expansion that got cancelled, so Hawke's story is as "unfinished" as you can get.
But regardless, just because Trespasser hints at further adventures doesn't ACTUALLY mean that any are forthcoming. Plenty of games, films and novels deliberately leave unresolved plot threads that never go anywhere because the franchise doesn't continue.
The argument that the Inquisitor MUST be the protagonist of the next game is predicated on a belief that his story is unfinished. Whether or not ANY story is ever really finished is really subjective. I don't feel that anything about Trespasser necessitates that the Inquisitor return in any capacity. In fact, if anything, it left the possibilities wide-open.
The Inquisitor is not and never was the ONLY person with a reason to take down Solas. People attach unwarranted importance to the Inquisitor because they have an emotional attachment to a character they created. Which is understandable.
But Solas's actions threaten the entire world. If the writers CAN'T give a new protagonist an equally compelling, personal reason to want to fight him, then they're not very good writers.
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Post by 10k on Dec 7, 2018 4:53:59 GMT
So if the protagonist is the Inquisitor, I wonder will the squadmates from inquisition make a return as well. At the very least Cass should be a squadmate.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 7, 2018 4:58:49 GMT
So if the protagonist is the Inquisitor, I wonder will the squadmates from inquisition make a return as well. At the very least Cass should be a squadmate. I imagine that we'll have mostly new people as the companions, while our old companions help out in other ways. For example maybe like how all our squadmates appeared to help in certain missions in ME3.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 7, 2018 5:00:01 GMT
So if the protagonist is the Inquisitor, I wonder will the squadmates from inquisition make a return as well. At the very least Cass should be a squadmate. Some, maybe (if in Tevinter, Dorian will be a prime choice), but some are unlikely. I’d say Cassandra, given the possible Divine status, is in that list.
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Post by eternalgoddess on Dec 7, 2018 5:20:53 GMT
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 7, 2018 5:25:46 GMT
New protagonist means new romances. Yes please. 😎
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Post by phoray on Dec 7, 2018 5:26:19 GMT
New protagonist means new romances. Yes please. 😎 Falling in love again *dreamy sigh*
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 7, 2018 5:27:04 GMT
New protagonist means new romances. Yes please. 😎 No it doesn’t. Shepard returned as protagonist in ME2 and ME3 and got new romances each time.
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Post by phoray on Dec 7, 2018 5:28:23 GMT
New protagonist means new romances. Yes please. 😎 No it doesn’t. Shepard returned as protagonist in ME2 and ME3 and got new romances each time. That created a host of problems even you've complained about.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 7, 2018 5:29:22 GMT
No it doesn’t. Shepard returned as protagonist in ME2 and ME3 and got new romances each time. That created a host of problems even you've complained about. What problems did I complain about that was caused by that?
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Post by phoray on Dec 7, 2018 5:30:12 GMT
That created a host of problems even you've complained about. What problems did I complain about that was caused by that? Didn't your fave romance get shoved off the ship in ME3 because she wasn't a favorite?
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 7, 2018 5:30:23 GMT
New protagonist means new romances. Yes please. 😎 Falling in love again *dreamy sigh* Yaaaass. 😍 New protagonist means new romances. Yes please. 😎 No it doesn’t. Shepard returned as protagonist in ME2 and ME3 and got new romances each time. I ain't gonna cheat on my wife, lol. If we play as the Inquisitor, I'm romancing Sera and no one else. If we play as a new protag, Inky can romance Sera and New Person can romance Someone Else.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 7, 2018 5:31:16 GMT
What problems did I complain about that was caused by that? Didn't your fave romance get shoved off the ship in ME3 because she wasn't a favorite? No, I imagine she got shoved off the ship because she could die in ME2.
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