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Post by colfoley on Mar 13, 2019 20:30:00 GMT
If he even can given i strongly suspect that the Deep Roads might be a place of 'anti fade' That's... a really interesting point. Can you elaborate on your reasons? Not to put you on the spot or anything, but I haven't heard that theory before. Well believe it or not it started by connecting HLTA with Dwarven Mythology. Basically Dwarven mythology says that you can fall up into the sky, pretty much every reaction of every Dwarf is fearing this outcome. Sounds cute, until you consider what happened at Adamant when the Inquisitor opened up a fade rift mid air and then briefly was inverted, they quite literally fell 'up' into the sky. Plus the fade has usually been associated with the sky and i believe the Void was the Elven name for the Deep Roads. Plus its punishable by exile to even glimpse the sky plus the Dwarves have no evidence of ever being connected to the fade and their magic seems Titan Based not Fade based. More importantly the event which woke the Titan was the breach, just a little fade caused an instantaneous and violent reaction I also contend that if the Veil ever does come down the Deep Roads might provide some refuge.
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Post by Lazarillo on Mar 13, 2019 20:37:18 GMT
Basically Dwarven mythology says that you can fall up into the sky, pretty much every reaction of every Dwarf is fearing this outcome. Sounds cute, until you consider what happened at Adamant when the Inquisitor opened up a fade rift mid air and then briefly was inverted, they quite literally fell 'up' into the sky. There's honestly a much more literal explanation for it, really. This is below the Deep Roads. Sure looks like a sky you can fall into to me.
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Post by Noxluxe on Mar 13, 2019 21:05:09 GMT
That's... a really interesting point. Can you elaborate on your reasons? Not to put you on the spot or anything, but I haven't heard that theory before. Well believe it or not it started by connecting HLTA with Dwarven Mythology. Basically Dwarven mythology says that you can fall up into the sky, pretty much every reaction of every Dwarf is fearing this outcome. Sounds cute, until you consider what happened at Adamant when the Inquisitor opened up a fade rift mid air and then briefly was inverted, they quite literally fell 'up' into the sky. Plus the fade has usually been associated with the sky and i believe the Void was the Elven name for the Deep Roads. Plus its punishable by exile to even glimpse the sky plus the Dwarves have no evidence of ever being connected to the fade and their magic seems Titan Based not Fade based. More importantly the event which woke the Titan was the breach, just a little fade caused an instantaneous and violent reaction I also contend that if the Veil ever does come down the Deep Roads might provide some refuge. Huh. Looks like I might end up playing a dwarf in 4 anyway, if this turns out to be relevant. And it's exactly the kind of creepy primeval history theory crafting that got me hooked on Lovecraft. Well done. I hope it's true. It really puts the whole Blight thing in another light too, with the darkspawn tainting the lyrium which then started thinning the Veil down there, causing yet another imbalance. The Archdemons and Coryphewhatshisface were imprisoned underground to isolate them from greedy magical influences, but instead their presence helped corrupt the place. Ever since I played my Dwarven warden and realized how much more relevant to the Dwarves the plot of Origins is compared to every other race, I've chafed at how little attention they seemed to be getting in the grander scheme. It would be really cool if the next game, or the one after that given how Tevinter really is nowhere near either Orzammar or Kal-sharok, put them more in the spotlight. This is below the Deep Roads. Sure looks like a sky you can fall into to me. Also true. I don't see the two explanations need to be mutually exclusive though.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 13, 2019 21:10:50 GMT
Well believe it or not it started by connecting HLTA with Dwarven Mythology. Basically Dwarven mythology says that you can fall up into the sky, pretty much every reaction of every Dwarf is fearing this outcome. Sounds cute, until you consider what happened at Adamant when the Inquisitor opened up a fade rift mid air and then briefly was inverted, they quite literally fell 'up' into the sky. Plus the fade has usually been associated with the sky and i believe the Void was the Elven name for the Deep Roads. Plus its punishable by exile to even glimpse the sky plus the Dwarves have no evidence of ever being connected to the fade and their magic seems Titan Based not Fade based. More importantly the event which woke the Titan was the breach, just a little fade caused an instantaneous and violent reaction I also contend that if the Veil ever does come down the Deep Roads might provide some refuge. Huh. Looks like I might end up playing a dwarf in 4 anyway, if this turns out to be relevant. And it's exactly the kind of creepy primeval history theory crafting that got me hooked on Lovecraft. Well done. I hope it's true. It really puts the whole Blight thing in another light too, with the darkspawn tainting the lyrium which then started thinning the Veil down there, causing yet another an imbalance. The Archdemons and Coryphewhatshisface were imprisoned underground to isolate them from greedy magical influences, but instead their presence helped corrupt the place. Ever since I played my Dwarven warden and realized how much more relevant to the Dwarves the plot of Origins is compared to every other race, I've chafed at how little attention they seemed to be getting in the grander scheme. It would be really cool if the next game, or the one after that given how Tevinter really is nowhere near either Orzammar or Kal-sharok, put them more in the spotlight. ive always been more of the impression that a human noble was the most plot relevant in Origins. That has certainly been my perspective. I'm honestly hoping that DA does for the Dwarves and Qunari what Inq did for the Elves. Maybe get a good heaping of human lore too but there is still a lot of unanswered questions on the origins of both races. Regardless my first two characters will be human.
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Post by Noxluxe on Mar 13, 2019 21:44:13 GMT
Huh. Looks like I might end up playing a dwarf in 4 anyway, if this turns out to be relevant. And it's exactly the kind of creepy primeval history theory crafting that got me hooked on Lovecraft. Well done. I hope it's true. It really puts the whole Blight thing in another light too, with the darkspawn tainting the lyrium which then started thinning the Veil down there, causing yet another an imbalance. The Archdemons and Coryphewhatshisface were imprisoned underground to isolate them from greedy magical influences, but instead their presence helped corrupt the place. Ever since I played my Dwarven warden and realized how much more relevant to the Dwarves the plot of Origins is compared to every other race, I've chafed at how little attention they seemed to be getting in the grander scheme. It would be really cool if the next game, or the one after that given how Tevinter really is nowhere near either Orzammar or Kal-sharok, put them more in the spotlight. ive always been more of the impression that a human noble was the most plot relevant in Origins. That has certainly been my perspective. I'm honestly hoping that DA does for the Dwarves and Qunari what Inq did for the Elves. Maybe get a good heaping of human lore too but there is still a lot of unanswered questions on the origins of both races. Regardless my first two characters will be human. Mhm, that Arl Howe vendetta is tasty. But I absolutely disagree. Seems to me that the Darkspawn are 99% a Dwarven problem, and a human or elf Warden is essentially just moonlighting as a fighter for the cause. A Dwarven protagonist has real motive to stick with the mission even after the game. Why two humans? What sorts? Sorry if you've already outlined that in an earlier post.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Mar 13, 2019 22:00:48 GMT
I wonder what this says about his outlook on the Dwarves as well as Elven culture in general given the Dwarves likely were never, and can never be, connected to the fade in the first place. Solas' views on the Dwarves are pretty clear: back in the good old days, they were all slaves to the Titans with no free will, and thus, this is how they should still be. His clamoring for "freedom" doesn't apply to them because that's just not "how Dwarves are supposed to be". More of his inherent racism. The dwarves were separated from the Titans pre-veil, though. His severed arm of a great hero thing likely doesn't apply to them being enslaved bits of the hivemind, but their remembrance of their own nature and the nature of the Stone, that seems to have been lost post-veil if the changes in teh memories mean anything.
Though I'm not sure the ancient elves were right when they described the dwarves as "scuttling, scurrying" "witless souless" and their relationship to the "Pillars of the Earth" in the those old writings in first place. I mean, it makes them sound like enslaved mindless drones, but from the dwarves' perspective maybe that was fine? Maybe a hivemind prevents individuality and free will, but maybe it doesn't? Maybe their collective free will drove the Titan b/c they were basically one creature? Or maybe, even if it does inhibit those things, it still allows a certain kind of happiness for the dwarves that they don't have otherwise? Dagna's insight when she examines that fade scraping form the Inquisitormade it sound like she lamented the loss of the connection to the Titan. I mean, she also didn't want to lose herself as she is now, and I don't want her to, but it wasn't some kind of malevolent borg collective vibe she got from it, either.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 13, 2019 22:33:09 GMT
ive always been more of the impression that a human noble was the most plot relevant in Origins. That has certainly been my perspective. I'm honestly hoping that DA does for the Dwarves and Qunari what Inq did for the Elves. Maybe get a good heaping of human lore too but there is still a lot of unanswered questions on the origins of both races. Regardless my first two characters will be human. Mhm, that Arl Howe vendetta is tasty. But I absolutely disagree. Seems to me that the Darkspawn are 99% a Dwarven problem, and a human or elf Warden is essentially just moonlighting as a fighter for the cause. A Dwarven protagonist has real motive to stick with the mission even after the game. Why two humans? What sorts? Sorry if you've already outlined that in an earlier post. I have outlined my hopes for my first character on page one of the first character thread. I usually am more comfortable playing as ( and romancing) humans. My males tend to be my adaptations of other fictional characters and my women tend to be pure OCs. Im thinking going to be male rogue and female warrior. If i get around to making a third character theyll probably be an other race mage.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Mar 14, 2019 0:52:16 GMT
This is the second thread in which you've accused me of harboring real-life genocidal fantasies just because I can sympathize with decisions of video game characters that require the deaths of numerous people, and despite thirteen thousand/+ years escalating violence and misery you just can't accept that occasionally actually being necessary for one reason or another. Imagine a woman starved half to death on her way to the gas chamber, or being electrocuted with increasing voltage to determine the point at which the human body started taking lethal damage from the current (0.0033 Ampere, by the by, because that's how we know today and why the relay in your home immediately switches off if more than 0.003 suddenly go unaccounted for). Can you imagine her hoping that her suffering would someday abruptly be brought up in a discussion about video games as a straw man to try to browbeat someone into applauding the strictly theoretical virtue and fair-mindedness of some overenthusiastic geek who never faced real hardship in his life? I sure as hell can't. But there you go again. Because you just can't be bothered to actually debate people on their actual points. Because why should you have to, with all that infinite and totally untested wisdom we all should be heeding on principle? I haven't accused you of anything. Yet. You've explicitly stated, multiple times, that you think it's theoretically possible for genocide to be justified. I don't agree, I will never agree. I will also never agree that Solas is somehow uniquely qualified or entitled to decide the fate of the world and all the people in it. And yes, Solas's position is "nazi talk", ANY AND ALL ATTEMPTS TO JUSTIFY GENOCIDE ON ANY BASIS ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE NAZI TALK. You don't know anything about my life, or the hardships I may or may not have faced, and they aren't remotely relevant to the validity of my argument.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 14, 2019 1:44:18 GMT
Just taking a quick poll here is anyone actually saying that genocide is justified or that Solas is righteous in him doing what he's doing?
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Post by Noxluxe on Mar 14, 2019 6:58:05 GMT
I haven't accused you of anything. Yet. You've explicitly stated, multiple times, that you think it's theoretically possible for genocide to be justified. I don't agree, I will never agree. I will also never agree that Solas is somehow uniquely qualified or entitled to decide the fate of the world and all the people in it. And yes, Solas's position is "nazi talk", ANY AND ALL ATTEMPTS TO JUSTIFY GENOCIDE ON ANY BASIS ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE NAZI TALK. You don't know anything about my life, or the hardships I may or may not have faced, and they aren't remotely relevant to the validity of my argument. Oh, yes they are. All that silly virtue signalling is easy to throw off when you've never actually had to make those kinds of decisions, or any decisions at all that affect a large number of people. Christ, there's almost nothing more pathetic than comfortably situated armchair idealists who do nothing but sit and judge the world while pretending that if THEY were ever put in a difficult position and forced to prioritize the survival or prosperity of some people over others, or God forbid allowed to organize society from the ground-up, they would do it perfectly and with perfect ethical consistency and without a single unfairly hurt soul or compromise to their dearly-held, purely theoretical principles. And obviously anyone who disagrees on any point must be a monster, because they don't support your perfectly virtuous view of the world. Because that's totally how the world, and people, and virtue, work in real life. Nobody gives a flying fuck how much you don't like genocide, kiddo. I usually am more comfortable playing as ( and romancing) humans. My males tend to be my adaptations of other fictional characters and my women tend to be pure OCs. Im thinking going to be male rogue and female warrior. If i get around to making a third character theyll probably be an other race mage. I've been there too. There's a bunch of great inspiration for complex human characters - at least male ones - to draw from. And not quite so much for other races. After fifteen years of playing those guys I just kind of got bored.
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 14, 2019 7:41:20 GMT
Just taking a quick poll here is anyone actually saying that genocide is justified or that Solas is righteous in him doing what he's doing? I would like to know too so I can block them. Jk. Kinda.
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Post by Noxluxe on Mar 14, 2019 8:15:10 GMT
Just taking a quick poll here is anyone actually saying that 1) genocide is justified or that 2) Solas is righteous in him doing what he's doing? 1) Obviously not under any normal circumstances. But once we start talking about hypothetically granting entire populations immortality or not, or substantially increasing or decreasing the likelihood of preventing a mass extinction of sentient species, as in Mass Effect, choices where all options can realistically be considered genocidal by default, clinging to that logic instead of considering the various options by their actual merits just prevents you from making the best of a bad situation. 2) Couldn't say. We don't know the exact nature or ramifications of his plan yet. On the face of it it makes sense for him to feel so, though, and for most everyone else to vehemently disagree.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 14, 2019 8:20:09 GMT
Just taking a quick poll here is anyone actually saying that 1) genocide is justified or that 2) Solas is righteous in him doing what he's doing? 1) Obviously not under any normal circumstances. But once we start talking about hypothetically granting entire populations immortality or not, or substantially increasing or decreasing the likelihood of preventing a mass extinction of sentient species, as in Mass Effect, choices where any option can realistically be considered genocidal by default, clinging to that logic instead of considering the various options by their actual merits just prevents you from making the best of a bad situation. 2) Couldn't say. We don't know the exact nature or ramifications of his plan yet. On the face of it it makes sense for him to feel so, though, and for most everyone else to vehemently disagree. Or to quote the Doctor: "Sometimes the only choices are bad ones, but you still have to choose."
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Mar 14, 2019 11:11:31 GMT
Unless leaving the veil up will lead to some delayed side effect that will kill everyone, and taking the veil down is the only way for some life to continue, Solas doesn't have a moral leg to stand on.
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Post by Noxluxe on Mar 14, 2019 15:57:10 GMT
Unless leaving the veil up will lead to some delayed side effect that will kill everyone, and taking the veil down is the only way for some life to continue, Solas doesn't have a moral leg to stand on. Well, from a certain point of view the veil is systematically killing elves, and who knows, maybe even humans and Qunari too once they reach a certain age, when they by nature should have had the opportunity to live forever. And at the same time it's driving the spirits stir-crazy and turning them into demons. That sort of qualifies. Again, we really don't know the specifics of his plan or its ramifications. If I remember his hints right, they were vague enough to mean anything from simply the shattering of civilization and the current world order to outright mass extinction. The former might well be worth it. Personally, I trust him to not attempt to do something that he thinks will kill almost everyone. I don't quite trust him to actually be able to know that for certain or control the exact outcome though, given his record. I don't remember him saying anything along the lines of "This time, I'm gonna be extra careful." which would have been really really nice to hear.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 14, 2019 16:40:36 GMT
Just taking a quick poll here is anyone actually saying that 1) genocide is justified or that 2) Solas is righteous in him doing what he's doing? 1) Obviously not under any normal circumstances. But once we start talking about hypothetically granting entire populations immortality or not, or substantially increasing or decreasing the likelihood of preventing a mass extinction of sentient species, as in Mass Effect, choices where all options can realistically be considered genocidal by default, clinging to that logic instead of considering the various options by their actual merits just prevents you from making the best of a bad situation. 2) Couldn't say. We don't know the exact nature or ramifications of his plan yet. On the face of it it makes sense for him to feel so, though, and for most everyone else to vehemently disagree. So you do think genocide can be justified. That’s absolutely disgusting.
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Post by Noxluxe on Mar 14, 2019 16:59:49 GMT
1) Obviously not under any normal circumstances. But once we start talking about hypothetically granting entire populations immortality or not, or substantially increasing or decreasing the likelihood of preventing a mass extinction of sentient species, as in Mass Effect, choices where all options can realistically be considered genocidal by default, clinging to that logic instead of considering the various options by their actual merits just prevents you from making the best of a bad situation. 2) Couldn't say. We don't know the exact nature or ramifications of his plan yet. On the face of it it makes sense for him to feel so, though, and for most everyone else to vehemently disagree. So you do think genocide can be justified. That’s absolutely disgusting. As the only hypothetical alternative to much worse genocides? Uh-huh. What would you do, potentially let everyone die just so you wouldn't have to feel like a dirty dirty bad guy? That's absolutely cowardly and short-sighted and irresponsible, and would likely get even more people killed unnecessarily, which is even more disgusting.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 14, 2019 17:04:39 GMT
So you do think genocide can be justified. That’s absolutely disgusting. As the only hypothetical alternative to much worse genocides? Uh-huh. What would you do, potentially let everyone die just so you wouldn't have to feel like a dirty dirty bad guy? That's cowardly and short-sighted and irresponsible. There’s absolutely no evidence that everyone will die if he doesn’t tear down the Veil. As for Mass Effect, there were other options. So like those, I would look for alternatives since there are always alternatives. Nothing shortsighted or irresponsible about it, unlike playing God and determining who gets to live or die.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Mar 14, 2019 17:05:04 GMT
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Post by Noxluxe on Mar 14, 2019 17:32:44 GMT
There’s absolutely no evidence that everyone will die if he doesn’t tear down the Veil. As for Mass Effect, there were other options. So like those, I would look for alternatives since there are always alternatives. Nothing shortsighted or irresponsible about it, unlike playing God and determining who gets to live or die. Yes, there is. Everyone is dying. Everyone has been dying for thousands of years, and pretty reliably at that. Tearing down the veil might help that. And yes, there were other options in Mass Effect, but they were always long-shots and incredibly unlikely to succeed, which made it short-sighted and irresponsible to bet everyone's lives on them with safer alternatives available at the cost of only a fraction of the lives you were ultimately responsible for saving. You're playing God and trying to determine who gets to live and die no matter what. That's what it is to make big and wide-ranging decisions, which is why we don't give that sort of responsibility to just anyone. You would apparently just gamble with people's lives as you personally felt like it, going for the impossibly unlikely jackpot where everyone lives happily ever after with the only other, and far more likely, option being decimation. Again, shortsighted and irresponsible. And a very tragic story with very tragic outcomes if you weren't playing a kid-friendly fantasy game. Which we are but our characters aren't.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 14, 2019 17:39:14 GMT
There’s absolutely no evidence that everyone will die if he doesn’t tear down the Veil. As for Mass Effect, there were other options. So like those, I would look for alternatives since there are always alternatives. Nothing shortsighted or irresponsible about it, unlike playing God and determining who gets to live or die. Yes, there is. Everyone is dying. Don't know if you've noticed. Everyone has been dying for thousands of years. Tearing down the veil might help that. And yes, there were other options in Mass Effect, but they were always long-shots and incredibly unlikely to succeed, which made it short-sighted and irresponsible to bet everyone's lives on them with safer alternatives available at the cost of only a fraction of the lives you're ultimately responsible for saving. You're playing God and trying to determine who gets to live and die no matter what. That's what it is to make big and wide-ranging decisions, which is why we don't give that sort of responsibility to just anyone. You would apparently just gamble with people's lives as you personally felt like it, going for the impossibly unlikely jackpot where everyone lives happily ever after with the only other, and far more likely, option being decimation. Again, shortsighted and irresponsible. Might? You’re willing to kill everyone on a possibility? You accuse me of gambling with people’s lives when that is exactly what you are doing. Furthermore, it is a gamble you will lose since tearing down the Veil won’t help any of the people alive with the exception of the Ancient Elves. Solas states this. As for Mass Effect, how is Destroy any less of a long shot? If anything it is more since you have to trust the thing leading the Reapers that damaging the weapon you built to kill them will do what you hope.
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Post by Noxluxe on Mar 14, 2019 17:51:57 GMT
Yes, there is. Everyone is dying. Don't know if you've noticed. Everyone has been dying for thousands of years. Tearing down the veil might help that. Might? You’re willing to kill everyone on a possibility? You accuse me of gambling with people’s lives when that is exactly what you are doing. Furthermore, it is a gamble you will lose since tearing down the Veil won’t help any of the people alive with the exception of the Ancient Elves. Solas states this. Nope, but I'd probably be willing to risk quite a few lives on it. I might even be convinced to die for it myself. People not dying forever would be a pretty big deal, if you can imagine. And I'm not accusing you of gambling, I'm telling you that that's what we're both doing. You're just doing it badly, heedlessly betting everything you have on the jackpot at every opportunity, while I cut my losses and go with the risk vs reward analysis. Which one of us would be more likely to leave a casino with empty pockets, do you think? And that's very interesting, I don't personally remember any lines where he puts it quite like that. If you can come up with a quote I'd be delighted to unpack it with you.
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Post by wright1978 on Mar 14, 2019 17:52:22 GMT
Unless leaving the veil up will lead to some delayed side effect that will kill everyone, and taking the veil down is the only way for some life to continue, Solas doesn't have a moral leg to stand on. Do we know if the blight might be related/unrelated to the presence of the veil? i seem to recall solas not being enamoured of the wardens and Appearing to know more than he was revealing.
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Post by Noxluxe on Mar 14, 2019 17:56:38 GMT
Unless leaving the veil up will lead to some delayed side effect that will kill everyone, and taking the veil down is the only way for some life to continue, Solas doesn't have a moral leg to stand on. Do we know if the blight might be related/unrelated to the presence of the veil? i seem to recall solas not being enamoured of the wardens and Appearing to know more than he was revealing. Well, Coryphewhatshisface confirmed that the darkspawn really were created when the ancient Magisters tried to reach the Black City. Which is in the Fade, which only exists as a seperate realm because Solas created the veil. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if there was a direct connection.
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Post by theascendent on Mar 14, 2019 18:28:57 GMT
Do you guys think we'll be able to have a playable origin, unique depending on one's race/class like in Origins? I hope we do. This game needs to remind us that Tevinter is radically different from the rest of Thedas and a way to ease in new players who might be playing their first Dragon Age game.
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