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Post by natetrace on Jan 5, 2019 21:07:38 GMT
I think a remaster is the best thing BW can do to generate hype for ME. If they release an Andromeda 2 with ryder straight out the gate, consumers will be very wary, and I think that would be more costly for BW overall. I know many people here love Andromeda, but the fact is the game was bashed and memed like crazy. People are still making videos, almost 2 years later, on youtube on just how bad Andromeda was. I personally don't think an Andromeda 2 will generate hype, or sells. If not a remaster, BW has to do something new again.
FUCK. THOSE. YOUTUBE & SOCIAL MEDIA. IDIOTS.
BioWare worked and works best when they didn't/don't listen to any of the shit gargling fuckwits on Youtube and social media, because listening to those useless shitheads, who will NEVER like a BioWare game no matter how good it is really is, for any reasons, if wasn't the animation errors (for the record: those errors were over blown), the so-called "poor writing" (for the record: that is subjective), or how "the SJWs ruined the game" (which again for the record: BioWare has always politics in their games and they tend to lead to the left of the political spectrum), they would have found something to bitch about.
Listening to those morons is how and why 99% of gaming sucks now of days, and frankly listening to ill-informed twits on social media will NEVER lead to any good piece of not only games but all media in general.
Lol tell us how you really feel! I agree though. Certain YouTubers and social media accounts are more concerned with bringing down BioWare rather than offering anything useful. The DA4 backlash videos prove that.
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Post by 10k on Jan 5, 2019 21:54:12 GMT
FUCK. THOSE. YOUTUBE & SOCIAL MEDIA. IDIOTS.
BioWare worked and works best when they didn't/don't listen to any of the shit gargling fuckwits on Youtube and social media, because listening to those useless shitheads, who will NEVER like a BioWare game no matter how good it is really is, for any reasons, if wasn't the animation errors (for the record: those errors were over blown), the so-called "poor writing" (for the record: that is subjective), or how "the SJWs ruined the game" (which again for the record: BioWare has always politics in their games and they tend to lead to the left of the political spectrum), they would have found something to bitch about.
Listening to those morons is how and why 99% of gaming sucks now of days, and frankly listening to ill-informed twits on social media will NEVER lead to any good piece of not only games but all media in general.
Well I didn't say BW has to listen to the fans. They didn't listen to fans while making Andromeda, so there you go. It is the consumers that listens to youtubers, and that's the important bit, I would almost say that's the most important bit. If a developer has youtubers shitting on their game, more likely than not, people won't buy the game. Like it or not, youtube and gaming scores help make or break games. Word of mouth is a powerful thing in the gaming industry. BW must generate hype for the next ME, that's how games are sold. Personally I don't think the continuation of a game the gaming media shited on will generate that hype. Edit: Also you talk about making good games. The truth of the matter is, companies don't care if games are good or not. They only care if the game sells. And for a game to sell, you must cater to the audience. This 99% you speak of are games that cater to the audience. You may think they suck, but the people who buy them, giving their cash to the devs, think otherwise. Opinions don't mean shit, it's all about that bottomline. Though I didn't know youtubers like gamerMD83 were "fuckwits" I thought gamerMD is a fan of BW, and really cared for the company; her last video seemed genuine atleast.
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Post by natetrace on Jan 5, 2019 23:31:22 GMT
FUCK. THOSE. YOUTUBE & SOCIAL MEDIA. IDIOTS.
BioWare worked and works best when they didn't/don't listen to any of the shit gargling fuckwits on Youtube and social media, because listening to those useless shitheads, who will NEVER like a BioWare game no matter how good it is really is, for any reasons, if wasn't the animation errors (for the record: those errors were over blown), the so-called "poor writing" (for the record: that is subjective), or how "the SJWs ruined the game" (which again for the record: BioWare has always politics in their games and they tend to lead to the left of the political spectrum), they would have found something to bitch about.
Listening to those morons is how and why 99% of gaming sucks now of days, and frankly listening to ill-informed twits on social media will NEVER lead to any good piece of not only games but all media in general.
Well I didn't say BW has to listen to the fans. They didn't listen to fans while making Andromeda, so there you go. It is the consumers that listens to youtubers, and that's the important bit, I would almost say that's the most important bit. If a developer has youtubers shitting on their game, more likely than not, people won't buy the game. Like it or not, youtube and gaming scores help make or break games. Word of mouth is a powerful thing in the gaming industry. BW must generate hype for the next ME, that's how games are sold. Personally I don't think the continuation of a game the gaming media shited on will generate that hype. Edit: Also you talk about making good games. The truth of the matter is, companies don't care if games are good or not. They only care if the game sells. And for a game to sell, you must cater to the audience. This 99% you speak of are games that cater to the audience. You may think they suck, but the people who buy them, giving their cash to the devs, think otherwise. Opinions don't mean shit, it's all about that bottomline. Though I didn't know youtubers like gamerMD83 were "fuckwits" I thought gamerMD is a fan of BW, and really cared for the company; her last video seemed genuine atleast. No one mentioned her. We are seeing what happened with Andromeda happen to Fallout 76 right now, only less SJW accusations. Even if both games are seen as the weakest installments, people don't want to see a universe they love end or go on hiatus due to the constant dumping. A lot of the YouTubers dumping on the new dragon age parrot each other. The exact same thumbnails and examples of how Epler was wrong because in Origins you could do this. Either it's a concentrated effort, or they all just say they hate EA and BioWare while making some cash off of the video they made about them.
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Post by 10k on Jan 5, 2019 23:39:10 GMT
No one mentioned her. We are seeing what happened with Andromeda happen to Fallout 76 right now, only less SJW accusations. Even if both games are seen as the weakest installments, people don't want to see a universe they love end or go on hiatus due to the constant dumping. A lot of the YouTubers dumping on the new dragon age parrot each other. The exact same thumbnails and examples of how Epler was wrong because in Origins you could do this. Either it's a concentrated effort, or they all just say they hate EA and BioWare while making some cash off of the video they made about them. Well youtubers like her are the ones I'm talking about, she couldn't even finish the game. It's not just the so called "trolls" or "anti-sjw" youtubers who didn't like this game. It is actual fans as well. You think my only purpose on this forum is to troll Andromeda? No I'm here because I'm an actual fan of ME, and I think Andromeda failed and I agree what the youtubers were saying about the game. The same thing is going on with fallout 76 too, I agree. But as with Andromeda, it is fans as well that have issues with the game. MD is scared about DA as well, given what happened with Andromeda. Like it or not, trolls aren't the only people who are criticizing Andromeda or BW.
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Post by natetrace on Jan 6, 2019 0:38:28 GMT
No one mentioned her. We are seeing what happened with Andromeda happen to Fallout 76 right now, only less SJW accusations. Even if both games are seen as the weakest installments, people don't want to see a universe they love end or go on hiatus due to the constant dumping. A lot of the YouTubers dumping on the new dragon age parrot each other. The exact same thumbnails and examples of how Epler was wrong because in Origins you could do this. Either it's a concentrated effort, or they all just say they hate EA and BioWare while making some cash off of the video they made about them. Well youtubers like her are the ones I'm talking about, she couldn't even finish the game. It's not just the so called "trolls" or "anti-sjw" youtubers who didn't like this game. It is actual fans as well. You think my only purpose on this forum is to troll Andromeda? No I'm here because I'm an actual fan of ME, and I think Andromeda failed and I agree what the youtubers were saying about the game. The same thing is going on with fallout 76 too, I agree. But as with Andromeda, it is fans as well that have issues with the game. MD is scared about DA as well, given what happened with Andromeda. Like it or not, trolls aren't the only people who are criticizing Andromeda or BW. I have watched her videos for many years. She is focusing on a YouTube career so she will release more concerned type videos because they do well. I don't think she's a fake fan, though. I am sure she is worried. I know Andromeda certainly isn't flawless, but I did enjoy it and I think it is easy to see a path forward in Andromeda (though I doubt it will star Ryder). I would buy a remaster. I don't however think a remaster is necessary at this point. I understand people always want more of the same (until they don't).
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Post by smilesja on Jan 6, 2019 0:47:21 GMT
I think a remaster is the best thing BW can do to generate hype for ME. If they release an Andromeda 2 with ryder straight out the gate, consumers will be very wary, and I think that would be more costly for BW overall. I know many people here love Andromeda, but the fact is the game was bashed and memed like crazy. People are still making videos, almost 2 years later, on youtube on just how bad Andromeda was. I personally don't think an Andromeda 2 will generate hype, or sells. If not a remaster, BW has to do something new again. Eh right now what BioWare needs to do is to make Andromeda 2 abandoning the people who liked the game is just going to cause more division.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 6, 2019 1:01:24 GMT
No one mentioned her. We are seeing what happened with Andromeda happen to Fallout 76 right now, only less SJW accusations. Even if both games are seen as the weakest installments, people don't want to see a universe they love end or go on hiatus due to the constant dumping. A lot of the YouTubers dumping on the new dragon age parrot each other. The exact same thumbnails and examples of how Epler was wrong because in Origins you could do this. Either it's a concentrated effort, or they all just say they hate EA and BioWare while making some cash off of the video they made about them. Well youtubers like her are the ones I'm talking about, she couldn't even finish the game. It's not just the so called "trolls" or "anti-sjw" youtubers who didn't like this game. It is actual fans as well. You think my only purpose on this forum is to troll Andromeda? No I'm here because I'm an actual fan of ME, and I think Andromeda failed and I agree what the youtubers were saying about the game. The same thing is going on with fallout 76 too, I agree. But as with Andromeda, it is fans as well that have issues with the game. MD is scared about DA as well, given what happened with Andromeda. Like it or not, trolls aren't the only people who are criticizing Andromeda or BW. So I have a question. Say there were two videos made about a game. Both are the same length, just as thought out, everything being the same except one likes the game and the other does not. Which would you listen to?
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Post by themikefest on Jan 6, 2019 1:02:50 GMT
I like to have a remaster. It would give me 3 more platinum trophies. excellent. If they include all dlc, with the 3 games, for 59.99, I'm sure a lot of folks would buy it. It offers about 100 hours of gameplay. If the person likes it, he/she may want to play it again making different choices. Folks who have the trilogy, but not all dlc might get it since buying all dlc separately would be more expensive. And as successful as MP was for ME3, it might attract even more people to purchase the trilogy. As I said a few times, I believe it would sell well, even more copies than MEA. That would be interesting. Would that be enough for Shepard to return? Time will answer that question.
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Post by 10k on Jan 6, 2019 1:20:02 GMT
So I have a question. Say there were two videos made about a game. Both are the same length, just as thought out, everything being the same except one likes the game and the other does not. Which would you listen to? I'd listen to both, seeing what each had to say about the game, as I do with every game.
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Post by 10k on Jan 6, 2019 1:22:28 GMT
I like to have a remaster. It would give me 3 more platinum trophies. excellent. If they include all dlc, with the 3 games, for 59.99, I'm sure a lot of folks would buy it. It offers about 100 hours of gameplay. If the person likes it, he/she may want to play it again making different choices. Folks who have the trilogy, but not all dlc might get it since buying all dlc separately would be more expensive. And as successful as MP was for ME3, it might attract even more people to purchase the trilogy. As I said a few times, I believe it would sell well, even more copies than MEA. That would be interesting. Would that be enough for Shepard to return? Time will answer that question. If they remade that ending or made one canon. It would definitely be enough.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 6, 2019 1:22:59 GMT
Forgot to add Bioshock Infinite.
God Of War 3 was remastered for the ps4.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 6, 2019 1:26:31 GMT
So I have a question. Say there were two videos made about a game. Both are the same length, just as thought out, everything being the same except one likes the game and the other does not. Which would you listen to? I'd listen to both, seeing what each had to say about the game, as I do with every game. Okay, fair enough then.
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Post by urkibalurki on Jan 6, 2019 13:56:26 GMT
I see too many people here who want a remastering, a remake, a reboot. In my own experience, things like these always are a bad idea. No: they have to make new games from scratch and leave alone the older ones. Sooooo, you're saying that the Resident Evil 2 remake is bad? Not bad, but, as I already said, it doesn't add anything to the original.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 6, 2019 13:58:04 GMT
Sooooo, you're saying that the Resident Evil 2 remake is bad? Not bad, but, as I already said, it doesn't add anything to the original. Err, have you seen the game? They added and changed a lot of stuff to it.
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Post by natetrace on Jan 6, 2019 15:38:12 GMT
Now we are talking about Resident Evil 2? Good! I love that game. I've got Anthem, Metro and RE2 for Xbox one all pre ordered. The first Resident Evil I played was 2. Thinking about poor Kendo getting eaten alive again in remastered form... Ah yes.
See RE2 needed remastered more than ME1! Kotor could use a beefy upgrade before Mass Effect as well.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 6, 2019 15:55:24 GMT
Now we are talking about Resident Evil 2? Good! I love that game. I've got Anthem, Metro and RE2 for Xbox one all pre ordered. The first Resident Evil I played was 2. Thinking about poor Kendo getting eaten alive again in remastered form... Ah yes. See RE2 needed remastered more than ME1! Kotor could use a beefy upgrade before Mass Effect as well. Well, your going to love the remake! But you may need adult nappies when you first meet Mr X. 😉
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 6, 2019 19:45:47 GMT
BioWare worked and works best when they didn't/don't listen to any of the shit gargling fuckwits on Youtube and social media, because listening to those useless shitheads, who will NEVER like a BioWare game no matter how good it is really is, for any reasons, if wasn't the animation errors (for the record: those errors were over blown), the so-called "poor writing" (for the record: that is subjective), or how "the SJWs ruined the game" (which again for the record: BioWare has always politics in their games and they tend to lead to the left of the political spectrum), they would have found something to bitch about. Listening to those morons is how and why 99% of gaming sucks now of days, and frankly listening to ill-informed twits on social media will NEVER lead to any good piece of not only games but all media in general. Umadbro? Lol, many BioWare fans agreed with those "shit gargling fuckwits" and "morons". I was one of them. Would you please call me those names directly so I can report you for acting significantly worse than the "shitheads"?
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Post by smilesja on Jan 6, 2019 20:21:14 GMT
Are we going to stop insulting each and get back on topic?
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 6, 2019 22:11:25 GMT
Are we going to stop insulting each and get back on topic? Seems a good idea. I'd be surprised if the MET were ever adjusted to make a canon ending. I mean I'd be fine with the only ending that made any sense to me (Control) but some might quibble. I could also see the series continue in Andromeda, but with the passage of some time and new protagonists (if not necessarily eliminating all past party members).
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 6, 2019 22:57:43 GMT
Are we going to stop insulting each and get back on topic? Seems a good idea. I'd be surprised if the MET were ever adjusted to make a canon ending. I mean I'd be fine with the only ending that made any sense to me (Control) but some might quibble. I could also see the series continue in Andromeda, but with the passage of some time and new protagonists (if not necessarily eliminating all past party members). Something I was wondering at the time was when Anderson stepped down from being the representative for the Alliance on the Council was to judge how the fanbase would react to something like that becoming canon. There wasn't a huge outcry about it, but there were a few threads at the time that did get heated about how they felt betrayed by BioWare because they wanted Anderson to be on the council and not Uldina.
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Post by General Mahad on Jan 6, 2019 23:31:27 GMT
Mass Effect trilogy remastered would work on the PS4, not so on the xbone due to backwards compactibility for the all the titles. I think a remaster is the best thing BW can do to generate hype for ME. If they release an Andromeda 2 with ryder straight out the gate, consumers will be very wary, and I think that would be more costly for BW overall. I know many people here love Andromeda, but the fact is the game was bashed and memed like crazy. People are still making videos, almost 2 years later, on youtube on just how bad Andromeda was. I personally don't think an Andromeda 2 will generate hype, or sells. If not a remaster, BW has to do something new again.
FUCK. THOSE. YOUTUBE & SOCIAL MEDIA. IDIOTS.
BioWare worked and works best when they didn't/don't listen to any of the shit gargling fuckwits on Youtube and social media, because listening to those useless shitheads, who will NEVER like a BioWare game no matter how good it is really is, for any reasons, if wasn't the animation errors (for the record: those errors were over blown), the so-called "poor writing" (for the record: that is subjective), or how "the SJWs ruined the game" (which again for the record: BioWare has always politics in their games and they tend to lead to the left of the political spectrum), they would have found something to bitch about.
Listening to those morons is how and why 99% of gaming sucks now of days, and frankly listening to ill-informed twits on social media will NEVER lead to any good piece of not only games but all media in general.
Got a little chip on your shoulder eh?
BioWare wrote themselves into a corner with the ME3 endings and had to nuke the Milky Way just to make a new Mass Effect game because they realized how badly they screwed up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 0:06:47 GMT
Got a little chip on your shoulder eh?
BioWare wrote themselves into a corner with the ME3 endings and had to nuke the Milky Way just to make a new Mass Effect game because they realized how badly they screwed up.
It's not that they wrote themselves into a corner. They just stopped writing because the trilogy was over. You want it to continue, they don't. Conflict of interest.
The only ending where the galaxy is nuked is the low EMS destroy ending where the whole galaxy is incinerated and everyone dies. All the other conclusions show the galaxy has a future in some way, depending on what your choices were.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 0:33:58 GMT
Got a little chip on your shoulder eh?
BioWare wrote themselves into a corner with the ME3 endings and had to nuke the Milky Way just to make a new Mass Effect game because they realized how badly they screwed up.
It's not that they wrote themselves into a corner. They just stopped writing because the trilogy was over. You want it to continue, they don't. Conflict of interest.
The only ending where the galaxy is nuked is the low EMS destroy ending where the whole galaxy is incinerated and everyone dies. All the other conclusions show the galaxy has a future in some way, depending on what your choices were.
I can't find anywhere where it's stated that all life in the whole galaxy is destroyed. Only on earth.
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Post by 10k on Jan 7, 2019 0:38:38 GMT
It's not that they wrote themselves into a corner. They just stopped writing because the trilogy was over. You want it to continue, they don't. Conflict of interest.
The only ending where the galaxy is nuked is the low EMS destroy ending where the whole galaxy is incinerated and everyone dies. All the other conclusions show the galaxy has a future in some way, depending on what your choices were.
They absolutely did write themselves into a corner. There is no way they can go back to the milky way without implementing the choice the player took in the end. There was no reason to go to Andromeda, given there was so much more to be explored in the MW. Andromeda was only picked to avoid those ending. Synthesis; they'd have to make every character glow green, amongst other things. Control; Shepard is basically a demi-god controlling the reapers. Destroy; There is basically no artificial life left in the galaxy. Refuse; every race we have known up to this point is extinct and the reapers still exist. There is no way they can go back to the MW without taking note of all these different scenarios of what state the MW could be in. This is why they went to Andromeda. Either BW choose a canon ending, rewrite the ending, or stay in Andromeda. I bet they're going to stay within Andromeda just so most fans can remain relatively satisfied.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 1:59:46 GMT
They absolutely did write themselves into a corner. There is no way they can go back to the milky way without implementing the choice the player took in the end. There was no reason to go to Andromeda, given there was so much more to be explored in the MW. Andromeda was only picked to avoid those ending. Synthesis; they'd have to make every character glow green, amongst other things. Control; Shepard is basically a demi-god controlling the reapers. Destroy; There is basically no artificial life left in the galaxy. Refuse; every race we have known up to this point is extinct and the reapers still exist. There is no way they can go back to the MW without taking note of all these different scenarios of what state the MW could be in. This is why they went to Andromeda. Either BW choose a canon ending, rewrite the ending, or stay in Andromeda. I bet they're going to stay within Andromeda just so most fans can remain relatively satisfied. Like I said, you want the trilogy to continue, they don't. You don't like the choices or outcomes they presented you, but they aren't going to retcon everything just so that they can squeeze another game in. That next game isn't coming. It's not due to spite, or to hurt your feelings. The trilogy was about Shepard's story, and the Reaper conflict. The conflict ended at the end of ME3, and that's the end of the story.
If you don't like how they wrapped up things, you are free not to purchase any further games from Bioware.
I don't see what your post has to do with remastering the trilogy anyways.
Fair enough.
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