Cybear
N1
Blessed are the peacekeepers, the champions of the just.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 37 Likes: 79
inherit
10676
0
Mar 11, 2019 23:12:52 GMT
79
Cybear
Blessed are the peacekeepers, the champions of the just.
37
Dec 14, 2018 21:44:55 GMT
December 2018
cybear
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Cybear on Dec 16, 2018 0:49:50 GMT
As a kid half of my gaming time was spent on PC (the other PS1), and I remember loving it. However in more recent years I've stopped playing PC, instead settling into a console-only kind of gaming routine. The laptop I have now is pretty much strictly used for work and/or online purposes, it is also a Mac, and so I've fallen extremely out of touch with PC gaming and PCs in general.
Now I'm thinking of taking the plunge and getting back into PC gaming, in part because there's a lot of exclusives I can't play, and also because I'd love to make use of mods in some of the games I love. So I'm here asking for some help from some of the more knowledgeable PC-gamers.
What kind of system should I be looking for? What things should I avoid? And what are some key terminology I should know about? I seriously know nothing. I'm looking for a system that could ideally play MMOs like WoW and SWTOR, though at the same time can also play games from my childhood (ie. original Fallouts, Diablo, etc..) but I've heard that sometimes older games can't run on newer computers? Is that a thing I should take into account?
I know I'm asking a lot of questions and sound like an confused old man, but buying a gaming PC is a very large (and expensive) commitment, so I want to make sure I know everything that I can to make an informed decision.
Thanks in advance.
|
|
mousestalker
Inactive Moderator
ღ The Untitled
Just here for the cosplay
Staff Mini-Profile Theme: Mousestalker
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
Posts: 12,116 Likes: 30,348
inherit
ღ The Untitled
72
0
1
Jan 31, 2024 11:38:50 GMT
30,348
mousestalker
Just here for the cosplay
12,116
August 2016
mousestalker
Mousestalker
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
|
Post by mousestalker on Dec 16, 2018 1:18:33 GMT
Modern games are no longer pushing the PC component envelope as they did back in the day. Most 'gaming rigs' can handle the vast majority of new games. Bt avoiding the bleeding edge you can buy a very good computer for significantly less.
As for running older games, that can be trickier. I will let someone who knows more answer that question.
|
|
inherit
679
0
3,539
CHRrOME
2,805
August 2016
chrrome
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect Andromeda
666
112 ish
|
Post by CHRrOME on Dec 16, 2018 1:50:10 GMT
If you only plan on playing MMO likes and older games, then nothing too fancy I guess. But to be honest if you plan on playing more modern games, I'll go for something more serious. It's up to you. I assume you don't know much about building? since you mentioned you basically don't know much about PCs in general.
And yeah... really old games are tricky with newer PCs and newer hardware also. It's a lottery when it comes to that.
|
|
inherit
1086
0
Jan 25, 2017 20:52:04 GMT
2,600
nanotm
a tidy workspace is the sign of a deranged mind
3,879
Aug 20, 2016 19:53:16 GMT
August 2016
nanotm
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
nanotm
nanotm
|
Post by nanotm on Dec 16, 2018 2:21:45 GMT
As a kid half of my gaming time was spent on PC (the other PS1), and I remember loving it. However in more recent years I've stopped playing PC, instead settling into a console-only kind of gaming routine. The laptop I have now is pretty much strictly used for work and/or online purposes, it is also a Mac, and so I've fallen extremely out of touch with PC gaming and PCs in general. Now I'm thinking of taking the plunge and getting back into PC gaming, in part because there's a lot of exclusives I can't play, and also because I'd love to make use of mods in some of the games I love. So I'm here asking for some help from some of the more knowledgeable PC-gamers. What kind of system should I be looking for? What things should I avoid? And what are some key terminology I should know about? I seriously know nothing. I'm looking for a system that could ideally play MMOs like WoW and SWTOR, though at the same time can also play games from my childhood (ie. original Fallouts, Diablo, etc..) but I've heard that sometimes older games can't run on newer computers? Is that a thing I should take into account? I know I'm asking a lot of questions and sound like an confused old man, but buying a gaming PC is a very large (and expensive) commitment, so I want to make sure I know everything that I can to make an informed decision. Thanks in advance. if your just looking at playing the stuff listed then get a second hand pc, for the games get a steam account and buy them during the winter sale that starts in a few days, steam updates games so they play on more modern hardware fairly regularly although some games were just trash when they came out and never ran properly in the first place so dont be expecting miracles if your set on buying the parts and building it yourself then go with something thats good for lots of things, a ryzen 5 2600 cpu paired with either the gtx1050ti 4gb card (if your really on a budget then the r5 2200g it works without an external graphics card) paired with a small ssd (no point going for nvme it doesnt run any faster) for the operating system and a spinning disk for the game library (try to find something thats a 7200 rpm drive with a decent cache but stay away from hybrid drives) and at least 8gb of ddr4 ram (16gb of ram and a better gfx card like the 6gb gtx1060 or the amd rx 580 8gb, although there have been lots of driver issues with those cards recently) the ram speed might as well be the cheapest you can get since if your not into overclocking the higher numbers mean nothing to you when it will run at defualt speed, similarly the motherboard might as well be the cheapest one although get a b450 version of the am4 socket board I would have said if you can afford it go for hte i5 9600 but there like overpriced and hard to get hold of since intel is shit at product launches not to mention the mobo's are also overpriced and your just as likely to get an old version of the socket if your not up on what goes with what (and the store wont be able to help that much either) the other big bonus with the amd side of the cpu market is it will provide you with greater versatility and future expandability at the loss of a few ipc cycles (which relates to maybe as much as 10 fps with everything at max settings) not to mention the wraith cooler is actually pretty good so you dont have to waste effort finding something better... it will also mean you can do other stuff on it (like work tasks) or streaming /twitch whilst running your games should you wish, of course theres no harm in going to an online store and using a pc customizer and seeing what you can get away wiht and what they recommend for various games, that can be even better and often cheaper than buying parts and building it yourself just look around at lots of different sites its not like theres a shortage of them, might even be that just walking into a store and picking up one of the low end games systems will be all you need to do /
|
|
Sanunes
N6
Just a flip of the coin.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Prime Posts: 4392
Prime Likes: 882
Posts: 5,890 Likes: 8,906
inherit
1561
0
8,906
Sanunes
Just a flip of the coin.
5,890
Sept 13, 2016 11:51:12 GMT
September 2016
sanunes
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
4392
882
|
Post by Sanunes on Dec 16, 2018 4:18:20 GMT
You don't need a bleeding edge computer for PC gaming these days. Aside from my video card I am using everything from a 10 year old PC. A lot of choices anymore become about preference so its hard for me to give a recommendation for I have a bias against AMD and that means what I suggest is normally a little more on the expensive side. The only time you are going to really have to spend a lot of money on a PC is if you are aiming for 4k gaming at 60fps and to me that is a waste of money.
When dealing with older games if you using older copies that you already own that can become a problem, but I have found buying them through GoG they make sure they are working on newer hardware to save you from having to do all the work yourself and most of the time they are on the cheaper side of things or at least go on sale a few times each year.
|
|
inherit
1093
0
Mar 28, 2024 23:01:54 GMT
1,466
bmwcrazy
1,088
August 2016
bmwcrazy
|
Post by bmwcrazy on Dec 17, 2018 0:14:08 GMT
Personally, I'd recommend you getting a prebuild desktop PC instead of a gaming laptop. That way you can save yourself some money and you can also learn to work on it when you need to upgrade it in the future.
Desktops are a lot less expensive and easier to replace the parts than laptops.
Both nVidia and AMD will release their new mid-range GPU lineups in 2019. nVidia will have the RTX 2060 and AMD will have the awesome 7nm Navi-based RX 3060, 3070, and 3080. So it's probably a better idea to wait for those instead of getting a video card that's already a couple years old like the GTX 1060 (2 years old) and the RX 590 (which is basically an RX 480/580).
|
|
inherit
Elvis Has Left The Building
244
0
Sept 26, 2016 13:29:55 GMT
19,064
Arijon van Goyen
10,446
August 2016
kaiserarian
17300
|
Post by Arijon van Goyen on Dec 17, 2018 5:29:02 GMT
Oi only noobs started video games with PS1. Cool kids started gaming with Amiga, SNES or Sega Mega Drive!
|
|
inherit
1086
0
Jan 25, 2017 20:52:04 GMT
2,600
nanotm
a tidy workspace is the sign of a deranged mind
3,879
Aug 20, 2016 19:53:16 GMT
August 2016
nanotm
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
nanotm
nanotm
|
Post by nanotm on Dec 17, 2018 5:53:55 GMT
Oi only noobs started video games with PS1. Cool kids started gaming with Amiga, SNES or Sega Mega Drive! console peasant cool kids started with the bbc, spectrum or commodore variant (depending on their age of course) and progressed through every garbage console there was back to pc master race again in the mid 90's wiht such classics as dune doom and quake all of which required specific x86 hardware and a monstrous amount of disc space ( and there is one thing I think manufacturers lied about a lot, certainly given that I was using hardware dating to the 70's at work that involved spinning discs and let me store terabytes of data to it (indeed something they use in the demolition man film after the military declassified it) but then again hard drives were struggling to go over 250mb in size in the 90's so anything that used up more than 1mb of drive space was monstrous and most things came on a collection of floppies ….
|
|
inherit
Elvis Has Left The Building
244
0
Sept 26, 2016 13:29:55 GMT
19,064
Arijon van Goyen
10,446
August 2016
kaiserarian
17300
|
Post by Arijon van Goyen on Dec 17, 2018 6:16:14 GMT
Oi only noobs started video games with PS1. Cool kids started gaming with Amiga, SNES or Sega Mega Drive! console peasant cool kids started with the bbc, spectrum or commodore variant (depending on their age of course) and progressed through every garbage console there was back to pc master race again in the mid 90's wiht such classics as dune doom and quake all of which required specific x86 hardware and a monstrous amount of disc space ( and there is one thing I think manufacturers lied about a lot, certainly given that I was using hardware dating to the 70's at work that involved spinning discs and let me store terabytes of data to it (indeed something they use in the demolition man film after the military declassified it) but then again hard drives were struggling to go over 250mb in size in the 90's so anything that used up more than 1mb of drive space was monstrous and most things came on a collection of floppies …. Speak for yoself. My late 90s PC had 6 GB of HDD... almost the equivalent of 6 TB of storage by current standards!
|
|
inherit
Elvis Has Left The Building
244
0
Sept 26, 2016 13:29:55 GMT
19,064
Arijon van Goyen
10,446
August 2016
kaiserarian
17300
|
Post by Arijon van Goyen on Dec 17, 2018 6:36:33 GMT
I'm looking for a system that could ideally play MMOs like WoW and SWTOR, though at the same time can also play games from my childhood (ie. original Fallouts, Diablo, etc..) but I've heard that sometimes older games can't run on newer computers? Is that a thing I should take into account? I wouldn't call myself an expert exactly, but at the very least I can tell you that in order to run those games you wouldn't need a super-expensive gaming PC. Basically, if you want to run the newest games on the highest settings, that's what necessitates getting those super expensive graphics cards, lots of RAM, and a good CPU. Unless you don't need a super expensive Core i9 or something, depending on your monitor resolution (2K monitors are the most optimal, most 4K monitors still suck refreshing-wise and need gigantic power for above 30 FPS gaming) you can get very good and cheaper Core i7 and Core i5 s , but I hear very good stuff about much cheaper recent AMD CPUs (series 5 might even suffice). But indeed AMD GPUs are trashy right now. So yeah a typical Nvidia X60-X70 is very good and economical (rather than X80ti) {instead of X put 9,10 or 20). RAM... current games are reaching 8 GB required and higher. 16 GB seems sufficient right now... but who knows maybe games need higher amount of RAM soon. Already opening a few browsers and programs uses GBs of memory. RAM is a good investment in general. So go for 32 GB (16x2) if you're not poor! The more important aspect about RAMs is their speed tho. Like Above 3000 MHz rock (mine are ol 1333 MHz).
|
|
inherit
1086
0
Jan 25, 2017 20:52:04 GMT
2,600
nanotm
a tidy workspace is the sign of a deranged mind
3,879
Aug 20, 2016 19:53:16 GMT
August 2016
nanotm
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
nanotm
nanotm
|
Post by nanotm on Dec 17, 2018 8:08:30 GMT
console peasant cool kids started with the bbc, spectrum or commodore variant (depending on their age of course) and progressed through every garbage console there was back to pc master race again in the mid 90's wiht such classics as dune doom and quake all of which required specific x86 hardware and a monstrous amount of disc space ( and there is one thing I think manufacturers lied about a lot, certainly given that I was using hardware dating to the 70's at work that involved spinning discs and let me store terabytes of data to it (indeed something they use in the demolition man film after the military declassified it) but then again hard drives were struggling to go over 250mb in size in the 90's so anything that used up more than 1mb of drive space was monstrous and most things came on a collection of floppies …. Speak for yoself. My late 90s PC had 6 GB of HDD... almost the equivalent of 6 TB of storage by current standards! um yeah the first 1gb hdd's started getting commercially sold for pc enthusiasts around 96 by 99 they were up to 10gb drive size and by 2001 120gb wasn't out of the way although its expensive price tag put many people off... but being that I mentioned the commodore and spectrum pc's I was clearly talking about the 80's into the early 90's (my work desktop in 94 had a P2 turbo cpu and a 10GB scuzzy drive, the building server had a dozen 100GB zip drives, and those things had been in place for near a decade before they went commercial in 98, by comparison when I moved in 98 the new place was still running 1960's tape drives and 286's with 100MB hard drives...) sometimes the military has advanced hardware thats a decade ahead of its time and others it has ancient crap thats a fee decades behind hte curve, case in point in 2001 I was issued a windows xp tablet that was way better than anything lower than the i7 version of the surface pro4, when I got the thing it was several years old and part of a specialist package (made by hp but modified into an unbreakable unit by some other contractor) it worked though which was more than I could say about the Pentium 3 arm computers they tried giving us for the brand new network system in 2006, it weighed 1/3rd as much and lasted for 10 times longer whilst also not trying to burn your arm off... and Microsoft cancled support for the devices in 2003 since they didnt sell well a full 3 years before apple released the ipad….
|
|
inherit
∯ Alien Wizard
729
0
Sept 14, 2023 6:08:41 GMT
9,897
Ieldra
4,771
August 2016
ieldra
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda
25190
6519
|
Post by Ieldra on Dec 17, 2018 9:21:28 GMT
As a kid half of my gaming time was spent on PC (the other PS1), and I remember loving it. However in more recent years I've stopped playing PC, instead settling into a console-only kind of gaming routine. The laptop I have now is pretty much strictly used for work and/or online purposes, it is also a Mac, and so I've fallen extremely out of touch with PC gaming and PCs in general. Now I'm thinking of taking the plunge and getting back into PC gaming, in part because there's a lot of exclusives I can't play, and also because I'd love to make use of mods in some of the games I love. So I'm here asking for some help from some of the more knowledgeable PC-gamers. What kind of system should I be looking for? What things should I avoid? And what are some key terminology I should know about? I seriously know nothing. I'm looking for a system that could ideally play MMOs like WoW and SWTOR, though at the same time can also play games from my childhood (ie. original Fallouts, Diablo, etc..) but I've heard that sometimes older games can't run on newer computers? Is that a thing I should take into account? I know I'm asking a lot of questions and sound like an confused old man, but buying a gaming PC is a very large (and expensive) commitment, so I want to make sure I know everything that I can to make an informed decision. Thanks in advance. Most things were already said by others, but here are a few things to consider:
1. Don't buy a laptop unless there's really no other choice, i.e. you absolutly want to be mobile with your rig. You get much less power for your money.
2. Most of the games you mention should play fine with hardware that was current five years ago.
3. Older games often don't use multiple CPU cores. If you play older games, consider that AMD CPUs are slower than Intel in single-core mode. Of course, older games also require much less power in general, so that may not be relevent unless you're getting really cheap hardware.
4. Don't get suckered into buying less than 16GB RAM. You'll regret it.
5. If you buy second-hand, format the disk, buy an extra OS license and either install it yourself or have it installed by a shop. You never know what you might inherit from your predecessor.
6. Keep an eye on security. The net environment has grown more hostile over the years, but anti-malware software has also grown much better. I've beein doing well with a free version for a long time.
7. In general, I recommend using a shop that custom-builds PCs even if you buy one of the standard configurations. They tend to be a bit more expensive, but they're usually more competent should you have problems with your PC later.
|
|
saandrig
N5
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 3,362 Likes: 6,912
inherit
2719
0
6,912
saandrig
3,362
January 2017
saandrig
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by saandrig on Dec 17, 2018 15:27:11 GMT
Oi only noobs started video games with PS1. Cool kids started gaming with Amiga, SNES or Sega Mega Drive! I started with Karateka on a 8-bit PC back in 1985. Am I a cool kid too? ... Dammit, I knew it was too early.
|
|
inherit
Elvis Has Left The Building
244
0
Sept 26, 2016 13:29:55 GMT
19,064
Arijon van Goyen
10,446
August 2016
kaiserarian
17300
|
Post by Arijon van Goyen on Dec 17, 2018 19:51:39 GMT
|
|
inherit
Ohm's Law Compels You
207
0
19,211
Qui-Gon GlenN7
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.
5,762
August 2016
quigonglenn
Bottom
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, KOTOR, Jade Empire
qui_gon_glenn
2108
|
Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Dec 17, 2018 23:39:25 GMT
Oi only noobs started video games with PS1. Cool kids started gaming with Amiga, SNES or Sega Mega Drive! I started with Karateka on a 8-bit PC back in 1985. Am I a cool kid too? ... Dammit, I knew it was too early. Hello there! Cool kid status passed us long ago, I'm afraid. It's not all bad - IRL cool kids fear us because they need their jobs
|
|
inherit
1086
0
Jan 25, 2017 20:52:04 GMT
2,600
nanotm
a tidy workspace is the sign of a deranged mind
3,879
Aug 20, 2016 19:53:16 GMT
August 2016
nanotm
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
nanotm
nanotm
|
Post by nanotm on Dec 19, 2018 13:59:37 GMT
I started with Karateka on a 8-bit PC back in 1985. Am I a cool kid too? ... Dammit, I knew it was too early. Hello there! Cool kid status passed us long ago, I'm afraid. It's not all bad - IRL cool kids fear us because they need their jobs jobs are for plebs, cool kids have pensions..... really cool kids have disability's and scars to go with them
|
|
inherit
Ohm's Law Compels You
207
0
19,211
Qui-Gon GlenN7
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.
5,762
August 2016
quigonglenn
Bottom
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, KOTOR, Jade Empire
qui_gon_glenn
2108
|
Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Dec 19, 2018 14:04:01 GMT
Hello there! Cool kid status passed us long ago, I'm afraid. It's not all bad - IRL cool kids fear us because they need their jobs jobs are for plebs, cool kids have pensions..... really cool kids have disability's and scars to go with them I have never been a cool kid. This was "cool" for about 5 minutes in the 80s. I am a pleb. Rage against the machine, etc.
|
|
dmc1001
N7
Biotic Booty
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: ferroboy
Prime Posts: 77
Posts: 9,934 Likes: 17,652
inherit
Biotic Booty
1031
0
Sept 20, 2023 1:37:11 GMT
17,652
dmc1001
9,934
August 2016
dmc1001
Top
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
ferroboy
77
|
Post by dmc1001 on Dec 19, 2018 18:43:08 GMT
I have a gaming laptop because I haven't had the space for a desktop in ages. I think I paid around $1300 for something that could run any game that has come out since. That was more than a year and a half ago. I'm pretty sure desktop computers run less.
|
|
dmc1001
N7
Biotic Booty
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: ferroboy
Prime Posts: 77
Posts: 9,934 Likes: 17,652
inherit
Biotic Booty
1031
0
Sept 20, 2023 1:37:11 GMT
17,652
dmc1001
9,934
August 2016
dmc1001
Top
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
ferroboy
77
|
Post by dmc1001 on Dec 19, 2018 18:46:47 GMT
Oi only noobs started video games with PS1. Cool kids started gaming with Amiga, SNES or Sega Mega Drive! I started with Karateka on a 8-bit PC back in 1985. Am I a cool kid too? ... Dammit, I knew it was too early. I have an IBM PC Jr. back then. I got to play games like King's Quest, Leisure Suit Larry, Zork and Leather Goddess of Phobos. It's also when I started writing. I think I used Basic to write. Still have printouts of stuff I wrote from those days.
|
|
inherit
1606
0
Mar 28, 2024 20:14:12 GMT
3,204
Sweet FA
Cyberdrunk 2024
1,641
Sept 16, 2016 21:33:47 GMT
September 2016
standardorbit
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by Sweet FA on Nov 2, 2019 23:59:06 GMT
jobs are for plebs, cool kids have pensions..... really cool kids have disability's and scars to go with them I have never been a cool kid. This was "cool" for about 5 minutes in the 80s. I am a pleb. Rage against the machine, etc.
Never was popular or cool at school but I now always find it very ironic when people say that I'm cool in a bar or club, " you want to know me now ?" . We all know about the anti hero concept well I've always had a kind of anti-cool philosophy , maybe I'm a contrarian, but I've never gone with the flow and followed trends.
But to get somewhat back on topic this video could be applied to any kind of tech discussion and highlights the hazards that the unwary may face in catching up and upgrading equipment. I've seen computer/tech forum exchanges like this.
|
|