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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 21, 2018 22:11:38 GMT
Its time that this very possible companion gets her own thread. Sure its still plausible that Bioware choose to not include a female Qunari as companion but after 3 Games without one is very unlikely at least for me. Also i remember some time ago or should i say some tweet ago that Bioware thinking about to include more female Qunari and Dwarves characters in future games.
So any wishes? Personally i don´t need another loyal Qunari as DA 4 companion. The previous games already had highlighted this perspective.
So i would prefer to have a Tal-Vashoth this time.Why not the Valo-Kas merc leader Shokrakar or someone with a similiar background? "Shokrakar is a female qunari who spent her life rebelling against the dictates of the Qun, and finally escaped. She was always too aggressive and too opinionated to fit the Qunaris idea of proper female behavior, and rebelled repeatedly against every profession and part of society the priests tried to force her into. Her name literally means ´rebel` in qunari. She bears hefty emotional and physical scars from years of enduring re-education camps, but is triumphant about having gained her freedom. She is forthright, confident and impossible to intimidate.
Visually, she should show the scars of her background, but have a relaxed, open demeanor, since she has finally achieved everything she was fighting for.</CharacterDescription> Also i would be nice to have not another Qunari Warrior. Maybe a Rogue or Mage.
The most important question romance or not? Of course Yes butstraight, gay or bisexual? I choose gay. I don ´t think that get tow bisexual females in DA 4 and Lace Harding is already one possible bisexuell.
She could be straight but gay is fitting more for the Shokrakar description.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 21, 2018 22:59:17 GMT
She could be straight but gay is fitting more for the Shokrakar description. How is it more fitting?
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 21, 2018 23:06:56 GMT
She could be straight but gay is fitting more for the Shokrakar description. How is it more fitting? "She was always too aggressive and too opinionated to fit the Qunaris idea of proper female behavior, and rebelled repeatedly against every profession and part of society the priests tried to force her into. " I don´t say that she couldn´t be straight and maybe its bit of a stereotype but i see her more as gay character from this description.
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Post by arvaarad on Dec 21, 2018 23:11:22 GMT
Would really like to have a tamassran either in the party or in a Josephine/Cullen-type role. The idea of sticking someone who is essentially a corporate office worker (or elementary school teacher!) in a party of fantasy medieval/renaissance characters amuses me to no end.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 21, 2018 23:19:21 GMT
Would really like to have a tamassran either in the party or in a Josephine/Cullen-type role. The idea of sticking someone who is essentially a corporate office worker (or elementary school teacher!) in a party of fantasy medieval/renaissance characters amuses me to no end. Ok but that sounds like a female Sten for me. Or has this character of yours a special hook to make her more unique?
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Post by yogsothoth on Dec 21, 2018 23:20:43 GMT
I'd rather have someone born under the Qun, specifically under the Arigena, and then left because of their rejection of the Qun. That's really the only way to get a character from the Matriarchy involved since they never leave to mainland Thedas. We've also already had someone born into the Qun and agreed with it, someone born into and waivered on what they thought of it, now we should get someone born into and hate the Qun.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 23:26:34 GMT
Given the likely setting of the next game (Tevinter in the face of the Qunari wars), I would be SHOCKED if we don't have a qunari companion. And after two male qunari (and female qunari only being introduced in the last game), I would also be SHOCKED if we don't have a major female qunari character. To balance out the characters we've had, I agree that a female qunari who isn't a follower of the Qun seems right. Maybe a Tal-Vashoth. I like the idea of Shokrakar, but I'd probably prefer the idea of someone new. Maybe a Tal-Vashoth who has been hiding her magic abilities? That could be cool. Of course, I'd like her to be bisexual or lesbian because I simply wouldn't want to deny vertigomez her tall lady love interest! My one concern is that we might not be getting a qunari companion because of the war. How will we be able to waltz through Minrathous with an armed qunari when they are at war with them? Sure, it's possible to work around it. But it might be simpler for them to add in a Viddathari instead. Sure, we had Tallis, but only for a DLC. So an elf or dwarf (or even human) follower of the Qun can represent that side of the war while still being allowed to move freely throughout the setting in a realistic way. But I hope I'm wrong. I not only want a big tall qunari mage lady, but I want her with flowing white hair (like the tarot card!).
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Post by yogsothoth on Dec 21, 2018 23:31:33 GMT
They could always just be under the guise of a slave for Mae, Dorian, or the protagonist.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 21, 2018 23:37:18 GMT
I like the idea of Shokrakar, but I'd probably prefer the idea of someone new. Well Shokrakar Character Description wasn´t used in the DAI. Its nitpicking but Shokrakar would still be a complete new character. Remember Isabela and that she couldn´t visit the Qunari for obvious reasons in DA 4? Maybe this time its reversed or only for the first hours.
The question will Tevinter kill any Qunari at sights in this war or are they more open-minded regrading clear Tal-Vashoths?
They could always just be under the guise of a slave for Mae, Dorian, or the protagonist. Yeah that works for me.
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Post by arvaarad on Dec 21, 2018 23:44:49 GMT
Would really like to have a tamassran either in the party or in a Josephine/Cullen-type role. The idea of sticking someone who is essentially a corporate office worker (or elementary school teacher!) in a party of fantasy medieval/renaissance characters amuses me to no end. Ok but that sounds like a female Sten for me. If you’re referring to her implied loyalty to the Qun (compared to say a Tal-Vashoth or escaped saarebas), I’d suggest that talking to a strongly patriotic Marine is very different than talking to a law-abiding schoolteacher. Her perspective on the Qun is going to be extremely different due to her radically different role and life experiences, even if it’s still broadly positive.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 21, 2018 23:49:17 GMT
lol y'all know i'm here for this Of course, I'd like her to be bisexual or lesbian because I simply wouldn't want to deny vertigomez her tall lady love interest! @daveliam you're such a good wingman! 😉 Ofc I joke about my love for women who can lift me with one arm (....it's not a joke actually, it's thirst, but I'm trying to give myself some credit here), but I'd really love a female Tal-Vashoth who strongly rejects the Qun, seeing as how we've had loyalist Sten and could-go-either-way Iron Bull. A character who is maybe even a little radical about it, who doesn't acknowledge the good parts of the Qun (like the racial equality, lack of poverty or hunger, etc.) Just someone with a burn-it-all attitude. Maybe she thinks Tevinter's comparably better, or maybe she's a staunch individualist who refuses to align with any nation. Hopefully she wouldn't be a 2H warrior, though. We've had two of those as companions and there's another from MP (Katari). I wouldn't mind a tank or a rogue or a mage. Wouldn't mind if Stephanie Sheh voiced her. 👀
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 23:51:52 GMT
The more I think on it, the more I want her to be a mage. Qunari mages (both Saarebas AND Tal-Vashoth mage) are up in the top of mage character types I'd like to see. Along with Rivaini Seer, Mortalitasi, and another one of Flemeth's daughters.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 21, 2018 23:59:44 GMT
Ok but that sounds like a female Sten for me. If you’re referring to her implied loyalty to the Qun (compared to say a Tal-Vashoth or escaped saarebas), I’d suggest that talking to a strongly patriotic Marine is very different than talking to a law-abiding schoolteacher. Her perspective on the Qun is going to be extremely different due to her radically different role and life experiences, even if it’s still broadly positive. My problem with our idea of this character is that we already have this loyal perspective in three games
with three characters (Sten, Tallis and The Iron Bull) I agree that her background would be different but not that much like a real Tal-Vashoth. Also its likely that Tallis and particularly Sten as new Arishok have major roles in DA 4. So we would have the loyal Qun perspective in the game why do need this in the party?
The more I think on it, the more I want her to be a mage. Qunari mages (both Saarebas AND Tal-Vashoth mage) are up in the top of mage character types I'd like to see. Along with Rivaini Seer, Mortalitasi, and another one of Flemeth's daughters. Well it isn´t that bad as 2H warrior. Please Bioware not another 2h Qunari warrior. But i would prefer a Rogue. By the way had Bioware ever clarified what the Fog Warrior common race is? Are they more human, elves, dwarves (i really doubt that) or more Qunari / Tal-Vashoths group of people?
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 22, 2018 0:14:35 GMT
The more I think on it, the more I want her to be a mage. Qunari mages (both Saarebas AND Tal-Vashoth mage) are up in the top of mage character types I'd like to see. Along with Rivaini Seer, Mortalitasi, and another one of Flemeth's daughters. I'd probably be more excited about a qunari mage if I hadn't played one myself. But a former-Saarebas Tal-Vashoth is something entirely different from a Vashoth apostate merc!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 0:19:14 GMT
By the way had Bioware ever clarified what the Fog Warrior common race is? Are they more human, elves, dwarves (i really doubt that) or more Qunari / Tal-Vashoths group of people?
Nope. I think common consensus is a mixed race group, mostly humans and elves with some Tal-Vashoth as well. But that's pure speculation. Could be entirely Fex for all we know. LOL.
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Post by arvaarad on Dec 22, 2018 0:20:20 GMT
If you’re referring to her implied loyalty to the Qun (compared to say a Tal-Vashoth or escaped saarebas), I’d suggest that talking to a strongly patriotic Marine is very different than talking to a law-abiding schoolteacher. Her perspective on the Qun is going to be extremely different due to her radically different role and life experiences, even if it’s still broadly positive. My problem with our idea of this character is that we already have this loyal perspective in three games with three characters (Sten, Tallis and The Iron Bull) I agree that her background would be different but not that much like a real Tal-Vashoth. Also its likely that Tallis and particularly Sten as new Arishok have major roles in DA 4. So we would have the loyal Qun perspective in the game why do need this in the party?
A tamassran could be loyal in the same way the average Orlesian merchant is technically loyal to Orlais. Yeah, they follow the rules as they go about their day, but it’s not a major part of their identity. For the folks you listed, their loyalty forms a big part of who they are. We find out a lot about their relationship to the Qun, and about the big picture of life under the Qun, but not a whole lot of mundane stuff. Even when Bull shares mundane details, it carries this weight of Meaning Something Significant with regards to the larger system of the Qun. By contrast, when people talk about dainty Orlesian cakes, they’re not also pondering serious questions about Orlesian society. They’re talking about the damn cakes. I want a Qunari who isn’t really interested in the big picture. They’re just describing the cakes.
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Post by yogsothoth on Dec 22, 2018 0:32:50 GMT
I don't really want a former Saarebas. I'd rather have someone who was smart and cunning enough to hide their magic while under constant surveillance of the Ben-Hassrath (mostly because I want companions who are actually smart and powerful enough to actually take on Solas).
A mage also has more gameplay options being a hedge mage that would have access to non-standard magic.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 22, 2018 0:34:52 GMT
Wouldn't mind if Stephanie Sheh voiced her. 👀 Not a VA I imagined to be seen suggested for a Qunari. That would be quite interesting to see.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 22, 2018 0:52:12 GMT
Wouldn't mind if Stephanie Sheh voiced her. 👀 Not a VA I imagined to be seen suggested for a Qunari. That would be quite interesting to see. Her voice can get very deep!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 22, 2018 0:56:55 GMT
I know. I’m just more used to her softer voices so that’s what I heard first when reading that. She’s one of my favorite VAs so I would love to hear her in a BioWare game.
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Post by LogicGunn on Dec 22, 2018 17:03:59 GMT
I would like to see the female perspective of the Qun, and it would be interesting to have a very rigid Tamassran companion who disapproves of EVERYTHING but sticks around for the greater good (i.e. cause Solas is big trouble). I know Sten was pretty rigid in his world-view but I'm talking hard-core-can't-be-reasoned-with-no-sense-of-Thedas-humour-and-absolutely-no-compromise-rigid. A Tal-V character would be cool too and leaves a lot of options for character personality. Even more interesting would be to have two Qunari characters, one Qun one Tal-V. That would lead to some epic party banter.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 19:01:30 GMT
I would like to see the female perspective of the Qun, and it would be interesting to have a very rigid Tamassran companion who disapproves of EVERYTHING but sticks around for the greater good (i.e. cause Solas is big trouble). I know Sten was pretty rigid in his world-view but I'm talking hard-core-can't-be-reasoned-with-no-sense-of-Thedas-humour-and-absolutely-no-compromise-rigid. A Tal-V character would be cool too and leaves a lot of options for character personality. Even more interesting would be to have two Qunari characters, one Qun one Tal-V. That would lead to some epic party banter. Hell yes! I would LOVE to have a group of companions with two qunari, two dwarves, two elves, and three humans. Make it a little more evenly distributed. Tal-Vashoth mage and a Tamassran Ambassadoria or Rock Knocker and Harding Elven ex-slave Circle Mage and a Fog Warrior Maevaris, an Imperial Templar, and a gladiator/slave That would be cool. Plus, I would love to be able to have an almost full party of qunari or dwarves. We only had the ability to be all dwarves (outside of the origins) once in the Descent DLC.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 22, 2018 19:33:12 GMT
I would love to have two qunari companions (or two dwarves - last time we had that was Awakening!), but every game has been majority humans + an elf or two..... one qunari on the roster in DAO and DAI, one golem in DAO and one spirit in Awakening/DAI...
But I played PoE2 recently and having Maia and Tekehu on the same team was neat. They're both Aumaua (the "giant" intimidating race of that setting, so sort of Qunari-ish) but have very dissimilar personalities and political views.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 22, 2018 20:02:19 GMT
In my opinion it would be enough if had only a real Tal-Vashoth / the female Qunari in the party. Why do need the loyalist perspective if DA 4 already have possible major characters like Sten/Arishok and Rasaan/Ariqun plus side characters like Tallis and Gatt? Also Bioware didn´t explore the Tal-Vashoth as such in detail in previous games.
Dwarves on the other hand could be benefit from two dwarves. Harding and a Ambassadoria Dwarf would be a nice combo.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 22, 2018 20:10:34 GMT
My problem with our idea of this character is that we already have this loyal perspective in three games with three characters (Sten, Tallis and The Iron Bull) I agree that her background would be different but not that much like a real Tal-Vashoth. Also its likely that Tallis and particularly Sten as new Arishok have major roles in DA 4. So we would have the loyal Qun perspective in the game why do need this in the party?
A tamassran could be loyal in the same way the average Orlesian merchant is technically loyal to Orlais. Yeah, they follow the rules as they go about their day, but it’s not a major part of their identity. For the folks you listed, their loyalty forms a big part of who they are. We find out a lot about their relationship to the Qun, and about the big picture of life under the Qun, but not a whole lot of mundane stuff. Even when Bull shares mundane details, it carries this weight of Meaning Something Significant with regards to the larger system of the Qun. By contrast, when people talk about dainty Orlesian cakes, they’re not also pondering serious questions about Orlesian society. They’re talking about the damn cakes. I want a Qunari who isn’t really interested in the big picture. They’re just describing the cakes. So you want the baker who puts secret sugar in her bread? lol I could go along with that.
Honestly, I kinda wanna meet Bull's tamassran. After the dialogue from Cole about her when Bull chooses the Chargers, she seems pretty cool. And possibly in need of help. She seems a prime example of people stuck in the Qun who would get out if they could, but have resigned themselves to making the best of their life as it is due to lack of options.
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